| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:45 |
erle |
is it possible to get the history of deleted pages from the dev wiki? a lot of stuff seems to have been deleted recently without any redirect or replacement |
| 00:46 |
erle |
and i'm not even sure if the pages were containing useful information (some wiki pages contain more information than lua_api.txt or how it is called) |
| 00:46 |
erle |
but it's not really possible to check |
| 00:46 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> they wherent |
| 00:47 |
erle |
can i have them regardless, to double-check? |
| 00:47 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> no idea, do pay attention https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=22469&p=413997#p413997 |
| 00:48 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> not to mention you arguably had 2? years to look at all the pages marked for deletion |
| 00:48 |
erle |
what |
| 00:48 |
erle |
i used these pages as reference, it's not like i even noticed these 450 pages were marked for deletion |
| 00:49 |
MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> This sounds like a job for the wayback machine |
| 00:49 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> was in red at the top, for like 2 years, if you cant read... |
| 00:49 |
erle |
how about you fuck your own face |
| 00:49 |
erle |
i can read obviously |
| 00:49 |
erle |
stop insulting me |
| 00:49 |
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| 00:50 |
MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> This just feels like the opening to Hitchhiker's Guide |
| 00:56 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> well that was uncalled for |
| 00:57 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> (what erle said, not the hitchhiker reference) |
| 01:23 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> @Minetest Docs Team https://github.com/minetest/minetest_docs/issues/38 |
| 01:26 |
MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> I'll poke at it tomorrow, I (am supposed to) go to bed in 30 minutes |
| 01:27 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-james-go-to-sleep-gif-6146952 |
| 01:27 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> no rush, i tried to design it with roughly a week for each section |
| 01:28 |
MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> If only my job let me work a midshift |
| 01:33 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> Erle: yes, look at recent changes |
| 01:34 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> The list of delete pages and their histories can be found there |
| 01:34 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> they left |
| 01:38 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> what even is a bouncer anway |
| 01:38 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> for reference, looks like guest users can see https://dev.minetest.net/Special:Log/delete but can't see the old text |
| 01:41 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> also for reference |
| 01:41 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1008913405144485929/unknown.png |
| 03:07 |
schwarzwald[m] |
I won't have a lot of time to do documentation; I started working towards getting the spatial indexing PR going again plus a project with a friend, so busy busy busy. |
| 04:00 |
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| 06:43 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> docs activity? woah! |
| 08:27 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> there's some useful stuff here: https://dev.minetest.net/Category:LuaTips |
| 08:31 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> unfortunately we chose CC-BY for the license of minetest_docs which means it'll be incompatible with anything else which is licensed under CC-BY-SA |
| 08:37 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> seems like a mistake |
| 08:44 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> yeah it's a pretty big mistake I feel like but it was decided on in the docs proposal |
| 08:46 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> well, you could look at the history and get permission from authors to relicense |
| 09:10 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> Anyway, you can't copyright facts. So maybe rewrite some of the tips into relevant sections |
| 09:10 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> having tip pages like this is an okay usecase for the dev wiki |
| 09:10 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> examples too |
| 09:10 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> the problem is with using the dev wiki as a reference |
| 09:10 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> which it sucks at |
| 09:13 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> Yes |
| 09:14 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> huh what? pretty sure you can always upgrade CC-BY to CC-BY-SA |
| 09:15 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> dev wiki is CC BY-SA, docs is CC BY |
| 09:16 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> so if you don't want to relicense docs then you'll need to get permission or rewrite |
| 09:19 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> you can always relicense the docs |
| 09:20 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> I'm aware |
| 09:20 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> > For example, CC BY is one-way compatible with BY-SA. You may adapt a BY work and apply BY-SA to your contributions, but you may not adapt a BY-SA work and apply BY to your contributions. |
| 09:20 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> I see no issue here |
| 09:20 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> if we want to integrate dev wiki content, we have to give proper attribution and relicense to SA |
| 09:20 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> I'm fully aware that you can relicense CC BY to CC BY-SA |
| 09:20 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> Oh wait |
| 09:20 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> by history I meant wiki history |
| 09:20 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> ah |
| 09:21 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> > well, you could look at the history and get permission from authors to relicense You can look at the wiki page history and get permission to relicense from CC BY-SA to CC BY |
| 09:21 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> most pages are 90% written by Wuzzy |
| 09:21 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> heh |
| 09:23 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> most of this doesn't really fit into a reference-style doc anyway |
| 09:23 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> some of it could be in tutorials, most of it is fine on the wiki |
| 09:33 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> relicensing the docs to CC-BY-SA would be the best thing to do though, it's significantly more common when it comes to minetest documentation |
| 09:34 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> is lua_api and the rest in doc/ licensed under LGPLv2.1 or CC-BY-SA? |
| 09:36 |
MTDiscord |
<rubenwardy> looks like LGPLv2.1 |
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| 13:13 |
MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> Well, we are trying to be both a reference and usage with this documentation, we want* to provide examples and explanations |
| 13:56 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> Second option please, i aint gonna be up at 1am(bst) on a saturday only to do a sprint Anyways im away currently so wouldn't be able to join until i get back (25th) |
| 13:56 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> Oops sorry, forgot to remove ping ? |
| 15:41 |
MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547 |
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