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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2021-03-20

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06:16 MTDiscord <nerzhul> sfan5, Krock, what about my header move to irrlicht ? it seems this is intended to be retributed to it ?
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11:33 Wuzzy #9294
11:33 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9294 -- Add callbacks for falling and attached nodes by Wuzzy2
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11:50 Krock @nerzhul: sorry, would you mind explaining this? I don't understand what you mean by that
11:51 Krock also forgot to merge #11011 yesterday. will do that in 10 minutes
11:51 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11011 -- Schematic: Properly deal with before/after node resolving and document by SmallJoker
11:51 MTDiscord <nerzhul> Krock currently there is irrString.h in irrlicht. irruString is a derivate from irrlicht as you see, but not included in irrlicht currently
11:52 MTDiscord <nerzhul> then i think it's time to return back this irrlicht_charges header into irrlicht ?
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11:52 Krock @nerzhul: so question is whether the server could still be built using the official 1.9 headers. I heard from sfan5_ that 1.9 upstream should still work for this case
11:52 MTDiscord <nerzhul> i'm trying to move some code parts from MT to irrlicht if they are irrlicht engine generic
11:52 MTDiscord <nerzhul> i don't understand why it should not, as the header is always present, just it's in lthe lib
11:53 Krock @nerzhul so would upstream irrlicht 1.9 have this header? if not - does the server compile without it?
11:53 MTDiscord <nerzhul> i don't understand why we want to be close to irrlicht 1.9 as we forked it
11:54 MTDiscord <nerzhul> we want server to be built with vanilla irrlicht ?
11:54 MTDiscord <nerzhul> if yes it sound just crazy
11:54 MTDiscord <nerzhul> maintaining both compat is a bit crazy ?
11:54 Krock yes that's what I saw mentioned in an earlier discussion
11:54 sfan5 hm yeah does the server need this header?
11:54 sfan5 I don't think it does but not sure
11:54 MTDiscord <nerzhul> i don't think as it's called from some client irrlicht code
11:55 sfan5 nerzhul: currently the server is still allowed to be built with irrlicht 1.8.4, we can easily forbid that if it turns out to be bad
11:55 sfan5 (CI also tests this)
11:55 MTDiscord <nerzhul> yep
11:55 MTDiscord <nerzhul> let me check files where it's called
11:56 MTDiscord <nerzhul> called from CGUITTfont.h only it seems
11:57 MTDiscord <nerzhul> then no problem ?
12:00 Krock merging
12:00 MTDiscord <nerzhul> on irrlicht then mt you mean, ?
12:01 MTDiscord <nerzhul> i don't know how CI works , where does irrlicht comes @sfan5 ? it's a regular build from the github CI used on minetest/minetest repo ?
12:01 sfan5 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/util/ci/common.sh#L15-L16
12:01 sfan5 same gitlab-ci.yml for gitlab, similar in the buildbot scripts
12:01 MTDiscord <nerzhul> ah you put a tag then
12:02 MTDiscord <nerzhul> won't be easy for MR which target both sides no ?
12:02 Krock done
12:02 sfan5 true
12:02 sfan5 I plan to rename the libraries anyway so I can put some new files there (without a new tag, since we're still in early stages)
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12:04 MTDiscord <nerzhul> can't we have temporary artifact like on gitlab, on the irrlicht side and download it directly ? could be nice ?
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17:12 Wuzzy I created a list of hardcoded features: https://dev.minetest.net/List_of_hardcoded_features
17:14 sfan5 some of those have creative workarounds
17:14 sfan5 > place_param2 is coupled to placement, if you only want to change the inventory image, you're out of luck
17:14 sfan5 for example here you can: disable placement prediction and unset place_param2 after startup
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18:08 sfan5 Krock: any other UI issues you noticed?
18:09 Krock no, seems fine
18:09 Krock the grey background was strange at first tho
18:09 Krock but it seems intentional
18:11 sfan5 could possibly tune it down a bit
18:12 sfan5 replace box[0,0;5.75,7;#888888] with box[0,0;5.75,7;#666666] and see if you like it better
18:12 ShadowBot sfan5: Error: That URL raised <HTTP Error 404: Not Found>
18:12 ShadowBot sfan5: Error: That URL raised <HTTP Error 404: Not Found>
18:12 Krock ShadowBot: thanks very helpful
18:15 Krock hmm. in terms of contrast it looks better using darker values
18:16 sfan5 I think #666666 is better,too
18:16 ShadowBot sfan5: Error: That URL raised <HTTP Error 404: Not Found>
18:16 rubenwardy Intentionally missing partial transparency?
18:17 Krock pitch black also does not look too wrong given the semi-transparent dialogue
18:19 Krock I'd go for #f0e . it looks cute but sounds evil /s
18:20 Krock FWIW https://i.postimg.cc/RVyyNcs1/grafik.png
18:21 sfan5 better suggestion: choose a random color each time
18:21 Krock yeah that sounds good to me. I cannot decide anyway so let's do random
18:23 Krock sfan5: Port label needs moving too
18:23 sfan5 whoopsie
18:36 sfan5 merging #11078 in 10m
18:36 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11078 -- Mainmenu: Improve "Join Game" tab by sfan5
19:07 MTDiscord <appguru> yay
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21:18 sfan5 pushing http://sprunge.us/JOj9fh?diff in 5m
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