Time Nick Message 00:05 hecks no that's normals you're thinking of 00:06 hecks a tangent is an extra vector that tells you which way in 3D space does the texcoord X axis run 00:06 hecks together with the normal it can be used to reconstruct a tangent space for normal mapping and other effects that need it 00:07 hecks if we do not use normal maps, we can get away with just position, texcoord, normal, color 00:07 hecks and most of these probably need not be high precision 00:07 hecks possibly none 00:24 MTDiscord fair nuff 01:09 kilbith two missing `size_t` cast here: 01:09 kilbith https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/settings.cpp#L52 01:09 kilbith https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/settings.cpp#L75 01:10 kilbith (GCC warnings) 01:13 rubenwardy I was wondering what the sentiment of adding something like Sentry to the Play Store version of the Android app would be 01:14 rubenwardy Sentry posts crash reports with stack traces and recent actions, there's no personal information. Google Play has something similar but it's not very capable 01:14 rubenwardy debugging Android is such a pain 01:15 MTDiscord the words you can't bring yourself to say are: unsupported platform 01:16 rubenwardy I'll see if there's any way to make Google Play error reporting more useful - it gives you stacktraces at least, but they don't work on C++ currently due to missing debug symbols 01:29 rubenwardy Crashes page on Play: https://rwdy.uk/7IyFA.png 01:32 rubenwardy just a few crashes 12:13 sfan5 reminder #11287 12:13 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11287 -- Take advantage of IrrlichtMt target by JosiahWI 16:30 rubenwardy RE: new mainmenu 16:31 rubenwardy PR to add policy regarding features games (and other packages): cdb#323 16:31 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/contentdb/issues/323 -- Add policy on Featured Packages by rubenwardy 16:35 MTDiscord Where there are fields for things in CDB (such as source control) I'd make it explicit that we prefer the proper field actually be filled in, rather than it just being mentioned somewhere. 16:36 MTDiscord re: screenshot.png, isn't 320x240 also a minimum reasonable resolution for that? 16:37 rubenwardy that standard applies to all users though 16:37 rubenwardy *packages 16:37 MTDiscord Eh, I thought it'd be just one or two things, but I might as well just add a comment to the PR directly. I also have an issue with the 1080p requirement for screencaps; making it a hard limit like that would render all my packages completely ineligible. 16:41 sfan5 haven't read the issue, here's a simple test: can MTG be featured under these rules? 16:45 rubenwardy No lol 16:45 rubenwardy Yeah, maybe the requirement should be 720p 16:45 rubenwardy Which would allow 1366x768 screens 16:46 rubenwardy MTG would meet the quality requirements, but not the maintenance or fun requirements 16:46 rubenwardy Although, maybe you'd consider the modding ecosystem as part of the fun 16:46 rubenwardy You'd probably need to, given how so many mods are for MTG 16:47 sfan5 maintenance is a real issue 16:47 rubenwardy Well actually, it would meet the maintenance requirements. It's well maintained in terms of bug fixes and such 16:47 sfan5 since I'm pretty sure we want to feature it since that's what like half of players are still playing 16:47 sfan5 (and obviously it should conform to the general rules and not have a special exception) 17:07 MTDiscord I think MTG would not meet the usability requirements because in order to be playable users need to mod it, and first-time users won't know how to do that. I think the proper way to get MTG to be featured is to have somebody actually maintain an already-somewhat-modded version of MTG and feature that instead as a reasonable new-player experience. 17:08 MTDiscord I was actually hoping dreambuilder might fill this role, but dreambuilder might be a little TOO rich of an experience for what we want to feature, I'm not sure. Granted, it's also I think somewhat more likely that the most naive new users are likely to have more powerful machines than old salt like us. 17:09 MTDiscord I don't think we should interpret "featured" as "this is what people are playing" so much as "this is what people (especially new users) should try". 17:09 MTDiscord I think Featured is also especially focused on SP, since for MP you'd feature servers instead of packages (and that'd be a feature for the server list, not CDB) 17:49 rubenwardy Haha, someone recommended the featured slots be paid 17:49 rubenwardy Perhaps I should call it "Recommended" rather than "featured" 17:49 rubenwardy Although, recommended implies more of an algorithm 17:51 Krock so.. someone recommended the recommended slots to be paid 17:58 MTDiscord "recommended implies an algorithm" ... oh wow, how did we arrive at this point? O_O 17:59 MTDiscord My original idea for the name had "Editors'" in it, as in "Editors' Choice" or "Editors' Recommendations" to make the origin clear, though there is a counterargument to be made against the verbosity. 18:28 celeron55_ well having a paid slot as one of the featured slots or so could make sense, given there's some obvious target for the funds 18:29 celeron55_ like the hosting costs of contentdb itself 18:30 sfan5 I assume a less slow forum is not fixable with money ;) 18:30 specing Minetest needs microtransations to get popular 18:30 specing clearly 18:30 celeron55_ sfan5: well... ...it might be 18:31 MTDiscord Find out if anyone would even be willing to pay before we start thinking about how this would work ... and whether any of the people who would be willing to pay are ones we would actually be willing to accept as representing the project in any way. 19:01 rubenwardy The hosting costs of ContentDB are luckily covered by ContentDB 19:01 rubenwardy Oops 19:01 rubenwardy My patreon 20:04 MTDiscord you do realise i could fill that slot for the next decade and have no negatives right 20:05 MTDiscord i mean it's not like i already pay the bills for it