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MTDiscord |
</g/> Just passing by to thank you for your continued work on improving MT sfan5 |
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rubenwardy |
!title https://twitter.com/Mansimvula/status/1498189808291692545 |
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ShadowBot |
rubenwardy: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title. |
| 16:55 |
rubenwardy |
someone asking for info about Pi4 |
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sfan5 |
if I had an rpi to actually test stuff I'd have worked towards an easy installation experience before |
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sfan5 |
(which would include publishing an official deb) |
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rubenwardy |
could ask c55 to get you one |
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rubenwardy |
not that they're not super available |
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sfan5 |
well yeah they're hard to get atm |
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rubenwardy |
ah yeah, chip shortage |
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sfan5 |
and I guess I could do half the work on a generic ARM SBC anyway |
| 17:12 |
sfan5 |
the interesting part is good default settings and making sure the user enables the vc4 opengl driver for proper performance |
| 17:21 |
celeron55 |
i might have a half working raspberry pi somewhere |
| 17:22 |
celeron55 |
it's a weird prospect to develop an installation process for hardware that nobody can get in more than year though |
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erlehmann |
well i have a reform 1 |
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erlehmann |
there exist only 13 as far as i know |
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erlehmann |
still, some people shared stuff online about it |
| 17:24 |
erlehmann |
i think the problem with raspi stuff is that it is always so convoluted |
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erlehmann |
and rarely knowledge transfers well. we had a thing with rp3 vs rp3b+ at work. software ran on one but not the other. |
| 17:25 |
celeron55 |
well, you can make sd card images, and if you have a new kernel the same image will work on many rpi versions |
| 17:25 |
celeron55 |
but not sure if it makes sense here |
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celeron55 |
probably not |
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erlehmann |
well in the case of 3b vs 3b+ you needed an additional device tree file in the image i think |
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erlehmann |
or maybe just new firmware, i don't know. but you are not building a ready-made-image, are you? |
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erlehmann |
just trying to get compilation instructions and good defaults? |
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celeron55 |
ok so my stock of raspberry pis: 1) 3b with the ethrenet and USB ports crossed out by myself - probably the processor works but the i/o chip is toast, you could solder a usb port directly to the processor in place of the i/o chip 2) 3b with the marking "heats up"... i recall it just gets super hot but works otherwise, 3) 2b with a slightly broken sd card slot but otherwise works i guess |
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erlehmann |
he, i encountered a “heats up” 3b too. i think they have a lesser lifetime, at one point they may no longer boot (but still heat up lol) |
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celeron55 |
well, it could be plenty enough for what sfan5's is looking to do |
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celeron55 |
sfan5* |
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erlehmann |
indeed, but the person who asks has rpi 4 |
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erlehmann |
i think it might just make sense to let the submitter write the instructions as a PR? |
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erlehmann |
after all, they did make it run somehow |
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MTDiscord |
<j45> i have an rpi right on my desk, can i help? |
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celeron55 |
i think it's fully within reasonable use of the donation money to buy a rpi4b for the 100€ that it costs now if a core developer wants to develop on one |
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rubenwardy |
celeron55: schools already have loads of them |
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celeron55 |
(well you do need the power brick also, a cheap phone charger won't work) |
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erlehmann |
is this the rpi that has a brownout if you turn on networking without having the power brick? ^^ |
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MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> doesn't minetest already exist in the raspbian repositories? |
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sfan5 |
in an outdated version, yes |
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sfan5 |
and it won't be set up to use GLES |
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twrightsman[m] |
sfan5: I have 5.5.0 packaged for Debian, just need to get it reviewed and uploaded to the official repos, then it can trickle down to Raspbian |
| 18:15 |
sfan5 |
sure thanks for your effort, it'll unfortunately still take a while until it arrives there |
| 18:16 |
twrightsman[m] |
<sfan5> "and it won't be set up to use..." <- If you have any pointers on how to enable that, I can add that to the Debian packaging |
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erlehmann |
twrightsman[m] i think you'd have to create two versions of the library? bc that is a compile time thing now? |
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erlehmann |
not sure |
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erlehmann |
depending on hardware you get 10 fps more with GLES, which can be difference between playable and unplayable |
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erlehmann |
(i have both hardware where GLES tanks framerate and some where it gives me more frames) |
| 18:18 |
erlehmann |
raspbian should probably be able to have exact compile options for their target platform (because it is so little hardware) |
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erlehmann |
always GLES etc. |
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