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13:47 [MatrxMT] <grorp> unfortunately, we have a tie
13:48 [MatrxMT] <grorp> Minetest's definition of "release candidate" is really just "forum post with builds attached", isn't it?
13:50 [MatrxMT] <grorp> s/Minetest/Luanti/ :D
14:34 MTDiscord <rudzik8> so that would mean in the middle of the game jam?
14:38 MTDiscord <rudzik8> - rules of the game jam say that the game should work on latest stable version - gltf support is coming -> would it safe to start working with 5.10-dev (and its features)? can we expect it to release by the end of the jam?
14:40 [MatrxMT] <grorp> release candidate forum post proposal: https://gist.github.com/grorp/ed31a513a405d7a58276ef1d975abc50. comments? haven't yet tested the Windows builds.
14:49 [MatrxMT] <grorp> (I just took the latest mingw builds from CI and removed one layer of zip)
14:50 MTDiscord <luatic> grorp: personally I consider the observers feature a highlight too but I'm not impartial ;) also the IPC API
14:52 MTDiscord <luatic> also worth considering: #14966
14:52 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14966 -- some adjustments to the release process needed
14:52 MTDiscord <luatic> should we tag the RC this time?
14:52 MTDiscord <luatic> i hardly see a reason not to do it tbh
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16:23 [MatrxMT] <Zughy> Yep, observers definitely a highlight!
16:24 [MatrxMT] <Zughy> I'd like to put a bounty on #15320 but only if some core dev approves it first
16:24 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15320 -- Scale ObjRef nametags according to distance
17:20 [MatrxMT] <grorp> tagging makes sense, but I'd just tag an existing commit, not do special cmake stuff like for a release
17:25 [MatrxMT] <grorp> luatic: added object observers, added a little [b] to make it look less boring. any further comments?
18:01 MTDiscord <luatic> grorp: as far as the post is concerned, that should be fine.
18:02 MTDiscord <luatic> i'm still wondering how to best notify package maintainers. i might ask around a bit.
18:07 [MatrxMT] <grorp> nice, then I'll publish the post soon. perhaps you'd like to do the tag?
18:13 MTDiscord <luatic> grorp: sure, I would tag it as 5.10.0-rc1; do we want to still get a few trivial things in?
18:13 MTDiscord <luatic> e.g. the PR you just opened
18:14 [MatrxMT] <grorp> sure
18:16 MTDiscord <luatic> ok then merging #15359, #15357, #15363 in 5m
18:16 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15359 -- Don't memset SEvent v2 by sfan5
18:16 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15357 -- Change Minetest to Luanti in .github/ files by Emojigit
18:16 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15363 -- Fix some broken icons in the CDB dialog on Windows by grorp
18:24 MTDiscord <luatic> done
18:25 MTDiscord <luatic> oh wait there was something else
18:26 MTDiscord <luatic> I wanted to remove the OGL3 driver from settingtypes since we're disabling SDL for this release
18:29 [MatrxMT] <grorp> I think that's unnecessary. you get an error message and automatic fallback if it's unsupported, and this is an advanced setting not intended for normal users anyway. we don't remove ogles2 from settingtypes.txt for desktop builds where it's unavailable either.
18:29 [ would removing it from settingtypes make it unusable if you compile with SDL support?
18:30 MTDiscord <luatic> okay
18:30 [ I compile with SDL support because I care more about native wayland support than the keybinding thing
18:30 MTDiscord <luatic> it wouldn't be unusable, you could still set it in the conf file, but the settings GUI wouldn't understand it
18:31 MTDiscord <luatic> but yeah i see that just removing it isn't a good idea, scrap that
18:33 MTDiscord <luatic> if no one resists in a couple minutes, i'd tag 5c5538685e59012727758ebc8228979ef7706700 (current master) as the RC once CI passes
18:51 MTDiscord <luatic> tagged as 5.10.0-rc1
19:00 [MatrxMT] <grorp> forum post published too: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=31095
19:08 [MatrxMT] <Zughy> Nice job :)
19:18 Krock oh right. the changelog!
19:19 Krock is anyone currently working on that or may I begin?
19:23 [MatrxMT] <grorp> I am not
19:30 Krock On it.
19:31 Krock grorp: compat question. do system-wide installs still make active use of ~/.minetest/, or only if such path exists?
19:34 [MatrxMT] <grorp> .minetest and minetest.conf are not renamed (yet)
19:34 Krock alright. thanks.
19:35 [MatrxMT] <grorp> thanks for working on the changelog
19:48 Krock no problem
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20:41 Krock saved for now. will probably continue tomorrow.
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22:04 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Im going to take a risk and allow jam games to target 5.10.0... hopefully that doesnt bite me
22:05 MTDiscord <luatic> I don't see why it would
22:05 MTDiscord <greenxenith> If it isnt released before the jam ends, users wont be able to run 5.10 games
22:06 MTDiscord <greenxenith> But you'd hope 3 weeks is enough time to test the candidate and ship
22:06 MTDiscord <luatic> absolutely
22:06 MTDiscord <greenxenith> And heck, people making jam games might be testing the rc for you
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