| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:01 |
shivajiva |
Okay it's Christmas, I wish you all health, wealth and happiness in whatever ratios you desire :) |
| 00:01 |
Megaf |
I wish you good stuff shivajiva |
| 00:01 |
Megaf |
:D |
| 00:01 |
Megaf |
Lots of good stuff |
| 00:02 |
Megaf |
I wish you all lots of challenges and lots of energy to overcove whatever happens |
| 00:02 |
Megaf |
And lots of good things to happen |
| 00:02 |
Megaf |
I wish us a healthy 0.5 releae |
| 00:14 |
ThomasMonroe |
Merry Christmas Megaf |
| 00:14 |
ThomasMonroe |
and shivajiva |
| 00:18 |
Calinou |
<Megaf> Merry Jesus birthday ThomasMonroe :D |
| 00:18 |
Calinou |
TIL ThomasMonroe is Jesus |
| 00:18 |
Calinou |
wow, I played chess with Jesus |
| 00:18 |
ThomasMonroe |
-_- |
| 00:18 |
ThomasMonroe |
not funny |
| 00:27 |
Fixer |
loool |
| 00:28 |
Fixer |
Calinou: today almost finished that Hell On Earth Starter pack megawad, boss fight remains |
| 00:28 |
Calinou |
I tried out Half-Life: CAGED today |
| 00:28 |
Calinou |
(it recently added Linux support) |
| 00:28 |
Calinou |
it's an Half-Life partial conversion |
| 00:29 |
Calinou |
it's pretty hard, I'm playing it on Normal difficulty |
| 00:32 |
Shara |
Merry Christmas all :) |
| 00:46 |
ThomasMonroe |
Merry Christmas Shara :D |
| 00:53 |
* benrob0329 |
uploaded an image: screenshot_20171224_194517.png (871KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/qEoQMHmFdCDPfbSCSHyDQUDt> |
| 00:53 |
benrob0329 |
Faked semitransparency is..difficult to make look right |
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| 00:56 |
Fixer |
k, i've just closed the browser |
| 00:57 |
benrob0329 |
A higher resolution and the mipmap kicks in, a lower one and it looks..worse |
| 01:47 |
Sokomine |
it's...er..christmas. 25.12. winter. could someone tell this mosquito which got into my room, please? |
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| 02:23 |
Megaf |
Merry Christmas Shara :D |
| 02:30 |
Megaf |
Gotta love VLC https://i.imgur.com/qqtzSiK.png |
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| 03:25 |
ThomasMonroe |
Megaf lol |
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| 04:49 |
benrob0329 |
Minetest, why you gotta have such a crappy mipmap |
| 04:51 |
benrob0329 |
If I make the mask a higher resolution, then the mipmap scales it when your a block away (removing the transparency) |
| 04:51 |
benrob0329 |
If I make it a lower resolution, it looks like a checkerboard pattern |
| 04:51 |
ThomasMonroe |
Night all |
| 07:31 |
sofar |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19129 -> formspec security article is now complete(*) |
| 07:32 |
benrob0329 |
sofar: will read tomorrow |
| 07:32 |
benrob0329 |
Thanks for writing, should help secure a lot of mods (if mod authors care) |
| 07:33 |
sofar |
if they don't care, and the mods are in use on servers, i have a subtle way of convincing them |
| 07:34 |
benrob0329 |
Threaten them with criminal neglect? |
| 07:34 |
sofar |
nope |
| 07:35 |
sofar |
post a working exploit if they don't fix it after a reasonable amount of time |
| 07:35 |
benrob0329 |
Makes sense |
| 07:35 |
benrob0329 |
"Sofar's exploit thread" |
| 07:36 |
benrob0329 |
10/10 would hack again |
| 07:36 |
* benrob0329 |
continues to ponder ways of getting around the entity transparency problem |
| 07:37 |
sofar |
fix engine |
| 07:37 |
benrob0329 |
The checkerboard transparency method works, but our mipmap sucks |
| 07:37 |
benrob0329 |
Reduce resolution > make mipmap happy |
| 07:38 |
benrob0329 |
Increase resolution > doesnt look like Swiss cheese |
| 07:39 |
benrob0329 |
Fix engine > 1 year of C++ knowledge, 1 year of glsl training, and 1 year of studying MT's render code and rewriting all transparency handling from the ground up |
| 07:40 |
sofar |
worth ? |
| 07:42 |
benrob0329 |
Worth? Like the worth of time investment? Settling on a compromise between Swiss cheese and trippy texture rendering because its only shown for like 20 seconds and will be animated anyways. |
| 07:43 |
nore |
sofar: could we have the thread as sticky in all modding forums? ^^ |
| 07:44 |
nore |
Anyway, looks very good indeed |
| 07:46 |
benrob0329 |
The trick will be making 256 of these so I can set the alpha to whatever, but it should compress very well as its just two colors |
| 07:46 |
benrob0329 |
White or alpha, I should use indexed rather than greyscale even |
| 07:46 |
sofar |
omg, is this still about your retardis? |
| 07:46 |
sofar |
:P |
| 07:47 |
benrob0329 |
Heh |
| 07:47 |
benrob0329 |
sofar: someone had to make a mod that needs visual effects someday |
| 07:48 |
sofar |
here I'm thinking you want to do something actually useful like having 'shades on skins |
| 07:49 |
benrob0329 |
Shades, like sunglasses? Or like shading? |
| 07:49 |
sofar |
B) |
| 07:50 |
benrob0329 |
Sunglasses could be done using opacity on the same layer, problem solved :^) |
| 07:51 |
sofar |
doesn't solve the alpha sorting problem |
| 07:51 |
benrob0329 |
*sigh* nothing ever does |
| 07:52 |
benrob0329 |
This isn't alpha sorting, this is me running into two bad areas of our rendering engine |
| 07:52 |
sofar |
you're just obsessed with one micro problem |
| 07:52 |
sofar |
you're never going to make any significant changes that way |
| 07:53 |
sofar |
pick some easier battles, I suggest |
| 07:53 |
sofar |
nore: idk, sticky ... I think it's maybe something rubenwardy can possibly include in his modding book? |
| 07:55 |
benrob0329 |
This mod is my main mod, I want to finish it as a long term project, and make something visually impressive while doing so. Whether or not I will succeed..only time can tell |
| 07:55 |
sofar |
I .. hate to say it but you've already succeeded |
| 07:56 |
sofar |
either that or you will never succeed |
| 07:56 |
sofar |
one of those 2 outcomes sounds better to me |
| 07:56 |
benrob0329 |
An artist is never happy with his work |
| 07:58 |
nore |
Having it in the modding book would be good indeed |
| 07:58 |
benrob0329 |
Its a blessing and a curse, on one hand you always have a drive to improve; on the other you are never satisfied with your creations. |
| 08:02 |
sofar |
can't do groundbreaking new code and be an artist |
| 08:02 |
sofar |
those things don't mix :) |
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| 12:55 |
IhrFussel |
Hello guys^^ Why didn't I think about this earlier... I can let my moderators "flag" suspicious accounts that act extremely similar (same write style, same character etc) and then have those prove that they are different |
| 12:56 |
IhrFussel |
s/character/personality |
| 12:56 |
IhrFussel |
/ |
| 12:56 |
IhrFussel |
Make that 2 slashes ^ |
| 12:57 |
Fixer |
BOT-LIKE PLAYERS |
| 12:57 |
Fixer |
i want to believe |
| 12:59 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: in my server we put people in the jail |
| 12:59 |
Megaf |
and depending on how the player behaves, he is either left there for a period of time, released or banned |
| 13:04 |
IhrFussel |
Megaf, I only allow 1 account per person (not per IP since siblings should be allowed to play for example) which is not easy to control ... but with this new command I might find the black sheep easier |
| 13:04 |
Aerozoic |
Is that a joke? |
| 13:04 |
Aerozoic |
Did i miss something? |
| 13:04 |
Megaf |
I dont quite get it either |
| 13:05 |
Aerozoic |
Guilty until proven innocent? WTF? |
| 13:06 |
IhrFussel |
Well we don't flag accounts for no reason...an account has to act very suspicious to us to get flagged... and getting flagged doesn't ban them it's just an internal account state |
| 13:06 |
Fixer |
Aerozoic: "bot-like players"... |
| 13:07 |
IhrFussel |
Fixer, not sure if you could ever find out which players are "bots" and which are just confused people who don't know how to play |
| 13:08 |
Aerozoic |
Are you referring to the flood of new accounts with 3 or 4 numbers at the end? |
| 13:11 |
Fixer |
Aerozoic: not really |
| 13:13 |
Fixer |
Aerozoic: here is strange example: https://i.imgur.com/dHhFvFI.png |
| 13:16 |
Aerozoic |
I feel like i've walked into the middle of a conversation without knowing what started it. |
| 13:16 |
Aerozoic |
What you have said so far sounds like a witch hunt. |
| 13:20 |
Megaf |
Fixer: that should have all privs revoked and baned straight away |
| 13:21 |
Fixer |
Megaf: but, is it bot like? |
| 13:21 |
Megaf |
I don't care |
| 13:21 |
Megaf |
If behaves well, build nicely and is not impolite. It can play on my server, I don't care if bot, dog or parrot |
| 13:22 |
Fixer |
oh, you reminded me to try this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16083 |
| 13:36 |
Megaf |
How do I unboard the train in adv trains? |
| 13:46 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: Fixer: Please confirm on client side FPS is higher when disabling node hilighting and colision boxes in advanced config |
| 13:47 |
Megaf |
or at leasr jitter is lower |
| 13:50 |
Fixer |
lol, secret maps for that megawad - remake of duke nukem level 1 and RTCW level 1 |
| 13:50 |
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| 13:51 |
IhrFussel |
FPS is same, dtime_jitter is maybe 1% lower for me |
| 13:51 |
srifqi |
Hey! |
| 14:20 |
Aerozoic |
IhrFussel, is it true you plan to target suspicious accounts without any proof and then force them to prove their innocence? |
| 14:29 |
red-001 |
sofar, seems someone has some grief with you or something https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19136 also how can user have 13 posts when only 4 are shown? |
| 14:29 |
red-001 |
deleted posts? |
| 14:30 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 14:30 |
sfan5 |
posts in inaccessible sections of the forum |
| 14:30 |
Krock |
the trash/contaminated material section? |
| 14:31 |
red-001 |
is that where you move stuff you want to delete? |
| 14:31 |
red-001 |
but have a record of? |
| 14:31 |
sfan5 |
yea |
| 14:33 |
red-001 |
is that what happened with that minehacker topic? |
| 14:33 |
IhrFussel |
Aerozoic, if you think that this would be bad practice I'm not sure what I should tell you... there are servers that just ban you out of boredom, ban you for arguing with staff, or put you in jail for DAYS for every single thing a player does wrong ... I don't see my idea as bad as those |
| 14:34 |
sfan5 |
red-001, probably |
| 14:34 |
Aerozoic |
IhrFussel, i'm not judging. I'm simply trying to understand, as i have indicated earlier i feel like i don't fully understand what's going on. |
| 14:36 |
IhrFussel |
Aerozoic, I only allow 1 account per *person* on my server...this is an official rule everyone have to follow ... now I noticed some just ignore that rule or try to sneak another alt account in and this method about flagging potential alt accounts helps a lot ... of course there will be false positives but those always can prove their identity |
| 14:38 |
IhrFussel |
I don't want to restrict accounts per IP because it's not unlikely that 2 or more play MT in the same household |
| 14:41 |
red-001 |
IhrFussel, how do you handle that situation if they share a pc? |
| 14:42 |
shivajiva |
I operated on 5 names per IP and made it clear that if one gets banned they all get banned. It worked well enough without appearing to restrictive |
| 14:42 |
shivajiva |
+o |
| 14:45 |
IhrFussel |
red-001, it's not easy to verify anything via just the IP ... cause you have no clue what really happens in front of that PC/device |
| 14:47 |
IhrFussel |
So I created my own "stalker scripts" which watch what players do based on certain things and compare those things to other players (like writing style) and then alert me if they found something suspicious |
| 14:48 |
shivajiva |
you realise how extreme that sounds :D |
| 14:48 |
Aerozoic |
Yeah seriously! |
| 14:49 |
IhrFussel |
Since MT doesn't want to implement a unique identifier I feel like such scripts are much needed ... The way my server works would really be broken in case someone got multiple accounts |
| 14:50 |
IhrFussel |
I cannot trust what my players tell me anymore...they just say "oh no this is my brother/sister" and think they can keep the account |
| 14:52 |
IhrFussel |
Sometimes they are dumb enough to reveal their identity when no staff is online, but some hide it pretty well |
| 14:53 |
shivajiva |
many players operated feeder accounts on skyblocks, it amused me that they thought it necessary given you can grind unlimited blocks as long as you have collected the ores. |
| 14:54 |
IhrFussel |
shivajiva, on my server there are some commands players can use every X hours to get some items... that could be abused with multiple accounts for example |
| 14:55 |
IhrFussel |
In fact I sometimes see accounts just join to send that command and leave again |
| 14:56 |
IhrFussel |
And that many ISPs give their customers dynamic IPs makes the tracking even harder |
| 14:56 |
shivajiva |
kids pm their real 'ident' to players they know after a short time. It was smart shops but I figured if they wanted to do it 5 times they could get 10 shops, seemed okay given the effort |
| 14:59 |
shivajiva |
given the visible flaws it just restricts what you can do that they can't exploit. I wouldn't open it up and then try and police it, too much effort writing code and spending time watching |
| 15:01 |
shivajiva |
at least spawn grief is a lot harder these days lol |
| 15:06 |
Aerozoic |
IhrFussel, i understand now the reason for your efforts. What makes me question you is that you indicated that you would single out players based on a suspicion and then force them to prove innocence. Enforcing the rule this way would result in a much larger percentage innocent players getting punished than guilty players. |
| 15:09 |
IhrFussel |
Aerozoic, there is no real "punishment" for those "flagged as potential alt-account" states ... it's just a method to have a better overview over the suspicious accounts |
| 15:09 |
Aerozoic |
Oh sorry! I thought you were using it as a method of punishment. |
| 15:10 |
IhrFussel |
Instead of watching all accounts closely I only need to watch those more that my moderators flagged |
| 15:11 |
IhrFussel |
I thought about "temp banning" the flagged accounts first, but decided against it since my moderators also have no proof at that point..it's just a "smart guess" |
| 15:18 |
Aerozoic |
Sorry for putting you on the spot and thanks for explaining it out! |
| 15:20 |
Krock |
Offtopic: I can now remove hills and holes http://krock-works.16mb.com/u/flat-2017-12-25_16.15.42.mp4 |
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| 15:28 |
benrob0329 |
Krock: noice |
| 15:28 |
benrob0329 |
What is that grass texture though? It looks nice |
| 15:28 |
Krock |
0.3.x classic textures |
| 15:29 |
benrob0329 |
Thats just sad |
| 15:31 |
benrob0329 |
#bringbackthegoodgrasstexture |
| 15:33 |
Krock |
duh.. I just flattened a huge cliff... resulting in a half-sphere towards the lower point |
| 15:37 |
Krock |
flattening an area of 82*82 nodes takes 1944 ms |
| 15:44 |
benrob0329 |
Krock: did you see my faked entity semitransparency screenshot? (For the tardis) |
| 15:44 |
Krock |
benrob0329, it's stretching tree trunks in order to make them still look right if the terrain is lowered by 1 or 2 nodes. Here's a bit more: https://i.imgur.com/ET7JQZO.png |
| 15:44 |
Krock |
no, I haven't seen it yet |
| 15:44 |
* benrob0329 |
uploaded an image: screenshot_20171224_194517.png (871KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/AQPPCxxNuEZkfmtyoXmZxvbp> |
| 15:45 |
benrob0329 |
Fighting with the mipmap, unfortunately |
| 15:45 |
Krock |
nice! can it emit light? |
| 15:45 |
benrob0329 |
Can entities emit light? |
| 15:47 |
benrob0329 |
But this way I can have a timing loop for fading in/out that is much smoother than the current node setup, without defining extra nodes |
| 15:48 |
benrob0329 |
255 steps over 21 seconds is about 12 fps |
| 15:50 |
benrob0329 |
A loop of minetest.after(0.08) that change the texture should do it |
| 15:50 |
benrob0329 |
Er, 256 steps |
| 15:52 |
benrob0329 |
I may need to increase the steps if its too much server load |
| 15:52 |
benrob0329 |
But changing texture should be fine |
| 15:59 |
Fixer |
finished hell on earth megawad starter pack |
| 16:03 |
Krock |
benrob0329, they can have "glow", which doesn't emit light like torches. You could use an invisible node to make the light :) |
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| 16:11 |
Jordach |
merry christmas |
| 16:18 |
benrob0329 |
Krock: thats the plan, but can nodes be sprites? |
| 16:19 |
benrob0329 |
Because then I could add a fog glow effect |
| 16:19 |
benrob0329 |
If not I can do a plantlike mesh, it just wont look as cool |
| 16:21 |
Krock |
merry xmas, Jordach |
| 16:22 |
Krock |
benrob0329, no. sprites are entities, nodes have fixed positions. so no light emission for sprites (yet) |
| 16:22 |
Krock |
but you can make them appear brighter with the "glow" property |
| 16:23 |
benrob0329 |
Krock: yes, but I cant use an entity for the light |
| 16:25 |
Krock |
yes |
| 16:29 |
benrob0329 |
So I'll just make a second loop to set/unset a light node, with a mesh and glow effect |
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| 16:46 |
Fixer |
merry Jordach, Xmas |
| 16:46 |
Fixer |
also, DoomMetalVol4.zip |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
:^) |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
https://i.imgur.com/RXnbOzF.jpg |
| 16:48 |
nerzhul |
merry christmas :) |
| 16:49 |
Krock |
Jordach, are you browsing on imgur, looking for memes and not selfies? |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
memesw |
| 16:49 |
Krock |
reeeee hello |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
10646 Dogecoin (DOGE) = 80.77 GBP |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
FeelsGoodMan |
| 16:50 |
Krock |
memesw = memes with multibyte character support (like ncursesw) |
| 16:52 |
Fixer |
90 kb/sec :( |
| 17:02 |
nerzhul |
did you see m$ will add UNIX sockets support to windows, lol |
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| 17:46 |
red-001 |
sfan5, |
| 17:46 |
red-001 |
ManElevation on the minetest discord seems to have had their server banned from the list, so told them to contact you |
| 17:47 |
sfan5 |
if you tell me how that server is named I can fix it right this instant |
| 17:55 |
sfan5 |
red-001, tell him to try again |
| 17:57 |
benrob0329 |
>discord |
| 17:57 |
benrob0329 |
Eww |
| 17:58 |
red-001 |
* [benrob0329] (benrob0329 gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jujwehsndmslozxt): @Benrob0329:matrix.org |
| 17:59 |
red-001 |
sfan5, they are getting a 418 now |
| 18:00 |
benrob0329 |
red-001: at least matrix is decentralized, Discord is both open and federated |
| 18:00 |
benrob0329 |
Er |
| 18:00 |
benrob0329 |
Crap |
| 18:00 |
red-001 |
is minetest a teapot? |
| 18:00 |
benrob0329 |
Reverse that statement |
| 18:01 |
sfan5 |
red-001, maybe his server is a teapot? (tell him to try again) |
| 18:02 |
Krock |
benrob0329, https://i.imgflip.com/21oaqi.jpg |
| 18:02 |
red-001 |
detaredef dna nepo htob si drocsiD ,dezilartneced si xirtam tsael ta :100-der |
| 18:02 |
Krock |
!rev detaredef dna nepo htob si drocsiD ,dezilartneced si xirtam tsael ta :100-der |
| 18:02 |
MinetestBot |
red-001: at least matrix is decentralized, Discord is both open and federated |
| 18:03 |
red-001 |
:( shadow bot isn't here |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja has gone into the shadows |
| 18:03 |
red-001 |
I wanted to make mt-bot run a shadowbot command |
| 18:03 |
Krock |
ShadowBot doesn't even have kitten images. Why do you need them here? |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
red-001: got patched a while ago |
| 18:03 |
red-001 |
yeah what happened to the ninja |
| 18:03 |
Krock |
real life happened |
| 18:04 |
red-001 |
!rev detaredef dna nepo htob si drocsiD ,dezilartneced si xirtam tsael ta :100-der ver! |
| 18:04 |
MinetestBot |
!rev red-001: at least matrix is decentralized, Discord is both open and federated |
| 18:04 |
red-001 |
0/10 doesn't support nested reversing |
| 18:06 |
benrob0329 |
Krock: exactly |
| 18:07 |
Jordach |
https://i.imgur.com/AVRObOv.jpg |
| 18:07 |
Jordach |
meow |
| 18:07 |
Krock |
!cat |
| 18:07 |
MinetestBot |
http://i.imgur.com/w9c7A6x.jpg |
| 18:07 |
Krock |
Jordach, add it to MTB |
| 18:08 |
red-001 |
DistrictPvP, Minetest España, MineQuest and Become a Pro! |
| 18:09 |
benrob0329 |
>making a server for an open source game engine on a proprietary chat network |
| 18:09 |
benrob0329 |
Seems legit |
| 18:09 |
red-001 |
they started the last one back but it seems to not be showing up |
| 18:09 |
Jordach |
>looks at the open source options |
| 18:09 |
Jordach |
>unfinished |
| 18:09 |
Jordach |
>broken |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
>doesn't have a UX that's actually usable |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
no wonder why there's no linux in businesses except for servers |
| 18:10 |
red-001 |
>cares about what chat software they use and not how well it works or doesn't |
| 18:10 |
benrob0329 |
Its like how LBRY is a p2p, decentralized media network and uses Discord to chat about it |
| 18:11 |
Krock |
Jordach, is matrix broken? |
| 18:11 |
Jordach |
looks like ass |
| 18:11 |
benrob0329 |
>doesnt care what the Frick happens to their data |
| 18:11 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: wrong |
| 18:11 |
Krock |
asses also can look quite pretty btw |
| 18:11 |
benrob0329 |
Riot looks like ass, Matrix (the protocol) looks amazing |
| 18:12 |
sfan5 |
red-001, I don't see any problems on my side |
| 18:12 |
benrob0329 |
I mean its json over https, how much better can you get than that? |
| 18:12 |
Jordach |
benrob0329: now ask normies to use it |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
at face value |
| 18:13 |
benrob0329 |
>when discord goes down more than Matrix.org |
| 18:13 |
benrob0329 |
Kek |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
with acting like stallman included |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
that ain't selling ever |
| 18:13 |
Krock |
Jordach, relevant: https://b2aeaa58a57a200320db-8b65b95250e902c437b256b5abf3eac7.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/media_entries/15447/nice_proprietary_software.medium.png |
| 18:13 |
benrob0329 |
I give a crap about Normies why? |
| 18:13 |
red-001 |
Krock, lol |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
they're you're userbase |
| 18:13 |
benrob0329 |
It should be good, not pandering |
| 18:14 |
benrob0329 |
And Riot is getting better, just slower than I'd like |
| 18:15 |
benrob0329 |
Better than any mobile irc client anyways :^) |
| 18:15 |
* Jordach |
laughs in quasseldroid |
| 18:16 |
Krock |
red-001, it's still 2017 so that doesn't work well |
| 18:17 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: get a normie to use that ;) |
| 18:17 |
red-001 |
Krock, not if I had my way |
| 18:17 |
Jordach |
Normie: What's IRC |
| 18:18 |
red-001 |
like can we just move on to 2018 already? |
| 18:18 |
Krock |
red-001, make a PR for that 8) |
| 18:21 |
red-001 |
Krock, done |
| 18:21 |
red-001 |
https://github.com/ohnxboi/sendprshere/pull/20 |
| 18:22 |
benrob0329 |
red-001: got a week to go |
| 18:25 |
Krock |
red-001, repos are like subreddits. you don't expect that anything like this even exists |
| 18:34 |
red-001 |
https://i.imgur.com/IHc2Buo.jpg |
| 18:38 |
red-001 |
sfan5, it's still not working for them |
| 18:38 |
red-001 |
they are getting teapot errors again now |
| 18:38 |
red-001 |
2017-12-25 19:24:20: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 418) |
| 18:42 |
Fixer |
damn, brutal doom is so good |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
^ |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
my phone can run brutal doom v21 |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
:^) |
| 18:42 |
Raven262 |
Fixer, Try project Brutality. |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, Fixer, i managed to fix that 1 sec stutter with wardrobe |
| 18:43 |
Raven262 |
It adds a few more options, and new weapons. |
| 18:43 |
Fixer |
Jordach: nice, i've noticed big freeze back then too |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
Fixer: .x loading for entities is inefficient |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
but .b3d is perfect |
| 18:44 |
Jordach |
(and since it only wants a single material, it should've been .b3d from the get go) |
| 18:44 |
Jordach |
but i'm working on some secret sauce right now |
| 18:44 |
Jordach |
that involves plenty of black and entity magic |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
and as usual i've included wardrobe API support |
| 18:47 |
benrob0329 |
Can I use backface culling with entities? |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
it's already done by the engine |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
EXCEPT on players for some reason |
| 18:48 |
benrob0329 |
Kek |
| 18:53 |
benrob0329 |
>contemplates making the tardis controls "explode" when trying to teleport into a solid node |
| 18:54 |
benrob0329 |
Slighly harder to move solid matter out of the way :^) |
| 19:07 |
sfan5 |
red-001, he's trying to announce a raw IPv6 addr, he needs to fix his config |
| 19:54 |
Jordach |
using the entity on_rightclick makes self and clicker return nil on clicking |
| 19:54 |
Jordach |
i have forgotten how it works |
| 19:55 |
Jordach |
wait never mind |
| 19:55 |
Jordach |
mob:on_rightclick(clicker) |
| 19:55 |
Jordach |
self is automatic if its a local |
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| 20:08 |
Jordach |
how do i modify object properties to hide players |
| 20:10 |
Krock |
myplayer:set_properties({is_visible = false}) |
| 20:10 |
Krock |
!next |
| 20:10 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
| 20:10 |
Jordach |
doesn't work for third person |
| 20:13 |
Krock |
if it works with a 2nd player but not in 3rd person ~~> issues++ |
| 20:26 |
Jordach |
not in third person either |
| 20:26 |
Jordach |
from a second client |
| 20:30 |
Sokomine |
regarding sofars posting...how safe is a formspec stored in metadata plus on_receive_fields? there's no way to combine that with manual right-clicking |
| 20:30 |
rubenwardy |
anything submitted isn't safe |
| 20:31 |
rubenwardy |
no matter how the formspec is displayed |
| 20:31 |
rubenwardy |
or if it isn't displayed at all |
| 20:31 |
rubenwardy |
however, clients can't modify metadata |
| 20:31 |
rubenwardy |
they can read it if you don't mark as private |
| 20:32 |
Jordach |
Krock: doesn't apply |
| 20:33 |
Jordach |
and fucking hell wuzzy did a shitty job on hudbars |
| 20:33 |
Krock |
Jordach, expand your explanation of the situation please |
| 20:33 |
Jordach |
on_rightclick(clicker )clicker:set_properties({ is_visible = false }) |
| 20:36 |
Sokomine |
rubenwardy: hmm. one might assume that the server does some checks on its own. if it doesn't there's hardly any chance to check manually. plausibility checks would be possible - i.e. "is the player not too far away" - but that won't cover "there's a thick wall between player and node" |
| 20:38 |
Sokomine |
Jordach: there is at least one mod which hides the tag of the player. and another(?) that changes the player's texture to almost invisible, with some eyes beeing the only thing left |
| 20:52 |
red-001 |
sofar, any idea what would happen if player:set_pos is called but the player has disconnected? |
| 20:56 |
Krock |
^ nothing. the SAO is NULL/nullptr |
| 20:57 |
Krock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/script/lua_api/l_object.cpp#L180 |
| 21:08 |
Jordach |
you need voice to be in here, VanessaE |
| 21:08 |
Jordach |
:^) |
| 21:08 |
VanessaE |
preemptive ban. |
| 21:08 |
* Jordach |
shrugs |
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| 21:10 |
IhrFussel |
Did you guys get a PM by gennyex11 too? |
| 21:10 |
Jordach |
^ |
| 21:10 |
red-001 |
IhrFussel, spambot? |
| 21:11 |
Jordach |
all these flavours and you choose salty |
| 21:14 |
IhrFussel |
2nd PM by gennyex11 |
| 21:14 |
red-001 |
IhrFussel, is it a bot? |
| 21:14 |
IhrFussel |
red-001, message is the same just with different colors |
| 21:15 |
IhrFussel |
And to everyone who didn't get that PM: It's very racist |
| 21:16 |
red-001 |
IhrFussel, whole botnet of them |
| 21:16 |
red-001 |
dunno why it only messaged you |
| 21:16 |
IhrFussel |
I hope it's okay to post here...the PM was "HAPPY NIGGER MAS!! IF YOU WANT JOIN A CELEBRATION THAT IS NIGGER FREE PLEASE JOIN #/JOIN RIGHT HERE ON THIS NETWORK!!" |
| 21:17 |
* Jordach |
shrugs again |
| 21:17 |
VanessaE |
we know, IhrFussel |
| 21:17 |
VanessaE |
same shit every time |
| 21:18 |
red-001 |
IhrFussel, don't repost the spam |
| 21:18 |
red-001 |
that gets you k-line |
| 21:18 |
red-001 |
or should but freenode is struggling with that rn |
| 21:21 |
IhrFussel |
Spam usually has the intention of advertise something ... That text makes no sense |
| 21:21 |
Shara |
I always seem to miss the spam somehow :) |
| 21:22 |
red-001 |
some does, sometimes it's just to piss people off |
| 21:22 |
VanessaE |
it's only meant to flood and annoy, IhrFussel |
| 21:22 |
Shara |
Preemptive bans are good, but they wouldn't be able to spam here anyway |
| 21:22 |
CWz |
what's going on |
| 21:26 |
Sokomine |
IhrFussel: just dispose it properly in the trash bin where it belongs to :-) |
| 21:26 |
benrob0329 |
I dont get PMs from unregistered users :^) |
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| 21:51 |
Jordach |
how would i convert radians to a x,y,z movement vector |
| 22:08 |
Krock |
uhm.. trigonometric functions? |
| 22:08 |
Krock |
see also: minetest.yaw_to_dir(yaw) |
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Fixer |
lol, run nuts.wad, rip |
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