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rdococ |
WTF... minetest terrain generation is just getting weirder and weirder |
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| 08:49 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 09:07 |
VanessaE |
morning, tenplus1 |
| 09:07 |
tenplus1 |
hi Vanessa |
| 09:22 |
shivajiva |
Good morning tenplus, Vanessa :) |
| 09:22 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 09:22 |
tenplus1 |
hi shiva |
| 09:23 |
tenplus1 |
my tnt pulls got an ok although the spelling of centre seems to be an issue now |
| 09:23 |
shivajiva |
LOL |
| 09:23 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 09:23 |
tenplus1 |
even though it appears in teh code and documentation with that exact spelling many MANY times |
| 09:23 |
tenplus1 |
o.O |
| 09:23 |
VanessaE |
you euros and your extra u's and swapped e/r :) |
| 09:24 |
tenplus1 |
lol, am not in Euro anymore |
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| 09:25 |
shivajiva |
if it's spelt the correct way more than the Americanism then you should stick with it tenplus |
| 09:25 |
VanessaE |
I was kidding, tenplus1 :) |
| 09:26 |
VanessaE |
shivajiva: you have /msgs waiting :P |
| 09:26 |
tenplus1 |
oh I will :) unless they change all of the current 'centre' references at the same time |
| 09:27 |
shivajiva |
Oh the 'he's a coward' even though I stood up...seen it, expected it, laughing at it :) |
| 09:27 |
tenplus1 |
? |
| 09:30 |
paramat |
i did github searches for both spellings, the USA spelling is used much more often in the code, docs don't count |
| 09:30 |
paramat |
that's the only reason |
| 09:31 |
tenplus1 |
for me it feels more like the appropriate word and unless every reference is changed to 'center' I'll keep it as is |
| 09:38 |
paramat |
i'm english and also prefer english spelling of words, and MT is more european than north american, but code consistency is more important :] |
| 09:41 |
tenplus1 |
exactly, so until ALL references are the same within the code/docs I'll keep my choice... am not doing this to annoy you, it simply feels the right word to use for that setting paramat |
| 09:42 |
shivajiva |
perhaps a separate pr to align the 'dodgy' ones is in order |
| 09:43 |
tenplus1 |
we have 5 pages full of them: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=centre&type= |
| 09:44 |
tenplus1 |
and a mere 4 of the other spelling |
| 09:54 |
paramat |
the uses of 'centre' are mostly comments, not code |
| 09:55 |
paramat |
and mostly translation docs for comments, duplicating the search results |
| 09:55 |
tenplus1 |
if it's used in comments to denote the middle of something then I'm using the right word |
| 09:55 |
paramat |
no, because it's code that counts, docs and comments can be trivially changed without breakage |
| 09:56 |
tenplus1 |
dude, it's my code that counts and it's already documented properly, why are we pushing this ? |
| 09:57 |
Raven262 |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 09:57 |
tenplus1 |
hi raven o/ |
| 09:59 |
paramat |
i've explained already, code consistency, but it's ok you don't have to change it if you don't want to, i'm just explaining the reasons so you can consider :] |
| 09:59 |
tenplus1 |
in my head: community center .... centre of the explosion |
| 10:00 |
paramat |
hi jas_ you have voice |
| 10:01 |
jas_ |
How do you spell centered? Hi and thanks paramat |
| 10:02 |
jas_ |
Or when youre centering something? What if it was centered? Just curious. |
| 10:02 |
tenplus1 |
centred. adj. 1. placed or situated in the centre |
| 10:02 |
jas_ |
Thats called a penny |
| 10:02 |
jas_ |
Lol jk : ) |
| 10:03 |
jas_ |
So what about 'color'? |
| 10:03 |
tenplus1 |
colour here |
| 10:03 |
jas_ |
140 plus instances of color |
| 10:03 |
jas_ |
How many for colour? |
| 10:04 |
jas_ |
The spelling literally isnt the point |
| 10:06 |
jas_ |
Only that one is chosen over the other and i have never seen colour or centre in minetest |
| 10:07 |
jas_ |
Also it seems to me software uses en-us. To be frank. |
| 10:07 |
tenplus1 |
41 instances of 'centre' and 36 instances or 'center' |
| 10:07 |
jas_ |
And how many for colour? Versus color |
| 10:08 |
tenplus1 |
color is the only one uses, so US-eng there |
| 10:08 |
tenplus1 |
although centre vs center.. both are used globally |
| 10:08 |
jas_ |
I see. |
| 10:10 |
jas_ |
I hadnt heard that before ten but i believe it |
| 10:11 |
jas_ |
I take issue with being picky on the one word tho. Color is ok but center is not? |
| 10:12 |
jas_ |
What about meter? (Metre) |
| 10:12 |
tenplus1 |
metre is international, meter is american |
| 10:13 |
jas_ |
"If you're going to split hairs, I'm going to piss off." |
| 10:13 |
tenplus1 |
who said that ? |
| 10:13 |
jas_ |
Lol |
| 10:13 |
jas_ |
Eric idle |
| 10:13 |
tenplus1 |
ahh, good old eric |
| 10:13 |
jas_ |
: D |
| 10:13 |
jas_ |
Bbfn gl hf |
| 10:13 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
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| 10:24 |
tenplus1 |
hi Krock |
| 10:24 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 10:27 |
tenplus1 |
*sigh* 'improvement needed' flag on git... seems I'm not getting away with using my own language choice |
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tenplus1 |
hi rdococ |
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| 10:43 |
tenplus1 |
hi DI3HARD139 |
| 10:44 |
DI3HARD139 |
Hello |
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| 10:51 |
tenplus1 |
hi fixer |
| 10:52 |
Fixer |
hi |
| 10:54 |
rdococ |
hi |
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| 11:28 |
tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
| 11:48 |
rdococ |
hi |
| 11:49 |
Raven262 |
tenplus1, which nodes can't be destroyed by these dungeon master things on Xanadu? |
| 11:49 |
Raven262 |
My whole city is being partially demolished by their raids every time. |
| 11:50 |
tenplus1 |
anything with on_blast = function() end, |
| 11:50 |
Raven262 |
Great. |
| 11:50 |
tenplus1 |
I've overridden cloud blocks and stairs with it so they cant be destroyed |
| 11:50 |
Raven262 |
Stairs you say? |
| 11:50 |
Raven262 |
Any stairs? |
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| 11:51 |
tenplus1 |
default:cloud and cloud stairs |
| 11:51 |
tenplus1 |
hi lisac |
| 11:51 |
Raven262 |
ah |
| 11:51 |
rdococ |
Cloud stairs? |
| 11:51 |
tenplus1 |
heh yeah, I added cloud stairs and glass to Xanadu for admin use :P |
| 11:57 |
lisac |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 11:57 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
| 11:57 |
lisac |
tenplus1, can you please add blast resistant materials on Xanadu? |
| 11:57 |
lisac |
at least obisidian |
| 11:58 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, I'll override obdidian block and brick... |
| 11:59 |
lisac |
and obisidian slopes |
| 12:00 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 12:00 |
tenplus1 |
I may have to update stairs redo so it works with custom functions :P |
| 12:01 |
lisac |
also, can we get another account to our network, tenplus1? |
| 12:01 |
tenplus1 |
will do obsidian obsidianbrick and obsidian_block for now |
| 12:01 |
lisac |
a friend wants to join xanadu |
| 12:01 |
lisac |
but can't register due to 3 name limit |
| 12:02 |
tenplus1 |
on your ip ? |
| 12:02 |
lisac |
yes |
| 12:03 |
tenplus1 |
k, ask them to try now |
| 12:03 |
lisac |
okay, thanks :D |
| 12:04 |
tenplus1 |
I use to have an unbreakable group for nodes that cannot get blown up but TNT mod doesnt adhere to that... |
| 12:05 |
lisac |
it's more for the mobs |
| 12:06 |
tenplus1 |
also remember if the area is protected then mob explosions dont damage anything |
| 12:10 |
lisac |
tenplus1, that doesn't sound right |
| 12:11 |
tenplus1 |
it's set so that mob damage doesnt occur inside protected areas, but they will stil hurt players/other mobs |
| 12:14 |
rdococ |
moo. |
| 12:14 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe hi rdococ |
| 12:15 |
rdococ |
Yay. |
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tenplus1 |
wb |
| 14:38 |
tenplus1 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1844 |
| 14:53 |
sfan5 |
tenplus1: IMO explode_middle is not as precise as explode_center |
| 14:53 |
sfan5 |
like it doesn't sound so nice |
| 14:53 |
tenplus1 |
it saves complaint over spelling |
| 14:53 |
sfan5 |
there's no need for complaints, just use the american spelling |
| 14:53 |
tenplus1 |
which doesnt look right to me |
| 14:54 |
tenplus1 |
once all of the word 'centre' has been changed to 'center' in the code and comments and docs then I'll change |
| 14:55 |
Shara |
Ther eis no need for documents to be consistent with code |
| 14:55 |
Shara |
There is* |
| 14:56 |
Shara |
Documentation just needs to be consistent within itself |
| 14:56 |
Shara |
Can't devs just adjust the name when merging anyway? |
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| 14:57 |
tenplus1 |
hi tumeni |
| 14:57 |
tumeninodes |
you just scared the bejeseus outta me hehe Hi tenplus1 |
| 14:57 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 14:58 |
tumeninodes |
I never turned my speakers down from a movie last night |
| 14:58 |
tenplus1 |
eek |
| 14:58 |
Shara |
I know small details of my PRs have been changed when they were merged before... so it just seems wasteful for a fuss to be made about it when it can simply be changed then. |
| 15:00 |
tumeninodes |
I have been following this for a few minutes using a sports commentator voice in my head. "And ten goes on the offensive... sfan5 goes around the outside and throws a pass to paramat!!!... the game intesifies :D |
| 15:01 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 15:01 |
Krock |
tenplus1, there's no "explode_middle" param for "tnt.boom", like your commit suggests |
| 15:01 |
Krock |
it's within the TNT definition |
| 15:02 |
Shara |
I'm "a brit", so based on what celeron55 says, I don't get a say, but that's funny since I'm generally in favour of using US spellings for something like this :P |
| 15:02 |
Krock |
there's also a "def.explosion_centre" leftover, which definitely is outdated |
| 15:02 |
tenplus1 |
I changed pull to add explode_middle |
| 15:02 |
Shara |
Mostly I'm just in favour of consistency though |
| 15:05 |
tenplus1 |
Krock: does it appear now... travis was working on it |
| 15:06 |
tumeninodes |
I'm from the Boston, Massachusetts/USA area where everyone says "cena" = centre/center. For consistency the rule is "assimilate ...or die" |
| 15:06 |
tenplus1 |
lol tumeni... |
| 15:07 |
Krock |
tenplus1, yes, the new commit arrived but the docs are still wrong :< |
| 15:08 |
Krock |
tumeninodes, Resistance is futile. You'll be assimilated" |
| 15:08 |
tenplus1 |
docs ? those were changed |
| 15:08 |
tumeninodes |
Hi Krock, haha |
| 15:09 |
tenplus1 |
game_api.txt shows change here |
| 15:09 |
Krock |
tenplus1, indeed changed but for the params of "tnt.boom" |
| 15:09 |
Krock |
instaed of the TNT definition |
| 15:10 |
tenplus1 |
I accounted for that... |
| 15:10 |
tenplus1 |
`definition` The TNT definion as passed to `tnt.register` with the following addition: |
| 15:10 |
Krock |
tumeninodes, that's not funny. However, I wonder how a Borg vs Daleks war would end (would it end?) |
| 15:10 |
tenplus1 |
`explode_middle` false by default which removes TNT node on blast, when true will explode centre node. |
| 15:10 |
tenplus1 |
when calling tnt.boom you can use the same definition with the following addition of the 'explode_middle' flag |
| 15:10 |
Krock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1844/files#diff-8eb62e836e64c72a439c178d35c178a8R290 |
| 15:11 |
Krock |
that's where the param should be added |
| 15:11 |
Krock |
as it's not limited to the tnt.boom function |
| 15:11 |
tenplus1 |
but it isnt used within regoster_tnt at all |
| 15:11 |
tenplus1 |
if you make a tnt block whats the point of keeping the centre node and exploding middle ? |
| 15:12 |
tenplus1 |
as soon as you explode it the tnt:boom node will be there so it'll never be in use |
| 15:12 |
tenplus1 |
'explode_middle' will only ever be in use when you call tnt:boom itself |
| 15:12 |
tumeninodes |
Krock, thanks now my day is going to be stuck in an existential abyss |
| 15:14 |
Krock |
tenplus1, but what about https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/tnt/init.lua#L604 |
| 15:14 |
tumeninodes |
afk |
| 15:15 |
Krock |
so you only want to make the centre of the initial "boom node" configurable? |
| 15:15 |
tenplus1 |
that doesnt count... like I said explode'middle will never be in use with an actual tnt block that's registered... only ever when tnt.boom is used in 3rd partty mod |
| 15:16 |
tenplus1 |
if you use it when registereing tnt block it'll constantly call on_blast and go into a loop |
| 15:17 |
Krock |
in this case it would be a proper solution to pass this as a 3rd argument. Otherwise there are kinda two different TNT definitions. a basic one with the current params plus an extended for tnt.boom, which allows rescuing the centre |
| 15:17 |
Shara |
And xban db corrupt yet again :( |
| 15:17 |
Krock |
backups! |
| 15:18 |
Shara |
Krock: I do, but I'm still tired of it corrupting |
| 15:18 |
tenplus1 |
that's over complicating the pull, it's meant for use with 3rd party mobs and to stop the loops |
| 15:18 |
Shara |
It happens far too often. |
| 15:18 |
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| 15:19 |
tenplus1 |
hi Megaf |
| 15:19 |
behalebabo |
Shara: how does it corrupt? database is blank? |
| 15:19 |
Megaf |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 15:19 |
Shara |
Eats itself |
| 15:19 |
Megaf |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCsvLDjdOdo |
| 15:19 |
Megaf |
!title |
| 15:19 |
ShadowBot |
Megaf: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 4KB. |
| 15:19 |
Megaf |
"15 inch Subwoofer vs 60,000 PSI Waterjet" |
| 15:19 |
Krock |
so function tnt.boom(pos, def, explode_centre) isn't an option? |
| 15:20 |
Krock |
ψψψ PSI ψψψ |
| 15:20 |
Raven262 |
𓆣 |
| 15:20 |
behalebabo |
Shara: there is an easy fix for this, modify xban to write the database to a temporary file (say, DB_FILENAME .. '.tmp' for example), then use os.rename to atomically rename it like os.rename(DB_FILENAME .. '.tmp', DB_FILENAME) |
| 15:20 |
Shara |
I have something set up to make a backup, then check the size of the current xban.db to the back up at regular intervals, but it seems I don't catch it quickly enough, since the most recent backups generally also turn out to be corrupt |
| 15:20 |
tenplus1 |
no |
| 15:20 |
tenplus1 |
it's within the def table |
| 15:21 |
Krock |
...but.. |
| 15:21 |
behalebabo |
of course, I'm assuming the corruption occurs during saving here |
| 15:21 |
Raven262 |
A question: Which one of these things in the oredef makes the ore spawn less? |
| 15:21 |
behalebabo |
if it's a bug in other parts of the mod, I don't know a solution |
| 15:21 |
Shara |
Last time this happened, I had to go back a month in the end to prevent it corrupting after another couple of days |
| 15:21 |
Krock |
Raven262, all of them can be used |
| 15:21 |
Shara |
Then it corrupted after.. a think two weeks anyway |
| 15:21 |
Shara |
I think* |
| 15:21 |
Raven262 |
What do i use to make one node spawn rarely? |
| 15:22 |
Raven262 |
I need only one node, not a cluster |
| 15:22 |
Krock |
clust_scarcity = 8*8*8, |
| 15:22 |
Raven262 |
and for it to be really rare |
| 15:22 |
Krock |
change to something higher, like 16*16*16 |
| 15:22 |
Raven262 |
i placed 25 |
| 15:22 |
tenplus1 |
Raven262: increase clust_scarity number or reduce clust_num_ores |
| 15:22 |
Raven262 |
i did both |
| 15:22 |
Raven262 |
clust_num_ores is 1 |
| 15:22 |
Krock |
clust_num_ores = 1 will only generate single ores, instead of multiple next to each other |
| 15:22 |
Raven262 |
and clust_scracity is 25 |
| 15:23 |
Raven262 |
Thanks, i wasn't sure of that. |
| 15:23 |
Krock |
23*25*25? |
| 15:23 |
tenplus1 |
25*25*25 ? |
| 15:23 |
Raven262 |
yes |
| 15:23 |
Krock |
ninjas... |
| 15:23 |
Raven262 |
So what does clust_scrarcity affect? |
| 15:23 |
Krock |
you could also set the limits from Y -1024 to -1030 but that'd be a quite strange ore |
| 15:24 |
tenplus1 |
the chance of a cluster appearing in that generated mapblock |
| 15:24 |
Krock |
"- ^ Ore has a 1 out of clust_scarcity chance of spawning in a node" |
| 15:24 |
Raven262 |
nice |
| 15:24 |
Raven262 |
Well, that solves my problem then, thanks :) |
| 15:24 |
Krock |
!next |
| 15:24 |
ShadowBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
| 15:24 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 15:30 |
lisac |
You are my favorite costumer! |
| 15:31 |
lisac |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghp6GQTIvQA |
| 15:32 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 15:34 |
tumeninodes |
why lisac? .... why!? |
| 15:34 |
lisac |
:P |
| 15:34 |
lisac |
anyways, people made open AI for DOTA2 |
| 15:34 |
lisac |
and got is so good at learning |
| 15:35 |
lisac |
it defeated all 3 top players in single combat |
| 15:35 |
lisac |
https://blog.openai.com/dota-2/ |
| 15:35 |
tenplus1 |
saw that... looked good |
| 15:35 |
lisac |
even Elon Musk commented |
| 15:35 |
lisac |
which means, Elon Musk watches the international! |
| 15:35 |
tumeninodes |
Elon Musk is watching.... "everything" (even you) |
| 15:36 |
rubenwardy |
lol, Shara and tenplus1 disagree on american english |
| 15:36 |
tenplus1 |
hi ruben |
| 15:36 |
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| 15:36 |
rubenwardy |
let us british join forces and free ourselves from our opproessors! |
| 15:36 |
rubenwardy |
oh wait.... |
| 15:37 |
jas_ |
rofl |
| 15:37 |
rubenwardy |
for too long has a far away country determined our use of language |
| 15:37 |
tumeninodes |
I despise American English, and I'm American. I even say aluminium foil (mostly because it annoys my kids) |
| 15:37 |
tenplus1 |
heh |
| 15:37 |
jas_ |
wait i do too, but didn't think anything of it. |
| 15:38 |
tumeninodes |
ha |
| 15:38 |
lisac |
oh hai Elon |
| 15:38 |
rubenwardy |
it's more consistent |
| 15:38 |
rubenwardy |
with eg: potassium |
| 15:38 |
tumeninodes |
Mericanz is lazee |
| 15:38 |
lisac |
tumeninodes, I despise english. Everyone should learn Serbian. It's so much easier |
| 15:38 |
Shara |
rubenwardy: http://gingercat.tk/pics/08.jpg |
| 15:39 |
lisac |
and you can find so many ways to actually swear without triggering filters |
| 15:39 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 15:39 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 15:39 |
rubenwardy |
was that by your friend, Shara? Or is it just an internet thing |
| 15:39 |
lisac |
Shara, It's over! |
| 15:39 |
tumeninodes |
must learn |
| 15:39 |
Shara |
brb sorry |
| 15:39 |
lisac |
I've got the high ground |
| 15:39 |
lisac |
or the grammar cat got it |
| 15:40 |
tenplus1 |
the whole reason I changed the word completely to something safer :D |
| 15:40 |
paramat |
Raven262 clust_scarcity is the average number of 'wherein' nodes you need to dig to find a single ore 'cluster' |
| 15:40 |
lisac |
paramat, how do you know? You weren't there. |
| 15:41 |
lisac |
and no I am not referencing a shitty vietnam movie |
| 15:41 |
lisac |
oh you are looking through the logs |
| 15:41 |
Raven262 |
So, the greater the number the rarer the ore? |
| 15:41 |
tumeninodes |
paramt and Elon are one |
| 15:41 |
paramat |
it's written like 8*8*8 because that shows that the average separation of ore clusters is 8 nodes. so choose your desired cluster separation and use 's*s*s' |
| 15:42 |
Raven262 |
Ah, got it, thanks. |
| 15:52 |
tenplus1 |
what ore are you playing with ? |
| 15:54 |
Shara |
rubenwardy: Sorry for slow answer. Was busy being annoyed on the phone by my ISP :P |
| 15:54 |
Shara |
But all the pics cats are drawn by someone I know. |
| 15:54 |
Shara |
That one just felt.. appropriate :P |
| 15:54 |
tenplus1 |
heh |
| 15:54 |
Shara |
I absolutely hate US english by the way; it's just that me hating it isn't a reason not to use it. |
| 15:55 |
Shara |
(grammar cat was based on me :P) |
| 15:56 |
Shara |
But for documentation/comments, with very few exceptions, when I've written something or done editing, what people care about is consistency more than which english things are in. |
| 16:04 |
tenplus1 |
and consistency is achieved by stating rules offhand |
| 16:06 |
tumeninodes |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMGPYrDAfM8 |
| 16:07 |
Raven262 |
Its not an ore, tenplus1. |
| 16:07 |
Raven262 |
Well, techically it is. |
| 16:07 |
tenplus1 |
special node for schematic placement ? |
| 16:07 |
Raven262 |
But anyways, you'll se in about an hour when i update my mod :) |
| 16:08 |
Raven262 |
No, that would lag :P |
| 16:08 |
Raven262 |
*see |
| 16:08 |
tenplus1 |
heh |
| 16:08 |
lisac |
tenplus1, Xanadu lags a bit right now |
| 16:09 |
lisac |
for some reason |
| 16:09 |
lisac |
or, at least it lagged |
| 16:09 |
tenplus1 |
yeh, we hav a few players using bogus clients, that seems to lag things |
| 16:09 |
Raven262 |
lisac, our connection lags right now, idk why. |
| 16:09 |
tenplus1 |
if everyone was on minetest it'd be sitting at 0.3 |
| 16:10 |
lisac |
why not kick the new guests? |
| 16:10 |
tenplus1 |
will persist with them until 0.5.0 release then I force players to update |
| 16:16 |
lisac |
tenplus1, can plants grow underground? |
| 16:17 |
tenplus1 |
yeah if you have a light level of 13+ |
| 16:17 |
tenplus1 |
meselamp or post |
| 16:18 |
lisac |
great, thanks :D |
| 16:26 |
lisac |
how do i tame horses, tenplus1? sorry for tons of questions |
| 16:26 |
tenplus1 |
:) that's ok... 8x wheat |
| 16:26 |
lisac |
okay :D |
| 16:26 |
tenplus1 |
yea, 8x wheat or 8x apple |
| 16:26 |
tenplus1 |
sorry 10x |
| 16:26 |
paramat |
either mese light, but it needs to be a face-connected neighbour, not a diagonal neighbour |
| 16:44 |
tenplus1 |
paramat: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1844 |
| 16:55 |
Raven262 |
tenplus1, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18186 |
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paramat |
aw thanks |
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Megaf |
oh no, bad contact in the wire inside my earphone |
| 19:17 |
Megaf |
its less than one year old |
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Jordach |
Megaf, don't buy Megaf Chi-Fi |
| 20:01 |
Jordach |
Megaf, https://i.redditmedia.com/vnYYezLHAEFIuIwH7eXLImUmhPwdn8NFI-pjOfdOc9Y.jpg?w=695&s=1628bcf8a7928d3d783d8bcb431f6d05 |
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rubenwardy |
<+rubenwardy> please can we lock the modding questions topic, and encourage people to make individual topics? |
| 20:20 |
rubenwardy |
<+rubenwardy> It makes it considerably easier for people to find the answer to their questions |
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| 20:26 |
Fixer |
Jordach: they are all chinese, buyer of headphones should also buy soldering station |
| 20:27 |
Fixer |
fuck, even chinese teapot is piece of shit, fucking teapot... Karl |
| 20:28 |
Fixer |
like 2 years and it is done |
| 20:28 |
Fixer |
how is this possible? |
| 20:28 |
Fixer |
how they degenerated to this? |
| 20:28 |
rubenwardy |
because people buy it |
| 20:29 |
rubenwardy |
they're very good at making things cheap |
| 20:29 |
Fixer |
i probably was not clear, teapot = that metal thing for heating water %) |
| 20:29 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 20:30 |
Fixer |
we call it like teapot here |
| 20:30 |
rubenwardy |
electricless kettle |
| 20:30 |
Fixer |
no |
| 20:30 |
Fixer |
for gas |
| 20:30 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 20:30 |
Fixer |
oh lol |
| 20:30 |
Fixer |
that name |
| 20:30 |
rubenwardy |
for us, a teapot is for storing already made tea |
| 20:30 |
Fixer |
good I made clarification |
| 20:30 |
rubenwardy |
even better |
| 20:30 |
rubenwardy |
an electricless metal kettle |
| 20:31 |
rubenwardy |
if you google metal kettle, the old gas ones come up |
| 20:31 |
rubenwardy |
well, as well as electric ones |
| 20:31 |
Fixer |
an electricless kettle lasts for few years only, ceramic teapot for storing tea is ok |
| 20:32 |
Fixer |
these days everything is chinisium and quality is gamble |
| 20:32 |
rubenwardy |
what is the teapot is china but made in England? |
| 20:32 |
Fixer |
i'm expecting electricless metal kettle too last like 50 years... |
| 20:32 |
Fixer |
probably too old school |
| 20:32 |
rubenwardy |
why is china called china, is it from China |
| 20:33 |
Fixer |
here in East Europe there are "brands" that say like it is totally from UK or Germany but it is a big lie, it is made in china (PRC) |
| 20:33 |
Fixer |
China* |
| 20:34 |
rubenwardy |
China china, Polish polish |
| 20:34 |
Fixer |
eventually that companies were forced to disclose that info |
| 20:34 |
rubenwardy |
polish your China china with Polish polish |
| 20:34 |
Fixer |
chinisium (tm)(r) |
| 20:34 |
Fixer |
those* |
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Megaf |
Jordach, they are sony |
| 20:38 |
Fixer |
fuck, I have headphones from pre 1990 era, and you can kill someone with them, in 2017 - it is chinisium shit that breaks in half or fucking wires again because you touched it wrong way |
| 20:39 |
Megaf |
my is the in year type... |
| 20:39 |
Megaf |
And I sleep with them everyday |
| 20:40 |
Megaf |
I must use them like 16 hours per day |
| 20:40 |
Jordach |
Megaf, my huge ass AKG monitors aren't made of Chinesium |
| 20:41 |
Megaf |
Jordach, try sleeping with them |
| 20:41 |
Megaf |
and they are not noise isolating |
| 20:44 |
Jordach |
Megaf, my studios with Pleather and Velour are |
| 20:45 |
Megaf |
Jordach, but I will be buying a chinese earphone now |
| 20:45 |
Megaf |
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XSS4TQN/ref=twister_B06XSX3BLR?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 |
| 20:45 |
Megaf |
Jordach, 0.01 dollar |
| 20:49 |
Megaf |
nah, will buy nah |
| 20:52 |
paramat |
Fixer, language please :] |
| 21:16 |
Fixer |
Sale: $0.01 + $5.99 shipping |
| 21:16 |
Fixer |
lolol |
| 21:17 |
Fixer |
This item does not ship to Ukraine |
| 21:17 |
Fixer |
okay |
| 21:20 |
Fixer |
nobody buys them? |
| 21:21 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach, what happened to your builtin rewrite? |
| 21:22 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, tl;dr ended up possibly playing MC again |
| 21:22 |
rubenwardy |
lool |
| 21:22 |
Fixer |
possibly |
| 21:23 |
Jordach |
Fixer, it's might have eaten 12GB of RAM |
| 21:24 |
Fixer |
i'm currently playing on mc beta 1.7.3 multiplayer server |
| 21:25 |
Fixer |
with towny and stuff |
| 21:25 |
Fixer |
pve |
| 21:38 |
Megaf |
Fixer, theres others that are super cheap |
| 21:44 |
Fixer |
and supercrap |
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rdococ |
Fixer: SUPER CRAP! SUPER CRAP! Does whatever a super can...wait. :P |
| 21:51 |
Fixer |
"Researchers report >4,000 apps that secretly record audio and steal logs" |
| 21:51 |
Fixer |
A N D R O I D |
| 21:51 |
rubenwardy |
both require permissions |
| 21:52 |
rubenwardy |
so, PEBKAC |
| 21:52 |
rubenwardy |
well, the first definitely does |
| 21:52 |
rubenwardy |
on newer APIs you need to explicity ask the user in app using a permission grant dialog |
| 21:53 |
Jordach |
Android 7 is fancy af |
| 21:53 |
Jordach |
my OEM Wileyfox has Nougat + monthly patches |
| 21:53 |
Jordach |
roommates S8+ does not recieve such nice things |
| 22:00 |
Fixer |
Android 2 |
| 22:05 |
Fixer |
what impressed me even in MC beta is how far player activity is visible |
| 22:07 |
Fixer |
example: https://i.imgur.com/uObvzFo.png |
| 22:55 |
* rubenwardy |
wished Lua had optional chaining |
| 22:55 |
* rubenwardy |
wishes Lua had optionals |
| 22:59 |
rubenwardy |
Which do you prefer? https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/1f6f9db0997235eb8537b871d9c5ce34 |
| 23:01 |
shivajiva |
obv b |
| 23:06 |
VanessaE |
is it possible to "unregister" a leaf decay registration? |
| 23:07 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/functions.lua#L369 |
| 23:07 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
| 23:08 |
rubenwardy |
you need to override all the trunks and leafs to remove callbacks |
| 23:08 |
VanessaE |
oh it's a straight overwrite eh? |
| 23:08 |
VanessaE |
ok. |
| 23:08 |
rubenwardy |
copy that linked function, and instead of adding the function set it to nil |
| 23:09 |
shivajiva |
without the helper text it wouldn't have made sense whereas option a will always be easy to follow |
| 23:10 |
rubenwardy |
once you know the language it's quite easy to follow |
| 23:10 |
rubenwardy |
also, with optionals it won't compile if you miss out the ? |
| 23:12 |
shivajiva |
:) |
| 23:25 |
rubenwardy |
I wonder what the record is for most old PRs and Issues bumped in one day |
| 23:25 |
rubenwardy |
probably when "enhancement" was removed |
| 23:26 |
shivajiva |
what was enhancement? |
| 23:26 |
rubenwardy |
it was a label that was decided to be pointles |
| 23:26 |
rubenwardy |
as in, every PR should be an enhancement |
| 23:26 |
shivajiva |
ah lol |
| 23:26 |
rubenwardy |
it's a default GH label, which is why it existed |
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