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| 00:05 |
hecks |
no that's normals you're thinking of |
| 00:06 |
hecks |
a tangent is an extra vector that tells you which way in 3D space does the texcoord X axis run |
| 00:06 |
hecks |
together with the normal it can be used to reconstruct a tangent space for normal mapping and other effects that need it |
| 00:07 |
hecks |
if we do not use normal maps, we can get away with just position, texcoord, normal, color |
| 00:07 |
hecks |
and most of these probably need not be high precision |
| 00:07 |
hecks |
possibly none |
| 00:24 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> fair nuff |
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| 01:09 |
kilbith |
two missing `size_t` cast here: |
| 01:09 |
kilbith |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/settings.cpp#L52 |
| 01:09 |
kilbith |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/settings.cpp#L75 |
| 01:10 |
kilbith |
(GCC warnings) |
| 01:13 |
rubenwardy |
I was wondering what the sentiment of adding something like Sentry to the Play Store version of the Android app would be |
| 01:14 |
rubenwardy |
Sentry posts crash reports with stack traces and recent actions, there's no personal information. Google Play has something similar but it's not very capable |
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| 01:14 |
rubenwardy |
debugging Android is such a pain |
| 01:15 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> the words you can't bring yourself to say are: unsupported platform |
| 01:16 |
rubenwardy |
I'll see if there's any way to make Google Play error reporting more useful - it gives you stacktraces at least, but they don't work on C++ currently due to missing debug symbols |
| 01:29 |
rubenwardy |
Crashes page on Play: https://rwdy.uk/7IyFA.png |
| 01:32 |
rubenwardy |
just a few crashes |
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sfan5 |
reminder #11287 |
| 12:13 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11287 -- Take advantage of IrrlichtMt target by JosiahWI |
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| 16:30 |
rubenwardy |
RE: new mainmenu |
| 16:31 |
rubenwardy |
PR to add policy regarding features games (and other packages): cdb#323 |
| 16:31 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/contentdb/issues/323 -- Add policy on Featured Packages by rubenwardy |
| 16:35 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Where there are fields for things in CDB (such as source control) I'd make it explicit that we prefer the proper field actually be filled in, rather than it just being mentioned somewhere. |
| 16:36 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> re: screenshot.png, isn't 320x240 also a minimum reasonable resolution for that? |
| 16:37 |
rubenwardy |
that standard applies to all users though |
| 16:37 |
rubenwardy |
*packages |
| 16:37 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Eh, I thought it'd be just one or two things, but I might as well just add a comment to the PR directly. I also have an issue with the 1080p requirement for screencaps; making it a hard limit like that would render all my packages completely ineligible. |
| 16:41 |
sfan5 |
haven't read the issue, here's a simple test: can MTG be featured under these rules? |
| 16:45 |
rubenwardy |
No lol |
| 16:45 |
rubenwardy |
Yeah, maybe the requirement should be 720p |
| 16:45 |
rubenwardy |
Which would allow 1366x768 screens |
| 16:46 |
rubenwardy |
MTG would meet the quality requirements, but not the maintenance or fun requirements |
| 16:46 |
rubenwardy |
Although, maybe you'd consider the modding ecosystem as part of the fun |
| 16:46 |
rubenwardy |
You'd probably need to, given how so many mods are for MTG |
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| 16:47 |
sfan5 |
maintenance is a real issue |
| 16:47 |
rubenwardy |
Well actually, it would meet the maintenance requirements. It's well maintained in terms of bug fixes and such |
| 16:47 |
sfan5 |
since I'm pretty sure we want to feature it since that's what like half of players are still playing |
| 16:47 |
sfan5 |
(and obviously it should conform to the general rules and not have a special exception) |
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| 17:07 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I think MTG would not meet the usability requirements because in order to be playable users need to mod it, and first-time users won't know how to do that. I think the proper way to get MTG to be featured is to have somebody actually maintain an already-somewhat-modded version of MTG and feature that instead as a reasonable new-player experience. |
| 17:08 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I was actually hoping dreambuilder might fill this role, but dreambuilder might be a little TOO rich of an experience for what we want to feature, I'm not sure. Granted, it's also I think somewhat more likely that the most naive new users are likely to have more powerful machines than old salt like us. |
| 17:09 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I don't think we should interpret "featured" as "this is what people are playing" so much as "this is what people (especially new users) should try". |
| 17:09 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I think Featured is also especially focused on SP, since for MP you'd feature servers instead of packages (and that'd be a feature for the server list, not CDB) |
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| 17:49 |
rubenwardy |
Haha, someone recommended the featured slots be paid |
| 17:49 |
rubenwardy |
Perhaps I should call it "Recommended" rather than "featured" |
| 17:49 |
rubenwardy |
Although, recommended implies more of an algorithm |
| 17:51 |
Krock |
so.. someone recommended the recommended slots to be paid |
| 17:58 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> "recommended implies an algorithm" ... oh wow, how did we arrive at this point? O_O |
| 17:59 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> My original idea for the name had "Editors'" in it, as in "Editors' Choice" or "Editors' Recommendations" to make the origin clear, though there is a counterargument to be made against the verbosity. |
| 18:28 |
celeron55_ |
well having a paid slot as one of the featured slots or so could make sense, given there's some obvious target for the funds |
| 18:29 |
celeron55_ |
like the hosting costs of contentdb itself |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
I assume a less slow forum is not fixable with money ;) |
| 18:30 |
specing |
Minetest needs microtransations to get popular |
| 18:30 |
specing |
clearly |
| 18:30 |
celeron55_ |
sfan5: well... ...it might be |
| 18:31 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Find out if anyone would even be willing to pay before we start thinking about how this would work ... and whether any of the people who would be willing to pay are ones we would actually be willing to accept as representing the project in any way. |
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rubenwardy |
The hosting costs of ContentDB are luckily covered by ContentDB |
| 19:01 |
rubenwardy |
Oops |
| 19:01 |
rubenwardy |
My patreon |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> you do realise i could fill that slot for the next decade and have no negatives right |
| 20:05 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> i mean it's not like i already pay the bills for it |
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