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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2018-06-12

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00:02 srifqi nerzhul: https://gist.github.com/srifqi/a1032fc75505b4296d9711cf2fb7e22d
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13:25 Krock #7336 works. will merge in 15 mins
13:25 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7336 -- Implemented hasprivs chat-command (Closes #7266) by ClobberXD
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13:38 Krock merging..
13:44 Krock So from what I've seen is 5.0 the most promising next version in case we want to switch to SemVer
13:45 rubenwardy yay
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13:53 Krock paramat ^ ?
13:53 paramat yes it is, Krock do you like moving to 5.0.0?
13:54 Krock Well I don't care tbh
13:54 paramat lol
13:55 Krock it surely would reduce some additional key presses but that's all what changes for me. However, 5.0.0 might sound more welcome to players who expect a pseudo-complete game
13:56 paramat sfan5 sofar see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6073#issuecomment-396188132 what are your opinions on changing version to 5.0.0?
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14:07 ANAND https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6073#issuecomment-312011699
14:07 ANAND looks like an accidental double-post by nerzhul
14:08 Krock Looks like that's over a year old and nobody cares about it
14:08 Fixer nerzhul types funny in it
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14:17 paramat Krock , well, i think version number has priority over semvar, but yes 5.0.0 is compatible with semvar
14:18 rubenwardy semvar is a given if we switch
14:24 paramat doesn't have to be, but it seems most are fine with that, i am :)
14:25 VanessaE so just switch now.
14:25 VanessaE what's the hold up, really?
14:25 VanessaE the way I figure it,
14:25 paramat just input from more core devs
14:25 VanessaE noobs are always calling 0.4.x "4.x", and they'll do the same with 0.5.x..  may as well satisfy them so we can all stop saying "no, the '0.' matters"  :)
14:25 paramat will merge #7440 in 5 mins
14:25 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7440 -- README.md: Remove 'unfinished' section. by paramat
14:26 paramat heh good point
14:26 Krock VanessaE, and I'll probably end up starting with "0." anyway because I'm used to it :3
14:26 VanessaE heh
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14:29 rubenwardy #7441
14:29 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7441 -- Semvar vote
14:31 rubenwardy argh, you can't react to locked issues
14:31 rubenwardy that makes the whole separate issue pointless
14:32 VanessaE since it's supposed to be core devs only, I'll politely refrain
14:32 rubenwardy react to the other issue in that case, the new one is just for an easier official vote
14:32 Krock rubenwardy, https://github.com/orgs/minetest/teams/engine/discussions would be the right place
14:32 VanessaE sureee.
14:32 VanessaE -ee
14:33 ANAND Oh, didn't notice that clause... >.<
14:33 Krock reacting is possible and ofc, only core devs will see i
14:33 Krock +t
14:35 rubenwardy done
14:35 rubenwardy https://github.com/orgs/minetest/teams/engine/discussions/12
14:41 paramat forgot, merging 7440 now
14:42 Krock rubenwardy, nice but it's still SemVer, not semvAr
14:42 rubenwardy typo :P
14:42 rubenwardy wrote on my phone
14:44 paramat merged
14:46 rubenwardy fixed :)
14:49 VanessaE note entirely off topic:  someone reported on my dreambuidler thread this issue with 0.4.17.1:  https://pastebin.com/HdWxi64E
14:49 VanessaE not*
14:50 VanessaE shall I tell him to file an engine issue
14:50 VanessaE ?
14:50 Krock seen the same report in the forums. it's not 0.4.17.1
14:50 VanessaE oh?
14:50 Krock that's the PPA 0.4.17
14:50 VanessaE What shall I tell him?
14:51 Krock if it's this person: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=20260 nothing.
14:51 VanessaE yup, that's him.
14:52 VanessaE ok.
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15:39 nerzhul ANAND i double post to ensure you will read it twice and understand what i said
15:39 nerzhul (joke)
15:40 nerzhul in fact no, i post, i close the PR and when i come later on the tab the coment is on the edit areas and sometimes i thought i never send it and reclick
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15:47 sfan5 paramat: (regarding 5.0.0) I don't mind it either way
15:48 paramat ok thanks :)
15:53 ANAND lol nerzhul :)
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16:05 p_gimeno for the record, the LÖVE engine changed very recently from 0.10.2 to 11.0. I for one applauded the decision, and would applaud it in this case too. https://love2d.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=85051
16:07 p_gimeno using sem versioning seems like a good idea too, it would have prevented the 0.4.17.1 version numbering mess
16:08 p_gimeno the only issue I see is that there would hardly be any middle version number bump, as most version changes are compatibility breaking
16:08 p_gimeno (or bugfixes like in 0.4.17.1)
16:09 rubenwardy most changes shouldn't be compatibility breaking
16:09 rubenwardy but accidents happen
16:09 rubenwardy because of lack of unit testing and such
16:10 * rubenwardy would like to introduce extensive API tests, but also doesn't want to be bored to death
16:12 p_gimeno I started playing at 0.4.13 and I don't remember any version up to 0.4.16 that didn't break some API
16:13 rubenwardy they weren't intentional breakages
16:13 rubenwardy this is why I'd like API tests
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16:54 sofar paramat: neutral. 5.0 is fine (I prefer 5.0 over 5.0.0 tbh) but even 1.0 is OK
16:55 sofar taking off the '0' at the front is a definite +1 from me
16:55 rubenwardy semvar would be 5.0.0 though
16:56 rubenwardy but people will just write 5.0 everywhere, which is fine
16:57 sfan5 semver*
16:57 rubenwardy argh
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17:20 Krock rubenwardy, that's not a mobile keyboard typo. you suffer from misspelling semver
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17:20 rubenwardy I'd never mispell sembar
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17:40 sofar 5.0.0 is fine too, you won't see me complain about it :)
17:41 paramat ok thanks. since the 3rd number is patch referring to it as 5.0, 5.1 etc. seems fine to me
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17:42 paramat so that's +1 or neutral from all active core devs, i didn't ask nore or ShadowNinja though
17:42 paramat oh forgot lhof
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19:07 nerzhul paramat the democratic majority approved it
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19:09 stujones11 nerzhul: I've updated my comment on #7439 btw
19:09 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7439 -- Android: Crash while loading singleplayer
19:09 nerzhul i see but i'm disapointed
19:10 stujones11 Also, the line-endings are still broken, me too :'(
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19:27 stujones11 Regarding the version scheme, I'd consider something like 5.1 to suggest a reasonably stable program :P
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