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| 09:13 |
Wuzzy |
When will version 5.1.1 be released so the translations can be fixed? (Weblate was never properly (!) updated) |
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ANAND |
Bumpity-bump, #8271. Simple PR; already has one approval. |
| 09:55 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8271 -- Fix breath statbar scaling; defer breath_bar hiding by one second by ClobberXD |
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| 10:51 |
Krock |
Wuzzy: ask est31 or SN |
| 10:51 |
Wuzzy |
SN? |
| 10:52 |
Wuzzy |
i am also confused |
| 10:52 |
Wuzzy |
how could this even have happened in the first place? |
| 10:52 |
Wuzzy |
"update weblate" is a checkpoint in the release checklist |
| 10:52 |
Wuzzy |
whats the point of the release checklit if its not used? ? |
| 10:54 |
Wuzzy |
ShadowNinja: weblate is stuck on 5.0.0, so 5.1.0 released with old translations ? |
| 10:54 |
Wuzzy |
Will there be a patch release? |
| 10:54 |
Wuzzy |
A core dev correctly pulled the strings *from* weblate, but the source strings on weblate itself were never updated. |
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Wuzzy |
So all the translators worked on 5.0.0 translations, not 5.1.0 translations |
| 10:55 |
Wuzzy |
It is my fault this has happened. I have noticed from the start that weblate did not updated but I just assumed you will notice it and just update |
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Wuzzy |
My assumption was wrong, obviously |
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Krock |
well, I hope your rage will be heard |
| 11:10 |
Krock |
unlike my attempts to update Weblate |
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sfan5 |
Wuzzy: the issue isn't that we forgot to do the "update weblate" thing on the release checklist |
| 11:35 |
sfan5 |
when the translations were updated many months ago, weblate wasn't updated |
| 11:36 |
sfan5 |
but thta's not part of the release checklist or doesn't happen in connection to a new release |
| 11:37 |
sfan5 |
this should answer your "how could this even happen?" and "why aren't you reading the release checklist??!" |
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sfan5 |
merging #9043 in a few mins |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9043 -- Fix rotate_node to return the correct itemstack. by Warr1024 |
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Wuzzy |
sfan5: i still dont understand |
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Wuzzy |
you say you didnt forget it when in fact, you did? |
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Wuzzy |
sfan5: is weblate not supposed to be updated? how is it *intended* to be updated? |
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Wuzzy |
Krock: ? what you mean |
| 16:20 |
Krock |
>we< can't update it |
| 16:20 |
Wuzzy |
????? |
| 16:20 |
Wuzzy |
wtf |
| 16:20 |
Wuzzy |
why not |
| 16:20 |
Wuzzy |
is weblate broken again? |
| 16:20 |
Krock |
ffs please read the PR and issue comments again |
| 16:21 |
Wuzzy |
oh sorry. i just returned hom |
| 16:23 |
Wuzzy |
wellll. looks like the only way out is to self-host, then? ? |
| 16:23 |
Wuzzy |
or just force all translators to do PRs again |
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Wuzzy |
(yuck) |
| 16:23 |
Wuzzy |
I wish I would have been part of this discussion. ? |
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Wuzzy |
Krock: Do I undertand right the Weblate Minetest project is controlled only by est31, which you weren't able to contact? So you tried to fix it all by yourselves, failed, and then gave up. Is this correct? |
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Wuzzy |
("you" = all core devs) |
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sfan5 |
the last part is oversimplified |
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Wuzzy |
okay ... |
| 17:08 |
Wuzzy |
what's the truth then? |
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sfan5 |
what we tried to (and did) do is import the correct translations from weblite despite them being out of date |
| 17:09 |
Wuzzy |
yeah, i saw that commit |
| 17:10 |
Wuzzy |
strange how i completely missed the entire discussion. oh well. i was probably too busy with hedgewars, haha |
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sfan5 |
the part we "gave up" on is making sure translators have a chance to update for 5.1, since that would involve waiting for a weblate admin, giving translators a few (or more) days to translate and then importing them again |
| 17:10 |
Wuzzy |
i bet it caught you completely by surprise that est31 disappeared |
| 17:10 |
Wuzzy |
normally it would be like this?: |
| 17:10 |
Wuzzy |
ping est31. est31 updates. everyone happy |
| 17:11 |
Wuzzy |
right? |
| 17:11 |
sfan5 |
I don't know how previous translation updates were handeled |
| 17:11 |
Wuzzy |
i agree adding an addtional waiting time would have been annoying as well. |
| 17:11 |
sfan5 |
presumably it worked like that |
| 17:11 |
Wuzzy |
oofff |
| 17:11 |
Krock |
they were force pushed to weblate |
| 17:11 |
Wuzzy |
by whom? |
| 17:11 |
Krock |
full from weblate, update. force push |
| 17:12 |
Krock |
est31, I believe |
| 17:12 |
Wuzzy |
why force push? |
| 17:12 |
Krock |
s/full/pull/ |
| 17:12 |
Krock |
merge & push rather. the pulled changes from weblate are usually squashed |
| 17:13 |
Wuzzy |
hmmm i guess the whole "how to update source strings in weblate" ought to be documented. will happily write it down in dev wiki as soon i understand how |
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Wuzzy |
hi |
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Krock |
fact is that the both clones don't have the identical history |
| 17:13 |
Wuzzy |
hmmmmm |
| 17:14 |
Wuzzy |
i have the feeling that weblate is not supposed to be force-pushed to all the time. probably i should read the manual... |
| 17:14 |
Wuzzy |
i also noticed that minetest *always* has this little "warning triangle" icon in weblate |
| 17:15 |
Wuzzy |
Is there are reason why only est31 is handed out the keys to weblate? |
| 17:18 |
Wuzzy |
I hereby revert my previous translation rage: $ git revert rage |
| 17:19 |
Wuzzy |
basically you were just unlucky. I previously assumed it was due to incompetence. I was wrong for assuming that. Sorry for that. |
| 17:19 |
Wuzzy |
and the decisoin to not delay release any further is understandable |
| 17:34 |
paramat |
=) thanks |
| 17:35 |
paramat |
i will take care of #9040 late tonight and merge as trivial |
| 17:35 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9040 -- Text mistakes in settingtypes.txt |
| 17:45 |
Lone_Wolf |
Hope this is readable https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8577#issuecomment-541440038 |
| 17:48 |
Wuzzy |
it is readable |
| 18:01 |
paramat |
replied, i was wrong sorry |
| 18:09 |
Lone_Wolf |
k, creating that issue |
| 18:09 |
Lone_Wolf |
What's IhrFussel's IRC nick? |
| 18:11 |
Krock |
IhrFussel |
| 18:11 |
Krock |
np. you're welcome. |
| 18:11 |
Wuzzy |
surprise! ? |
| 18:13 |
Lone_Wolf |
Didn't want to accidentally ping someone that got the name before them |
| 18:19 |
Lone_Wolf |
Issue created. Lot simpler than I thought in the end: #9046 |
| 18:19 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9046 -- Allow players to change darkness at night |
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Wuzzy |
Now that it has been revealed that a part of the release process (namely, weblate source string update) depends on very few people, this makes me wonder: |
| 18:28 |
Wuzzy |
Are there any other parts of the release process that can go up in flames if a Single Point of Failure person disappears? |
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sagax |
hi all! |
| 21:51 |
sagax |
how to start minetest play? because in default mode i don't know - how to craft anything! |
| 21:51 |
sagax |
maybe we have `musthave` mods? addons? |
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paramat |
please ask in #minetest channel, this channel is for development only |
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sagax |
thanks |
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