Time Nick Message 13:47 [MatrxMT] unfortunately, we have a tie 13:48 [MatrxMT] Minetest's definition of "release candidate" is really just "forum post with builds attached", isn't it? 13:50 [MatrxMT] s/Minetest/Luanti/ :D 14:34 MTDiscord so that would mean in the middle of the game jam? 14:38 MTDiscord - rules of the game jam say that the game should work on latest stable version - gltf support is coming -> would it safe to start working with 5.10-dev (and its features)? can we expect it to release by the end of the jam? 14:40 [MatrxMT] release candidate forum post proposal: https://gist.github.com/grorp/ed31a513a405d7a58276ef1d975abc50. comments? haven't yet tested the Windows builds. 14:49 [MatrxMT] (I just took the latest mingw builds from CI and removed one layer of zip) 14:50 MTDiscord grorp: personally I consider the observers feature a highlight too but I'm not impartial ;) also the IPC API 14:52 MTDiscord also worth considering: #14966 14:52 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14966 -- some adjustments to the release process needed 14:52 MTDiscord should we tag the RC this time? 14:52 MTDiscord i hardly see a reason not to do it tbh 16:23 [MatrxMT] Yep, observers definitely a highlight! 16:24 [MatrxMT] I'd like to put a bounty on #15320 but only if some core dev approves it first 16:24 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15320 -- Scale ObjRef nametags according to distance 17:20 [MatrxMT] tagging makes sense, but I'd just tag an existing commit, not do special cmake stuff like for a release 17:25 [MatrxMT] luatic: added object observers, added a little [b] to make it look less boring. any further comments? 18:01 MTDiscord grorp: as far as the post is concerned, that should be fine. 18:02 MTDiscord i'm still wondering how to best notify package maintainers. i might ask around a bit. 18:07 [MatrxMT] nice, then I'll publish the post soon. perhaps you'd like to do the tag? 18:13 MTDiscord grorp: sure, I would tag it as 5.10.0-rc1; do we want to still get a few trivial things in? 18:13 MTDiscord e.g. the PR you just opened 18:14 [MatrxMT] sure 18:16 MTDiscord ok then merging #15359, #15357, #15363 in 5m 18:16 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15359 -- Don't memset SEvent v2 by sfan5 18:16 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15357 -- Change Minetest to Luanti in .github/ files by Emojigit 18:16 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15363 -- Fix some broken icons in the CDB dialog on Windows by grorp 18:24 MTDiscord done 18:25 MTDiscord oh wait there was something else 18:26 MTDiscord I wanted to remove the OGL3 driver from settingtypes since we're disabling SDL for this release 18:29 [MatrxMT] I think that's unnecessary. you get an error message and automatic fallback if it's unsupported, and this is an advanced setting not intended for normal users anyway. we don't remove ogles2 from settingtypes.txt for desktop builds where it's unavailable either. 18:29 [ would removing it from settingtypes make it unusable if you compile with SDL support? 18:30 MTDiscord okay 18:30 [ I compile with SDL support because I care more about native wayland support than the keybinding thing 18:30 MTDiscord it wouldn't be unusable, you could still set it in the conf file, but the settings GUI wouldn't understand it 18:31 MTDiscord but yeah i see that just removing it isn't a good idea, scrap that 18:33 MTDiscord if no one resists in a couple minutes, i'd tag 5c5538685e59012727758ebc8228979ef7706700 (current master) as the RC once CI passes 18:51 MTDiscord tagged as 5.10.0-rc1 19:00 [MatrxMT] forum post published too: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=31095 19:08 [MatrxMT] Nice job :) 19:18 Krock oh right. the changelog! 19:19 Krock is anyone currently working on that or may I begin? 19:23 [MatrxMT] I am not 19:30 Krock On it. 19:31 Krock grorp: compat question. do system-wide installs still make active use of ~/.minetest/, or only if such path exists? 19:34 [MatrxMT] .minetest and minetest.conf are not renamed (yet) 19:34 Krock alright. thanks. 19:35 [MatrxMT] thanks for working on the changelog 19:48 Krock no problem 20:41 Krock saved for now. will probably continue tomorrow. 22:04 MTDiscord Im going to take a risk and allow jam games to target 5.10.0... hopefully that doesnt bite me 22:05 MTDiscord I don't see why it would 22:05 MTDiscord If it isnt released before the jam ends, users wont be able to run 5.10 games 22:06 MTDiscord But you'd hope 3 weeks is enough time to test the candidate and ship 22:06 MTDiscord absolutely 22:06 MTDiscord And heck, people making jam games might be testing the rc for you