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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2018-06-14

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01:56 ANAND TravisCI seems to have been set up to build every new PR
01:56 ANAND Even those that modify only text files
01:57 ANAND like this: #7446
01:57 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7446 -- Update menu_lua_api.txt to replace deprecated functions by ClobberXD
02:03 ANAND I feel that this is unnecessary
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05:11 ANAND Finally found out why the online content browser is empty all the time
05:11 ANAND ERROR[Main]: https://contentdb.rubenwardy.com/packages/ not found (Timeout was reached) (response code 301)
05:30 ANAND My version is very recent too. I'll try re-building it, just to be sure
05:35 ANAND :O
05:35 ANAND ERROR[Main]: https://content.minetest.net/packages/ not found (Timeout was reached) (response code 200)
05:36 ANAND URL has been updated, but MT still isn't able to retrieve the packages... o.O
05:46 ANAND Created a new issue: #7447
05:46 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7447 -- Online Content Browser does not retrieve any packages
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09:31 rubenwardy > response code 200
09:31 rubenwardy odd
09:31 rubenwardy ah ofc, TCP is streaming
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09:52 rubenwardy it takes 2.3 seconds to load the result
09:52 rubenwardy I should probably add caching and reduce the JSON size
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11:02 nerzhul rubenwardy: enable gzip compression at least
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11:47 rubenwardy nerzhul: insecure
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11:48 rubenwardy just for that end point it's probably fine
11:49 rubenwardy https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2767211/can-you-use-gzip-over-ssl-and-connection-keep-alive-headers
11:50 rubenwardy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BREACH
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12:11 nerzhul rubenwardy gzip compression insecure ? why everybody enable it on its site and why it's counted by search engine as a quality ranking option ? :)
12:12 nerzhul also the response is in 2010
12:12 rubenwardy *2014
12:12 nerzhul it's 8 years ago, and yes there were vulnerabilities but they are fixed
12:19 rubenwardy link please to the fix
12:19 rubenwardy https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/172581/to-avoid-breach-can-we-use-gzip-on-non-token-responses
12:20 rubenwardy just found this: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tls-tls13-21#section-5.4 and https://www.sjoerdlangkemper.nl/2016/11/07/current-state-of-breach-attack/
12:21 rubenwardy TLS3 though
12:21 nerzhul what is your httpd server ?
12:21 rubenwardy nginx
12:21 nerzhul https://nulab-inc.com/blog/nulab/securing-nginx/
12:22 nerzhul sounds to be a good solution
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12:40 sfan5 >blog article suggests enabling 3DES for TLS
12:40 sfan5 ah yes great security
13:56 celeron55 irrlichtBAW is contacting me again
13:56 celeron55 https://gist.github.com/celeron55/4b5cbd5a6db9c12d42857f6e151e7337
13:57 rubenwardy loool
13:58 celeron55 i guess i'd consider any work there useful for MT, if someone finds it interesting
13:58 rubenwardy sounds good
13:58 rubenwardy worth looking to see what changes we'd need to use it as well, and what we could benefti from
13:58 rubenwardy I'm not a graphics programmer however :)
13:59 celeron55 it's closest to what we can get to in getting away from the ancient irrlicht ways of opengl 1 and such
13:59 celeron55 at the moment
14:00 rubenwardy yeah
14:00 celeron55 probably not useful this year, or the next, but in the far future definitely
14:05 Krock I'd like to add in another topic: The Ubuntu PPAs need updating to 0.4.17.1 but est31 has been offline for a few days already. celeron55: could you please update them if you've got some time?
14:07 Krock Regarding that gist, I wonder if they considered contributing directly to Irrlicht to improve it. I'm not sure how much can be done in Minetest alone
14:09 celeron55 they probably want to break enough stuff to make upstream contributions not viable
14:09 sfan5 for example they ripped out the entire gui subsystem
14:10 celeron55 or... he, really; it's a one-man operation pretty much
14:11 Krock impressive.
14:11 rubenwardy can't be used until we kill formspecs then
14:11 celeron55 well, or re-implement
14:12 celeron55 or backport the gui subsystem as our own fork of it 8)
14:12 Krock reimplementing a pile of legacy design.. hmm
14:26 rubenwardy argh, there's so much I want to do to MT but no time
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14:39 ANAND Would someone be able to review #7446 (documentation fix)? Thanks in advance
14:39 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7446 -- Update menu_lua_api.txt to replace deprecated functions by ClobberXD
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17:30 nerzhul celeron55 replace irrlicht with ceGui for formspecs :)
17:31 nerzhul merging #7423
17:31 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7423 -- Minimal: Disable disruptive formspec test by default by Wuzzy2
17:34 nerzhul has #7410 been discussed ?
17:34 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7410 -- Modernize lua read (part 2): C++ templating assurance by nerzhul
17:36 Krock not yet AFAIK
17:39 nerzhul i push a fix on the bump_version script (doc filename changed)
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18:49 nerzhul Krock ty for the info
18:52 Krock nerzhul, no need to request a review from all core devs. https://github.com/orgs/minetest/teams/engine/discussions/12
18:53 Krock thumbs up mean that they agree
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19:26 nerzhul Krock then i push ? :)
19:28 Krock maybe there was something forgotten.. if I were you I'd keep it open for a few more hours
19:28 nerzhul yeah
19:28 nerzhul waiting tomorrow :)
19:30 Krock the rotation PR looks very promising. will have to re-do the smooth rotation transition PR afterwards to make it look better
19:33 nerzhul yeah
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20:04 thoughtjigs travis-ci script failed for my most recent commit for this issue: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7445 it looks to me like it was not code related. Is there a way to re-run it?
20:10 Krock trivial build system failure. the other builds are fine so it wouldn't be too important to succeed anyway
20:10 thoughtjigs thanks, that's what it looked like to me.
20:11 Krock yw
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