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| 02:28 |
garywhite |
My client just crashed for no reason (0.4.16 on a 0.4.15 server) |
| 02:34 |
garywhite |
It just said (Not Responding) |
| 02:35 |
garywhite |
& then Windows said it had stopped responding, then the window just closed itself |
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garywhite |
Like everything in Windows crashes |
| 03:03 |
benrob0329 |
Everyone does realise that offtopic is just as cancerous as before, right? |
| 03:03 |
benrob0329 |
VanessaE, sfan5, Calinou |
| 03:04 |
VanessaE |
zzz |
| 03:04 |
benrob0329 |
Lol |
| 03:05 |
benrob0329 |
Perhaps you could appoint some people to be offtopic moderators |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
I have no such authority |
| 03:05 |
benrob0329 |
Keep it under control |
| 03:05 |
kaeza |
celeron55, ^ |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
I can delete posts and such, but I don't police offtopic if I can possibly avoid it |
| 03:05 |
benrob0329 |
( celeron55 ) |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
I'd like to keep my sanity :P |
| 03:05 |
kaeza |
nuke it from orbit |
| 03:05 |
benrob0329 |
We did that |
| 03:06 |
benrob0329 |
That left a void |
| 03:06 |
benrob0329 |
Filled up with backwash crap |
| 03:06 |
kaeza |
nuke the users too? |
| 03:06 |
benrob0329 |
Nah, just set guidelines |
| 03:06 |
kaeza |
it's just 3 or 4 that turn all threads to sh¡t |
| 03:07 |
benrob0329 |
Rename it to "The Break Room" or something |
| 03:08 |
benrob0329 |
Keeping it appropriate, and somewhat constructive |
| 03:08 |
benrob0329 |
Make a "Game Table" subforum |
| 03:08 |
kaeza |
nah, redirect to /b/ |
| 03:08 |
benrob0329 |
*sigh* |
| 03:09 |
kaeza |
or goatse.cx or whatever the domain is now |
| 03:09 |
benrob0329 |
An offtopic section can help make forums fun |
| 03:09 |
kaeza |
too much? |
| 03:09 |
benrob0329 |
It just doesn't need to be for shitposting |
| 03:14 |
benrob0329 |
Think of it like this |
| 03:15 |
benrob0329 |
If you clean out a junk drawer, but don't put any organisers in it, its just going to become a junk drawer again |
| 03:23 |
benrob0329 |
So, yes you split it up and renamed it |
| 03:23 |
benrob0329 |
But no one knows what the hell "On-Topic" means |
| 03:24 |
benrob0329 |
And you didn't do it in a clear, consistent way |
| 03:27 |
benrob0329 |
What im seeing is that MT forums is growing much faster than ot was expected to |
| 03:27 |
benrob0329 |
And without a real gameplan |
| 03:28 |
benrob0329 |
The problems we see today, will only get worse of you do not correct them whilst they are small |
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Calinou |
benrob0329: I think I realized it already, but thanks :) |
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Hijiri |
off-topic should get specific (non-minetest-related) boards |
| 06:28 |
Calinou |
how many of them though? :P |
| 06:28 |
Calinou |
and that wouldn't solve the problem anyway |
| 06:28 |
Calinou |
the problem here is purely the people who use it regularly |
| 08:01 |
CWz |
hmm we need figit spinners in minetest, when used all mobs on server attack player using it |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 08:02 |
Thomas-S |
Hi, tenplus1! |
| 08:02 |
tenplus1 |
mornin thomas |
| 08:11 |
Shara |
Morning all |
| 08:11 |
tenplus1 |
hi Shara |
| 08:11 |
Shara |
Hi 11 |
| 08:11 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 08:12 |
Shara |
How's it going? |
| 08:13 |
tenplus1 |
chore day :PPPP you ? |
| 08:13 |
Shara |
Last day before scary-exam-of-doom! |
| 08:13 |
tenplus1 |
erk... good luck |
| 08:13 |
Shara |
:) |
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tenplus1 |
hi nrz |
| 08:18 |
nerzhul |
hi tenplus1 |
| 08:18 |
Shara |
Hi nerzhul |
| 08:19 |
tenplus1 |
today is the day I go cold turkey.... |
| 08:19 |
Shara |
From what? |
| 08:20 |
tenplus1 |
Adobe Flash |
| 08:20 |
Shara |
Good luck :P |
| 08:20 |
tenplus1 |
thx... am finding too many issues |
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tenplus1 |
hi Cal |
| 08:30 |
tenplus1 |
4 minutes without Flash plugin... *itches* |
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| 09:01 |
Calinou |
hi tenplus1 |
| 09:01 |
tenplus1 |
hi DS-minetest |
| 09:01 |
tenplus1 |
what's new Cal |
| 09:01 |
DS-minetest |
hi tenplus1 |
| 09:02 |
Calinou |
tenplus1: working on the Symfony app :p |
| 09:02 |
tenplus1 |
whassat ./ |
| 09:02 |
Calinou |
for internship |
| 09:02 |
Calinou |
also trying to figure out CSS animations... |
| 09:03 |
tenplus1 |
ooh, sounds a lotta work |
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| 09:07 |
tenplus1 |
hi fussel |
| 09:07 |
IhrFussel |
Hello there...why did 0.4.16 ship with "half broken" settings? |
| 09:07 |
tenplus1 |
which ones ? |
| 09:08 |
IhrFussel |
Undersampling doesn't work on Android and it doesn't work on OpenGL 1.X either (just black screen) |
| 09:08 |
tenplus1 |
pass! |
| 09:09 |
IhrFussel |
My Android isn't deprecated either (4.4.2 which is still widely used) |
| 09:15 |
Calinou |
pretty sure it's more or less deprecated by Google already :P |
| 09:15 |
Calinou |
I haven't tried undersampling on my device ere, need to find the minetest.conf first |
| 09:17 |
Calinou |
thing is, if I browse my device via SFTP, I see net.minetest.minetest folder, a files/ folder inside but no minetest.conf |
| 09:17 |
IhrFussel |
Many devices still ship with 4.4 (mainly the cheaper ones) ... but it doesn't matter, my point is it should TELL you in the settings that it only works for OpenGL X.X+ and Android X.X+ at least |
| 09:17 |
Calinou |
there's another folder, also empty |
| 09:18 |
Calinou |
ok, found it |
| 09:18 |
Calinou |
made the SFTP server start at device root, so I have access to everything |
| 09:18 |
Calinou |
IhrFussel: "Feature checking? Who needs that?" ;) |
| 09:20 |
Calinou |
IhrFussel: but you are right, it doesn't seem to work with shaders off and the default renderer (which I think, is GLES 1.0?) |
| 09:20 |
Calinou |
just tried here |
| 09:21 |
IhrFussel |
I thought Minetest was originally supposed to be a voxel game that people with OLD computers could also enjoy...did that change? |
| 09:23 |
* tenplus1 |
flashes fussels android to 6.0 |
| 09:23 |
Calinou |
if you enable shaders with the default configuraton, everything turns red :D |
| 09:24 |
Calinou |
IhrFussel: open source never has been about "old computers"; it's a lie |
| 09:24 |
Calinou |
people seem to be misunderstanding a lot, but this is not the project vision of most OSS projects |
| 09:24 |
Calinou |
...including Minetest |
| 09:24 |
Calinou |
(at least, in my opinion) |
| 09:25 |
nerzhul |
IhrFussel, 0.5 will make some old systems less happy as we will switch to C++11 support, bye bye windows xp |
| 09:26 |
Calinou |
yeah, Windows XP support will be gone, same for Ubuntu < 14.04 (and 14.04 will likely require Clang or a PPA) |
| 09:26 |
IhrFussel |
I wasn't talking about the OSS aspect, I was talking about how lightweight Minetest is and I think several core devs said somewhere that it's optimized for older PCs as well ... now I enabled shaders and still see everything black EXCEPT for a few colorful pixels in the top left corner |
| 09:26 |
Calinou |
Minetest is not really lightweight anymore |
| 09:26 |
Calinou |
it's a full-fledged game and engine, and Minecraft has been shown to be more optimized |
| 09:27 |
nerzhul |
minetest is not very lightweight, it consume many memory |
| 09:27 |
nerzhul |
shaders on android are just pain |
| 09:28 |
IhrFussel |
Calinou, Minetest is lightweight when my PC that runs on a singlecore Celeron and 768 MB RAM and a 128 MB GPU...can handle it |
| 09:28 |
nerzhul |
IhrFussel, i think you don't load many mapblocks :p |
| 09:28 |
nerzhul |
nobody really maintain android, i tried to improve a little bit situation but OpenGL 1.X is just bad |
| 09:29 |
Calinou |
yeah, with enjoyable gameplay settings (view range 120 or above), you're definitely not getting 60 FPS |
| 09:29 |
Calinou |
nerzhul: and Irrlicht doesn't have GLES 3.0 renderer :( |
| 09:29 |
Calinou |
which is the first decent GLES version |
| 09:29 |
nerzhul |
Calinou, yes... |
| 09:29 |
IhrFussel |
Of course I reduced the view but my point is it's playable with certain settings...I don't believe one sec that Minecraft becoes playable on my machine no matter how much I change settings |
| 09:29 |
nerzhul |
minecraft required java 7 at least and it's not compatible wit ha such configuration :p |
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| 09:33 |
tenplus1 |
hi dts |
| 09:33 |
tenplus1 |
Protector Redo updated to 2.1, added new 'protector_night_pvp' setting |
| 09:43 |
IhrFussel |
To each their own I guess...I don't need a view range of 120 and I also don't need 60 FPS...I'm TOTALLY happy with 25-30 FPS and a viewing range of 30 - 50 ... my point still stands: Why do you include settings WITHOUT warning that they only work for newer GPUs |
| 09:45 |
Shara |
IhrFussel: why not post an issue and ask for a warning of some kind to be added? |
| 09:47 |
IhrFussel |
Shara, first I wanted to hear possible reasons by the devs themselves before I open one |
| 09:47 |
IhrFussel |
or read* |
| 09:47 |
Calinou |
there's no point in adding a warning |
| 09:47 |
Calinou |
instead, the checkbox should be grayed out with some kind of tooltip :P |
| 09:47 |
Calinou |
but that needs to be done with feature detection |
| 09:48 |
IhrFussel |
And since nobody wants to bother with that I will simply request a warning...it's just a TEXT, nothing to code |
| 09:49 |
tenplus1 |
if engine detects android <5.0 then it prints a warning telling player to get a better phone :DDD |
| 09:49 |
IhrFussel |
tenplus1, sorry but you don't seem to care about poor people who cannot buy recent phones with the newest Android 99.9 |
| 09:50 |
tenplus1 |
fussel, why so serious... was a joke |
| 09:52 |
IhrFussel |
Cause I see it as a major flaw...IMAGINE someone with Android 4.4 (or lower) now downloads Minetest, checks the advanced settings and changes A LOT ... then the person wants to play in the world and suddenly BLACK SCREEN...the problem is the person doesn't know which setting caused that |
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tenplus1 |
hi lisac |
| 09:53 |
tenplus1 |
if it works ok without shaders then maybe they should come disabled by default on android devices |
| 09:54 |
lisac |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 09:54 |
* Shara |
wonders if there is a way to grey out options... |
| 09:54 |
IhrFussel |
tenplus1, it neither works with shaders enabled or disabled...at least not on 4.4 (not sure which OpenGL ES version is required) |
| 09:54 |
Shara |
Either way, probably won't happen without an issue |
| 09:55 |
Calinou |
Shara: already possible, see shader options dropdown when shaders are disabled |
| 09:55 |
tenplus1 |
true, write up an issue Fussel |
| 09:55 |
Calinou |
IhrFussel: Android 4.4 has GLES 2.0 |
| 09:55 |
Calinou |
your device needs to support it, but remember, GLES 2.0 was released in 2007 |
| 09:55 |
Calinou |
so pretty much all Android 4.x devices have it, I believe |
| 09:55 |
Shara |
Make an issue with full details of the problem, and maybe someone will make a PR with an answer to it |
| 09:56 |
Shara |
It's not one I can offer to even look at myself though, because I don't play from android. |
| 09:57 |
IhrFussel |
Calinou, then why did you remove the option to change the GL ES version? Is it somewhere buried in advanced settings now? It was in the basic settings menu before |
| 09:57 |
IhrFussel |
why did they* |
| 09:58 |
Calinou |
it's hidden and defaulted to GLES 1.0 now, IIRC |
| 09:58 |
Calinou |
and the Advanced Settings menu is only made for desktop renderers |
| 09:58 |
Calinou |
so it does not mention either gles1 or gles2 |
| 09:58 |
Calinou |
but only opengl, software, burningsvideo... |
| 09:59 |
IhrFussel |
0.4.14 had it in the basic settings IIRC |
| 09:59 |
IhrFussel |
on Android |
| 09:59 |
Calinou |
I don't know why it was removed, perhaps GLES 2.0 was deemed too buggy/slow |
| 10:01 |
IhrFussel |
Can you tell me the name of the setting? It's a real PAIN to navigate the advanced settings on a touchscreen |
| 10:02 |
tenplus1 |
have you ever tried cyanogen mod to upgrade your phone to a newer version ? |
| 10:04 |
IhrFussel |
Is it "video_driver"? It only lists "opengl" I can't choose a version to use ... tenplus1 I don't want to lose the warranty on my phone |
| 10:05 |
tenplus1 |
may I ask what make/model phone you have ? |
| 10:07 |
IhrFussel |
HUAWEI Y625 |
| 10:09 |
tenplus1 |
am kinda surprised they still sell mobile phones with android versions below 5.0 in this day and age |
| 10:09 |
tenplus1 |
my Lenovo B came with 6.01 and was only 60 quid |
| 10:14 |
IhrFussel |
tenplus1, my phone is 1 year old now and it was $99 ... now it's probably only $70 or $80 anymore |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
more like $40 :P |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
Android phones devalue fairly quickly, in my experience |
| 10:14 |
tenplus1 |
cause they are just phones... they have no fashion value associated to them like iphone |
| 10:15 |
tenplus1 |
but I'd rather have an android :) |
| 10:15 |
IhrFussel |
Calinou, if you buy it directly from the manufacturer it will cost more than $40 still :P |
| 10:17 |
IhrFussel |
Also yes there are cheap Android 5.0+ phones/tablets but they mostly don't have enough RAM |
| 10:18 |
IhrFussel |
My phone was the ONLY one at my local store with quadcore and 1 GB RAM for < $100 |
| 10:19 |
IhrFussel |
If you only need 512 MB RAM you can get one for $30 |
| 10:26 |
IhrFussel |
Creating the issue now |
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tenplus1 |
hi fixer |
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| 10:50 |
tenplus1 |
hi cx384 |
| 10:50 |
cx384 |
hi tenplus1 :) |
| 11:28 |
tenplus1 |
Xanadu is supposed to be a medeival survival server, but the players have sorta banded into helpful groups and made public farms/forests for all to take... makes things too easy :PPPPP |
| 11:34 |
Shara |
DL has gone the other way. It's now completely possible for a new player to starve before finding food |
| 11:34 |
tenplus1 |
ahh, true survival... ehehe |
| 11:34 |
red-NaN |
multiple times |
| 11:35 |
tenplus1 |
that's why I go on a killing spree with the wildlife before doing anything :P helps |
| 11:35 |
tenplus1 |
ehehehehe |
| 11:35 |
Shara |
The moderator running the public farm insists it's still public... but he protected it. |
| 11:35 |
Shara |
He can't seem to understand what that means for new players :) |
| 11:35 |
tenplus1 |
shame... |
| 11:36 |
Shara |
After tomorrow I will start changing things there |
| 11:36 |
tenplus1 |
xanadu is running today's protector changes... if the players agree we'll enable the protector_night_pvp mode :D |
| 11:36 |
Shara |
Hehe |
| 11:37 |
Shara |
We seem to like copying each other :P |
| 11:37 |
Shara |
Though I really hope I don't need to keep DL locked down for too long.... |
| 11:37 |
tenplus1 |
only IF the players agree... server is always kept up to date tho |
| 11:40 |
tenplus1 |
brb |
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| 12:09 |
red-NaN |
@server owners: Are custom chat messages sent by CSM a major concern? |
| 12:09 |
tenplus1 |
yes |
| 12:09 |
tenplus1 |
players would mimic any player or admin and fool many people |
| 12:09 |
VanessaE |
red-NaN: they are if they're not rate- and length-limited |
| 12:09 |
red-NaN |
they are currently rate limited |
| 12:10 |
* Jordach |
considers creating a central auth server |
| 12:10 |
sfan5 |
are csm sent msgs any different than normal msg? |
| 12:10 |
red-NaN |
no |
| 12:10 |
sfan5 |
then tenplus1's concern does not apply |
| 12:10 |
red-NaN |
CSM messages are treated by the server the same normal messages are |
| 12:10 |
nerzhul |
CSM messages = sending chat message like regular way |
| 12:10 |
nerzhul |
it just permit to hide some server commands inside GUIs for example |
| 12:11 |
nerzhul |
(because we removed chat prediction heh) |
| 12:11 |
red-NaN |
well if you use diffrent colours for admins in chat it then that could be an issue |
| 12:11 |
red-NaN |
but I'm planning to make a server-sided fix for that |
| 12:12 |
tenplus1 |
so long as we have an option available to disable CSM on servers or better yet, an optino to only allow CSM mods FROM the server itself |
| 12:13 |
sfan5 |
that would make csm way less useful though (the last proposal) |
| 12:13 |
Amaz |
I would love it if the server could send CSM mods :) |
| 12:13 |
nerzhul |
we are working on CSM flavours do you prefer to disallow API for sending chat messages (not client manually written chat messages) or control client rate limiting (which is actually same as default server limits) |
| 12:14 |
tenplus1 |
+1 amaz |
| 12:14 |
nerzhul |
yeah you want it and we listened to you but there are major concerns to do it's why we didn't try to ship it in this 0.4.16 , first have an API usage for users and see what happens, second enhance |
| 12:15 |
nerzhul |
for who/who_plus mod was exactly why CSM was designed at first step :) |
| 12:15 |
red-NaN |
could I suggest a solution for length limiting? |
| 12:15 |
nerzhul |
message length ? |
| 12:15 |
red-NaN |
just break long messages into smaller sub messages |
| 12:15 |
red-NaN |
and then do regular rate limiting |
| 12:16 |
nerzhul |
it can break some long commands i think |
| 12:16 |
red-NaN |
well have a reasonable limit like 100 chars |
| 12:16 |
nerzhul |
better is to refuse that in API because it's non printable and not our job to split them |
| 12:16 |
red-NaN |
well that could work too |
| 12:17 |
VanessaE |
no don't do that |
| 12:17 |
tenplus1 |
hi red, hi Vanessa |
| 12:17 |
VanessaE |
someone sends a 1k block of spam... bam, dozens of messages |
| 12:17 |
red-NaN |
VanessaE, I was suggesting puting it through regular rate limiting |
| 12:17 |
VanessaE |
limit the message length to 256 chars, and rate-limit to like once every 10 seconds or so, depending on length |
| 12:18 |
red-NaN |
which is 8 messages per 10s |
| 12:18 |
VanessaE |
red-NaN: the problem is, the sender loads up their 1k of text, presses send... |
| 12:18 |
VanessaE |
now you have.........spam...spam...spam...spam...spam... |
| 12:18 |
red-NaN |
oh yeah I forgot about the message queue |
| 12:18 |
VanessaE |
(imagine a short delay for each "...") |
| 12:18 |
red-NaN |
alright thats a good point |
| 12:19 |
nerzhul |
message queue is only client side |
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| 12:19 |
nerzhul |
server limits and discards messages |
| 12:19 |
nerzhul |
message queue can send messages, but they will be refused by server :p |
| 12:19 |
tenplus1 |
hi raven |
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| 12:26 |
tenplus1 |
hi DI3HARD139 |
| 12:28 |
DI3HARD139 |
hello |
| 12:29 |
DI3HARD139 |
Quick question for the group. Can I use Non-Volatile memory as standard ram?? |
| 12:29 |
Calinou |
DI3HARD139: yes, I've heard of NAND RAM (so you have lots of it) but it's very slow |
| 12:29 |
DI3HARD139 |
I ordered 2 4x4GB ram kits and apparently they were non volatile ram kits |
| 12:29 |
Calinou |
but they'd be huge in terms of capacity |
| 12:29 |
Calinou |
benchmark their speed |
| 12:29 |
Calinou |
if it's < 10,000 MB/s in sequential, that might be the case |
| 12:30 |
DI3HARD139 |
Gotta reseat the ram. one sec |
| 12:30 |
sfan5 |
you can get nand in dimm format? |
| 12:30 |
Calinou |
sfan5: I saw that, but that was years ago |
| 12:30 |
DI3HARD139 |
Guess so. They were Micron branded but apparently Cypress Technology made them |
| 12:31 |
sfan5 |
apparently these actually exist http://www.agigatech.com/ddr3.php |
| 12:32 |
DI3HARD139 |
and those are the exact ones I got :P |
| 12:32 |
DI3HARD139 |
#Failing |
| 12:32 |
sfan5 |
those sound like they would be either 1) a lot more expensive or 2) a lot slower |
| 12:32 |
DI3HARD139 |
Both |
| 12:33 |
DI3HARD139 |
Looks like I gotta order another ram kit.... |
| 12:33 |
sfan5 |
so you didn't even compare prices? |
| 12:33 |
DI3HARD139 |
I only paid $38 USD shipped |
| 12:34 |
DI3HARD139 |
Ahhhhh..... The life of trying to fill 8 ram slots with identical ram |
| 12:35 |
Calinou |
there's no real point in having > 2 sticks of RAM in a desktop today |
| 12:35 |
Calinou |
unless you need 64 GB of RAM, which is very unlikely right now |
| 12:35 |
sfan5 |
when i buy something i usually filter by what i need (e.g. storage space) and sort by price ascending |
| 12:36 |
sfan5 |
so it's pretty much impossible that i accidentally spend too much money :P |
| 12:36 |
Calinou |
yeah, typically you sort by configuration (2 sticks, not more, not less) and storage, then price |
| 12:36 |
Calinou |
1-stick should be avoided as well, since you won't benefit from dual channel |
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Calinou |
(the difference is tiny, but it's there) |
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DI3HARD139 |
Im just trying to utilize the quad channel capability of my CPU |
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sfan5 |
the difference is tiny |
| 12:37 |
DI3HARD139 |
That and its a Xeon so it needs all the help it can get in terms of memory bandwidth as I can't overclock it. | On a side note. I just killed one of the sticks. oops |
| 12:37 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: i have only one ram stick installed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 12:38 |
Calinou |
also helps if a RAM stick fails, you can keep on using your PC (albeit with reduced RAM) |
| 12:38 |
Calinou |
if you have just one and it fails, you can't do anything :P |
| 12:38 |
DI3HARD139 |
never mind. Apparently Westmere-EP doesnt support nvdimms |
| 12:39 |
DI3HARD139 |
which makes sense |
| 12:39 |
sfan5 |
won't those just act like normal ram sticks? |
| 12:40 |
DI3HARD139 |
I would assume so. But for some reason its getting confused |
| 12:41 |
DI3HARD139 |
They were working fine in my Sandy Bridge - EP (e5-2665) aside from the OS not getting the SPD data |
| 12:45 |
Amaz |
red-NaN: Is https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5492 still on your radar? It would be pretty wonderful :) |
| 12:48 |
red-NaN |
yeah it is |
| 12:48 |
red-NaN |
I'm meaning to rewrite it |
| 12:48 |
red-NaN |
not really happen with all the code dupilcation I caused |
| 12:48 |
Amaz |
:) |
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tenplus1 |
hi nathan |
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NathanS21 |
hi tenplus1 |
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DI3HARD139 |
and.... memory controller is gone..... yay |
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DI3HARD139 |
Anywho. What performance changes were made to the 3D Engine? |
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nerzhul |
now we use Unreal engine 4 |
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DI3HARD139 |
I wish |
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nerzhul |
this will never happen heh |
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DI3HARD139 |
I'd take Vulkan though |
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tenplus1 |
vulkan is taking over slow but sure :)) yay |
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Calinou |
Vulkan isn't a panacea though, it has low hardware support and Apple still doesn't support it |
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Calinou |
(they did not announce any kind of support at WWDC 2017) |
| 13:20 |
Calinou |
fun fact: they were part of the Vulkan advisory board |
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tenplus1 |
apple want everything to run there own way |
| 13:21 |
Calinou |
yeah, they have their own API, Metal |
| 13:21 |
Calinou |
you can convert Vulkan to Metal using MoltenVK but it's not open source, and paid |
| 13:21 |
Calinou |
and there's no open source equivalent yet |
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tenplus1 |
metal api does look interesting but I think that vulkan is opengl's eventual form with it's api being reworked |
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Calinou |
OpenGL isn't discontinued entirely actually, new extensions were added last year (but nobody uses them) |
| 13:26 |
Calinou |
the current hardware support doesn't make it viable to require OpenGL 4.x anyway, except for AAA games or workstation apps |
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DI3HARD139 |
To answer the question as for speed of the memory. Its actually faster then standard PC3-12800R memory. (12031MB/s vs 11842MB/s |
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tenplus1 |
hi RobbieF |
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tenplus1 |
hi stone |
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tenplus1 |
wb DS-minetest |
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DS-minetest |
thanks :) |
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StoneTalus[Rare] |
sup guys |
| 13:45 |
tenplus1 |
chillin :) you ? |
| 13:45 |
StoneTalus[Rare] |
bored |
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StoneTalus[Rare] |
need to replace a keyboard key |
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tenplus1 |
which one ? |
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Raven262 |
Which one? |
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Raven262 |
xD |
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StoneTalus[Rare] |
> and . |
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tenplus1 |
time for a new keyboard... 2.99 ;P |
| 13:46 |
StoneTalus[Rare] |
I have one |
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StoneTalus[Rare] |
this is just my laptop lol |
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tenplus1 |
ehe |
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tenplus1 |
hi twoelk |
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twoelk |
hi |
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StoneTalus[Rare] |
O |
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twoelk |
hmm? minetest-project is gone? |
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StoneTalus[Rare] |
\|/ |
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StoneTalus[Rare] |
/\ |
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StoneTalus[Rare] |
nvm |
| 13:56 |
StoneTalus[Rare] |
i give up |
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tenplus1 |
? |
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* twoelk |
fires up a browsing fox to study the logs |
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tenplus1 |
am researching metal api |
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twoelk |
have been discussing metallurgy with my 11y old nephew who noticed differences between gaming and what he is being taught about metalls in school ;-) |
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tenplus1 |
I dont think any game is accurate in that area :P |
| 14:01 |
tenplus1 |
maybe the new tin+copper recipe but even then smelting in a furnace :P |
| 14:01 |
twoelk |
yeah, so what he learnt is that school knowladge is of no use in gaming :-( |
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twoelk |
-a+e |
| 14:04 |
tenplus1 |
so MoltenVK and MoltenGL both run Vulkan and OPenGL games/software through using Metal API |
| 14:10 |
benrob0329 |
* Jordach considers creating a central auth server |
| 14:10 |
benrob0329 |
NO! |
| 14:11 |
tenplus1 |
personally I would remove auth.txt and handle it inside player files |
| 14:11 |
tenplus1 |
less chance of crashing whole server if file becomes corrupt |
| 14:11 |
nerzhul |
tenplus1, we have a solution i will backport from my server in 0.5 which is a postgresql/sqlite database for auth |
| 14:11 |
nerzhul |
it will permit to have central auth on servers using pgsql |
| 14:12 |
nerzhul |
bind 3-4 servers on the minetest_auth db :) |
| 14:12 |
tenplus1 |
???? |
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benrob0329 |
^^^ |
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benrob0329 |
Erm, +1 nerzhul |
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nerzhul |
!tell DS-minetest can you finish #5917 please ? |
| 14:21 |
ShadowBot |
nerzhul: O.K. |
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benrob0329 |
(Off) https://youtu.be/7z4hoazra_g |
| 14:24 |
red-NaN |
Jordach, est31 already made one |
| 14:24 |
IhrFussel |
I'm asking for someone else: What's the IRC mod called? |
| 14:24 |
red-NaN |
IRC iirc |
| 14:24 |
red-NaN |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3905 |
| 14:24 |
IhrFussel |
Just "IRC"? Are capital letters allowed? |
| 14:25 |
Calinou |
it is "irc"in lowercase |
| 14:25 |
red-NaN |
so the mod folder is "irc" |
| 14:25 |
IhrFussel |
Ok thanks^^ |
| 14:38 |
IhrFussel |
The function to remove color codes is color.strip_colors(str) ? Not minetest.X? |
| 14:39 |
red-NaN |
well core == minetest |
| 14:39 |
red-NaN |
you can use either or |
| 14:39 |
IhrFussel |
But it says color.strip_colors in Lua API |
| 14:39 |
red-NaN |
oh |
| 14:39 |
red-NaN |
I though I made a PR to fix that |
| 14:40 |
red-NaN |
that should be either "core" or "minetest" |
| 14:40 |
IhrFussel |
Also color.strip_background_colors(str) ... I compiled Jun 4 when did you make the PR? |
| 14:41 |
red-NaN |
It seems I forgot to |
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Calinou |
IIRC, mods should use minetest. |
| 14:51 |
Calinou |
and builtin/ should use core. |
| 14:51 |
Calinou |
it's just a convention though |
| 14:54 |
red-NaN |
yeah it convention |
| 14:54 |
red-NaN |
a werid and pointless one if you ask me |
| 14:56 |
red-NaN |
it's* |
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* red-NaN |
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Krock |
best chance for 10+1 to ninja me in greeting |
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Krock |
hello everone |
| 15:51 |
red-NaN |
!tell tenplus1 hi |
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ShadowBot |
red-NaN: O.K. |
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nerzhul |
!tell tenplus proot |
| 15:51 |
ShadowBot |
nerzhul: O.K. |
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nerzhul |
Hey Krock |
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Krock |
hi nerzhul |
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red-NaN |
!tell Krock hi |
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ShadowBot |
red-NaN: O.K. |
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Krock |
. |
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nerzhul |
!tell Krock /kick Krock |
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ShadowBot |
nerzhul: O.K. |
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Krock |
what are you guys up to? |
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benrob0329 |
Krock: gonna give my cat a wash |
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Krock |
Uh. Is it going to be a fight to get the cat wet? |
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IhrFussel |
Is it okay to have a changelog in the OP in my server thread? |
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red-NaN |
sounds ok |
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IhrFussel |
I just hope there are no edit limits |
| 16:19 |
Amaz |
IhrFussel: I don't think that there are any edit limits (or if there are, they're very high). |
| 16:20 |
red-NaN |
most mods/server/subgames/etc tend to make a new post for every change |
| 16:20 |
Amaz |
e.g. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=83513#p83513 "edited 101 times in total." |
| 16:20 |
red-NaN |
maybe the limit is 102 |
| 16:20 |
Amaz |
Heh |
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IhrFussel |
If I would create a new post for every change I'd flood my own topic (take a look at the current change log) |
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benrob0329 |
Question, do you prefer longer videos with heavy amounts of editing, or shorter videos released more often? |
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Shara |
benrob0329: I prefer good videos, regardless of length. :P |
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Calinou |
Jordach would likely prefer 4-hour-long YTPs |
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Calinou |
:D |
| 16:28 |
benrob0329 |
Lol |
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benrob0329 |
This is true |
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Jordach |
Calinou, you fucking wot m8 |
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tenplus1 |
hi peeps |
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tenplus1 |
Question. Can I disable CSM mods from loading on a client from server-side ?? |
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Jordach |
uhhh |
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benrob0329 |
tenplus1: hi |
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tenplus1 |
hi ben |
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tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
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tenplus1 |
wb DS-minetest |
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DS-minetest |
thank you 11 |
| 16:45 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 16:45 |
tenplus1 |
hi krock, whats new? |
| 16:46 |
Krock |
tenplus1, xubuntu installed and building Minetest rn |
| 16:46 |
tenplus1 |
sweet :) which version, 16:04 ?? |
| 16:46 |
Krock |
yes, LTS |
| 16:46 |
* Krock |
is happy to know about "screenfetch" |
| 16:47 |
tenplus1 |
installed the same yesterday on a new build... am disappointed with asus though, they'r making it harder on purpose to install Other Os' on their mobo's than Win10 |
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* Jordach |
starts obliterating the steam library of unused games |
| 16:49 |
tenplus1 |
heh |
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benrob0329 |
tenplus1: >Question, do you prefer longer videos with heavy amounts of editing, or shorter videos released more often? |
| 16:50 |
Jordach |
90GB of 2TB free -> 370GB free |
| 16:51 |
Krock |
well great. freshly installed and 166 outdated packets |
| 16:51 |
benrob0329 |
3 tb home partition ftw |
| 16:51 |
benrob0329 |
Krock: that's release date ISOs for you |
| 16:51 |
tenplus1 |
it all depends on the content benrob... |
| 16:52 |
tenplus1 |
16.04.3 is out and .4 will be out shortly |
| 16:52 |
tenplus1 |
to keep iso up to date |
| 16:52 |
benrob0329 |
Krock: you didn't go for newest release? |
| 16:52 |
Jordach |
499 free |
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Jordach |
and R Y Z E N |
| 16:53 |
Krock |
benrob0329, well, I used the newest LTS one |
| 16:53 |
benrob0329 |
I mean that's a fair choice, its just too out of date for me :P |
| 16:54 |
tenplus1 |
heh... am using 17.04 atm and prolyl 17.10 when beta out |
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benrob0329 |
I have a theory |
| 16:59 |
benrob0329 |
AMD doesn't actually like open source things |
| 17:00 |
benrob0329 |
But they are doing it in order to save themselves should Ryzen backfire |
| 17:00 |
tenplus1 |
wait, arent they helping with the open-source ati drivers though ? |
| 17:00 |
benrob0329 |
Yes |
| 17:00 |
tenplus1 |
hi shiva |
| 17:00 |
benrob0329 |
If all else fails, companies like Redhat might bail them out |
| 17:01 |
benrob0329 |
Because of all the work they put into open source things |
| 17:02 |
benrob0329 |
Its not that AMD actually cares, moreso that its their policy rn because of how fed up people are getting with Nvidia |
| 17:02 |
Jordach |
...and Intlel |
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benrob0329 |
Intel isn't bad |
| 17:02 |
Jordach |
>$99 FOR RAID |
| 17:02 |
Jordach |
>MUST USE INTEL DRIVES |
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Jordach |
:thinking: |
| 17:03 |
benrob0329 |
Well yeah that is bad |
| 17:03 |
tenplus1 |
in this day and age things like drivers should be open-source so that users can report bugs, apply fixes etc |
| 17:03 |
benrob0329 |
Ok do Intel is making some bad decisions right now, they've been good in the past |
| 17:03 |
benrob0329 |
*so |
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benrob0329 |
If they continue, then I feel like AMD will have struck gold |
| 17:04 |
benrob0329 |
Being the only hardware manufacturer to work closely with free software |
| 17:04 |
tenplus1 |
+100... amd are doing a good thing |
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tenplus1 |
wb DI3HARD139 |
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benrob0329 |
But my theory is that its all just business |
| 17:05 |
tenplus1 |
even so, because of amd's work with open-source, my next pc will be md |
| 17:06 |
tenplus1 |
*amd |
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red-NaN |
! natan |
| 17:06 |
red-NaN |
!seen natan |
| 17:06 |
ShadowBot |
red-NaN: I haven't seen natan in #minetest-hub. |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
simple reason for open source drivers: they work on live media, legally |
| 17:06 |
red-NaN |
!seen nathan |
| 17:06 |
ShadowBot |
red-NaN: I haven't seen nathan in #minetest-hub. |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
the only distro that bundles the proprietary NVIDIA driver on live media is Manjaro |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
and it's likely illegal to do so |
| 17:06 |
DI3HARD139 |
ty |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
but they haven't gotten in trouble for this yet |
| 17:06 |
tenplus1 |
doesnt mint do that also ? |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
no, it doesn't |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
contrarily to common belief |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
I mean, where the driver is used when running the live media itself |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
(useful when Nouveau outright crashes on laod) |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
load* |
| 17:07 |
benrob0329 |
Vesa should work for installinh |
| 17:07 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, noveau isnt too great |
| 17:07 |
benrob0329 |
*installing |
| 17:07 |
tenplus1 |
nvidia really need to help out in that area |
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* Jordach |
emptied nearly 1.2 TB of shit |
| 17:08 |
benrob0329 |
But they wont, because of how nvidia works |
| 17:08 |
tenplus1 |
oof |
| 17:08 |
benrob0329 |
Nvidia's policy is to be the first and the only one to do sonething |
| 17:08 |
Jordach |
AMD is making bank from console peasants anyways |
| 17:08 |
Jordach |
AMD Jag cores :D |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
Vesa is limited to 1024x768 |
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benrob0329 |
Buy Intel and amd he (my friend) says |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
no video/2D/3D acceleration whatsoever |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
thanks but no thanks... |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
sometimes you want to be able to browse the Web decently on live media |
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Calinou |
and it's not possible with Vesa |
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benrob0329 |
Meh, (e)Li/ynks(2) |
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tenplus1 |
?? |
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tenplus1 |
wb nrz |
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benrob0329 |
tenplus1: links, elinks, and links2 |
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benrob0329 |
And lynks |
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benrob0329 |
Or is it lynx |
| 17:12 |
tenplus1 |
hehe, yeah I know that... just wondering why meh ?? whassup |
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nerzhul |
oty |
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benrob0329 |
>not possible to browse web on live media with vesa |
| 17:12 |
benrob0329 |
W3m even has images |
| 17:13 |
benrob0329 |
No JS though, you'll need elinks for that |
| 17:13 |
benrob0329 |
But lynx has proper layout support |
| 17:13 |
benrob0329 |
Why cant we have a good text based browser? |
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tenplus1 |
pah! |
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* tenplus1 |
is testing latest Quipzilla browser :) not bad |
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benrob0329 |
Extentions though |
| 17:20 |
tenplus1 |
has built in adblocker and supports flash |
| 17:20 |
tenplus1 |
what else you ya need :DDD |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
I wish Firefox removed that godawful title bar on Linux |
| 17:20 |
benrob0329 |
Userstyles |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
they've done so on Windows already, for a long time |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
but on Linux you're just wasting vertical real estate compared to Chromium |
| 17:20 |
benrob0329 |
Calinou: what title bar? |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: compare Firefox and Chromium on Linux |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
maximize both, see which one gives you the most space available for content |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
(vertically) |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
Chromium will *always* win right now |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
and not by a few pixels |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
more like a few dozen |
| 17:21 |
benrob0329 |
You mean shrink the tab bar? |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
no, remove the title bar above |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
it's been like this on Windows since... 2011? |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
Chrome did this since... version 1? |
| 17:21 |
Calinou |
(2008° |
| 17:21 |
benrob0329 |
Window decorations built in? |
| 17:22 |
benrob0329 |
I don't have any wondow decorations anyways :PP |
| 17:22 |
benrob0329 |
*window |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
talking about non-tiling WMs here |
| 17:22 |
benrob0329 |
Well you could turn them off for FF |
| 17:22 |
benrob0329 |
Or install an addon |
| 17:22 |
tenplus1 |
chromium has bookmarks toolbar whereas firefox has bookmarks button, so ff wins in real estate because of that |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: there is an add-on for that but it's broken |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
due to the nature of GTK+, and non-GNOME desktops, they cannot do it reliably everywhere |
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Calinou |
tenplus1: by default, the bookmarks toolbar does not appear all the time |
| 17:25 |
Calinou |
you can set it to, but I suggest not doing that :P |
| 17:25 |
tenplus1 |
if they had a bookmark button available without addon then it'd be fine... but I really dont like giong through menus for my links |
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Krock |
^ seems to be angry |
| 17:52 |
DS-minetest |
no, he always quits that |
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tenplus1 |
this may just be me, but... qupzilla seems a lot smoother and more responsive than chrome/firefix |
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Jordach |
>launches Tekken 7 |
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tenplus1 |
hi bigfoot547 |
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benrob0329 |
How I mow my lawn: https://youtu.be/nJqqgoG742Y |
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benrob0329 |
How I want to mow my lawn:https: //youtu.be/Iu_Q3AGBQUU |
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benrob0329 |
* https://youtu.be/Iu_Q3AGBQUU |
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IhrFussel |
Can someone tell me why this happens? http://ihrfussels-server.tk/mt.gif |
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tenplus1 |
what am I looking at ? |
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tenplus1 |
or looking for ? |
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IhrFussel |
Watch the wielded tool |
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tenplus1 |
it goes dark, ghotcha |
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IhrFussel |
Not only that, it prevents me from moving while it's black |
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Shara |
Never saw anything like it before. |
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IhrFussel |
It happens very randomly...I'm guessing it's about collision cause it does not happen when I walk against a wall for example |
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IhrFussel |
Should I file an issue? It already happened with 0.4.15-dev from May and I thought it was probably a bad PR |
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Shara |
I would |
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tenplus1 |
yeah |
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tenplus1 |
hi stormchaser |
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IhrFussel |
What should I name it? "Random bug with wielded item"? |
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tenplus1 |
"Wielditem shadow glitch" |
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garywhite |
hi everyone |
| 19:19 |
tenplus1 |
hi gary |
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red-NaN |
IhrFussel, why is your server not listed as ihrfussels-server.tk on the server list? |
| 19:30 |
IhrFussel |
Back in May 2016 when I created my server I didn't have that domain yet and I thought it would confuse the players now if I suddenly use a completely different address...I registered the domain in Feb I think |
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red-NaN |
oh ok then |
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red-NaN |
could you set the link to that? |
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red-NaN |
server_url |
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tenplus1 |
hi ka |
| 19:56 |
tenplus1 |
hi kaeza |
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tenplus1 |
:P |
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kaeza |
hi te |
| 19:56 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 19:56 |
tenplus1 |
ehehehe |
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tenplus1 |
hows things ? |
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kaeza |
fine I guess. you? |
| 19:57 |
tenplus1 |
not bad, testing new browser :D |
| 19:58 |
kaeza |
which one? |
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tenplus1 |
Qupzilla |
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kaeza |
O.o |
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tenplus1 |
got the latest appimage and so far it's pretty darn good :P |
| 19:59 |
kaeza |
another firefox fork? |
| 19:59 |
tenplus1 |
Qt browser with built in adblock and a ton of settings to customize as ya like :) it's smoother than chrome here |
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tenplus1 |
https://qupzilla.com/ |
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kaeza |
oh I see |
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kaeza |
looks kinda nice |
| 20:01 |
kaeza |
I like chrome-style minimalist interfaces |
| 20:01 |
kaeza |
too bad chrome seems worse than FF now :/ |
| 20:02 |
tenplus1 |
chrome has page rendering issues... firefox feels sluggish and both are memory hungry... qupzilla feels nice to use and has better html5 score than most browsers :D |
| 20:04 |
nerzhul |
stormchaser3000, please test comment on #5937 |
| 20:06 |
stormchaser3000 |
nerzhul, ok |
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* stormchaser3000 |
git pulls |
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stormchaser3000 |
oh comment not commit |
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tenplus1 |
is it possible to disable CSM from server-side ? |
| 20:09 |
benrob0329 |
Qutebrowser has vim-like keybindings |
| 20:09 |
benrob0329 |
Also QT based |
| 20:09 |
tenplus1 |
yup, is nice :P |
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red-NaN |
tenplus1, not yet |
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red-NaN |
tenplus1, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5930 |
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tenplus1 |
I dont get why modern browsers need at least 500mb to simple run |
| 20:11 |
rubenwardy |
because meh progress |
| 20:12 |
tenplus1 |
it's kinda sad but I remember using a browser called Voyager on my ppc amiga at the time, it only needed 2mb in total to run and was pretty good... rendered pages well and didnt need half of the fluff we get now |
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tenplus1 |
ntie folks :P |
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Fixer |
VanessaE: are your trees decaying via AMB or via new system? |
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Fixer |
"Cannabis guard cattle, also called security cows" |
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Fixer |
wat? |
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Sokomine |
maybe they like to eat it |
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red-NaN |
well thats it, better arrest that cattle |
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* Fixer |
.oO(PART FISH @ PART GIRL @ I DON"T FIT YOUR WORLD) |
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Fixer |
We need distance meter mod in minetest |
| 22:41 |
Fixer |
ruler or smth like that |
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Megaf |
sneaking in |
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Megaf |
Shara, =* |
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Fixer |
FUCK GITHUB |
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Megaf |
Why? |
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Fixer |
can;t attach images, strange error "content updated" crap |
| 22:53 |
Megaf |
what browser? |
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red-NaN |
hi Megaf |
| 22:54 |
Megaf |
hey red-NaN |
| 22:54 |
Fixer |
firefox |
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Megaf |
red-NaN, hows thinga? |
| 22:54 |
Megaf |
Fixer, you trying to report a bug or what? |
| 22:54 |
red-NaN |
good |
| 22:54 |
Fixer |
Megaf: trying comment on PR |
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Megaf |
red-NaN, it was pretty windy today, wasn't it? |
| 22:55 |
Megaf |
weather was still good tho |
| 22:55 |
red-NaN |
is it ever not windy? |
| 22:55 |
Megaf |
red-NaN, it was pretty calm for the last weeks |
| 22:55 |
red-NaN |
true |
| 22:55 |
Megaf |
and apart from the last week it was even sunny |
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red-NaN |
it's better then during the winter time |
| 22:56 |
Megaf |
eh, last winter warent too bad either |
| 22:58 |
benrob0329 |
Hey Megaf |
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Megaf |
Fixer, at what point you get the error? |
| 22:58 |
Megaf |
Does preview work? |
| 22:58 |
Megaf |
hello benrob0329 |
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benrob0329 |
Whats up? |
| 23:00 |
Megaf |
Im pretty happy today, finally using my laptop again, its been several months already |
| 23:00 |
Megaf |
so basically, I had broken its keyboard with liquid |
| 23:00 |
Megaf |
today I finally bought an USB keyboard |
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benrob0329 |
Ah, usually liquid breaks mote than the keyboard |
| 23:01 |
benrob0329 |
*more |
| 23:01 |
benrob0329 |
Ive been working on projects n such |
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Megaf |
yep, it does. it passed the keyboard but stopped just beneath it, without dripping into the main board |
| 23:02 |
red-NaN |
your lucky |
| 23:03 |
red-NaN |
you're* |
| 23:05 |
Megaf |
yep |
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Megaf |
and no |
| 23:05 |
Megaf |
this is my Toshiba Satellite laptop |
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Megaf |
I liquid damaged my MacBook Pro too |
| 23:06 |
Megaf |
a month or two after the Toshiba =/ |
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Megaf |
but the Mac I cant get to boot up properly |
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| 23:06 |
Megaf |
screen remains black, with some artifacts |
| 23:07 |
Megaf |
Fixer, the error shows up when you click preview? |
| 23:09 |
Megaf |
Fixer_, ^ |
| 23:11 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: had a Toshiba satellite, crappiest laptop ive ever owned |
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Megaf |
I must say this one is pretty decent |
| 23:12 |
benrob0329 |
I suppose I had a budget model |
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Megaf |
not performance wise tho |
| 23:12 |
Megaf |
benrob0329, I got the cheapest I could find |
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Megaf |
it was like 360 Euro |
| 23:12 |
benrob0329 |
Performance is relative |
| 23:12 |
benrob0329 |
Mine was $250 Usd |
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Megaf |
oh my |
| 23:12 |
Megaf |
that's cheap |
| 23:13 |
Megaf |
Intel Celeron? Pentium? |
| 23:13 |
benrob0329 |
Pentium 2 I think, but I'd have to go look at its lifeless corpse |
| 23:14 |
benrob0329 |
(doesn't boot anymore) |
| 23:15 |
benrob0329 |
Made my early videos on it though |
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benrob0329 |
15 fps videos, and yet people watched them XD |
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benrob0329 |
Wb stormchaser3000 |
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stormchaser3000 |
thanks |
| 23:17 |
stormchaser3000 |
minetest seems to be crashing my DragonflyBSD installation |
| 23:17 |
stormchaser3000 |
and i don't know what logfile to look in to find out why |
| 23:18 |
benrob0329 |
/var/log/ something er other |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/fW3QkuL.png |
| 23:24 |
benrob0329 |
>github is down |
| 23:24 |
benrob0329 |
https://youtu.be/a1Y73sPHKxw |
| 23:26 |
garywhite |
GH is down officially now? |
| 23:27 |
benrob0329 |
ATM at least |
| 23:29 |
garywhite |
status.github.com MAJOR SERVICE OUTAGE as of 16:19 PDT |
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VanessaE |
~tell Fixer moretrees uses the newer system, same as default trees. |
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ShadowBot |
VanessaE: O.K. |
