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SFENCE_arch |
i did some License info replacements in #15321. Do we want it to be part of 5.10 milestone? |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15321 -- Replace licensing text in headers (LGPL 2.1). by sfence |
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Topic for #minetest-dev is now FEATURE FREEZE IN EFFECT SINCE 2024-10-13. Luanti (fka Minetest) core development and maintenance. Chit chat goes to #minetest. https://dev.minetest.net/ https://irc.minetest.net/ https://github.com/minetest |
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Topic for #minetest-dev is now FEATURE FREEZE IN EFFECT SINCE 2024-10-13. Luanti (fka Minetest) core development and maintenance. Chit chat goes to #minetest. https://dev.minetest.net/ https://irc.minetest.net/ https://github.com/minetest |
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sfan5 |
no hurry imo |
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MTDiscord |
<zmv7> About -400KB if my calculations are correct 😉 |
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#15294 has one approval, so I could merge it. It's not a simple PR though, so perhaps somebody wants to give it another review? sfan5, you requested your review earlier. |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15294 -- Rename to Luanti by grorp |
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sfan5 |
I wanted to still test backwards compat with run_in_place=0 |
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grorp |
ok 👍 |
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sfan5 |
merging #15315, #15316 in like 5m |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15315 -- Revert "Use EGL over GLX" by sfan5 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15316 -- `core.after`: Improve documentation details about how `time` is handled by Desour |
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Wuzzy |
in the Minetest Wiki and Minetest Developer Wiki (still not renamed btw), is it possible to search for "Minetest" but skip all instances of "Minetest Game"? Would make the renaming so much easier |
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Wuzzy |
Also, is there a way to ignore all non-English pages in the search? They clutter up my results as well |
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Wuzzy |
I've already did a ton of replacements in both wikis so far, but i got no idea what ive overlooked |
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MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> Wuzzy: you can do a export of the wiki contents and run grep or similar on the XML data and filter to how you please locally |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> Can I make a wish and add a PR in the 5.11 milestone as I did with 5.10? It'd be #14427, mostly because I fear the author might enjoy a bath in frustration after all this time |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14427 -- Dual wielding (revival) by Andrey2470T |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> I'm not even interested in what the PR introduces, for my personal projects I mean |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> IIRC Andrey was working on a generic HUD mesh API that should supercede that entirely |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> Oh I thought they changed idea in the end. But I'm probably wrong, sooo.. Never mind |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> I wouldnt know ... @andrey2470t? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> I'll keep my wish for something else :^] |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> should our conf file parser support BOMs? some "editors" produce them which can lead to funny surprises |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> bom? |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> unicode byte order mark |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> ah, thanks |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> specifically we just had someone on discord who used libre office to edit their mod.conf (lol) and put depends = ... on the first line, and due to the BOM that was then parsed as ["<BOM>depends"] = ... so their dependencies weren't registered properly |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> If we wanted to be all fancy we could even try to detect encoding this way, but I think it would be good enough to check for a UTF-8 BOM and skip that if present (and error if a UTF-16 BOM is present so that mismatched encodings can be detected). Thoughts? |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Detecting non-plain-text and throwing a meaningful error could be nice too. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> I think we do want to support UTF-8 generally |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Either skipping the BOM, using the BOM, or disallowing text files that contain one could all be sane options. |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> It's not 100% reliable to detect invalid plaintext files, but I think there are ways to detect invalid byte sequences in UTF-8, as not ever byte sequence is valid. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> indeed |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> tbh we should probably reject utf8 in setting keys but i'd be afraid this breaks someone's german setting names or something |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> s/utf8/unicode that is not printable ascii |
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MTDiscord |
<andrey2470t> @Zughy I may probably continue working on the mesh HUD, but I doubt it will get ready to 5.11, since this is a non-trivial feature and there's even no a PR yet. Also tbh I don't see any interest in the dual wielding itself from others during many months (is it worth to suffer on this feature at all and on a whole code which it requires to refactor/alter in order to obtain the maximal flexibility and benefit from that if it doesn't |
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MTDiscord |
just get any feedback/review as it is probably not the high-priority?) |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> I think you'll obtain more interest from modders than core devs in general |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> As a modder/gamedev, I hate the idea of adding yet another Minecraft-ism and opinionated game feature when the fundamental basis of it (configurable HUD meshes) is far more useful to everyone and more in-line with the values of an engine |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> I probably agree |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> And from a time investment standpoint: Both features will take time to complete (since it sounds like the dual wield needs refactoring); So you could spend some time finishing the lesser PR (which fewer will use) for 5.11, then get the better PR in 5.13, or spend the time working on the better PR (which more will use) in time for 5.12. Those are examples, of course. |
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MTDiscord |
<andrey2470t> But modders are not mostly the reviewers of the engine code and also only the core devs can approve and merge PRs. So, if they are not interested, how would that feature be brought in the engine? |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> That is a whole different can of worms :^) |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Fortunately, in this particular instance, coredevs and modders should be far more interested in a general hud mesh API than a hyper-specific one |
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<greenxenith> ("Should" being the operative word ... a loud minority may disagree) |
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<andrey2470t> I think it is worth to open an issue for a start for discussing on the details on the general code refactoring and a new API spec |
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MTDiscord |
<andrey2470t> Although actually I already implemented a big part of the API, but it is to know more exact whether it is done in a correct manner now or not |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Good for a draft PR then, yeah? |
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MTDiscord |
<andrey2470t> Well or I can create immediately a draft PR |
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Juri |
pebkac or does the util/wireshark/minetest.lua from master not work with wireshark 4.4.1 ? |
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Juri |
i'm in the wrong irc channel again, right? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> andrey2470t: I suggest you to create an issue first, as I'd like to avoid labelling that PR as "Roadmap: needs approval" |
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MTDiscord |
<andrey2470t> Zughy: ok, then I'll do so |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> thank you :) |
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