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paramat |
sofar your github avatar (it's a good one too) is here https://github.com/identicons/sofar.png if you feel like resetting it. i actually find your blank white avatar disturbing oddly enough =D |
| 04:15 |
VanessaE |
wow, been quiet in here all evening huh |
| 04:55 |
sofar |
shhh ;) |
| 05:11 |
VanessaE |
sofar: did you see the link I posted? |
| 05:12 |
sofar |
lol, nice |
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VanessaE |
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| 10:04 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 10:07 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 10:08 |
tenplus1 |
hi Vanessa, how's things ? |
| 10:10 |
VanessaE |
things are okay |
| 10:10 |
tenplus1 |
good to hear |
| 10:11 |
tenplus1 |
I have 7 crows outside making it look like a stephen king movie |
| 10:11 |
VanessaE |
here's something to play around with :) https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2640546 |
| 10:11 |
tenplus1 |
aww, das cute... executive toy exclusive :) |
| 10:11 |
VanessaE |
bahahaha |
| 10:12 |
* tenplus1 |
builds a pump going from coffee cup to mouth..... oh so lazy |
| 10:12 |
VanessaE |
hah |
| 10:12 |
tenplus1 |
*boss walks in* |
| 10:13 |
tenplus1 |
I saw the new TubeLib mod, any plans on compatibility ? |
| 10:14 |
tenplus1 |
or have you cornered that market already :) |
| 10:14 |
VanessaE |
tubelib? is that the flow/transfer library deltasquared is working on? (if so, he's doing it with Pipeworks in mind, in fact) |
| 10:15 |
tenplus1 |
sweet, glad to hear :) |
| 10:15 |
tenplus1 |
am liking how many new machine mods are appearing |
| 10:16 |
VanessaE |
in theory technic will eventually use it also, in lieu of its current, buggy power transfer code |
| 10:18 |
tenplus1 |
that'd be handy, technic was always a nice mod to have but glitchy as hell |
| 10:19 |
VanessaE |
aside from not being buggy :) this new code he's working on will also be way faster, shouldn't induce any real lag anymore on big networks |
| 10:19 |
tenplus1 |
o.O noice! |
| 10:20 |
VanessaE |
indeed :) |
| 10:21 |
tenplus1 |
ManElevation released a fork of my own Protector Redo with different sized protection area blocks... was all excited until I saw it didn't work at all... |
| 10:22 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 10:22 |
tenplus1 |
jsut different coloured protectors and nothing more.... wah! |
| 10:23 |
VanessaE |
I've been meaning to expand the protector blocks mod on my servers to offer a few different sizes also |
| 10:23 |
tenplus1 |
it's a great idea in theory, but the logistics and programming all seem to lag when done :( |
| 10:24 |
tenplus1 |
for multi-sized protected areas, the AREAS mod or Krock's protector mod is good for area-block protection |
| 10:24 |
tenplus1 |
for simple static sized areas (configurable in .conf) then prot redo is easy enough :) but am gonna rewrite soon for 0.50 |
| 10:25 |
VanessaE |
well the one my servers use (cheapie's mod) rely on areas as the backend anyway |
| 10:25 |
VanessaE |
relies* |
| 10:25 |
tenplus1 |
Cheapie was original Protector block that Zeg9 took over and then I rewrote into Redo... my mod should be backwards compatible with all :D |
| 10:26 |
VanessaE |
I thought cheapie wrote his from scratch |
| 10:26 |
tenplus1 |
he did... he was the originator :) |
| 10:26 |
VanessaE |
er... I don't see how that's possible |
| 10:26 |
VanessaE |
maybe you mean glomie? |
| 10:27 |
VanessaE |
afaik THAT was the original protector blockl |
| 10:27 |
tenplus1 |
ooh, have I got the names mixed up o.O |
| 10:27 |
VanessaE |
-l |
| 10:27 |
tenplus1 |
my bad |
| 10:27 |
VanessaE |
you suck. ;) |
| 10:27 |
tenplus1 |
it's the 'ie that threw me |
| 10:27 |
tenplus1 |
ahahahahahah |
| 10:27 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, is glomie... hahahaha |
| 10:28 |
VanessaE |
so, yeah. :) |
| 10:29 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 10:29 |
VanessaE |
this one was from scratch afaik, and is not laggy at all since areas mod does the actual protecting |
| 10:29 |
VanessaE |
expanding it to multiple sizes ought to be fairly simple, just haven't gotten around to it |
| 10:29 |
tenplus1 |
I like the areas mod but the fact it saves to a file which an be corrupted put me off |
| 10:30 |
VanessaE |
how else would you store the protection data? |
| 10:30 |
VanessaE |
(short of mod storage?) |
| 10:31 |
tenplus1 |
exactly... anything that relies heavy on file usage kinda puts me off... |
| 10:31 |
tenplus1 |
that's why a simple block placement took over :) |
| 10:31 |
tenplus1 |
good for noobs, which I have many on server... ahaha |
| 10:32 |
VanessaE |
I wouldn't worry about it. if the protection database could become corrupt, then so could the map file, the players' files, auth.txt, etc etc etc |
| 10:32 |
VanessaE |
(well, /etc too :P ) |
| 10:32 |
tenplus1 |
I wonder if a variant of sauth will be placed in-game to reaplace that file : |
| 10:32 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs |
| 10:33 |
VanessaE |
but I rather prefer flat files. you can't gred and sed on a database. |
| 10:33 |
VanessaE |
grep* |
| 10:33 |
tenplus1 |
very handy when flat :) |
| 10:34 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 10:35 |
tenplus1 |
do you have any servers using 0.5.0 yet ? |
| 10:35 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
| 10:35 |
VanessaE |
and I don't plan to. |
| 10:35 |
tenplus1 |
problems ? |
| 10:36 |
VanessaE |
I don't want to have to argue with the "breaks stuff" nature that 0.5.x is supposed to bring with it |
| 10:36 |
tenplus1 |
the player model is the biggest change... am still using 0.4.16 so I can update and maintain mods |
| 10:36 |
VanessaE |
besides, I don't track git anymore, haven't since 0.4.15. I wait for new releases, unless there's some bad bug that demands me to update. |
| 10:37 |
tenplus1 |
yeah... I do check git update code to see if anything handy is making an appearance then shoe-horn it into current game |
| 10:40 |
tenplus1 |
once 0.5.0 is a stable release and mods can easily be ported over then I'll update and ask players to maybe do same... |
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| 10:44 |
tenplus1 |
hi CWz |
| 10:48 |
VanessaE |
hey CWz |
| 10:48 |
CWz |
Hey tenplus1, Hey VanessaE |
| 10:48 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
| 10:49 |
VanessaE |
CWz: <spam> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2640546 </spam> |
| 10:49 |
tenplus1 |
ehe |
| 10:50 |
CWz |
cool |
| 10:50 |
CWz |
tenplus1, make your monster mobs |
| 10:50 |
CWz |
i want a dongeon master plushy |
| 10:51 |
tenplus1 |
lol, well I can sew... ehehe |
| 10:52 |
CWz |
i wonder what cool exiting feature will 0.5 bring |
| 10:52 |
tenplus1 |
it has binoculars and map items added, player model changed and many fixes... |
| 10:52 |
tenplus1 |
it just breaks current mods in certain ways tho |
| 10:54 |
CWz |
what about multiworld and inter-server jumping |
| 10:54 |
tenplus1 |
that's the issue... once you have 0.5.0 you can no longer go onto 0.4.16 servers |
| 10:54 |
tenplus1 |
doesnt work |
| 10:54 |
tenplus1 |
that's why 0.5.0 release has to be stable and compatible so that everyone can update at once and still play on all servers |
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| 11:04 |
tenplus1 |
hi megaf |
| 11:13 |
ImNotHere |
Hi 11 |
| 11:14 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 11:16 |
ImNotHere |
My Megaf nick is now owned my IRCCloud :P |
| 11:16 |
tenplus1 |
it has been nicked :P |
| 11:16 |
ImNotHere |
I think I just destroyed my Android |
| 11:16 |
ImNotHere |
software wise |
| 11:17 |
tenplus1 |
what ya do ? |
| 11:17 |
ImNotHere |
it's rebooting, |
| 11:17 |
ImNotHere |
hopefully it will work |
| 11:17 |
ImNotHere |
oh, back to life, thanks God |
| 11:17 |
ImNotHere |
tenplus1, just did this http://www.supersu.com/gettingstarted#recovery |
| 11:17 |
tenplus1 |
heh... was gonna add the android 7.0 update files to my sd card and do an upgrade to my lenovo B... |
| 11:18 |
ImNotHere |
ok, now moment of truth, lets try adb shell su |
| 11:18 |
tenplus1 |
<fingers crossed> |
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| 11:19 |
ImNotHere |
shell smi:/ $ su |
| 11:19 |
ImNotHere |
well |
| 11:19 |
tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
| 11:19 |
ImNotHere |
it just opened a new line |
| 11:19 |
ImNotHere |
nothing happening |
| 11:19 |
tenplus1 |
aw |
| 11:19 |
ImNotHere |
shellsmi:/ $ su |
| 11:19 |
ImNotHere |
^C^C^C |
| 11:19 |
ImNotHere |
Before it was command not found, I think it's some progress tho |
| 11:20 |
tenplus1 |
getting there slow but sure |
| 11:20 |
ImNotHere |
killall su worked |
| 11:20 |
ImNotHere |
shellsmi:/ $ su |
| 11:20 |
ImNotHere |
rootsmi:/ # |
| 11:20 |
tenplus1 |
guy on youtube has full linix distro running on his samsung when docked, looks pretty awesome |
| 11:20 |
ImNotHere |
we have root!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 11:20 |
tenplus1 |
nice one dude |
| 11:20 |
ImNotHere |
I HAVE ANDROID ROOT!!! |
| 11:21 |
ImNotHere |
hah |
| 11:21 |
ImNotHere |
I got the power! |
| 11:21 |
tenplus1 |
ehehehe |
| 11:21 |
ImNotHere |
Now I have my very own micro Linux computer |
| 11:21 |
tenplus1 |
can disable all the fluff that comes with your phone |
| 11:22 |
Raven262 |
Hi ten |
| 11:22 |
tenplus1 |
hi raven :P |
| 11:22 |
ImNotHere |
that my phones CPU http://paste.debian.net/plain/995657 |
| 11:23 |
tenplus1 |
your phone is running intel atom ? wow... |
| 11:23 |
tenplus1 |
faster than my net-top pc's atom at 1.8 |
| 11:23 |
ImNotHere |
that's the CPU https://ark.intel.com/products/70097/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z2480-512K-Cache-up-to-2_00-GHz |
| 11:23 |
ImNotHere |
no hardware virt tho |
| 11:26 |
tenplus1 |
soon it'll get to the point where home pc's will end up being your phone connected to dock for a desktop or a bigger screen for tablet/laptop |
| 11:26 |
ImNotHere |
Motorola did that several years ago |
| 11:27 |
tenplus1 |
just needs a specific time and it'll take off so that everyone has it |
| 11:29 |
ImNotHere |
https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Xyboard-Premium-Docking-Sta |
| 11:29 |
tenplus1 |
heh... would save a fortune on phone repairs having switchable and dockable screens |
| 11:30 |
ImNotHere |
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3081377/android/hands-on-the-onecompute-moto-mod-could-turn-your-android-phone-into-your-pc.html |
| 11:30 |
ImNotHere |
Thats the current version of it |
| 11:30 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 11:33 |
ImNotHere |
this is the first version, back in 2011 https://www.pcmag.com/feature/260402/motorola-atrix-4g-at-t/2 |
| 11:33 |
ImNotHere |
basically turns your phone into a laptop |
| 11:34 |
tenplus1 |
yaaaay! I want that |
| 11:36 |
ImNotHere |
uname -a |
| 11:36 |
ImNotHere |
Linux localhost 3.0.34+ #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Sep 26 11:18:30 CDT 2014 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 11:36 |
ImNotHere |
I wonder if i can put normal Linux kernel there |
| 11:36 |
tenplus1 |
wouldnt be surprised... so long as all devices are detected ok |
| 11:39 |
tenplus1 |
I wondwer how well it would run the 4.14 kernel |
| 11:48 |
tenplus1 |
back in a bit |
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IhrFussel |
I installed postgresql-10 now on my server, created a user and a database.. does that look right so far? https://pastebin.com/QrwyrvTG ... next I need to compile minetest with psql support (I think the flag is -DENABLE_POSTGRESQL=TRUE) |
| 13:12 |
IhrFussel |
Doing a safety backup now then it's time |
| 13:33 |
IhrFussel |
Could NOT find PostgreSQL (missing: PostgreSQL_TYPE_INCLUDE_DIR) (found version "10.1") |
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IhrFussel |
-- PostgreSQL not found! |
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IhrFussel |
Okay I give up on psql for now...also I found out that iotop goes up to 80% IO when I fly around on the map...not sure if that is normal |
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| 16:11 |
Fixer |
for example, recently someone made mod for mining in bulk with a tool, that was already done in MC 1.5.2 (Oct 2013) - veinminer (or probably even earlier) |
| 16:13 |
Fixer |
or that analog of drawer controller with awkward interface - that was must have, yet someone made it in 2017 only and it seems not much servers use it |
| 16:13 |
Shara |
Fixer: much more helpful to suggest specific things to add to MT though. |
| 16:13 |
Fixer |
veinminer analog is added |
| 16:14 |
Fixer |
storage interface (mt) is also big step forward |
| 16:15 |
Fixer |
storage drawers are already here (which is very noice, but not completely finished) |
| 16:15 |
Fixer |
drawers are awesome |
| 16:16 |
Fixer |
or that MC beta 1.7.3 server mod: economy with sign shops |
| 16:18 |
Shara |
I don't play, or even have, MC, so I have no way to help with attempts at duplicating ideas from it. |
| 16:19 |
Fixer |
you click on sign with left click - you buy X items, right click - sell X items, simple, written 6 fuckyears ago |
| 16:19 |
Shara |
So if hoping someone will attempt a mod based on any of this, it's just better to explain what you'd like to see. |
| 16:19 |
Fixer |
or that towny thing, yeah, it is somewhat too complicated and sucks in some moments, but it has neat ideas and so powerful |
| 16:19 |
Shara |
So a kind of general shop that buys sells... everything? Or specific things? Or what? |
| 16:19 |
Fixer |
Shara: Jordach knows ;) |
| 16:19 |
Shara |
buys/sells* |
| 16:20 |
Fixer |
Shara: yeah, you set up simple shop via signs, simple and easy |
| 16:20 |
Shara |
Jordach isn't the only mod writer who might make something is a clear idea is given :) |
| 16:20 |
Shara |
if a* |
| 16:20 |
Fixer |
Shara: he played modded mc a lot |
| 16:20 |
Fixer |
iirc |
| 16:20 |
Fixer |
and I watched modded lets plays a lot |
| 16:21 |
Shara |
And that's fine, but I'm just saying explain it so others could help if they have time as well. |
| 16:21 |
Fixer |
you just have not seen that awesomeness :( here we can expect technic/mesecons and well thats it :D |
| 16:22 |
Shara |
Shops you describe don't sound so impossible |
| 16:22 |
Fixer |
Refined Storage / Applied Energistics are insanely good mods we don't have even simple analogue |
| 16:22 |
Fixer |
octacian was about to write something like it |
| 16:22 |
Fixer |
iirc |
| 16:23 |
Fixer |
alchemy mods |
| 16:23 |
Fixer |
massive |
| 16:23 |
Fixer |
and windows users are stuck with OOMs anyway |
| 16:23 |
Shara |
Just Windows users? What do you mean? |
| 16:24 |
Fixer |
linux seems better, i can't even play dreambuilder on windows pretty much |
| 16:24 |
Jordach |
i casn run dreambuilder at 512HDX |
| 16:24 |
Jordach |
with VRAM to spare |
| 16:25 |
Shara |
I only know one mod that can OOM me on singleplayer in windows, and I've seen it bring down Linux based servers too. |
| 16:25 |
Fixer |
technic-worldgen :D |
| 16:25 |
Shara |
villages actually |
| 16:25 |
Fixer |
Jordach: it is not about textures |
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| 16:26 |
Shara |
unk had trouble with it on his server, so I did a lot of local testing as well. |
| 16:26 |
Fixer |
also, darkage has this world gen OOMs too sometimes |
| 16:27 |
Shara |
Red Cat hit an OOM on mesecons a couple of days back, and I still don't know why. |
| 16:27 |
Fixer |
this too |
| 16:27 |
Shara |
RC runs on Linux though |
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| 17:24 |
Fixer |
Krock: huh |
| 17:24 |
Krock |
Fixer, most downvoted reddit comment in its history |
| 17:25 |
Krock |
sauce: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/7cujsc/ |
| 17:26 |
Krock |
rubenwardy, everybody helps where they can ;) |
| 17:29 |
Fixer |
adjusted for EA? |
| 17:29 |
Krock |
Fixer, they blew the reddit downvote records multiple times |
| 17:30 |
Krock |
s/blew/made it on/ |
| 17:31 |
Fixer |
hmmm |
| 17:31 |
Fixer |
checked that comcast swastika is not in top page anymore, SAD! |
| 17:31 |
Fixer |
most hated companies of USA |
| 17:32 |
Fixer |
comcast probably has even more hate than EA |
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| 17:46 |
Fixer |
good times |
| 17:46 |
Fixer |
fuck monopolies |
| 17:46 |
Fixer |
and oligopolies too |
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| 18:00 |
sofar |
just got a new NUC6CAYH at work to test... under 300$ computer that runs MT like a pro |
| 18:00 |
sofar |
I even went overboard with an intel ssd in it, you can probably get it down to 200$ |
| 18:01 |
sofar |
*END SHAMELESS PAID ADVERTISMENT |
| 18:01 |
Mr_Pardison |
XD |
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| 18:02 |
Mr_Pardison |
looking at Intel's website, newegg has it starting at $129.96 USD |
| 18:03 |
Mr_Pardison |
afk lunch |
| 18:06 |
paramat |
0.5.0 breaks very little actually, there seems to be misunderstanding. just player model offset and player attach position to vehicles, both easily fixed |
| 18:07 |
sofar |
Mr_Pardison: yes, but that's just the box/cpu without ram/disk |
| 18:14 |
paramat |
Fixer i must ask, politely, please stop going on about what MC had years before MT (and using it to complain). it's irrelevant, irritating and excessively negative |
| 18:16 |
rubenwardy |
anyone know russian? How would you say "GLEB_R, please stop spamming that chat?" |
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| 18:18 |
sfan5 |
rubenwardy: gtranslate should allow you to convey that in an understandable way |
| 18:20 |
sofar |
Ñ‚Ð²Ð¾Ñ Ð¼Ð°Ñ‚ÑŒ была хомÑком, а твой отец пахнул койкой |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
sofar: you don't get NUCs for free? |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
:P |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
with i9s and the new GPUs that Intel are making with AMD |
| 18:20 |
sofar |
Calinou: to work with, yes |
| 18:21 |
sofar |
that particular product I have not seen |
| 18:21 |
sofar |
does it exist? |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
that's the joke |
| 18:21 |
sofar |
I get NUCs at work all the time |
| 18:22 |
IhrFussel |
My bash bot uses translate-shell ... that makes realtime translation very easy and automated |
| 18:22 |
sfan5 |
for everyones sanity: please don't implement automatic translation into chat |
| 18:23 |
sofar |
hehe |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
for everyone's health: please do not implement automatic translation into chat |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
I tried mass-translating that one, not that good :( |
| 18:24 |
sofar |
Calinou: I order about 20-40 NUCs a year at work for various purposes |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
omg, Latin is great for this |
| 18:24 |
sofar |
2 years back we built a 100-NUC cluster |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
everyones sake of health, and there is an automatic translation to implement up to chat |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
only 3 iterations |
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| 18:25 |
IhrFussel |
I'm planning to make the translation message opt-in |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
oh, Fedora 27 was released today by the way :) |
| 18:25 |
sofar |
clearlinux-19080 was released today |
| 18:25 |
sofar |
we'll release clearlinux-19090 this afternoon |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
I was looking up Fedora in class and saw that version 27 was released :P |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
no Docker image yet, apparently |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
(I'm using it with GitLab CI) |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
f26 already has GCC 7.2.0 anyway |
| 18:27 |
benrob0329 |
Calinou: and CUDA still only supports 25 |
| 18:29 |
IhrFussel |
Anyone a clue why cmake couldn't find psql? I had it installed and created a user and database ... but at compile time it said Could NOT find PostgreSQL (missing: PostgreSQL_TYPE_INCLUDE_DIR) (found version "10.1") -- PostgreSQL not found! |
| 18:29 |
sfan5 |
do you have dev headers installed? |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: hmm, why? |
| 18:30 |
IhrFussel |
sfan5, I had postgresql-10 and postgresql-server-dev-10 ... then I tried postgresql-server-dev-9.6 but same error |
| 18:31 |
sfan5 |
hmm idk then |
| 18:31 |
IhrFussel |
But it says it found version 10.1 so it was kinda there? |
| 18:32 |
IhrFussel |
And is 80% IO for emerge-0 thread OK? |
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| 18:34 |
IhrFussel |
Although I don't get how 400 KB can push IO to 80% if the HDD got a read/write speed of 80+ MB/s |
| 18:35 |
sofar |
it's probably io wait |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
thanks sofar |
| 18:35 |
IhrFussel |
What causes that? It even happens on a new map |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
weird though |
| 18:36 |
sofar |
thanks, for what? |
| 18:36 |
rubenwardy |
he said cyka then left |
| 18:36 |
rubenwardy |
just kidding, I actually checked the translation you put |
| 18:36 |
rubenwardy |
amazing |
| 18:36 |
sofar |
lmao |
| 18:36 |
sofar |
too bad it didn't entirely translate elderberries properly |
| 18:36 |
sofar |
vetchez la vache! |
| 18:38 |
* sofar |
throws more software on this Apollo Lake NUC |
| 18:39 |
sofar |
wonder if I could blender on it... |
| 18:39 |
Calinou |
what IGP does it have? |
| 18:40 |
sofar |
intel HD |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
how recent? |
| 18:40 |
sofar |
2016Q4 |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
Blender currently requires OpenGL 2.1, and soon will require OpenGL 3.3 |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
that should be fine (even if slow) |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
Blender doesn't support undersampling IIRC, though |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
so, if you have a large display resolution, it'll be very slow |
| 18:41 |
sofar |
minetest says 3.0 |
| 18:41 |
benrob0329 |
Calinou: CUDA ships a custom compiler based on GCC |
| 18:42 |
benrob0329 |
So versions of GCC > 5 arent supported |
| 18:42 |
benrob0329 |
(Much to my frustration) |
| 18:42 |
sofar |
gcc-7.2 in clearlinux |
| 18:42 |
sofar |
5 is pleistocene |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
Minetest says 3.0 because it doesn't use Core Profile |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
Mesa supports only up to OpenGL 3.0 if not using Core Profile |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
(i.e. if using Compatibility Profile) |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
https://mesamatrix.net/ |
| 18:43 |
sfan5 |
>use outdated software |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
modern Intel IGPs (Skylake+) can do OpenGL 4.5 on Linux |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
so you're fine :) |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: you could install an old GCC, maybe |
| 18:43 |
benrob0329 |
Maybe |
| 18:44 |
benrob0329 |
My distro doesnt provide packages for older GCC versions though |
| 18:44 |
benrob0329 |
So I'd have to switch distros (again) or build from source |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
On the first day, custom repositories were created. On the second day, Mark invented personal package archives. On the third day, hats came up with Copr. |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
I should start writing a bible for open source |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
building GCC from source shouldn't be too hard, https://github.com/richfelker/musl-cross-make does it for a musl-compatible GCC |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
this one doesn't do glibc GCCs though |
| 18:46 |
* sofar |
grabs the flathub blender |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
just get it from blender.org |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
it's the only one they support at #blender :) |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
their binary is ridiculously portable, it bundles everything |
| 18:46 |
sofar |
not relevant, I need to test flatpak functionality in my distro |
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| 18:47 |
sofar |
otherwise I wouldn't even be doing this during work time |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
:( |
| 18:47 |
* Calinou |
still is Flatpak-free here |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
as in, I've never needed one |
| 18:47 |
benrob0329 |
Heres the thing, if CUDA needs an old version of GCC, why not bundle a GCC binary? |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
same for Snap |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: who would bundle it? |
| 18:47 |
benrob0329 |
Nvidia |
| 18:47 |
Krock |
sfan5, duh.. what adds the "g" in front of the git hash? That's stupid |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
considering NVIDIA isn't too big on GPL compliance, I doubt that :) |
| 18:48 |
benrob0329 |
They use it, couldn't be that hard for 'em |
| 18:48 |
sfan5 |
Krock: it's easy to get confused about sure, but it's some sort of convention |
| 18:49 |
benrob0329 |
But hey, I'll be taking my business elsewhere in the future anyways :-) |
| 18:49 |
benrob0329 |
Heck, even Intel is |
| 18:50 |
* sofar |
coughs hear hear |
| 18:50 |
Calinou |
I wish I could |
| 18:51 |
* benrob0329 |
drools over Vega Frontier |
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| 19:12 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, *sells RX 480 for mining and gets the profits for the Vega* |
| 19:19 |
Megaf |
Happy Megaf is Happy |
| 19:20 |
Megaf |
I have just successfully replaced my macbooks pro keyboard. |
| 19:20 |
Megaf |
53 screws holding this keyboard in the chassis |
| 19:22 |
IhrFussel |
Writing to map.sqlite seems to cause the most IO (30-90%) ... is there really NOTHING I can do about it? My server isn't very responsive with this issue |
| 19:23 |
sofar |
yes, you could migrate to postgres |
| 19:23 |
sfan5 |
use redis |
| 19:23 |
sofar |
or redis |
| 19:23 |
IhrFussel |
Is reis easier to setup than psql? |
| 19:23 |
IhrFussel |
redis* |
| 19:24 |
sfan5 |
probably |
| 19:28 |
Fixer |
selling ATI X800GTO for mining, retro, give me lots of money, just because, crypto |
| 19:29 |
Fixer |
sofar: 5 is pleistocene? Now what is GCC 2.X? |
| 19:29 |
sofar |
that would be devonian |
| 19:29 |
Fixer |
sofar: also, NUC looks interesting but price makes me SAD! |
| 19:30 |
sofar |
trump sad or sad panda sad? |
| 19:30 |
Fixer |
sofar: i kinda wish for passive cooling small box that can do gaming on medium details at 1080p, now thats "bestest" |
| 19:30 |
sofar |
I'm running 1080p at 30fps with 8xFSAA |
| 19:31 |
sofar |
could turn of FSAA it just looks pretty |
| 19:31 |
sofar |
250 distance |
| 19:31 |
Fixer |
eh |
| 19:31 |
Fixer |
sofar: in singleplayer? |
| 19:31 |
sofar |
yes |
| 19:32 |
sofar |
I have no network to external at work - udp firewallz |
| 19:32 |
Fixer |
sofar: i kinda wish intel did something like C64 formfactor bad with passive cooling and "badass graphics", even with some SSD |
| 19:32 |
sofar |
minnowboard |
| 19:33 |
Fixer |
not sure what "bad" is doing in that sentence but you got the idea |
| 19:33 |
Fixer |
intel atom -_- |
| 19:34 |
sofar |
many vendors sell all-in-one systems where the PC is the keyboard or in the monitor, even |
| 19:34 |
Fixer |
sofar: not good enough |
| 19:34 |
Fixer |
sofar: yeah, seen those |
| 19:34 |
Fixer |
seen one from HP iirc |
| 19:34 |
Fixer |
i forgot how it is called |
| 19:35 |
Fixer |
it is like thick monitor with cables |
| 19:35 |
IhrFussel |
is the cmake flag -DENABLE_REDIS=1 ? |
| 19:35 |
Fixer |
iirc it costs shit tons of money |
| 19:35 |
Fixer |
unfortunately |
| 19:36 |
sofar |
IhrFussel: cmake -LH . (shows cmake options and their values) |
| 19:37 |
Fixer |
nuc cost is insane, i looked in some shops, 500usd for just box and CPU, insane |
| 19:37 |
Megaf |
sfan5, any DB will cause use IO, why would Redis/PSQL be any better? |
| 19:38 |
sfan5 |
redis because it moves io to predicatable times |
| 19:38 |
sfan5 |
since it writes the db (depending on how much changes) at certain intervals |
| 19:38 |
sofar |
Fixer: pfff, NUCs go from almost 100$ to high end i7's for 500$, entirely reasonable imho |
| 19:39 |
sofar |
I'm not a fan of the skull canyon one myself, though |
| 19:39 |
Fixer |
without vat? |
| 19:40 |
Megaf |
sfan5, Redis sounds like a good DB for a Raspberry Pi then |
| 19:40 |
sofar |
I'm in OR, there is no sales tax here |
| 19:40 |
IhrFussel |
I compiled hiredis with sudo make install I hope that's right... |
| 19:40 |
Fixer |
still insane, for that money i can upgrade to that new motherboard+corei3-8100(i5 basically) |
| 19:41 |
Fixer |
some hunt for refurbished thinkpad |
| 19:41 |
Fixer |
good option |
| 19:42 |
sofar |
you're trading value for something else |
| 19:42 |
Fixer |
sure |
| 19:43 |
sofar |
some people pay 1000$ for a graphics card and will never buy a CPU that costs more than 120$ |
| 19:43 |
sofar |
then it's nonsense |
| 19:43 |
sofar |
but i7 nucs are kinda pricey, I wouldn't buy them |
| 19:43 |
Fixer |
even i5 |
| 19:43 |
sofar |
i3/i5 models are usually plenty for my needs |
| 19:43 |
IhrFussel |
Is it safe to recompile while minetest runs? |
| 19:44 |
sofar |
yes |
| 19:44 |
sofar |
i3 7th gen nuc is ~250$ |
| 19:44 |
Fixer |
for example in local shop they want ~385$ just for i3 :/ |
| 19:44 |
sofar |
sure it's probably 50$ more than a no-name carboard box |
| 19:44 |
Fixer |
and i need to buy ram, hdd, etc |
| 19:45 |
sofar |
I don't want a pizza box by Cheng Electronics |
| 19:45 |
sofar |
you only ever need ram+hdd with a nuc |
| 19:45 |
sofar |
not (etc) |
| 19:45 |
Fixer |
i5 near 500usd |
| 19:45 |
sofar |
340$ |
| 19:45 |
Fixer |
:/ |
| 19:46 |
sofar |
$213 (older gen, I think) |
| 19:46 |
sofar |
wait that's without CPU |
| 19:47 |
Fixer |
213usd without CPU??? |
| 19:47 |
Fixer |
so it is box + mb + PSU = 213 usd? |
| 19:47 |
Fixer |
that is damn pricy |
| 19:48 |
sofar |
ultra slim (shuttle) |
| 19:49 |
IhrFussel |
-- Redis backend enabled. ... seems to have worked... now I just need to edit world.mt and then run --migrate redis --world path correct? |
| 19:49 |
sofar |
start a redis server, right? |
| 19:49 |
sfan5 |
^ this |
| 19:50 |
IhrFussel |
Huh? Do I need more than hiredis? |
| 19:50 |
sofar |
Fixer: 150$-220$ just for an i5 processor |
| 19:50 |
sfan5 |
IhrFussel: redis is a database server |
| 19:51 |
Fixer |
desktop core i3 is i5 for now (for same prjce), not sure about smaller form factors |
| 19:51 |
IhrFussel |
So install redis-server package? |
| 19:53 |
IhrFussel |
Ok seems to run redis 18209 1 0 20:52 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/redis-server 127.0.0.1:6379 |
| 19:53 |
IhrFussel |
Ready for migration now? |
| 19:56 |
sofar |
setup redis credentials/db info? |
| 19:56 |
sfan5 |
you should read the wiki page on db backends first |
| 19:56 |
sofar |
https://wiki.minetest.net/Database_backends#world.mt_settings_for_Redis |
| 19:58 |
* Shara |
noticed the Aello |
| 19:58 |
Shara |
Hello :) |
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| 20:00 |
IhrFussel |
Hi Shara ... sofar sfan5 you mean this? https://pastebin.com/bUWrywy2 ... or do I need to create an account inside redis-server? |
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| 20:00 |
sfan5 |
that config suffices already, redis has no concept of accounts |
| 20:01 |
sofar |
it's been ages since I've tried, but yeah, I think that's OK? |
| 20:03 |
IhrFussel |
In case something is wrong minetest will complain and not corrupt my sqlite DB right? |
| 20:04 |
sfan5 |
why would it? |
| 20:04 |
sfan5 |
in any case just make a backup |
| 20:07 |
IhrFussel |
I made one 10 hours ago...so in case something gets corrupt the loss won't be big...I don't want to make another backup though |
| 20:11 |
Megaf |
Maybe this is my next laptop https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T410-Windows-10-Laptop-Webcam-Warranty-Core-i5-2-4-Ghz-Grade-A/352059174799?hash=item51f85caf8f:g:t4cAAOSwWflZ7wgb |
| 20:11 |
Megaf |
that model at least |
| 20:11 |
Megaf |
to replace my MacBook Pro |
| 20:12 |
Megaf |
going from a Core2Duo dual core 2,4 GHz to an i5 quad core 2,4 GHz |
| 20:12 |
Mr_Pardison |
big improvement IMO |
| 20:13 |
Megaf |
It's an old i5, but still, better than a Core2Duo |
| 20:14 |
Mr_Pardison |
I'd like to get a new computer as mine is a Dell Vostro 3400. quad core 2.4GHz intel i5. |
| 20:14 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 20:14 |
Calinou |
Megaf: the T410 Is old |
| 20:14 |
Mr_Pardison |
now it refuses to boot on me so I'm going to install fedora on it. |
| 20:14 |
Calinou |
it's an old i5 |
| 20:15 |
Calinou |
also, I think it's dual-core |
| 20:15 |
Calinou |
yep, it is |
| 20:15 |
Megaf |
Calinou, Maybe I will buy this thing if I get the money https://www3.lenovo.com/ie/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-5th-Gen/p/22TP2TXX15G?IPromoID=LEN761771 |
| 20:15 |
Calinou |
both the i5-520M and i5-540M are dual cores with HT (2C/4T) |
| 20:15 |
Calinou |
Megaf: sarcasm? :D |
| 20:16 |
Megaf |
Calinou, eh, not really |
| 20:16 |
Megaf |
I want a ThinkPad |
| 20:16 |
Megaf |
I am replacing a MacBook Pro with a ThinkPad |
| 20:16 |
Calinou |
ThinkPads are infamous for mediocre displays, even at high prices |
| 20:16 |
Calinou |
if you don't need lots of connectivity, the Yoga 910 is pretty good |
| 20:16 |
Calinou |
(or its successor, I haven't checked it out yet) |
| 20:16 |
Calinou |
(source: I have a Yoga 910) |
| 20:17 |
Megaf |
ah, that's dual core, forget about it |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
yes, they're all dual cores |
| 20:17 |
Megaf |
I will just wait for some Ryzen ThinkPads to show up |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
quad core ultrabooks are currently being released thanks to Kaby Lake Refresh |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
(8th gen) |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
and 6-core laptops, soon |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
Megaf: probably not gonna happen |
| 20:18 |
Mr_Pardison |
here in the US, at Costco I have found a couple of decent gaming ones for $800 |
| 20:18 |
Megaf |
https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/asus-gl702zc-amd-a8-16gb-1tb-256gb-ssd-17.3-inch-windows-10-laptop-gl702zc-gc104t/version.asp?refsource=LDIEadwords&gclid=CjwKCAiAxarQBRAmEiwA6YcGKIB7LMdncq_LK7PNNreUmnIbFc1Q6aRMRgbuzmzVcEFirPwehAG9yBoCEm0QAvD_BwE |
| 20:18 |
Megaf |
16 threads ^ |
| 20:19 |
Megaf |
same price as the dual core thinkpad |
| 20:19 |
Megaf |
fuck intel... |
| 20:19 |
Megaf |
and 16 GB of RAM |
| 20:19 |
Megaf |
AMD FTW |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
Mr-Pardison: gaming laptops have low battery life, poor finish and low portability |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
avoid them at all costs |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
(it's far better to get a desktop + an ultrabook instead) |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
(it will be more expensive, of course…) |
| 20:21 |
Mr-Pardison |
ik. |
| 20:21 |
Mr-Pardison |
I'm looking for somethign that is an all-around one. |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
source: I've had an Acer Aspire V Nitro in 2015-2016 |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
there is no such laptop :) |
| 20:21 |
Mr-Pardison |
ik. |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
either you optimize for portability, or for performance |
| 20:21 |
Mr-Pardison |
One can wish. |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
unlike desktops, you have to make many choices |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
regardless of the price you're willing to pay for |
| 20:22 |
Mr-Pardison |
I found a decent one that is less than $500. |
| 20:23 |
Shara |
I've done okay with gaming laptops before. |
| 20:23 |
Shara |
But then I don't object to carrying something heavier than the norm. |
| 20:24 |
Megaf |
Well, the thing I care the most is build quality |
| 20:24 |
Megaf |
My macbook pro has 57 screws just to hold the keyboard in place... |
| 20:25 |
Megaf |
There's where your money go when you buy an Apple |
| 20:25 |
Mr-Pardison |
screw that. |
| 20:25 |
Mr-Pardison |
I can't stand apple. |
| 20:25 |
Megaf |
(I counted, I have just replaced my keyboard) |
| 20:26 |
Fixer |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw9UWrXF6Uw |
| 20:26 |
IhrFussel |
minetestserver: error while loading shared libraries: libhiredis.so.0.13: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 20:26 |
oOChainLynxOo |
I'd get an old macbook pro just to put another os on it |
| 20:26 |
oOChainLynxOo |
swap out the hdd with an ssd and upgrade the ram |
| 20:26 |
Shara |
I used to travel too much to rely on a desktop for anything. |
| 20:27 |
Fixer |
yeah, I was surprised on Thinkpad screen, they are POS |
| 20:27 |
Shara |
So compromised with a laptop and not caring about how much it weighed :) |
| 20:28 |
oOChainLynxOo |
went from a laptop to a desktop, and now miss being able to take it to bed and being chained to my desk :P |
| 20:29 |
Megaf |
oOChainLynxOo, I have a 2010 MacBook Pro, removed the optical drive, removed the HDD, put a SSD and it runs Debian :D |
| 20:30 |
Megaf |
And I will upgrade it to 16 GB of RAM soon |
| 20:30 |
oOChainLynxOo |
Megaf: that's exactly what I'm gonna get |
| 20:30 |
oOChainLynxOo |
not bad specs for its age |
| 20:30 |
Fixer |
oOChainLynxOo: tablet seems more comfortable than notebook in bed |
| 20:30 |
Megaf |
well, its CPU and VGA were underpowered when it was new already... |
| 20:31 |
Megaf |
Core2Duo 2,4 GHz and nvidia 320M |
| 20:31 |
Mr-Pardison |
I'm used to a laptop during my late-night sessions. |
| 20:31 |
Fixer |
i've tried to lie in bed with 15" notebook, NOPE_NOPE |
| 20:31 |
Megaf |
13" laptops, that's the sweet spot |
| 20:31 |
oOChainLynxOo |
i've tried tablets in bed, idk why but i'm not much of a tablet person |
| 20:31 |
Fixer |
on the other hand tablet with good screen and touch interface in bed is good |
| 20:32 |
Megaf |
you you try people in bed... I promise it can be better than tablets... |
| 20:32 |
Fixer |
not everyone likes android though |
| 20:32 |
Megaf |
you shout try* |
| 20:32 |
Fixer |
android, windows, ios, macos, linux just grades of shit |
| 20:32 |
Megaf |
BeOS for the win! |
| 20:32 |
Fixer |
linux just does not report on you much |
| 20:33 |
oOChainLynxOo |
really wanna sell my ipad |
| 20:33 |
oOChainLynxOo |
won't get much tho since it's older |
| 20:33 |
oOChainLynxOo |
used to be an iSheep when I was a teenager |
| 20:33 |
Mr-Pardison |
adn it asks you if you want to send a bug report when something crashes which is nice. |
| 20:33 |
Mr-Pardison |
iSheep. lol |
| 20:33 |
Mr-Pardison |
I don't even have a phone. |
| 20:34 |
Fixer |
nice |
| 20:34 |
Fixer |
iSheep |
| 20:34 |
Mr-Pardison |
#firstworldproblems |
| 20:34 |
Megaf |
Well, I do appreciate old Apple hardware, it used to be quite good |
| 20:34 |
Fixer |
we need such mod for minetest |
| 20:34 |
Megaf |
now days they are all crap |
| 20:34 |
Fixer |
Megaf: screens are good |
| 20:34 |
IhrFussel |
sfan5, sofar -> minetestserver: error while loading shared libraries: libhiredis.so.0.13: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 20:34 |
Megaf |
Fixer, yep, but their computers aren't |
| 20:34 |
oOChainLynxOo |
i remember wanting one of the old clamshell ibooks with the handle |
| 20:34 |
Megaf |
And I'm not talking about performance |
| 20:34 |
sfan5 |
so you managed to compile & link mt with hiredis but it's not actually preset at runtime? |
| 20:35 |
sfan5 |
something is broken with your environment |
| 20:35 |
Fixer |
where else you can find good 16:10 screen on notebook? everything is 16:9 thin crap |
| 20:35 |
Megaf |
oOChainLynxOo, those were/are quite neat |
| 20:35 |
IhrFussel |
The file DOES exist /usr/local/lib/libhiredis.so.0.13 |
| 20:35 |
Fixer |
they can't even stop putting that 1366*768 resolution from 1995 |
| 20:35 |
Fixer |
come on |
| 20:35 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel, ldd minetestserver |
| 20:35 |
Megaf |
Fixer, indeed |
| 20:36 |
Megaf |
I'm a victim of a 15" 16:9 1366x768 laptop |
| 20:36 |
Megaf |
from 2014 |
| 20:36 |
Megaf |
a Toshiba Satellite |
| 20:36 |
sfan5 |
IhrFussel: did you install libhiredis manually? |
| 20:36 |
oOChainLynxOo |
oh god |
| 20:36 |
Mr-Pardison |
RIP. |
| 20:36 |
sfan5 |
in either case try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib |
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oOChainLynxOo |
i've had 2 toshiba lappys in my time |
| 20:36 |
oOChainLynxOo |
euugh |
| 20:36 |
Mr-Pardison |
I still have one of those tiny acer netbooks but it's broken (dropped it and the power button thinks it is continually being tapped) |
| 20:36 |
IhrFussel |
sfan5, I downloaded the zip from github, changed to its dir and sent sudo make install |
| 20:37 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel, did you make before make install? |
| 20:37 |
sfan5 |
and why didn't you install it from the repos? |
| 20:39 |
Fixer |
Megaf: lol, RIP your eyes |
| 20:39 |
Fixer |
when i see it, i want to throw up |
| 20:39 |
Megaf |
Fixer, why do you think I dont even know where I put that laptop |
| 20:39 |
IhrFussel |
sfan5, how do I delete the manually compiled version now? |
| 20:39 |
Fixer |
half screen white, half screen dark, and pixelated |
| 20:39 |
sfan5 |
IhrFussel: you don't, just keep it now |
| 20:39 |
Megaf |
I honestly don't know where my Satellite is |
| 20:39 |
Fixer |
Megaf: use it as server |
| 20:40 |
Megaf |
Fixer, Already have ODroid and Raspberries for that |
| 20:40 |
Fixer |
lol |
| 20:40 |
Fixer |
you have plenty |
| 20:40 |
IhrFussel |
libhiredis0.13 libhiredis-dbg libhiredis-dev which is it? |
| 20:40 |
Megaf |
-dev |
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sfan5 |
you have it installed manually, DO NOT install the package on top of that |
| 20:41 |
Megaf |
^ dat |
| 20:41 |
Megaf |
remove what you installed before |
| 20:41 |
IhrFussel |
How do I uninstall something I installed via make install...make uninstall? |
| 20:41 |
Megaf |
try |
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| 20:50 |
Megaf |
Speaking from a tablet now |
| 20:50 |
IhrFussel |
I have to delete the files manually |
| 20:51 |
Megaf |
So do it |
| 20:51 |
Megaf |
find / -lname *hiredis* |
| 20:51 |
Megaf |
or find / | grep hiredis |
| 20:52 |
sfan5 |
rm -r /usr/local/lib/libhiredis.* /usr/local/include/hiredis* probably works |
| 20:53 |
Megaf |
Or that |
| 20:55 |
benrob0329 |
\>Toshiba laptop |
| 20:55 |
benrob0329 |
Been there, done that. Still sitting dead in the get-rid-of pile |
| 20:56 |
IhrFussel |
I used ls -R /usr | grep hiredis and deleted all those... now libhiredis-dev is installed and I ran minetestserver --migrate redis --world path ... it doesn't give any progress? |
| 20:56 |
sfan5 |
it should |
| 20:56 |
IhrFussel |
It just says 2017-11-14 21:53:33: WARNING[Main]: Couldn't find a locale directory! |
| 20:59 |
IhrFussel |
Seems to work though...iotop tells me 99% constantly |
| 21:00 |
Mr-Pardison |
well, g2g soon (2 minutes) will brb |
| 21:01 |
IhrFussel |
Am I seeing that correctly? Read speed per second is 500 KB?? That will take DAYS with a 19 GB DB |
| 21:03 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: Patience |
| 21:03 |
Megaf |
My server have been down for months, been trying to optimze and work around all MT problems |
| 21:03 |
Megaf |
while staying with sqlite |
| 21:03 |
Megaf |
and my map is @only@ 5 GB |
| 21:03 |
Megaf |
"only" |
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IhrFussel |
Megaf, I cannot have my server own for so long...I thought it could take a few hours maybe...but I will have to cancel it if it really would take days |
| 21:04 |
IhrFussel |
down* |
| 21:07 |
sfan5 |
shouldn't take that long |
| 21:08 |
IhrFussel |
sfan5, I cancelled it... Before I really do it again I want to first check if redis really takes care of the lag spikes caused by IO |
| 21:10 |
sfan5 |
make a copy of your server and test it with that |
| 21:14 |
IhrFussel |
sfan5, where does redis store the DB? |
| 21:15 |
sfan5 |
ask google |
| 21:31 |
Calinou |
so I started up Minecraft Infdev today… |
| 21:31 |
Calinou |
[nostalgia intensifies] |
| 21:31 |
Calinou |
https://media.hugo.pro/javaw_2017-11-14_22-25-43.png |
| 21:31 |
Calinou |
https://media.hugo.pro/javaw_2017-11-14_22-19-18.png |
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| 21:42 |
Fixer |
compressing PDFs LIKE A BOSS |
| 21:43 |
Fixer |
Calinou: install beta 1.7.3 |
| 21:43 |
Fixer |
Calinou: and mod it |
| 21:43 |
Fixer |
.___. |
| 21:43 |
Fixer |
for maximum effect |
| 21:44 |
Fixer |
p-r-m-t will kill us for offtopic |
| 21:46 |
Fixer |
Calinou: check gravel texture *cough* |
| 21:48 |
Calinou |
this is one inch away from a topic, since it's that other voxel game :P |
| 21:48 |
Calinou |
also, this week, I'm celebrating my 7th Minecraft birthday |
| 21:52 |
Fixer |
intensifies |
| 21:53 |
Fixer |
Calinou: and I celebrated 6 years of minetest |
| 21:53 |
Fixer |
Calinou: and somewhat less of Minecraft, I've played it on their website for few days ._. |
| 21:53 |
Fixer |
Calinou: but did not install, because 1536mb RAM, and java |
| 21:54 |
Fixer |
Calinou: actually videocard performance was a concern, i've tried some post release one, and it was like 40 fps |
| 21:54 |
Calinou |
yeah |
| 21:54 |
Calinou |
today's computers run Minecraft very easily |
| 21:54 |
Calinou |
we've come a long way between 2010 PCs and 2017 ones :P |
| 21:55 |
Fixer |
yah |
| 21:55 |
Calinou |
I began playing Minecraft on an Core 2 Duo @ 3 GHz, 3 GB of DDR3 and a GeForce 9800 GTX |
| 21:55 |
Calinou |
on Ubuntu 10.04 32-bit |
| 21:55 |
Calinou |
50-70 FPS on Far+Fancy in 1920×1080 |
| 21:55 |
Fixer |
i have torrent of minecraft dated 17.05.2011 |
| 21:55 |
Fixer |
says it is 1.5 |
| 21:55 |
Fixer |
probably it is beta 1.5 that i've tried |
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| 21:59 |
Calinou |
yep, Beta 1.5 was released on April 30 |
| 21:59 |
Calinou |
April 19 |
| 21:59 |
Calinou |
I remember many MC release dates by heart |
| 22:06 |
Fixer |
holy fuck, so i've pretty sure tried out beta 1.5 |
| 22:10 |
Fixer |
----.cd >400gb torrent o_O |
| 22:12 |
Calinou |
I ran a seedbox to seed Linux ISOs and open source releases, but got into trouble again :| |
| 22:12 |
Calinou |
so I'm not doing it anymore |
| 22:12 |
Calinou |
(2nd time this happens to me) |
| 22:13 |
Calinou |
(when I get to 3, I'm sure an helicopter will follow me 24/7) |
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| 22:16 |
Fixer |
minecraft.jar only 1.3mb |
| 22:16 |
Fixer |
pretty sure it is beta |
| 22:16 |
Fixer |
so i can technicly celebrate 6 years too |
| 22:16 |
Fixer |
of minecraft |
| 22:16 |
Fixer |
i chose minetest |
| 22:16 |
Fixer |
what a silly dumb opensource zealot |
| 22:17 |
Fixer |
.___. |
| 22:19 |
ThomasMonroe |
lol |
| 22:20 |
Calinou |
my Minecraft Infdev world is 3.5 MB |
| 22:20 |
Calinou |
(a .zip is 3.9 MB, go figure) |
| 22:20 |
Calinou |
the game loads it in less than 0.5 seconds |
| 22:20 |
Calinou |
(very impressive, compared to today's Minecraft) |
| 22:26 |
IhrFussel |
Can I use the map.sqlite that's been used for migration still after I cancel the process? I mean is the sqlite DB 100% functional? |
| 22:27 |
sfan5 |
yes |
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| 22:30 |
Fixer |
Calinou: i have Etho's lets play series 1 world (beta world) |
| 22:30 |
Fixer |
hunted it down on the internetz |
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| 22:31 |
Calinou |
heh, I never paid much attention to Minecraft YouTubers |
| 22:31 |
Calinou |
but I do remember that name |
| 22:31 |
Fixer |
Calinou: remembering reading manual before actually trying that beta 1.5 thing |
| 22:31 |
Calinou |
and… Honeydew |
| 22:31 |
Calinou |
"DIGGY DIGGY HOLE, I JUST SAID IT, I AM 20% COOLER NOW" |
| 22:31 |
Calinou |
:| |
| 22:32 |
Fixer |
Calinou: also, i did actually play Infiniminer |
| 22:32 |
Fixer |
not sure how many did too |
| 22:32 |
Calinou |
I never played it |
| 22:32 |
Calinou |
what if Minetest cloned Infiniminer instead of Minecraft? ;) |
| 22:32 |
Fixer |
it is voxel engine with some 8bit gamestyle |
| 22:32 |
Calinou |
Infinitest |
| 22:32 |
Fixer |
lol |
| 22:33 |
Fixer |
minecraft beta gravel texture *cough* https://media-elerium.cursecdn.com/attachments/10/932/2014-05-09_15.png |
| 22:33 |
benrob0329 |
eww |
| 22:34 |
Fixer |
seems familiar, right? :D |
| 22:44 |
Fixer |
in a surprising mooove, i will compile new minetest and confirm some fixes and review that light curve |
| 22:44 |
Calinou |
yeah, the gravel texture was pretty bad |
| 22:44 |
Calinou |
many textures were good, even in the 2010 Minecraft :) |
| 22:45 |
Fixer |
Calinou: we had the same freaking gravel texture ;) |
| 22:45 |
Fixer |
literally close to same |
| 22:46 |
Fixer |
anyone tried new firefox quantum? |
| 22:48 |
* Calinou |
attempts building Minetest using MSVC 2017, installing libraries using vcpkg |
| 22:48 |
Calinou |
I wish I could use MSYS2, but CMake doesn't like it :( |
| 22:49 |
Fixer |
in what way? |
| 22:49 |
Fixer |
Calinou: i'm using msys2 without problems |
| 22:53 |
Calinou |
it doesn't find the OpenGL libraries |
| 22:54 |
Calinou |
I've been struggling with this for months |
| 22:55 |
Calinou |
:( CMake doesn't find libogg/libvorbis that I installed using vcpkg |
| 22:55 |
Calinou |
anyway, vcpkg doesn't have Irrlicht |
| 22:59 |
Fixer |
Calinou: you are using mingw-cmake, right? |
| 22:59 |
Fixer |
Calinou: msys2 + slightly modified buildbot64.sh works like a charm |
| 23:00 |
Calinou |
I installed CMake in MSYS2, yeah |
| 23:00 |
Calinou |
what did you modify? |
| 23:00 |
Calinou |
could these modifications be upstreamed, too? |
| 23:02 |
Fixer |
Calinou: 1) added sh.exe renamer 2) mingw32-make package -j$(nproc) 3) autoadding stdc libs to zip |
| 23:02 |
Fixer |
Calinou: 4) logging into file |
| 23:02 |
Fixer |
also checked that toolchain file so it is correct |
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| 23:20 |
Fixer |
Calinou: did this in beta if you have not seen https://i.imgur.com/wWRX8Bo.png |
| 23:26 |
Calinou |
looks nice |
| 23:26 |
Calinou |
I'm a bad builder :( |
| 23:26 |
Calinou |
or, at least, I don't even try building fancy things these days |
| 23:26 |
Calinou |
(lack of time) |
| 23:37 |
Fixer |
it is not made in one day |
| 23:37 |
Fixer |
lets say it was finished in month |
| 23:37 |
Fixer |
months |
| 23:38 |
Fixer |
no time, or no mood, or no concept, or lag, or shitty - rebuild, thinking on interior, thinking on exterior, doing other project, etc-etc |
| 23:38 |
Fixer |
i did nether hub in between |
| 23:41 |
Fixer |
Calinou: another my project https://i.imgur.com/q4lhgBE.png |
| 23:41 |
Fixer |
finished too |
| 23:46 |
Jordach |
>tfw you figure out what subnets |
| 23:46 |
Jordach |
>tfw it's literally a folder in a folder in a folder |
| 23:47 |
Jordach |
it's used to get past IP assignment limits on connected devices |
