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00:32 lhofhansl Hello. Merging #14251 in a few.
00:32 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14251 -- Slight optimizations in ClientMap by lhofhansl
00:53 lhofhansl Done
01:42 rubenwardy sfan5: the result was no change. Except sscsm was ranked a lot higher than before
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02:16 lhofhansl If someone could put #13956 through the wringer and try it out that would be helpful!
02:16 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13956 -- Continuation of x2048's Cascaded Shadows by lhofhansl
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11:18 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> Any news about Lizzy? I'm talking about #11016
11:18 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11016 -- Dual Wielding by LizzyFleckenstein03
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14:23 sfan5 still hoping for a quick approval on #14238
14:23 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14238 -- [no squash] Unittest and some documentation things by sfan5
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14:34 grorp I'm hoping for someone to review #14118, now that the Irrlicht SDL touchscreen PR is merged
14:34 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14118 -- Don't enable relative mouse mode if in touchscreen mode by grorp
14:34 grorp (I unfortunately have too little knowledge about the pseudorandom stuff to review your PR)
14:43 sfan5 it depends on the exact feature or changes but I often don't do extensive reviews of other coredevs PRs. I just trust them to be correct.
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15:19 Krock sfan5: about 14238 I wonder whether such instructions wouldn't fit better into the dev wiki for easier navigation and quicker updates
15:20 Krock or was the goal explicitly to move the documentation to the repo?
15:32 sfan5 IMO development docs make more sense in the repo
15:36 nrz i totally agree on that point sfan5
15:36 nrz docsy is the best framework we tested and are using massively for architecture an code design at work, it's very nice to generate pages with code
15:47 Krock well except that most of the development docs is in the wiki. having similar information spread in two different places is not so optional in mid-term
15:48 Krock the other changes work so far so I'll still approve the PR for the sake of thos
15:48 Krock +e
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16:10 sfan5 I listed the three pages that I actually use in the README
16:10 sfan5 do you use any other?
16:20 sfan5 okay I see it contains quite a few pages describing the architecture in the 'core' category
16:20 sfan5 they are mostly outdated (think 0.4 level) but in large parts still useful
16:23 sfan5 then there's some advice intended for modders, I think that should go elsewhere
16:28 Krock I also use the code style guidelines which are already referenced in CONFRIBUTING.md
16:29 Krock guidelines overall, I suppose.
16:29 celeron55 as the person who hosts the devwiki i would agree it doesn't seem to be the ideal place for anything it contains. it's mostly a museum
16:31 celeron55 but on the other hand many things in there don't have a proper place to go. it's arguable how much we want to define our organization in the source code repo, for example
16:32 celeron55 the architecture descriptions are outdated but still very useful in understanding minetest - the repo could host them, if they were brought properly up to date
16:33 celeron55 there has been multiple efforts trying to move the modding stuff elsewhere from th devwiki, i don't know how many are still needed for that part to become completely irrelevant
16:33 rubenwardy I suggest we move dev docs to the repo, modding hints to minetest_docs or wiki, and then get rid or devwiki
16:36 celeron55 the only times i use the devwiki are when i introduce a new core dev to this https://dev.minetest.net/All_rules_regarding_to_development
16:37 celeron55 do you think those could be moved to the repo?
16:37 Krock could. question is whether someone is willing to do that
16:39 rubenwardy Having two wikis doesn't really make sense. Even if we do still need a dev wiki, it could be merged into the wiki wiki. In the repo makes sense to me
16:41 celeron55 even i don't remember why it's set up like this. i think xyz set them up, and maybe he copied the idea from some other project which had it like this, or something
16:42 Krock to be fair, it's better for file hosting - such as images explaining steps in a GUI or providing examples which otherwise would bloat Git
16:43 Krock either way - as long similar topics are in a similar place I'm fine with that
16:43 celeron55 might have to limit graphics to svg if they're on a git repo
16:55 sfan5 updated the PR a bit
17:02 MTDiscord <luatic> pushing https://gist.github.com/appgurueu/468f6f9d95ff5fc8589abc4341b69e59 in 10m
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17:13 MTDiscord <luatic> pushed
17:21 nrz celeron55, anything can be done, docsy is pure markdown with files using hugo to generate. It's like https://kubernetes.io/docs/home/ render, you can customize it obvisouly. As gitlab pages in the devel repo we can do anyuthing we want an use a subdomain of minetest.net like docs.minetest.net for this
17:22 nrz also docsy permits to use various branches, permitting if we want to have doc for main branche and one for each tag
17:26 Desour luatic: it's kinda weird nobody noticed this memleak with leaksan. are you sure the Mesh member is meant to be owning?
17:26 Desour (congratz to becoming coredev btw!)
17:27 MTDiscord <luatic> Desour: animated scene nodes call grab(), so they also have to call drop(). You can compare this with non-animated scene nodes which already properly call drop() in the destructor.
17:28 MTDiscord <luatic> also thanks :)
17:30 Desour ah I see
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17:46 lhofhansl Merging #14185 in a few.
17:46 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14185 -- Allow active blocks to be generated by lhofhansl
18:27 lhofhansl Done
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18:41 grorp hey Krock, did you see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14188#issuecomment-1879655424 ?
18:44 grorp merging #14118, #14209, #14247 in 15 min
18:44 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14118 -- Don't enable relative mouse mode if in touchscreen mode by grorp
18:44 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14209 -- Android: Use the correct value for notification by srifqi
18:44 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14247 -- Document settings API behavior regarding default values by grorp
19:02 grorp done.
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23:23 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> Meeting notice added, 2024/01/21 (in 7 days). Tomorrow is definitely a skip, too little time
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