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00:11 rubenwardy https://twitter.com/fs_compsci/status/915584097258545157
00:13 shivajiva nice, we need more of that kind of thing
00:16 jas_ yes, fixer, still no joy.  some success locally, however, but not in connecting to unix-experience.fr:30001
00:39 IhrFussel jas_, the problem is that nerzhul's server tries to send a 460 MB packet at some random point which disconnects the player
00:39 rubenwardy lol
00:40 jas_ is it a one-shot?  if i waited would it work?
00:40 IhrFussel Yes it's totally random and will happen at some point..nerzhul even added an error message for the client in the newest commit and it displayed "Huge packet awaited, size: 485636303" in my chat
00:42 IhrFussel When that message appeared everything stopped loading and my RAM usage went from 1 GB to 1.5 GB
00:43 jas_ well all i get is a grey screen
00:43 IhrFussel But I'm sure he will be able to fix it today (Oct 5)
00:43 jas_ maybe i didn't see it in log, i didn't look actualy
00:43 IhrFussel Yes that's random just retzry a few times
00:43 jas_ yes i understand it's massive wip
00:44 IhrFussel Either it loads normally and you can play for a few minutes or it only loads part of the map before you disconnect or you see only gray when it disconnects
00:44 jas_ keep meaning to get to mod channels all day haha maybe 2mrw
00:44 jas_ gotta test this kelp PR first
00:45 IhrFussel But if you manage to play a bit you should soon get the error message in chat
00:45 jas_ see how it looks with opaque water.  or any water, because last i knew underwater decorations didnt look right
00:45 IhrFussel And see your RAM usage spike
00:45 jas_ yea
00:45 jas_ well i can test that somewhat locally, or on lan i mean
00:45 jas_ i did get it to connect to separate host on lan OK
00:45 jas_ it seems a bit heavier on CPU, but not sure
00:46 jas_ (i'm talking about minetestserver, didn't look at cpu for client)
00:46 IhrFussel Hm well I'm sure tomorrow 0.5.0-dev with asio will work better xP going to bed now, see ya
00:47 jas_ nn
01:12 sofar ugh, I'm gonna waste all my time with https://cmdchallenge.com/
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06:01 Megaf Cool, my low end budget laptop can play 1080p@60FPS with opensource radeon drivers
06:03 Megaf using vdpau decoder and output
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06:45 Megaf https://imgur.com/gallery/5tpVQ
06:45 Megaf :D
07:25 jas_ https://twitch.tv/jastvn
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08:24 shivajiva o/
08:29 jas_ hello o/
08:31 shivajiva Hi, I found a solution for the inventory sort, called a sort function after the event so it's in a fixed state
08:38 jas_ so, you're able to determine whether the client right-clicked off a stack?
08:38 jas_ (hope i'm remembering the right issue)
08:40 shivajiva yes, as it's static at that point it's easily processed, the player has released the button and all states are known
08:41 jas_ OH you can get player_controls() and see them right click off the stack??
08:41 jas_ maybe i misunderstood.  anyway, that's great you found a way to do this
08:41 jas_ is your mod complete now? :)
08:42 shivajiva clicking in any slot places it in the correct slot and any overflow put back in main even on a right click event
08:43 shivajiva no it has a little way to go and I'm just assisting someone complete their idea
08:43 jas_ ah
08:45 shivajiva I write boring stuff like ban and auth replacements that use sql db
08:46 jas_ interesting
08:46 jas_ i know the stock ones have been limiting for me in the past
08:46 jas_ ban in particular, anyway
08:46 shivajiva https://github.com/shivajiva101
08:46 jas_ i ended up resorting to xban2.  i always wished the was better banning mechanism is stock minetest
08:47 shivajiva doesn't everyone :)
08:47 jas_ something you think might be appropriate for the core?
08:47 shivajiva but when xban2 files start corrupting on a regular basis you need somewhere to turn
08:48 jas_ you use a sql db?  i dunno what that means exactly.  i know there's sqlite, but, what about this new ModStorage store?
08:48 jas_ i think maybe it's 0.4.17 only?
08:48 jas_ is your DB somehow external, or uses minetest functions? (*reads further*
08:49 jas_ oh yes i see, it uses external lib and stuff
08:49 jas_ interesting
08:49 jas_ nice mods
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08:50 jas_ so i take it because of the external lib, this wouldn't make it into core?
08:50 jas_ i think the default /ban only does name on an IP, so all they have to do is change their name?  lol
08:51 shivajiva heh think about rollback having access to a sqlite db, seems it will slot in if required
08:52 shivajiva or desired
08:52 jas_ oh yea, rollback already does use an external db, and that's somewhere in core or c++ ?  well i still wonder if you've made improvements that would fit in with the default minetest
08:53 shivajiva I believe so
08:55 jas_ perhaps a PR is in order :D
08:55 shivajiva mod_storage uses a flat file, any tables need serialising, it's main purpose is to provide safe storage that doesn't corrupt on server crash and eases the handling aspect
08:55 shivajiva not ideal for a db
08:55 jas_ so yeah, your approach seems consistent
08:56 jas_ hrm, i know so little of database, auth, or core stuff hehe
08:56 shivajiva the same data stored in a db takes less than half the space of xban2 db file
08:56 jas_ ye i wasn't too happy with having to use xban2
08:57 shivajiva and db access seems reasonable at ~2 ms a query
08:58 jas_ do you know what the current stock latency is?
08:58 jas_ or delay
08:58 jas_ 2ms seens very minute
08:59 shivajiva should be 0.1s, I was in a test server the other day that was consistently 0.1
08:59 jas_ oh ok.  well that's 200%!! haha, still seems small.  is it even noticeable to you?
09:00 shivajiva nope I can't detect any significant delay on player join
09:00 jas_ cool.
09:01 shivajiva more people that test, the better idea I have of any issues
09:01 jas_ but if it were merged upstream, it would need some of it to be c++?  (i'm confused about the ie, and ie.require)
09:01 jas_ i'd love to test a PR for sure
09:02 shivajiva ie = insecure environment
09:02 jas_ right, but it wouldn't use a require() if it were upstream would it?  or, at least i've never seen one
09:03 shivajiva once mod security is turned on you need to use it but upstream it wouldn't require it, pun intended
09:03 jas_ ok
09:03 jas_ sounds good to me :) 👍
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09:11 shivajiva o/
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09:30 Megaf Hi folks
09:30 jas_ hi
09:45 Raven262 Hi Megaf
10:05 Krock hi Megaf, shivajiva, Raven262
10:06 Raven262 Hi Krock
10:06 Megaf :)
10:07 Megaf Got hit by a car today, driver didnt check his mirror before turning
10:07 Raven262 Did you hit him after that?
10:09 Megaf I dented the car and hopefully scratched the paint with my bike
10:09 Krock heh, LR isn't GTA
10:09 Megaf my bike is fine
10:09 Krock *RL
10:09 jas_ sorry to hear that megaf
10:09 Krock Megaf, and you're fine too? (more important)
10:09 jas_ glad you did alright bike vs. car
10:10 jas_ i did rollerblades vs. car -- it was the shock more than anything
10:11 Megaf Im fine, just some bruises and abrasions
10:11 jas_ good luck to you in that, i hope everything is taken care of for you
10:13 Megaf I will be fine, thanks folks
10:13 Megaf my shoulder is a little sore but I will survive
10:18 * shivajiva sends Megaf a luminous flashing jacket and a mug of hot chocolate. Expect shock to hit you at some point :/
10:19 Megaf Usually I have my bike headlight flashing all the time. Today I didnt have it mounted on my bike. Learned a less.
10:19 Megaf lesson*
10:19 Megaf dont know if i'd change anything tho
10:19 Megaf Thank shivajiva :)
10:20 Megaf Anyone here on Strava by the way?
10:22 shivajiva main thing is you are fine, drivers are frightening, especially the SUV/people carriers, I like to remind them there is a white line in the middle and crossing it because you are too wide isn't my problem :)
10:24 Megaf and I was in the cycle lane when I got hit...
10:25 Megaf the driver did stop and stayed there with me. He was calm and willing to listen and help.
10:25 Megaf I was running late for college, so I just told him to be more careful and always check his mirror, and let him go
10:26 Megaf Another lady stayed with me for a couple of minutes, she wanted me to get the driver details, but I was meh, I just want go to college... Cant miss the class
10:35 Raven262 I would do the same.
10:35 Raven262 Not sure if it is the right thing to do though.
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10:39 IhrFussel Hi there
10:39 Raven262 Hello IhrFussel
10:46 shivajiva Megaf you always take name and numberplate, if they admit liability you can claim, should anything show up in the immediate future relating to the accident. This is why we need insurance to drive a vehicle after all.
11:01 Megaf Ok, next time a driver crashes into me I will do that shivajiva
11:09 rubenwardy I'm going to be exhibiting Minetest at the freenode conference, here's a draft of a leaflet we'll be handing out: http://rubenwardy.com/MinetestLeaflet.pdf
11:09 rubenwardy feedback appreciated
11:10 rubenwardy almost pasted a link to /home/ruben/Documents then 😬
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11:11 rubenwardy technically it's a booklet
11:11 jas_ very nice
11:12 jas_ i zoomed in on a 1080 display to fit width, it was a little pixely the pictures but i doubt that matters haha
11:12 Krock nice, rubenwardy. "#   minetest on freenode" looks a bit wrong
11:13 rubenwardy Krock, maybe # minetest @ freenode.net?
11:14 sfan5 also replace the domain with irc.freenode.net
11:14 rubenwardy I'd like the icons to be aligned, which is why there's a space
11:14 Krock but the hashtag is an obligatory part of the channel name
11:14 shivajiva looks good ruben, it will print nicely. States the main points and resources. Perhaps # minetest (feenode)
11:14 Krock whereas the globe symbol isn't required in the web address
11:15 sfan5 https://wiki.minetest.net/Remote_media nice article
11:15 Krock I like how you've written feenode, shivajiva :P
11:15 sfan5 >"this is work in progress"
11:15 sfan5 >4 links thrown at reader
11:15 shivajiva lol +r
11:16 rubenwardy jas_, the images should be high def, it's probably just the PDF export
11:16 Krock indeed, Remote_meta isn't a good reference link
11:16 Krock *Media
11:16 rubenwardy yeah, that's on my to do list
11:16 rubenwardy I'm not sure what other link to put
11:17 jas_ why don't you show off sofar's itb website to demonstrate the different ways minetest is used?
11:17 rubenwardy dev.minetest.net should be mentioned in the engine dev section, but repetition
11:17 rubenwardy itb is currently closed source
11:17 jas_ oh snap
11:18 rubenwardy also this document is for helpful links
11:18 rubenwardy not for showing of mods - we have a gallery flip book thing for that
11:18 Krock voxelands, as an early spin-off?
11:18 jas_ how about mentioning how there's like 200+ servers now?  idk, just spitballin' ;D
11:18 Krock jas_, 236 announced ones
11:19 jas_ oh man i just spilled coffee on client_lua_api.md
11:19 Krock (peak value of some unknown timespan)
11:20 Krock jas_, then open client_lua_api.md and extract coffee.exe from it
11:20 jas_ hold on let me get wine
11:21 rubenwardy don't spill wine on it too!
11:22 jas_ it's either that or install windows
11:28 Calinou hi :)
11:29 Calinou <shivajiva> main thing is you are fine, drivers are frightening, especially the SUV/people carriers, I like to remind them there is a white line in the middle and crossing it because you are too wide isn't my problem :)
11:29 Calinou as someone who got his driving license last week, I can only agree with this
11:29 Calinou most people driving are literally zombies
11:30 Calinou Poe's law :P
11:34 IhrFussel So what will happen if I send a colorized chat message from the server to a client that doesn't support them? Will it displays garbage in the chat for them or just ignore the sequence?
11:35 Megaf !ping
11:35 ShadowBot pong
11:35 Megaf ?
11:36 Megaf oh, thanks ShadowBot
11:36 Megaf Lag indicator here on hexchat was just increasing and increasing
11:44 IhrFussel Was just testin g nerzhul's server and got this error terminate called after throwing an instance of 'PacketError'
11:44 IhrFussel what():  Reading outside packet (offset: 11, packet size: 344)
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11:51 jas_ this section is tripping me up: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/client_lua_api.md#sounds
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11:52 jas_ i got a sound in the sounds/ dir but the csm won't play it, it will minetest.sound_play() sounds on the server.  hrm, skipping that
11:53 IhrFussel Of course when I run the client via gdb it doesn't want to happen anymore grr
11:54 jas_ heh.  i think with network_asio testing it'll be like that a lot
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12:01 shivajiva Cal, you should consider doing advance driving if you want to stay on form, it helps immensely too understand what goes on when the vehicle loses grip with a surface and teaches you the maxim of looking further ahead.
12:01 shivajiva -o
12:02 jas_ i'll never forget my instructer all those years ago, preaching about getting the "big picture" (peripheral vision)
12:07 nerzhul IhrFussel, i'm at work i cannot test it atm
12:07 nerzhul i want to finish the ressource stop cleanup before re-read this part
12:08 IhrFussel nerzhul, I'm testing the behavior of the current commit only, no worries...I hope to catch the packet error with gdb
12:08 nerzhul sfan5, nice documentation :D
12:08 nerzhul packet error means you read outside packet
12:11 IhrFussel nerzhul, yes but wouldn't gdb backtrace give more info about where the packet originated?
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12:11 IhrFussel Or what type of packet it is
12:27 jas_ i just spewed a bunch in #minetest-docs, nerzhul: https://pastebin.com/raw/cFpgkSf4
12:27 jas_ if you're interested.  it's about mods.conf file
12:27 jas_ i know there's no gui access yet, not like mod enable screen in world configure
12:29 jas_ i see CSM respect mod.conf inside its directory, with naming differing from dirname
12:29 jas_ but that's a different file anyway
12:29 jas_ i was having problems playing sounds.  there's a brief mention of it in client_lua_api.md, but it would only play sounds off the server, not local ones.
12:29 jas_ fun stuff, onto messages now
12:39 IhrFussel Is running a MT server "multimedia"? -> Obtain an official certificate in order to use this track in a video or multimedia project.
12:41 jas_ yes
12:41 jas_ also, social
12:47 ircSparky araik when a client receives an unknown character, it shows up like an empty space
12:48 ircSparky oop,my bad (I was scrolled up :P0
12:48 ircSparky was talking about the colorized chat
12:50 IhrFussel ircSparky, true except for multibyte strings...but I guess those are just emojis
12:51 ircSparky ok. yeah no idea
13:01 nerzhul IhrFussel, in gdb you have instant snapshot
13:05 IhrFussel nerzhul, not sure what you mean o.o I only know run, interrupt, continue, bt full and quit xP
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13:46 jas_ NERRRRZHULLL
13:46 jas_ minetest.register_on_modchannel_signal is in the wrong file!! haha
13:48 jas_ ooh segfault on leaving channel ^_^ this is fuuuun
13:50 Krock jas_, that function is valid for CSM and SSM
13:50 jas_ really?  hrm, what am i doing wrong, it crashes server
13:50 Krock well, the class it in the client scripting and server scripting part
13:50 Krock *is
13:51 jas_ 2017-10-05 09:43:26: ERROR[Main]: .../.minetest/games/dcbl/mods/dcbl_default/channels.lua:12: attempt to call field 'register_on_modchannel_signal' (a nil value)
13:51 jas_ that's what i get when i try to use it on the server
13:51 Krock builtin up-to-date?
13:51 jas_ it's not even IN client_lua_api.md file, so i dunno.... welll i dunno, i just make install and git pull a lot
13:51 jas_ guess i could start over fresh
13:51 Krock nvm, it appears that it's only defined in the client/ builtin directory
13:51 jas_ so i'm onto something here?
13:52 jas_ i'ma step out for some fresh air anyway, bbiab
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14:03 jas_ alright, onward and upward
14:17 jas_ well i'm outta ideas HAHA
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14:20 jas_ https://pastebin.com/SnfeRR6G
14:21 jas_ oh i don't think i was actually connected to the server, hrm that might help
14:22 jas_ was on singleplayer thinking was connected remotely lolol
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14:35 jas_ (or https://github.com/jastevenson303/dcbl_csm & https://github.com/jastevenson303/dcbl_default/blob/master/channels.lua)
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15:22 Krock Little bit of advertising and feedback: If someone ever tried the simple_protection mod, please help me to make it more user-friendly or to see what people think about it by leaving a feedback here http://www.strawpoll.me/14074891
15:22 Krock jas_, still segfaulting?
15:25 jas_ i meant to check out that mod
15:25 jas_ i would need to test again.  it was on attempt to leave() from client
15:25 jas_ never did see sent messages.  signals maybe
15:25 jas_ eating an orange rn
15:36 jas_ did you ever get it to work before, krock?  i'm gonna give it another shot here ina minute
15:38 Krock preview mod and the one in minimal managed to send messages properly
15:39 Krock but I believe leave() was never used there
15:46 jas_ i didn't realize preview mod had messages, nor minimal.  will look now
15:46 jas_ that woulda saved me some time hehe
15:49 jas_ when leave segfaulted (this was from a chatcommand), i assumed it was supposed to be issued on client leave, or whatever
15:49 jas_ but in that dcbl_csm, if you .dcbl leave, that's when it segfaulted. will test now
15:50 jas_ alright, i can confirm i get a segfault when i do a .dcbl leave, there
15:51 jas_ dunno if that's because of poor programming.  i didn't reference anything when i wrote this.
15:52 jas_ but i also don't have a writeable channel.  i get the channel, but is_writeable() is false on client, but it's true OK on server!
15:52 jas_ (also, it's writable, not writeable, lol)
15:52 jas_ actually, i dunno, maybe that's not even a word. nv
15:52 jas_ nvm
15:56 jas_ Krock: i just attempted to load preview mod, but it errored.  can you confirm that works?
15:56 jas_ 2017-10-05 11:55:58: ERROR[Main]: preview:init.lua:33: attempt to call field 'register_on_receiving_chat_messages' (a nil value)
15:58 jas_ i think maybe this preview dir isn't getting updated on make install, or something. let me try to copy from source dir
15:59 jas_ ok loads now.  yeah, make install isn't updating clientmods/, i figure
16:08 jas_ vast ist dis? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/6f1c90720402415b62fb4d5e809ec7dbc1cd7f96#diff-8a7fb2fa05891dc5f28dac610384b12cR932
16:14 Krock a setting to restrict joins in a channel
16:14 jas_ i don't see much of a difference after enabling it, oh well
16:23 jas_ oh wrong conf file
16:24 jas_ yeah!!
16:32 jas_ things are working! it's so nice!!
16:41 jas_ <3 https://i.imgur.com/wpQwy8y.png
16:45 jas_ thanks for the encouragement krock; and thanks for the channels, nrz
16:45 jas_ o/
16:50 sofar does everyone think that mod channels are for chat stuff?
16:59 Krock well, it can be used for various tasks, including chat transfers
16:59 Calinou hi :)
17:00 Krock hi Calinou
17:00 Calinou I'm updating More Ores a bit (rewriting README and other files)
17:00 Calinou and optimizing some textures (woo, moreores_tin_block.png is now 257 bytes instead of 274 bytes)
17:00 Calinou 267*
17:00 IhrFussel Can I tell gdb to display the executed lines as the program runs?
17:01 IhrFussel Like an auto-next
17:02 rubenwardy layout src
17:02 rubenwardy not sure about auto next
17:02 rubenwardy if you leave the input blank, it runs the last command
17:03 rubenwardy so you can type next and then pressing enter will run next until you type something else
17:03 rubenwardy "next" enter, enter, enter
17:03 rubenwardy also make sure to compile with  -ggdb
17:03 rubenwardy which is on with debug mode usually
17:06 jas_ sofar: i think mod channels are for interacting between client and server mods.  but chat commands are a good way for me to start, and learn how to use them.
17:06 jas_ i can't speak for anyone else
17:06 jas_ right now i'm sending player control bits
17:06 jas_ comparing the latency
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17:16 IhrFussel Is this normal data behvior? https://pastebin.com/XD7FWnGp
17:17 IhrFussel behavior*
17:20 sofar utf strings, don't see anything wrong
17:20 sofar or, garbage pointer
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17:27 IhrFussel gdb only tells me the same as in the chat "m_string = L"2017-10-05 19:21:51: ERROR[ClientConnectionThread]: Huge packet awaited, size: 349198306","
17:29 nerzhul postgresql 10 is out
17:29 nerzhul time to update :D
17:29 IhrFussel nerzhul, is it possible to add some more info about the packet to the client error?
17:29 nerzhul best pgsql release ever
17:29 nerzhul i will do it later
17:30 IhrFussel Alright take your time^^
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17:32 IhrFussel The packet sizes vary a lot.. before it was 3491... now it's 3674...
17:33 nerzhul it depend on what we send to you, it can change it's not fix it depend on server
17:34 IhrFussel But what could create a 350+ MB packet? The entire loaded map maybe? xP
17:38 IhrFussel Rebooting PC
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17:48 nerzhul no no it's the reading problem client side which triggers that
18:02 IhrFussel nerzhul, so the client just *thinks* there will be a huge packet?
18:09 Fixer Calinou: https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreores/pull/27
18:34 Fixer nerzhul: have you looked at "client disconnected" crash?
18:35 nerzhul wait i'm doing a huge production upgrade at work on 70 servers i will talk to you in ~1h :)
18:38 Fixer no rush, if i test, it will not be that deep
18:39 rubenwardy --worldname is so incredibly broken
18:39 Fixer incredible
18:41 rubenwardy > uses sqlite backend
18:41 rubenwardy > creates players dir
18:42 Fixer rubenwardy: it should be empty iirc
18:43 rubenwardy yeah, still
18:44 * rubenwardy install sban
18:44 rubenwardy +s
18:57 sofar rubenwardy: I settled on using systemd units with WorkingDirectory and `--world .`
18:57 sofar which seems failsafe enough
18:57 rubenwardy aah
18:57 sofar ExecStart=/usr/local/bin/minetestserver --world . --config server.conf
18:57 rubenwardy is it possible to make systemd write to a different file on each restart?
18:58 rubenwardy inc crashes
18:58 sofar you mean log output?
18:58 rubenwardy yeah
18:58 sofar I throw it to journal, so nothing is lost
18:58 sofar and I don't need to rotate
18:58 rubenwardy hmmm
18:59 rubenwardy I'll leave it for now
18:59 sofar journalctl -u minetest -af
18:59 sofar etc
19:03 rubenwardy server is taking ages to announce
19:06 rubenwardy any ideas, sfan5?
19:07 rubenwardy rubenwardy.com / 142.4.209.73
19:14 Fixer ohhh
19:14 Fixer journalctl, i remember tons of hate towards it
19:15 Fixer binary vs plain text storage
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19:31 TommyTreasure can someone post either the clone link, or wget link for the latest .04.16.  thanks
19:33 TommyTreasure seems that the github/minetest branches all point to the identical url for clone.
19:35 Krock git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git --depth 1000; git checkout origin/stable-0.4
19:36 Krock and cmake .; make  ofc
19:36 TommyTreasure thank you Krock
19:36 Krock !next
19:36 ShadowBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
19:36 TommyTreasure lol, love the bot!
19:36 Calinou make -j$(nproc)
19:36 Krock <3 shivajiva
19:36 Calinou for automatic CPU thread detection
19:36 Krock <s ShadowBot
19:37 Krock (I can't do it right anyway, so not going to try again)
19:38 Krock Calinou, s/thread/core/
19:38 Krock or not?
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19:43 shivajiva Hi ThomasM
19:44 sfan5 rubenwardy: does it work now?
19:46 rubenwardy no
19:48 sfan5 your ip does not appear in my logs
19:48 sfan5 v6?
19:49 rubenwardy 2607:5300:60:e49::1
19:49 rubenwardy but I haven't enabled it
19:49 rubenwardy if it needs to be in minetest.conf
19:49 sfan5 curl doesn't care about minetest.conf
19:50 Calinou Krock: thread, not core, yes
19:50 sfan5 the announce returned status 202 so everything should be fine
19:50 sfan5 unless your server is somehow not reachable from outside
19:50 rubenwardy I can connect from it here
19:50 rubenwardy not tried ipv6
19:50 sfan5 but it is
19:50 sfan5 rubenwardy.com has IPv6 address 2607:5300:60:e49::1
19:50 sfan5 well duh
19:51 sfan5 if your domain has ipv6 it will try ipv6 to connect to minetest
19:51 sfan5 same will any minetest client
19:51 rubenwardy so I do need  ipv6_server = true
19:51 sfan5 indeed
19:52 rubenwardy added
19:52 rubenwardy and there it is
19:52 rubenwardy thanks
20:07 bigfoot547 Calinou: http://dev.minetest.net/Privileges
20:12 * TommyTreasure is totally confused with the 'git checkout' syntax
20:12 Krock Don't delete. Symlink it
20:12 bigfoot547 To where?
20:12 Krock guess where. to wiki.mintest.net
20:13 bigfoot547 You should probably be in #minetest-doc if you are intrested
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20:18 Fixer REMOVE
20:19 bigfoot547 ~tell Calinou Hey, since you handle the wiki, can you be in #minetest-doc as that's the channel that works on the wiki? Thanx :)
20:19 ShadowBot bigfoot547: O.K.
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20:19 Calinou bigfoot547: done :P
20:20 bigfoot547 Thanx :)
20:20 Calinou by the way, I'm always online on IRC (unless my bouncer is down, which happens very rarely), so you can just send a message here
20:20 bigfoot547 Sorry to bug
20:20 Calinou I've been using a bouncer for 1.5 years now :)
20:20 Calinou it's alright, you can highlight me anytime, it doesn't bother me
20:20 bigfoot547 Okay, thanks :)
20:20 Calinou as in, it doesn't wake me up if I'm asleep :P
20:21 bigfoot547 I see
20:21 Krock groups = { bouncy = 1, not_in_creative_inventory = 1 }  -- bouncer definition
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20:22 TommyTreasure Krock, seems like the 'checkout' line was incorrect  :(
20:22 Fixer Calinou: https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreores/pull/27
20:23 Krock TommyTreasure, well then git fetch origin; git checkout origin/stable-0.4
20:23 TommyTreasure i'll give it a try
20:24 Calinou Fixer: :D I need to test this locally a bit, first
20:25 Calinou then I can see if it can be merged, then release 1.0.1
20:26 TommyTreasure fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
20:26 Fixer Calinou: thanks
20:26 TommyTreasure i get that with both methods
20:26 Calinou TommyTreasure: did you "cd" into the repository folder first?
20:26 Krock TommyTreasure, thanks for giving me this error line earlier. /s  cd minetest
20:27 Calinou I'm not sure if you can use "git checkout" with --depth, too
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20:27 Krock Calinou, doing that all the time here.. works. But I never checked how deep the history really goes
20:28 TommyTreasure i'm trying to get the latest .16 or .17, with _game, for manual compile on a slack box
20:28 TommyTreasure would prefer .16-stable, but i think .17 would work too
20:29 Calinou you can get just a .zip archive too, it's faster
20:29 Fixer sfan5: can you consider publishing your useful gist scripts on your github (like this one https://gist.github.com/sfan5/3c04c625453ec95c6a6df4d7e2c05885)
20:29 Calinou https://github.com/minetest/minetest/archive/0.4.16.zip
20:29 Calinou https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/archive/0.4.16.zip
20:30 Fixer sfan5: in repositories section
20:31 TommyTreasure Calinou, perfect!  ty
20:32 Krock applying occasional patches will however be painful with no git history
20:32 TommyTreasure someday, i'll learn how to use git
20:34 Shara TommyTreasure: it is worth the time :)
20:35 TommyTreasure too many other things on my learning curve highway at the moment.  :)
20:36 Calinou it's been 5 years since I learned to use Git :D
20:36 TommyTreasure hey now, give an old man a break!  lol
20:36 TommyTreasure just passed my latest milestone yesterday
20:37 ThomasMonroe whats that?
20:37 Calinou birthday?
20:37 ThomasMonroe car?
20:37 TommyTreasure i'm at the point where i can remember what i did when i was 10, but can't remember what i did yesterday
20:37 sfan5 Fixer: i can consider yes
20:37 ThomasMonroe heh
20:37 TommyTreasure birthday -- 67 years of pumping blood!
20:38 Calinou heh
20:38 Calinou this month, I celebrate the 10 years of playing Sauerbraten for the first time
20:38 ThomasMonroe O.O i didnt know you were, erm that uhh old
20:38 Krock TommyTreasure, be happy. Soon you'll meet new people all the time. (contains black humour)
20:38 Calinou I was 9 when I discovered that game :D
20:39 TommyTreasure Krock, i'm already doing that every friday night at rehearsals
20:39 Krock outch :<
20:40 TommyTreasure lol.  just last month i showed up at a show, and realized i had forgotten my bass amp.
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20:41 TommyTreasure luckily, the sound crew had a direct box for me.  got through the gig
20:51 Fixer i don't really celebrate, but I really need to finish doom1/doom2 despite the fact i've played it decades ago
20:52 nerzhul back
20:52 nerzhul pfiou this operator was long in production :p
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21:05 rubenwardy Playing 1v1 on CTF
21:09 Krock player versus server
21:10 Krock rubenwardy, 2017-10-05 23:09:46: ERROR[CurlFetch]: https://minetest.rubenwardy.com/ctf/wool_yellow.png not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 503)
21:10 rubenwardy heh
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21:21 nerzhul Fixer, IhrFussel i published a new commit in the PR for the resource cleanup
21:21 nerzhul it will drop the rare crash on disconnection/shutodnw
21:22 IhrFussel Will it also fix the huge packets or not yet?
21:24 IhrFussel In casee no  and if possible maybe add to the "huge packet awaited" error more info about those supposed packets?
21:24 nerzhul not yet
21:24 nerzhul i need to reproduce it myself because you cannot help me, i really need timeframe debugging
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21:44 Krock gg rubenwardy
21:44 rubenwardy lol
21:44 rubenwardy I'm a bit terrible at CTF
21:44 Fixer nerzhul: what about that client disconnected thing?
21:44 Shara Hehe
21:44 nerzhul Fixer, which ?
21:44 Shara That was fun :)
21:44 Krock network lag and movement prediction is your friend
21:44 rubenwardy I'd like to try and make it less about clicking loads, and less internet dependent
21:44 Fixer nerzhul: crash with "player disconnecteD"
21:45 nerzhul client or server crash ?
21:45 Fixer nerzhul: when starting local game and when connecting to your server
21:46 nerzhul you have that problem everytime ?
21:47 nerzhul did you update your local repository with latest fresh sources ?
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21:47 Fixer nerzhul: had it on "Forget to protect UDP callback, but also factorize lambda between UDP"
21:48 nerzhul Fixer, update to latest and tell me
21:48 nerzhul what is your compiler?
21:48 Fixer gcc 7.2 on mingw
21:49 nerzhul ok i hope it's not mingw
21:49 nerzhul i have another commit now
21:49 Fixer i even posted pastebin somewhere
21:50 Fixer ok
21:50 Fixer will recompile
21:50 Fixer now
21:51 Fixer reminder for myself: git clone -b network_asio git://github.com/nerzhul/minetest.git
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22:13 IhrFussel Compiling newest commit now
22:13 nerzhul IhrFussel, i pushed another ocmmit now
22:13 nerzhul it's also on disconnection
22:13 nerzhul i have added a failsafe when header read is wrong, i forgot it
22:14 IhrFussel I'm compiling "Disconnect user/client when header reading doesn't permits to read 4 bytes" now
22:14 nerzhul use next pr
22:14 nerzhul i pushed it 3 mins ago
22:15 IhrFussel Got it
22:20 nerzhul if you now got the new errorstream i added i may have and idea
22:20 Fixer compiling debug builds ofc
22:20 nerzhul i will go to bed :)
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22:35 Fixer !tell nerzhul still client disconnected error
22:35 ShadowBot Fixer: O.K.
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22:43 IhrFussel !tell nerzhul I just got the new error message "Reading header with less than 4 bytes"
22:43 ShadowBot IhrFussel: O.K.
22:52 IhrFussel Fixer, Did you receive that error yet?
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23:18 Fixer IhrFussel: no, can't test it pretty much, gives instant "client disconnected" error
23:19 Fixer postponed all testing
23:23 IhrFussel Ouh...OS?
23:23 Fixer win7
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