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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> my 2c: I already trust Buckaroo with my user data on blockexchange |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> on another note: Could we get https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/14260 ? It would be the cherry on top of the recent mapgen thread work |
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<mistere_123> Currently adoption needed |
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sfan5 |
once we have a blog post ready someone should submit it to the subreddit |
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sfan5 |
rubenwardy: did you tweet about the release yet? |
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rubenwardy |
Waiting for a blog post |
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rubenwardy |
Which I believe luantic is working on? |
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sfan5 |
i see |
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sfan5 |
did someone update https://content.minetest.net/packages/Minetest/devtest/ and also the versions on cdb? |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> I am working on a blog post, yes |
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sfan5 |
please review #15388 so we can merge it before other work on the collision code happens |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15388 -- [no sq] Add unit tests for collisionMoveSimple by sfan5 |
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ROllerozxa |
rubenwardy: what is the current rollout for 5.10.0 on google play, still 10%? |
| 16:53 |
ROllerozxa |
I received an email from a teacher of a school in Scotland about how they had been using ROllertest for their students on Chromebooks since the newer versions of Minetest (5.9) had broken the controls there, but I had taken down ROllertest from Play store a day or so ago. I tested with Luanti 5.10.0 in an emulator and the mouse-keyboard control scheme now works fully when the touchscreen controls are disabled in the settings |
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ROllerozxa |
compared to 5.9, so it would be nice if they could get access to the new update |
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Krock |
sfan5: uploaded 5.10.0 devtest. https://content.luanti.org/packages/Minetest/devtest/releases/28405/edit/ someone please approve (just to be sure) |
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[MatrxMT] |
<grorp> rollerozxa: it shouldn't even be necessary to change the settings, with 5.10.0 the kb/mouse controls should just work ("auto-toggling") |
| 17:53 |
[MatrxMT] |
<grorp> but perhaps that doesn't work in an emulator, if mouse input simulates touch input there |
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ROllerozxa |
I see, well I mentioned the setting just in case. but the chromebooks didn't have any touch support so it may default to keyboard and mouse controls then |
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Krock |
sfan5: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/15388/files#diff-3f731fd96ee2702137e3c8e5736b1df7718db6e49e557c52afaaf7cb26f299bcR230 why 1.5 ? The object is located at (4, 1, 4), thus should collide with the nodes at y=0. Hence shouldn't it be y=0.5 ? |
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sfan5 |
accel is upwards |
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Krock |
oh indeed. Makes sense. Thanks. |
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sfan5 |
also even if it went down the cbox intentionally does not have that weird 0.5 offset |
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Krock |
this also means that pos_max_d is not respected? |
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sfan5 |
I have no idea what pos_max_d does |
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Krock |
hehe. it's an unused variable. |
| 18:04 |
Krock |
you could as well set it to // TODO: removeme 8) |
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sfan5 |
🤦 |
| 18:07 |
Krock |
you might also like to use { } around individual tests to separate them better. That's just a personal preference, though. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Why not use Catch? These could be properly named SECTIONs then. |
| 18:11 |
sfan5 |
the existing file does not use catch |
| 18:12 |
Krock |
we kind of already have a test framework. just not as sophisticated as it would be possible with catch2 |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> I know, I prefer catch2 |
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Krock |
(by "test framework" I mean the test modules and the code around it for our unittests) |
| 18:14 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> But I won't impose. Just jumped in to say that I think // frobnication \n { ... } is less nice than SECTION("frobnication") { ... }. |
| 18:15 |
Krock |
fair enough |
| 18:16 |
Krock |
> Frobnicate is a placeholder term in computer science used to represent a placeholder, undefined, or unknown action or functionality, often in documentation or code. |
| 18:17 |
Krock |
interesting. kinda similar to Lorem Ipsum (text) and Foo Bar Baz (variables) |
| 18:23 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> Krock: btw the changelog contains two minor errors. i would fix them myself but i don't have a wiki account. |
| 18:24 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> "Improved collision detection at high dtime (lag) (kno10)" needs to be removed or annotated since it ended up being reverted. |
| 18:24 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> The driver bug workaround should be attributed to sfan5 who first proposed it. |
| 18:24 |
Krock |
anything else? |
| 18:26 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> not anything i see right now |
| 18:26 |
Krock |
thanks. corrected. |
| 18:26 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> @celeron55 for the future: how do i best obtain a wiki account? |
| 18:28 |
Krock |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=437468 should be updated to list the people with permissions |
| 18:28 |
sfan5 |
i think wuzzy can create some |
| 18:30 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> I will shoot Wuzzy a message on Matrix |
| 18:46 |
sfan5 |
Krock: please re-check the PR |
| 18:52 |
Krock |
> Temporary option for old move code |
| 18:52 |
Krock |
so it has become permanent now? |
| 18:56 |
sfan5 |
of course |
| 18:57 |
Krock |
rereviewed |
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sfan5 |
thought: we could get some performance wins by rendering CAOs in a different order, grouped by same material |
| 20:40 |
Krock |
CAOs aren't necessarily used in large quantities, but it could help a bit. |
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sfan5 |
uhh |
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sfan5 |
mobs?? |
| 20:43 |
sfan5 |
different question: do we have test entities with transparency in devtest? |
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Krock |
I was more thinking about dropped items |
| 20:43 |
Krock |
not that I'd know. |
| 20:45 |
sfan5 |
hmm though actually mobs will not share the same VBOs, since animations are done in software |
| 20:46 |
sfan5 |
🤷 |
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SFENCE_arch |
The macOS build is in the notarization process. It probably went through the scripted part and it now waiting for a manual check from an Apple employer. |
| 20:52 |
sfan5 |
nice |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> let's first reunfucktor skeletal animations ;) |
| 21:04 |
sfan5 |
i lack experience and knowledge with graphics, but i don't think there are any low-hanging fruits to improve rendering performance in MT currently |
| 21:04 |
sfan5 |
except 2d batching for GUIs but that's secondary |
| 21:06 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> moving skeletal animation to the GPU isn't very low-hanging but it is doable |
| 21:08 |
sfan5 |
will that improve performance? it's not like doing some trigonometry on the cpu is slow |
| 21:10 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> sfan5: it's a lot of linear algebra you're doing on the CPU, you have to transform every vertex. for a hotfix optimizing the CPU skinning manually might be an option but we really want to be doing this on the GPU. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> see e.g. #13043 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13043 -- CSkinnedMesh.* consumes a lot of CPU (with many mobs) |
| 21:10 |
sfan5 |
ah I see |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> I've written a first draft for the release blog post: blog#154 |
| 22:22 |
pgimeno |
https://github.com/minetest/blog/pull/154 -- 5.10.0 release blog post first draft by appgurueu |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Thanks pgimeno-bot |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> I will take a look at it in a bit |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Thanks |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> I've requested to join the minetestdevs team on launchpad. Do we now want to set up another team called luantidevs given the rename? |
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