| Time |
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| 00:00 |
Megaf |
slight, like, bonet and hood. lift and escalator |
| 00:00 |
Megaf |
oops |
| 00:00 |
Megaf |
lift and elevator |
| 00:01 |
Megaf |
very similar... |
| 00:01 |
Megaf |
donuts and doughnuts |
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| 00:02 |
Megaf |
Mr-Pardison: learn. https://capaworld.capa.org/2014/01/16/irish-english-vs-american-english-never-seems |
| 00:03 |
Megaf |
and this http://www.stevenroyedwards.com/euroenglishdifferent.html |
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| 00:53 |
* sofar |
goes $HOME |
| 00:53 |
* Mr_Pardison |
is at home and feels like he might need a drink. |
| 00:53 |
Mr_Pardison |
water, ofc. |
| 00:56 |
Megaf |
I'm drinking water now |
| 00:56 |
Megaf |
while trying to get ClearLinux to work on VirtualBox |
| 00:56 |
Megaf |
perhaps I will need to use the installer |
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| 01:00 |
benrob0329 |
sofar: do you know if /proc/btime is since kernel or init? |
| 01:12 |
benrob0329 |
nvm |
| 01:21 |
benrob0329 |
Laptop Boot Time: 3.94 seconds |
| 01:21 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: can you create a server benchmark mod? |
| 01:21 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: possibly, what's needed? |
| 01:21 |
Megaf |
Something that would measure Lua operations per second and mapgen performance |
| 01:21 |
Megaf |
mapgen I mean, the v7 built in mapgen |
| 01:22 |
benrob0329 |
that may be difficult, I don't think either of those things are recorded |
| 01:22 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: so a Lua mod that calculated a pi number up to 10000 for example |
| 01:22 |
benrob0329 |
ohh, like a seperate thing |
| 01:24 |
Mr-Pardison |
Sokomine: https://github.com/Ezhh/warp_potions |
| 01:25 |
Mr-Pardison |
under the features section in the README |
| 01:42 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: ok, I have a pi calculator |
| 01:42 |
benrob0329 |
going to set the iterations to a sane number |
| 01:42 |
benrob0329 |
I don't think this was a sane number... |
| 01:43 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: common man, I'd do it myself if I knew Lua, it's not difficult |
| 01:43 |
benrob0329 |
5000000000 iterations: |
| 01:43 |
benrob0329 |
lua benchmark.lua 78.01s user 0.00s system 99% cpu 1:18.72 total |
| 01:43 |
benrob0329 |
might be a bit too many lol |
| 01:45 |
benrob0329 |
maybe 10 million iterations |
| 01:45 |
Megaf |
10000 is enough |
| 01:45 |
Megaf |
or anything that will take 30 seconds in your hardware |
| 01:46 |
benrob0329 |
this calculates pi to an increasing accuracy, but not to a decimal place |
| 01:47 |
benrob0329 |
https://gist.github.com/benrob0329/fa720f235833bd498db4784da6d1ba9e |
| 01:47 |
benrob0329 |
lua benchmark.lua 15.59s user 0.00s system 99% cpu 15.726 total |
| 01:47 |
benrob0329 |
on this i5 laptop |
| 01:48 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: but I need a mod for the server |
| 01:48 |
Megaf |
to benchmark the server |
| 01:48 |
Megaf |
the output of it can go on the console/terminal yes |
| 01:48 |
benrob0329 |
so, you want me to turn this into a mod with a chatcommand or something? |
| 01:49 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: so basically we need something to benchmark minetestserver |
| 01:49 |
Megaf |
so we can compare compiler flags, OSes and stuff |
| 01:49 |
benrob0329 |
I'll probably have to use popen so that I can get the output of time |
| 01:49 |
Megaf |
so we can compare LuaJIT vs builtin Lua and so on |
| 01:49 |
benrob0329 |
since lua doesnt have built in stuff |
| 01:49 |
Megaf |
the pi calculation should be done entirely in Lua |
| 01:49 |
benrob0329 |
no wait, ok I'll have to figure something out in lua |
| 01:50 |
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| 01:50 |
benrob0329 |
can't call external interpreters |
| 01:50 |
Megaf |
https://te4.org/blogs/nate/2013/04/development-log/benchmarking-lua |
| 02:23 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: https://github.com/benrob0329/benchmark |
| 02:24 |
Megaf |
I'm impressed |
| 02:24 |
Megaf |
let me build a server now |
| 02:24 |
Megaf |
to test it |
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| 02:42 |
Megaf |
back |
| 02:42 |
Megaf |
I gotta get a DNS for my new dedicated |
| 02:43 |
rubenwardy |
nice |
| 02:43 |
rubenwardy |
although, why? |
| 02:45 |
Megaf |
because I don't remember my IP |
| 02:45 |
rubenwardy |
huh |
| 02:45 |
rubenwardy |
do you mean domain name? :D |
| 02:45 |
Megaf |
also, I have no idea what's my password for the dashboard |
| 02:47 |
Megaf |
not terribly worried |
| 02:49 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: I'm building a test server here |
| 02:49 |
Megaf |
will take a while |
| 03:04 |
Megaf |
This new behaviour of Minetest of obligating you to first login in game so you can use commands in the terminal is fucking bloody stupid |
| 03:04 |
Megaf |
let me rephrase that |
| 03:05 |
Megaf |
It is not very productive having to build the client when all one wants is perform some quick tests in a test server |
| 03:06 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: for some weird reason kimsufi is not accepting my password |
| 03:06 |
Megaf |
I thoug I had forgotten it, but I havent |
| 03:16 |
Megaf |
thought |
| 03:19 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: you there? |
| 03:24 |
Megaf |
=/ |
| 03:26 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: I had my first problem with kimsufi today |
| 03:26 |
Megaf |
for almost one hour it was saying my password was incorrect |
| 03:26 |
Megaf |
now it finally logged in |
| 03:26 |
Megaf |
it was correct the whole time |
| 03:30 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: yes |
| 03:30 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: so the output of /benchmark is 3.1415926533882 |
| 03:30 |
Megaf |
Done. |
| 03:31 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: output is in chat |
| 03:32 |
benrob0329 |
I should probably make the output in both though |
| 03:34 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: well, an admin will be most of the time just using the terminal |
| 03:34 |
Megaf |
at least that's my case |
| 03:34 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: pushed change, it'll print to console now |
| 03:34 |
Megaf |
thanks |
| 03:35 |
benrob0329 |
but hey, it calculates Pi properly :D |
| 03:41 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: I tested in two servers, here on my Core2Duo and in my dedicated |
| 03:41 |
Megaf |
both built from the same source and same build flags |
| 03:42 |
Megaf |
server here crashed... |
| 03:42 |
Megaf |
well, problem is something else |
| 03:44 |
Megaf |
207.178963 |
| 03:45 |
Megaf |
^ my dedicated benrob0329 |
| 03:51 |
Megaf |
http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/Minetest_Irrlicht_LuaJIT_SQLite_For_Linux_Builder/commit/7a4cbcd33a590ec2c249366e007d25e961ce4da0?style=unified |
| 03:51 |
benrob0329 |
Quite a bit slower than my laptop, I'm kind of surprised |
| 03:52 |
Megaf |
I'm not, it's an old Atom at 1,86 GHz |
| 03:52 |
Megaf |
what's your CPU benrob0329? |
| 03:53 |
benrob0329 |
7th Gen i5 |
| 03:53 |
benrob0329 |
Idr the clock |
| 03:53 |
Megaf |
hah |
| 03:54 |
benrob0329 |
Little bit newer :D |
| 03:54 |
Megaf |
Atom was never meant for performance |
| 03:54 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: in around one week I will try to get my old workstation back online |
| 03:55 |
benrob0329 |
So I suppose we could make a benchmarking forum topic |
| 03:55 |
benrob0329 |
Since we actually have a benchmark now |
| 03:56 |
Megaf |
yep, but not yet |
| 03:56 |
Megaf |
I want to make the mod even better |
| 03:56 |
benrob0329 |
mapgen benchmark? |
| 03:56 |
Megaf |
we have to add some messages to the benchmark |
| 03:56 |
Megaf |
like, starting benchmark |
| 03:56 |
Megaf |
and then, your server took x seconds to do this thing |
| 03:56 |
benrob0329 |
Ah |
| 03:57 |
Megaf |
also, mapgen bench yes |
| 03:57 |
Megaf |
and for that we already have emergeblocks |
| 03:57 |
Megaf |
problem is, that wouldnt be safe for production servers |
| 03:57 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: other benchmark thing would make an abm and make it do something as quick as possible |
| 03:58 |
benrob0329 |
ABM, nor node timer? |
| 03:58 |
Megaf |
then count how much things it did |
| 03:58 |
benrob0329 |
*or |
| 03:58 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: maybe |
| 03:58 |
Megaf |
node timer maybe |
| 04:04 |
benrob0329 |
Could make a times loop using os.time |
| 04:04 |
benrob0329 |
*timed |
| 04:05 |
benrob0329 |
To check emerge_area |
| 04:05 |
Megaf |
does windows have that? |
| 04:07 |
benrob0329 |
Dunno, I would assume so |
| 04:07 |
benrob0329 |
Most servers are Linux though |
| 04:07 |
benrob0329 |
Test the benchmark mod on a Windows machine if you have one, though |
| 04:19 |
benrob0329 |
made a sleep function, yay |
| 04:19 |
benrob0329 |
I can now slow down server by doing absolutely nothing :D |
| 04:22 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: should the mapgen benchmark just emerge some area way off in the 30k realm? |
| 05:01 |
benrob0329 |
>Minetest %150 cpu |
| 05:01 |
benrob0329 |
this was a bad idea |
| 05:02 |
benrob0329 |
emerging a 5k block difference was a very bad idea |
| 05:03 |
benrob0329 |
emerging 5 million blocks, what could go wrong? |
| 05:04 |
benrob0329 |
my laptop is a hand warmer |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 09:04 |
Amaz |
Morning ten |
| 09:05 |
tenplus1 |
hi amaz |
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* tenplus1 |
is testing chromium 63 |
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tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
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| 11:18 |
tenplus1 |
hi fus |
| 11:18 |
tenplus1 |
*sel :P |
| 11:19 |
IhrFussel |
Hey there tenplus1 =) I was wondering why players barely received any damage from mobs even though I upped the difficulty quite a bit...turns out the problem was that they healed too fast...now I modified the stamina mod so that healing can only happen if the player received no damage for 3 seconds |
| 11:19 |
tenplus1 |
armor has a healing chance with it that reduces harm done to them, if you disable that also they WILL feel the pain :D |
| 11:20 |
tenplus1 |
e.g. diamond armor can reduce 12 hit points to 2... it wears the armor but not the player |
| 11:22 |
tenplus1 |
that's on top of the reduction in hit points the armor provides just by wearing it also |
| 11:23 |
tenplus1 |
try reducing the armor_heal group for each armor piece to 0 |
| 11:24 |
IhrFussel |
tenplus1, it's very hard to balance the received damage on my server since I use a custom Hp system... players have level*10 HP..highest level is 52 so it ranges between 10 - 520 HP |
| 11:24 |
tenplus1 |
good point... |
| 11:25 |
IhrFussel |
For now I made it so players level 1-9 are "safe" cause the mobs only do 1 damage ... but at 10 it can get hard to survive when mobs do 5+ damage |
| 11:25 |
tenplus1 |
balancing all of that with armor and armor heal points can be difficult |
| 11:27 |
IhrFussel |
I'm thinking about removing mithril armor (strongest) ... diamond and rainbow only remain then |
| 11:27 |
IhrFussel |
The others below are not really used...players only want the good armor |
| 11:28 |
tenplus1 |
true, they always go for the crystal armor on xanadu |
| 11:28 |
IhrFussel |
I even offer wooden armor for free...but nobody takes it |
| 11:29 |
tenplus1 |
lolol |
| 11:29 |
tenplus1 |
in a true survival setting they'd be glad of it :P |
| 11:30 |
IhrFussel |
I was thinking about maybe scaling the damage based on player level... like a mob does less damage to a level 20 players vs level 40...but that wouldn't look right |
| 11:30 |
tenplus1 |
it's all in the armor healing... |
| 11:30 |
tenplus1 |
you wear good armor and any damage done could be reduced to nothing |
| 11:30 |
IhrFussel |
I'll check the healing values one sec |
| 11:32 |
IhrFussel |
Diamond got heal 2, mithril 7... |
| 11:33 |
tenplus1 |
that's per piece |
| 11:33 |
tenplus1 |
so you wear 5 pieces of diamond armor then the healing goes up to 10 |
| 11:33 |
tenplus1 |
or in mithril up to 35 |
| 11:34 |
IhrFussel |
Not even sure why the modder made mithril that strong by default |
| 11:35 |
tenplus1 |
so 12 hit damage gets dropped to only 2 |
| 11:35 |
tenplus1 |
cause mithril is super rare, and rarity somehow means it has to be given a special advantage :) |
| 11:35 |
IhrFussel |
Crystal is even more crazy |
| 11:35 |
tenplus1 |
heh yeah |
| 11:35 |
IhrFussel |
Heal 12 per piece? |
| 11:35 |
tenplus1 |
but crystal spikes are rare to find :D |
| 11:36 |
tenplus1 |
but will add crystal arrows soon so players can get kileld eaasily by skellys |
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tenplus1 |
gotta go for now... hope you can adjust level tho :) will eb fun to test |
| 11:36 |
tenplus1 |
hi fixer, bye all o/ |
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IhrFussel |
Does full crystal armor even receive damage anymore? |
| 11:37 |
IhrFussel |
!tell tenplus1 Does full crystal armor even receive damage anymore on your server? Sounds like 0 xP |
| 11:37 |
MinetestBot |
IhrFussel: I'll pass that on when tenplus1 is around |
| 11:39 |
Fixer |
hi |
| 11:44 |
Amaz |
lynx |
| 11:44 |
Amaz |
Whoops, wrong terminal :P |
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Fixer |
while we live in 2017, Amaz lives in 3017 |
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jas_ |
#game1974 (re: wood burn times) i think the variety is nice, and the example of adding more details like differing dig times for various trees/woods is a nice goal |
| 14:03 |
jas_ |
#6773, re damage system. i agree that mobs_redo and 3d_armor do not play well together by default (though i use the multiskin branch, not sure how different). |
| 14:05 |
jas_ |
(the effect of always damaging armor is achieved by commenting out the if clause on line 368 of 3d_armor/api.lua) |
| 14:08 |
jas_ |
game#1969 (i forget syntax there), re beds. now there's a mod that could use a redo. always seemed to me to be very finicky, kinda like when you can't sleep at night. |
| 14:09 |
jas_ |
and i'm not just talking about how sometimes the formspec doesn't show up. i recall encountering all sorts of oddities with beds mod |
| 14:12 |
Mr_Pardison |
quick question (trying to hep a player with this): how do you enable support for an older server version if you are using 4.16 but the server says it is running 4.13? |
| 14:13 |
jas_ |
client 4.16 and server 4.13? |
| 14:13 |
jas_ |
0.4.13 lol |
| 14:13 |
Raven262 |
Ah, the old days of 4.13 |
| 14:14 |
Mr_Pardison |
this is an issue with DL (Irontrool is having this problem). |
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jas_ |
i meant to type /close. what happened to #minetest-doc? |
| 14:14 |
Mr_Pardison |
I've encountered this issue b4 but I can't access my other laptop that has the game on it right now. |
| 14:15 |
jas_ |
nvm i had #minetest-docs in my autojoin |
| 14:15 |
jas_ |
i thought 0.4.16 would connect to 0.4.13 ok |
| 14:15 |
jas_ |
:P |
| 14:15 |
jas_ |
i mean :O |
| 14:15 |
jas_ |
wow those two letters are close together |
| 14:15 |
Mr_Pardison |
DL is running 4.16 |
| 14:15 |
jas_ |
DL? |
| 14:15 |
Mr_Pardison |
DarkLands. |
| 14:15 |
jas_ |
oh the server is 0.4.16 ok |
| 14:15 |
Mr_Pardison |
It's been acting up recently. |
| 14:15 |
jas_ |
and then the client is 0.4.13? |
| 14:16 |
jas_ |
that there may be your problem. |
| 14:16 |
Mr_Pardison |
client is running 4.16 but when they try to join it said that the server is running 4.13 |
| 14:16 |
jas_ |
but you said it was running 0.4.16? |
| 14:16 |
Mr_Pardison |
yes. |
| 14:16 |
jas_ |
so who's telling the truth, man? haha |
| 14:16 |
Mr_Pardison |
I've come across this thing myself and it said that I had to enable support for older servers. |
| 14:16 |
Shara |
Mr_Pardison: just take it to sniper338 |
| 14:16 |
jas_ |
anyway i thought a 0.4.16 could connect to a 0.4.13 but maybe not, i never actually tried |
| 14:17 |
Shara |
The server is .16, not .13 |
| 14:17 |
jas_ |
now see there's an option to disable support for older clients |
| 14:17 |
jas_ |
but that's off by default. |
| 14:17 |
jas_ |
strict_protocol_version_checking i think |
| 14:17 |
Mr_Pardison |
Shara: ik but it is giving them that error. I have come across this thing myself. |
| 14:17 |
Mr_Pardison |
I'll tell them to enable support for older versions in the settings. |
| 14:18 |
jas_ |
now that's a server setting |
| 14:18 |
Shara |
Mr_Pardison: we have server channels for a reason |
| 14:19 |
Shara |
Why not take these to the server admins? |
| 14:20 |
Mr_Pardison |
I didn't want to bug you in case u were busy with stuff. |
| 14:20 |
jas_ |
maybe they tried to connect to the wrong server, there are a few 0.4.13 servers up |
| 14:20 |
jas_ |
three on the list |
| 14:20 |
Shara |
I'm very busy, but sniper338 is the one you need to take this to. He manages the server |
| 14:21 |
Mr_Pardison |
k. |
| 14:21 |
Shara |
If you don't know the admin channel for reporting DL issues, send me a PM and I'll give you it |
| 14:23 |
* Mr_Pardison |
goes back to working on stuff for english class (lots of things to do like take notes for a test on Thursday and blogs which I really need to get done) |
| 14:23 |
jas_ |
\ when it comes to house every weekend \ house every weekend |
| 14:25 |
Raven262 |
My dungeon elements have gone 3D :D https://i.imgur.com/20w3YIl.png |
| 14:26 |
Raven262 |
Read: Staircase |
| 14:28 |
IhrFussel |
This is likely the error with the server version...it happens when you try connect to a server while it is still booting or in shutdown state ... certain mods can extend the shutdown time of a server a LOT (like moretrees) https://pastebin.com/qsPGkpuk |
| 14:28 |
sniper338 |
Mr_Pardison: Here I come! :'( |
| 14:28 |
sniper338 |
Shara: Did u set path findin 2 false btw? :\ |
| 14:28 |
Shara |
No, since everyone said the server was fine last night |
| 14:29 |
sniper338 |
K der log is gettin massive spam again... |
| 14:29 |
Shara |
Can you try setting it to false? |
| 14:29 |
Shara |
I don't know why this would cause clients to think the server is an older version though... |
| 14:30 |
sniper338 |
Huh well duno bout version but 1 thing 4 sure; dis is causin serious lag :\ |
| 14:30 |
IhrFussel |
It's a misleading error message anyway and I already suggested a few times to change it ... in most cases that error happens it is NOT caused by an old server version |
| 14:31 |
sniper338 |
Shara: Also in der folder, there's ~2.5GB of txt file 4 logs... :/ |
| 14:31 |
IhrFussel |
Is there even *one* server with protocol version <25? |
| 14:31 |
Shara |
There's already an issue, so this 'should' get fixed before next release ... but we obviously need to make the server playable again before then |
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IhrFussel was kicked by benrob0329: Kicked by @Benrob0329:matrix.org |
| 14:31 |
Shara |
sniper338: I'll clean logs tonight |
| 14:32 |
Shara |
This would be easy, if it would log the way RC does |
| 14:32 |
Shara |
But DL seems to like being awkward |
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IhrFussel |
Umm?? What just happened? |
| 14:33 |
Mr_Pardison |
IhrFussel: benrob0329 kicked u. |
| 14:33 |
Shara |
Uhm, benrob0329, why are you kicking people? |
| 14:33 |
IhrFussel |
Are you out of your mind or something? |
| 14:33 |
benrob0329 |
...what? |
| 14:33 |
Shara |
"IhrFussel left the room (Kicked by benrob0329 (Kicked by @Benrob0329:matrix.org))." |
| 14:33 |
benrob0329 |
O_o |
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| 14:34 |
sniper338 |
Shara: Ya I think dat der massive spam writin 2 dat big log file could b causin some kinda trouble duno... Can I set loggin 2 --quiet? :\ |
| 14:34 |
Shara |
sniper338: I need th elogs. |
| 14:34 |
Shara |
the* |
| 14:34 |
Shara |
The log file also isn't that big, since I start a new file every so often |
| 14:36 |
Megaf |
Shara: benrob0329, shivajiva, and other server admins. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6775 |
| 14:37 |
sniper338 |
Shara: Would rly like 2 set loggin 2 --quiet bcoz I think only der ERRORS r important; der WARNINGS is causin srs spam... :( |
| 14:37 |
Shara |
sniper338: can you please move this to the other channel |
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| 14:38 |
Shara |
This isn't really a thing for -hub |
| 14:38 |
sniper338 |
Shara: I'm sorry :( |
| 14:43 |
jas_ |
Megaf: i agree it slows it down but, there are workarounds |
| 14:45 |
jas_ |
so you could do minetestserver --terminal --user admin_name --password 123 |
| 14:45 |
jas_ |
(but right now it looks for name= in config and uses that for the admin name, regardless of --user) |
| 14:56 |
Megaf |
jas_: I had no idea you could do that |
| 14:56 |
Megaf |
it's not in the --help thing http://paste.debian.net/plain/1000405 |
| 14:56 |
jas_ |
do what? |
| 14:56 |
jas_ |
--user is in --help |
| 14:56 |
Megaf |
see the pastebin |
| 14:57 |
jas_ |
oh i see, minetestserver is different than minetest, here. |
| 14:58 |
jas_ |
i always wondered why minetestserver --user name --password 123 never worked lol |
| 14:59 |
Megaf |
that happens |
| 15:00 |
jas_ |
so minetestserver --user myCoolAdminName --password wutwut --port 30009 --terminal --world d --config no.conf |
| 15:00 |
jas_ |
lol (nevermind) |
| 15:01 |
jas_ |
i guess we're stuck putting name = myNotCoolName in yes.conf |
| 15:02 |
jas_ |
i've had luck with minetest --go --address '' for singleplayer and --address 127.0.0.1 for server instance/environment |
| 15:02 |
jas_ |
using --world newworldname to make the dir with world.mt in it |
| 15:03 |
jas_ |
minetest --go --address '' --world newinstance --gameid myCoolGame |
| 15:03 |
Megaf |
I think the past behaviour was just perfect |
| 15:03 |
Megaf |
not even Linux forces you to set admin password |
| 15:03 |
jas_ |
i like interacting with the in-game world from --terminal, personally. |
| 15:04 |
jas_ |
i use it most always |
| 15:06 |
Megaf |
So do I |
| 15:06 |
jas_ |
however, `minetest --world newinstance' does not work with --go |
| 15:06 |
jas_ |
it appears --go forces there to be a world dir already |
| 15:06 |
Megaf |
you are assuming one have minetest built and installed |
| 15:07 |
Megaf |
Suppose you are at your work place, and all you want is to test a new configuration option |
| 15:07 |
Megaf |
in a fresh server |
| 15:07 |
jas_ |
i was assuming you had minetest built and installed, yes, but now i'm not so sure. |
| 15:08 |
jas_ |
i would whip out my trust laptop |
| 15:08 |
jas_ |
and do it on that, i guess |
| 15:09 |
jas_ |
or ssh into home, but i don't do that |
| 15:10 |
jas_ |
for the record, `minetest --server --world newinstance' will create a fresh newinstance dir and world.mt, et al |
| 15:10 |
jas_ |
(just not with --go) |
| 15:11 |
jas_ |
it's weird, because `--world newWorld' works with minetest --server, but not with `minetest --go --address '' --world newWorld' <-- here --address '' means singleplayer afaik |
| 15:13 |
jas_ |
(doesn't appear so, actually, i take that back.) |
| 15:14 |
jas_ |
basically, i always end up running a `minetest --server --world newWorld' in one terminal, and `minetest --go --address 127.0.0.1' in another |
| 15:14 |
Megaf |
jas_: I don't, that's the whole issue. And I don't want to build the whole game because a server bug or dev decision. |
| 15:14 |
jas_ |
there are oddities with the arguments and how the server or client are invoked, i'm now more confused than i was before |
| 15:14 |
jas_ |
but i don't understand what you mean by not building minetest. |
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| 15:15 |
jas_ |
how else would you test minetest other than to build and run it? |
| 15:16 |
Megaf |
I'm not testing minetest, I'm testing the server |
| 15:16 |
jas_ |
the host machine? |
| 15:16 |
Megaf |
for example, testing performance in two different dedicateds or VPSs |
| 15:16 |
jas_ |
when i say minetest, i'm referring to minetestserver, as well (or minetest --server). |
| 15:16 |
Megaf |
testing gcc vs clang |
| 15:16 |
Megaf |
testing different compiler flags |
| 15:16 |
Megaf |
and how? Well, we are working on a benchmark mod :) |
| 15:16 |
IhrFussel |
jas_, creating a world doesn't work with --worldname unfortunately |
| 15:17 |
jas_ |
not --worldname, it's --world |
| 15:17 |
jas_ |
i apologize |
| 15:17 |
IhrFussel |
No you said --world I meant --worldname exists too but it doesn't work there |
| 15:17 |
jas_ |
(i also run 0.5.0-dev almost exclusively, so this may differ) |
| 15:17 |
Megaf |
--worldname does create a world yes |
| 15:17 |
jas_ |
yes, and --world list works, but not --worldname list |
| 15:17 |
IhrFussel |
--world requires a path --worldname only requires the actual name of the world |
| 15:18 |
jas_ |
minetest --server --world thisWillCreateANewWorldDir |
| 15:18 |
jas_ |
minetest --server --worldname thisWillNot |
| 15:18 |
IhrFussel |
Last I checked --worldname doesn't create a new world..one sec |
| 15:18 |
jas_ |
`thisWillNot' has to exist for --worldname, but not for --world. |
| 15:18 |
jas_ |
right, we're in agreement. |
| 15:19 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: I just confirmed it works... When creating this issue. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6775 |
| 15:19 |
IhrFussel |
Megaf, World 'blah' not available. Available worlds: |
| 15:19 |
Megaf |
Amazing how Minetest is consistent.... |
| 15:19 |
jas_ |
--worldname needs an already existent world. --world features `list' argument, as well as ability to create new worlds |
| 15:19 |
jas_ |
(and new civilizations.) |
| 15:20 |
IhrFussel |
I use 0.4.16 before the breakage on this PC |
| 15:20 |
Megaf |
well, I just created world Test with --worldname... |
| 15:21 |
IhrFussel |
Megaf, post the exact command options |
| 15:21 |
Megaf |
man, it's in the issue I just told ya |
| 15:21 |
Megaf |
minetest Platinum:/dev/shm/MinetestServer$ bin/minetestserver --worldname test --gameid minimal --terminal |
| 15:21 |
Megaf |
full command ^ |
| 15:21 |
Megaf |
ah |
| 15:21 |
Megaf |
and |
| 15:22 |
Megaf |
2017-12-12 15:09:34: [Main]: World 'test' not available. Available worlds: |
| 15:22 |
Megaf |
2017-12-12 15:09:34: [Main]: world '/dev/shm/MinetestServer/bin/../worlds/world' |
| 15:22 |
Megaf |
so when telling it to make world test it created world called world |
| 15:22 |
Megaf |
brilliant... |
| 15:22 |
Megaf |
so you think you are using a clean world for your tests and you are just destroying your current world |
| 15:22 |
Megaf |
Sorry IhrFussel jas_ |
| 15:23 |
IhrFussel |
If you use --world it will simply take the first existent world |
| 15:23 |
IhrFussel |
--wordname* |
| 15:23 |
IhrFussel |
worldname** |
| 15:25 |
IhrFussel |
In my case it uses the world "new" cause that's the one that actually exists right now |
| 15:37 |
jas_ |
maybe deprecate --worldname, since --world too loads pre-existing worlds. |
| 15:56 |
IhrFussel |
world requires a path, it's not the same |
| 15:56 |
rubenwardy |
Megaf, yep |
| 15:56 |
rubenwardy |
that annoys me too |
| 15:56 |
rubenwardy |
is there an issue? |
| 15:57 |
Megaf |
for the worldname? I dont think so |
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| 16:00 |
jas_ |
https://i.imgur.com/E0wQTlh.png |
| 16:00 |
jas_ |
^ in 0.5.0-dev, --world creates new worlds |
| 16:01 |
jas_ |
both --worldname and --world require an argument |
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| 16:15 |
rubenwardy |
Megaf: try grantme all |
| 16:41 |
benrob0329 |
We have a grantme command? |
| 16:41 |
Raven262 |
Oh no, don't tell me you didn't know. |
| 16:41 |
Mr_Pardison |
yes..... |
| 16:41 |
* Mr_Pardison |
gasps in shock |
| 16:42 |
benrob0329 |
I dont do much server-admining |
| 16:42 |
benrob0329 |
But yeah thats handy |
| 16:42 |
jas_ |
and i argued that it shouldn't be, that /grant should assume the invoker is the recipient if there is no given argument! laawl |
| 16:43 |
benrob0329 |
Same with /give |
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| 16:46 |
Raven262 |
Oh really? Are we now INVOKING commands? Cause that sounds quite cool. |
| 16:47 |
Raven262 |
I'm so using this word from now on. |
| 16:47 |
lisac |
https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/dota2_gamepedia/e/e3/Invo_spawn_03.mp3 |
| 16:47 |
jas_ |
issuer |
| 16:47 |
Mr_Pardison |
Krock: quack! |
| 16:47 |
Krock |
GLORIOUS |
| 16:48 |
Raven262 |
What? |
| 16:48 |
jas_ |
the issuer of the command ought to be assumed the recipient if no play named <priv> exists, else issuer must specify recipient. |
| 16:48 |
Krock |
the LAME mp3 |
| 16:48 |
lisac |
I just figured, it's the only time Invoker says 'Invoke ...' |
| 16:48 |
Krock |
Mr_Pardison: quack! |
| 16:48 |
jas_ |
evoke |
| 16:49 |
jas_ |
that is a funny work. raven i like your screenshots, looks like a good game : ) |
| 16:49 |
jas_ |
funny word* |
| 16:49 |
jas_ |
(g'night #minetest-hub) |
| 16:53 |
Raven262 |
jas_, It is still in development, but thanks :) |
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| 17:21 |
benrob0329 |
Random thought: Minetest is an engine, and Minetest Game is the tech demo |
| 17:22 |
benrob0329 |
MTG is pretty fleshed out gameplay wise when it comes to tech demos, but pretty lacking on the tech demo part (particles? Entities? Meshes?) |
| 17:23 |
Raven262 |
Cause those cause lag, and devs don't want people to know that part. |
| 17:23 |
benrob0329 |
Well coded entities and meshes don't cause lag |
| 17:24 |
benrob0329 |
Particles are fine in small amounts |
| 17:24 |
Raven262 |
Probably, I see people say that a lot actually. But meshes and entities are far from smooth. |
| 17:25 |
benrob0329 |
Oh meshes are fine |
| 17:25 |
benrob0329 |
I use then all the time |
| 17:25 |
benrob0329 |
Far more efficient than node boxes polygon wise |
| 17:25 |
benrob0329 |
Its the animations that are usually lacking |
| 17:26 |
Raven262 |
Really? I might switch to meshes then. |
| 17:26 |
Raven262 |
I thought nodeboxes give better performance. |
| 17:26 |
benrob0329 |
I should say, if you dont make them like you make nodeboxes :-) |
| 17:26 |
Raven262 |
What do you mean? |
| 17:27 |
benrob0329 |
The detailed steam locomotive from the advanced trains mod is an excellent example of what not to do |
| 17:27 |
benrob0329 |
Everything is its own object, its literally a bunch of boxes rather than a modeled mesh |
| 17:29 |
benrob0329 |
A good model is generally 1 object, with as few hidden faces and extra vertices as possible |
| 17:29 |
Raven262 |
I don't have too much of experience with making models, blender is quite complicated. |
| 17:29 |
Raven262 |
But i think i know what you mean. |
| 17:29 |
benrob0329 |
Aka combining faces when possible, and not making everything a bunch of boxes |
| 17:37 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: it says I dont have permission |
| 17:38 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: chat and consoel were merged not very long ago |
| 17:38 |
Megaf |
console* |
| 17:38 |
rubenwardy |
this won't be related |
| 17:39 |
rubenwardy |
in-game console is not n-curses |
| 17:39 |
Megaf |
well, since server terminal is just a chat it doesnt have any real power |
| 17:39 |
rubenwardy |
recently admin privileges were bastardised |
| 17:39 |
Megaf |
hence requiring you to be admin and with privs |
| 17:39 |
rubenwardy |
because instead of fixing the creative priv, the auth handler was changed so that admins don't get all privileges |
| 17:40 |
rubenwardy |
which is why I asked to try /grantme all |
| 17:40 |
rubenwardy |
hmmm |
| 17:40 |
Megaf |
why wouldnt admin have all privs? |
| 17:40 |
rubenwardy |
the creative privilege is broken |
| 17:41 |
rubenwardy |
it doesn't give you the right to use creative |
| 17:41 |
rubenwardy |
but makes you in creative mode |
| 17:41 |
Megaf |
never did |
| 17:41 |
rubenwardy |
which you don't want the admin to do |
| 17:41 |
rubenwardy |
the creative priv is new in 0.4.16 |
| 17:41 |
Mr-Pardison |
because sometimes an admin doesn't feel like admining and has another admin take over for them? |
| 17:41 |
rubenwardy |
Mr-Pardison: irrelavent |
| 17:41 |
rubenwardy |
you can just change the name setting |
| 17:41 |
rubenwardy |
or have some fake admin account |
| 17:42 |
rubenwardy |
say name = admin |
| 17:42 |
rubenwardy |
which may be shared |
| 17:42 |
rubenwardy |
I know multiple servers do that |
| 17:42 |
Mr-Pardison |
I'm just bored and my hands are getting cold. |
| 17:42 |
rubenwardy |
:D |
| 17:42 |
rubenwardy |
I do that on CTF, so I don't play using an account with all privs |
| 17:43 |
Mr-Pardison |
that's what $hara does on RC. has whoareyou being admin. |
| 17:44 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 17:44 |
rubenwardy |
actually no |
| 17:44 |
rubenwardy |
there's another account which name points to which isn't whoareyou |
| 17:44 |
rubenwardy |
I better not say any more :D |
| 17:46 |
Mr-Pardison |
I opened a can of worms then you go and shut it. |
| 17:46 |
Shara |
>.> |
| 17:46 |
Mr-Pardison |
:/ |
| 17:46 |
Shara |
Feel free to run the /admin command on RC as many times as you like. |
| 17:46 |
rubenwardy |
CTF too |
| 17:47 |
* Mr-Pardison |
sighs |
| 17:48 |
Shara |
:) |
| 18:01 |
Megaf |
jas_: rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6555#issuecomment-351133580 |
| 18:02 |
rubenwardy |
Megaf: that PR is about listing available worlds with different options |
| 18:03 |
Megaf |
Yep, I don't think we need even more changes and things added to world*. It's already too complicated and not working well |
| 18:03 |
rubenwardy |
I don't like that PR as it uses "list" as a parameter, which could be a worldname |
| 18:03 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 18:04 |
Megaf |
the whole --world* should be rewritten instead of adapted |
| 18:04 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
| 18:06 |
rubenwardy |
I'd prefer it to be more command based |
| 18:06 |
rubenwardy |
so |
| 18:06 |
rubenwardy |
minetest server --world foobar --name admin --config ~/minetest.conf |
| 18:07 |
Megaf |
s/" "/"" |
| 18:07 |
Megaf |
minetestserver* |
| 18:07 |
rubenwardy |
minetest client --address 192.168.0.12 --port 30001 --name user --password bob |
| 18:07 |
rubenwardy |
nope |
| 18:08 |
rubenwardy |
like git |
| 18:08 |
Megaf |
the common thing in games is having too different binaries |
| 18:08 |
Megaf |
one for server and one for client, with different names |
| 18:08 |
rubenwardy |
also, tonnes of unit tests! |
| 18:09 |
Megaf |
and benchmarking, we need benchmarking |
| 18:09 |
rubenwardy |
not for the CLI :P |
| 18:09 |
rubenwardy |
generally we need unit tests and benchmarking |
| 18:10 |
rubenwardy |
but I was talking about the CLI specifically |
| 18:10 |
Megaf |
benchmarking for the server |
| 18:13 |
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| 18:13 |
Megaf |
Hey Lukc |
| 18:13 |
Megaf |
hm |
| 18:13 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: voice Lukc please |
| 18:14 |
Megaf |
Lukc: you are not identified |
| 18:14 |
Megaf |
Thanks |
| 18:15 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy, Lukc: So, benrob0329 and me we are working on a server benchmarking mod. Well, mostly he is working and I'm saying what I'd like it to have. |
| 18:15 |
Megaf |
https://github.com/benrob0329/benchmark |
| 18:15 |
rubenwardy |
nice |
| 18:15 |
rubenwardy |
also, lol |
| 18:15 |
rubenwardy |
so demanding |
| 18:15 |
Megaf |
So far we have a Pi benchmark to test lua performance |
| 18:15 |
rubenwardy |
:D |
| 18:15 |
rubenwardy |
oh right |
| 18:15 |
Megaf |
now we can begin to compare Lua vs LuaJIT of example |
| 18:16 |
Megaf |
s/of/for |
| 18:16 |
Megaf |
But we need so much more |
| 18:16 |
rubenwardy |
that's not what I thought you meant by benchmarking |
| 18:16 |
Megaf |
benchmarking I mean testing performance |
| 18:16 |
rubenwardy |
yes, but for Lua |
| 18:16 |
Megaf |
how fast it performs a task |
| 18:16 |
rubenwardy |
I thought you meant for Minetest |
| 18:16 |
Megaf |
Yep, I do want it for Minetest |
| 18:16 |
Megaf |
server that is |
| 18:17 |
Megaf |
That's intially for benchmarking minetestserver |
| 18:17 |
Megaf |
so we can test how CPUs compare, how different compiler flags affect the server performance and so on |
| 18:18 |
rubenwardy |
heh |
| 18:18 |
rubenwardy |
you'd need to measure things like packets, queues, and sleep time whilst increasing the number of players, all of which are moving randomly |
| 18:19 |
rubenwardy |
damn it |
| 18:19 |
rubenwardy |
there's so much I'd like to do, but no time |
| 18:20 |
Fixer |
Megaf: http://luajit.org/performance_x86.html |
| 18:20 |
Megaf |
Right now all I want are some synthetic tests so I can see how different build flags, sqlite options and luajit vs lua affects the performance. |
| 18:21 |
Megaf |
"Please turn on JavaScript and reload this page to see the interactive chart." |
| 18:21 |
Megaf |
How about no? |
| 18:21 |
rubenwardy |
ha |
| 18:22 |
Megaf |
I have cookies and javascript disabled by default for all website |
| 18:37 |
Mr-Pardison |
cookies! |
| 18:37 |
Mr-Pardison |
nom nom nom. |
| 18:39 |
Lukc |
Megaf, looking forward to the published results. :p |
| 18:49 |
Megaf |
so the benchmark function is totally single thread and the whole server gets stuck while its running |
| 18:49 |
Megaf |
imagine a 128 thread server getting totally frozen because a single missbehaving mod |
| 18:49 |
Megaf |
or because a blinky plant decided to act weird |
| 18:50 |
Megaf |
very robust :P |
| 18:57 |
Megaf |
I'm beginning to getting involved in too many projects |
| 18:57 |
Megaf |
Minetest, OSGrid, PureDarwin, ClearLinux, Debian, OpenMandriva, Haiku... |
| 18:57 |
rubenwardy |
wow |
| 18:57 |
Megaf |
Thankfully I'm no developer in any of those |
| 18:57 |
rubenwardy |
I'm involved in two many projects |
| 18:58 |
rubenwardy |
just in Minetest |
| 19:06 |
benrob0329 |
rubenwardy: Minetest and Lua :P |
| 19:06 |
rubenwardy |
well, I've not contributed to Lua |
| 19:07 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: I started working on the mapgen benchmark last night, but it doesnt quite work yet |
| 19:07 |
benrob0329 |
I think my sleep function slows things down a little too much (no way to not constantly probe os.time) |
| 19:08 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: my problem with magen work is that it can't safely be ran on a production server, just clean server. Which is totally fine by me |
| 19:08 |
benrob0329 |
So I'll have to rewrite things using minetest.after |
| 19:08 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: its done at 30000,0,30000 |
| 19:08 |
benrob0329 |
Should be fine for most servers |
| 19:09 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: I don't care. It changes a production map |
| 19:09 |
Megaf |
This is not a critic to you, just the idea |
| 19:09 |
Megaf |
I don't like changing things in a production map just for benchmarks sake |
| 19:09 |
Megaf |
besides, in MegafServer we have things built up to 32K, yes sir. |
| 19:11 |
benrob0329 |
Fair enough |
| 19:11 |
Megaf |
never underestimate a player |
| 19:12 |
Megaf |
I had people dig from the surface down to spawn |
| 19:12 |
Mr-Pardison |
.... |
| 19:12 |
Megaf |
people walk to the end of the world |
| 19:12 |
Mr-Pardison |
I plan on doing that on DL. |
| 19:12 |
Mr-Pardison |
westward ho! |
| 19:12 |
benrob0329 |
Rock on the keyboard |
| 19:13 |
Mr-Pardison |
no. |
| 19:13 |
benrob0329 |
Its not too hard to survive off of the environment in most servers |
| 19:13 |
Mr-Pardison |
just make sure u have the proper resources and u should be fine. |
| 19:14 |
Mr-Pardison |
Once I head west, east is the only other direction that hasn't been completely explored on DL. |
| 19:14 |
benrob0329 |
DL == Dark Lands I assume? |
| 19:15 |
Mr-Pardison |
yup |
| 19:16 |
Megaf |
$ cat ~/.bash_history | grep qemu |
| 19:16 |
Megaf |
Binary file (standard input) matches |
| 19:16 |
Megaf |
$ grep qemu ../.bash_history |
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Megaf |
Binary file ../.bash_history matches |
| 19:16 |
Megaf |
what am I doing wrong? |
| 19:16 |
benrob0329 |
I gotta do a cinematic of it one if these days |
| 19:17 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: put qemu in quotes |
| 19:17 |
Megaf |
same |
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| 19:17 |
benrob0329 |
Is bash_history text, |
| 19:17 |
benrob0329 |
Like, can you open it normally? |
| 19:19 |
Megaf |
file for some reason is telling that is data |
| 19:19 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: by the way, my Raspberry 2 is ## FASTER ## than the Atom in your Lua benchmark! |
| 19:19 |
Megaf |
take that all minetest devs that laughed at me and blamed my hardware for poor performance |
| 19:19 |
benrob0329 |
Wow |
| 19:20 |
Megaf |
Raspberry Pi 2. 201.74693 |
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Megaf |
Atom Nsomething 207.17363 |
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Megaf |
xP |
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Megaf |
clock my clock is slower tho |
| 19:20 |
Megaf |
s/my/byu |
| 19:21 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: and in the Raspberry Pi it didnt show pi result, 3.14, just time |
| 19:21 |
Megaf |
http://ftp.acc.umu.se/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 19:21 |
Megaf |
ops |
| 19:21 |
Megaf |
Issued command: /benchmark |
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Megaf |
201.74693 |
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Megaf |
Done. |
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Megaf |
there & |
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| 19:33 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: I removed the printing of pi |
| 19:33 |
benrob0329 |
didn't think it was important for the benchmark |
| 19:33 |
Megaf |
ok |
| 19:34 |
Megaf |
It should say, Starting "benchmark type" |
| 19:34 |
benrob0329 |
It will, I have some changes in local repo |
| 19:35 |
benrob0329 |
I can remove the mapgen for now until I finish that, and push thougb |
| 19:39 |
Fixer |
https://www.atariarchives.org/bcc1/showpage.php?page=61 |
| 19:41 |
Mr_Pardison |
Fixer: seems interesting. |
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benrob0329 |
Megaf: pushed |
| 19:49 |
benrob0329 |
no mapgen benchmark yet though |
| 19:50 |
Megaf |
no worries |
| 19:50 |
benrob0329 |
will try to work on that tonight |
| 19:50 |
Megaf |
And thank you |
| 19:50 |
benrob0329 |
NP, happy to help :-) |
| 19:51 |
Fixer |
https://www.atariarchives.org/bcc1/pages/page120.gif |
| 19:53 |
Krock |
meow |
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Mr_Pardison |
Mew |
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ThomasMonroe |
I found something interesting about OC, christfollower.me I went there on Tor, try to be safe everyone |
| 19:54 |
ThomasMonroe |
bbl i gtg for a bit |
| 19:56 |
benrob0329 |
Anyone want to archive it, I dont want to give my IP away |
| 20:16 |
rubenwardy |
yup |
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| 20:39 |
Megaf |
Shall we stop using off please? |
| 20:39 |
Megaf |
most of the time we are off topic anyway |
| 20:39 |
Megaf |
it would be better using [On] when talking about Minetest |
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Megaf |
Shara: Fixer: comments? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6775 |
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Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/TejXiAo.png loool |
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IhrFussel |
If you guys want you can give benrob0329 his OP status back now to see if it still happens (whatever that was that kicked me twice) |
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| 20:55 |
benrob0329 |
IhrFussel: what happened it that you got banned somehow on the Matrix side of things, which is a softban apparently |
| 20:55 |
benrob0329 |
I dont know why, but I've logged out all devices on my account and changed my password just in case |
| 20:55 |
benrob0329 |
Along with my Nickserv password |
| 20:57 |
IhrFussel |
So my IP was on some blacklist? Or just banned on your account? |
| 20:59 |
Fixer |
omg |
| 21:00 |
Fixer |
JT2 has genocide pit, with hundreds of bones, rip mobile players |
| 21:02 |
Fixer |
all of them had basic starter kit |
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benrob0329 |
IhrFussel: banned from the Matrix bridge, which acts through my account because it thought I had banned you (which as far as it knows I probably did) |
| 21:10 |
Fixer |
100 bones collected |
| 21:21 |
Megaf |
why the heck ln -s vz/ test works and ln -s vz/ /vz doesn't? |
| 21:21 |
Megaf |
# ls /vz |
| 21:21 |
Megaf |
ls: cannot access '/vz': Too many levels of symbolic links |
| 21:25 |
sofar |
what is `pwd -P` when you issue `ln -s vz/ /vz` ? |
| 21:26 |
sofar |
location is relevant |
| 21:26 |
Megaf |
# pwd -P |
| 21:26 |
Megaf |
/media/reglnx/Megaf Server |
| 21:26 |
Megaf |
rootAluminium:/media/reglnx/Megaf Server# ls |
| 21:26 |
Megaf |
vz |
| 21:27 |
Megaf |
sofar: ^ |
| 21:29 |
sofar |
does /vz exist? |
| 21:29 |
Fixer |
200bones, gave up |
| 21:29 |
Megaf |
sofar: nope |
| 21:30 |
sofar |
I just said this in chat somewher: |
| 21:30 |
sofar |
<sofar> ado: you seem unaware of social conventions on this planet |
| 21:30 |
sofar |
yeah |
| 21:30 |
sofar |
that happened... |
| 21:30 |
Megaf |
sofar: fixed. ln -s vz/ / |
| 21:30 |
Megaf |
that works for some reason |
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| 21:31 |
sofar |
ln can be weird like that, if the target is a folder |
| 21:31 |
sofar |
and with relative paths |
| 21:31 |
Megaf |
sofar: my landlord told me. "You have terrible social skills" |
| 21:31 |
Megaf |
sofar: I totally get you |
| 21:32 |
Megaf |
ls /vz |
| 21:32 |
Megaf |
ls: cannot access '/vz': Too many levels of symbolic links |
| 21:32 |
Megaf |
nevermind |
| 21:32 |
Megaf |
give up |
| 21:32 |
Megaf |
Megaf Server will stay down |
| 21:34 |
Megaf |
Not really. but yeah |
| 21:34 |
Megaf |
I'd like to know how do create symlinks |
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| 21:55 |
Megaf |
sofar: so unfortunately I won't be able to test Clear Linux. |
| 21:56 |
sofar |
I've followed it, yes |
| 21:56 |
sofar |
heh, you gave it a more than fair shot, lol |
| 22:18 |
Fixer |
JUST ONE MORE YEAR AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY |
| 22:19 |
Fixer |
pcem v13 released O_O |
| 22:20 |
Fixer |
with network support |
| 22:23 |
rubenwardy |
? |
| 22:23 |
rubenwardy |
oh nice |
| 22:23 |
rubenwardy |
can play really old gam |
| 22:32 |
Fixer |
what a great time https://medium.com/4iqdelvedeep/1-4-billion-clear-text-credentials-discovered-in-a-single-database-3131d0a1ae14 |
| 22:33 |
rubenwardy |
relevant: https://www.troyhunt.com/heres-how-i-verify-data-breaches/ |
| 22:33 |
rubenwardy |
from the author of HaveIBeenPwned.com |
| 22:33 |
rubenwardy |
spoiler alert: he doesn't test passwords |
| 22:33 |
rubenwardy |
as it's immoral |
| 22:33 |
rubenwardy |
and also illegal |
| 22:34 |
rubenwardy |
unauthorised access to a computer |
| 22:35 |
rubenwardy |
heh, fake news |
| 22:35 |
rubenwardy |
one of the top passwords looks like it's "myspace"# |
| 22:38 |
Fixer |
i hope nobody reuses passwords, right? (right? (right?)) |
| 22:41 |
* rubenwardy |
doesn't |
| 22:41 |
Fixer |
https://www.reddit.com/r/pwned/comments/7hhqfo/combination_of_many_breaches/ o_O |
| 22:42 |
rubenwardy |
the only passwords I reuse is due the the uni requiring it |
| 22:42 |
rubenwardy |
as you're required to have the same password for their linux, windows, and max |
| 22:42 |
rubenwardy |
their web intranet |
| 22:42 |
rubenwardy |
and 365 |
| 22:47 |
Megaf |
rsync -az --progress * --compress-level=9 minetestns335210.ip-5-196-88.eu:/home/minetest/ |
| 22:47 |
Megaf |
so Megaf Server will be coming back |
| 22:48 |
Megaf |
Sokomine: ^ |
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Megaf |
MegafServer/worlds/world/map.sqlite |
| 22:55 |
Megaf |
927,236,096 20% 2.51MB/s 0:23:57 |
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| 23:57 |
Fixer |
holy ---- |
| 23:57 |
Fixer |
found minetest in password |
| 23:58 |
Fixer |
someone used minetest as a password, not good |
