Time Nick Message 00:45 erle is it possible to get the history of deleted pages from the dev wiki? a lot of stuff seems to have been deleted recently without any redirect or replacement 00:46 erle and i'm not even sure if the pages were containing useful information (some wiki pages contain more information than lua_api.txt or how it is called) 00:46 erle but it's not really possible to check 00:46 MTDiscord they wherent 00:47 erle can i have them regardless, to double-check? 00:47 MTDiscord no idea, do pay attention https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=22469&p=413997#p413997 00:48 MTDiscord not to mention you arguably had 2? years to look at all the pages marked for deletion 00:48 erle what 00:48 erle i used these pages as reference, it's not like i even noticed these 450 pages were marked for deletion 00:49 MTDiscord This sounds like a job for the wayback machine 00:49 MTDiscord was in red at the top, for like 2 years, if you cant read... 00:49 erle how about you fuck your own face 00:49 erle i can read obviously 00:49 erle stop insulting me 00:50 MTDiscord This just feels like the opening to Hitchhiker's Guide 00:56 MTDiscord well that was uncalled for 00:57 MTDiscord (what erle said, not the hitchhiker reference) 01:23 MTDiscord @Minetest Docs Team https://github.com/minetest/minetest_docs/issues/38 01:26 MTDiscord I'll poke at it tomorrow, I (am supposed to) go to bed in 30 minutes 01:27 MTDiscord https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-james-go-to-sleep-gif-6146952 01:27 MTDiscord no rush, i tried to design it with roughly a week for each section 01:28 MTDiscord If only my job let me work a midshift 01:33 MTDiscord Erle: yes, look at recent changes 01:34 MTDiscord The list of delete pages and their histories can be found there 01:34 MTDiscord they left 01:38 MTDiscord what even is a bouncer anway 01:38 MTDiscord for reference, looks like guest users can see https://dev.minetest.net/Special:Log/delete but can't see the old text 01:41 MTDiscord also for reference 01:41 MTDiscord https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926231483155378176/1008913405144485929/unknown.png 03:07 schwarzwald[m] I won't have a lot of time to do documentation; I started working towards getting the spatial indexing PR going again plus a project with a friend, so busy busy busy. 06:43 MTDiscord docs activity? woah! 08:27 MTDiscord there's some useful stuff here: https://dev.minetest.net/Category:LuaTips 08:31 MTDiscord unfortunately we chose CC-BY for the license of minetest_docs which means it'll be incompatible with anything else which is licensed under CC-BY-SA 08:37 MTDiscord seems like a mistake 08:44 MTDiscord yeah it's a pretty big mistake I feel like but it was decided on in the docs proposal 08:46 MTDiscord well, you could look at the history and get permission from authors to relicense 09:10 MTDiscord Anyway, you can't copyright facts. So maybe rewrite some of the tips into relevant sections 09:10 MTDiscord having tip pages like this is an okay usecase for the dev wiki 09:10 MTDiscord examples too 09:10 MTDiscord the problem is with using the dev wiki as a reference 09:10 MTDiscord which it sucks at 09:13 MTDiscord Yes 09:14 MTDiscord huh what? pretty sure you can always upgrade CC-BY to CC-BY-SA 09:15 MTDiscord dev wiki is CC BY-SA, docs is CC BY 09:16 MTDiscord so if you don't want to relicense docs then you'll need to get permission or rewrite 09:19 MTDiscord you can always relicense the docs 09:20 MTDiscord I'm aware 09:20 MTDiscord > For example, CC BY is one-way compatible with BY-SA. You may adapt a BY work and apply BY-SA to your contributions, but you may not adapt a BY-SA work and apply BY to your contributions. 09:20 MTDiscord I see no issue here 09:20 MTDiscord if we want to integrate dev wiki content, we have to give proper attribution and relicense to SA 09:20 MTDiscord I'm fully aware that you can relicense CC BY to CC BY-SA 09:20 MTDiscord Oh wait 09:20 MTDiscord by history I meant wiki history 09:20 MTDiscord ah 09:21 MTDiscord > well, you could look at the history and get permission from authors to relicense You can look at the wiki page history and get permission to relicense from CC BY-SA to CC BY 09:21 MTDiscord most pages are 90% written by Wuzzy 09:21 MTDiscord heh 09:23 MTDiscord most of this doesn't really fit into a reference-style doc anyway 09:23 MTDiscord some of it could be in tutorials, most of it is fine on the wiki 09:33 MTDiscord relicensing the docs to CC-BY-SA would be the best thing to do though, it's significantly more common when it comes to minetest documentation 09:34 MTDiscord is lua_api and the rest in doc/ licensed under LGPLv2.1 or CC-BY-SA? 09:36 MTDiscord looks like LGPLv2.1 13:13 MTDiscord Well, we are trying to be both a reference and usage with this documentation, we want* to provide examples and explanations 13:56 MTDiscord Second option please, i aint gonna be up at 1am(bst) on a saturday only to do a sprint Anyways im away currently so wouldn't be able to join until i get back (25th) 13:56 MTDiscord Oops sorry, forgot to remove ping ? 15:41 MTDiscord https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547