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paramat |
phew |
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VanessaE |
(I still get to argue with it, but for a different reason now.) |
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paramat |
sofar could you look at game#1678 ? i get the feeling doors was broken by a recent commit |
| 02:30 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1678 -- Doors do not appear in the creative inventory. |
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paramat |
nevermind, found the cause |
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glut32 |
I would like to know which version of irrlicht do you use on minetest mac ? |
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nrzkt |
glut32: on travis you mean ? |
| 12:13 |
glut32 |
https://github.com/krondor-game/minetest/releases |
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glut32 |
on this build |
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glut32 |
I contacted the guy |
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nrzkt |
i don't know, it's a minetest interesting user but not official core member |
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Topic for #minetest-dev is now Minetest core development and maintenance. Chit-chat goes to #minetest. Consider this instead of /msg celeron55. http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-dev/ http://dev.minetest.net/ |
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Krock |
Need MTG testers for this patch? https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1678#issuecomment-290773342 |
| 17:17 |
Krock |
Table references seem to have manipulated the groups, thus this misbehaviour |
| 17:18 |
Krock |
s/?/:/ |
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VanessaE |
I've had that happen before. |
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VanessaE |
(in a different circumstance) |
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VanessaE |
(I had to resort to a deep copy to get around it, too) |
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Krock |
VanessaE, I expected register_item would copy the contents but apparently it doesn't :/ |
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Thomas-S |
May I ask, why, when "sudo make install"ing minetest, new files are installed but deleted ones aren't deleted in /usr/local/share/minetest ? |
| 18:27 |
Fixer |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1680 |
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sfan5 |
Thomas-S: cmake only knows about the files to install, not about the files previously installed |
| 18:34 |
sfan5 |
this is why you should use a package manager |
| 18:34 |
Thomas-S |
oh, ok. Thanks. I solved my problem by deleting /usr/local/share/minetest. I assume this has no negative impacts? |
| 18:35 |
sfan5 |
no |
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Thomas-S |
Thanks! |
| 18:44 |
nerzhul |
sfan5, will fix points you mention. For the path requirement it's required by cmake itself because add_subdirectory only allow, without this argument, subdirectories, and move them outside of src make this rule invalid. What i suggest is to move the detection path in CMakeLists.txt in lib/ folder and do add_subdirectory of this part in root/CmakeLists.txt before the add_subdirectory src/, are you okay ? |
| 18:45 |
sfan5 |
sounds good |
| 18:45 |
nerzhul |
nice :) i'm experimenting this better approach now |
| 18:45 |
nerzhul |
can you review #5487 ? |
| 18:46 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5487 -- [CSM] Add function and chat command to disconnect from server. by red-001 |
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nerzhul |
sfan5, Krock i updated #5473 and fixed the android build :) |
| 19:36 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5473 -- Update embedded jsoncpp from unk version to 0.10.6 + move libs to lib/ instead of src/ by nerzhul |
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nerzhul |
can you review and accept it for a merge ? |
| 19:41 |
Krock |
at least travis should be done before reviewing |
| 19:41 |
nerzhul |
Krock, exact :) |
| 19:42 |
nerzhul |
travis is not happy hmm |
| 19:42 |
nerzhul |
interesting... |
| 19:42 |
nerzhul |
my cmake version doesn't have this error |
| 19:44 |
nerzhul |
Krock, travis is happy on 5487, the change is simple, but required for our second CSM roadmap |
| 19:56 |
nerzhul |
merging #5490 thanks sfan5 for reopening & others to look at this |
| 19:57 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5490 -- Wieldmesh: Natural orientation depending on pitch by sfan5 |
| 19:57 |
nerzhul |
and thanks to kil |
| 19:57 |
nerzhul |
and thanks to kilbith |
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nerzhul |
oh |
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nerzhul |
github changed commiter |
| 19:59 |
nerzhul |
i need to fix this sorry :) don't pull |
| 20:00 |
nerzhul |
done |
| 20:23 |
nerzhul |
what is minetest codestyle column limit ? because clang-format seems to use 80 but it's very tiny, 100 seems more reasonable no ? |
| 20:25 |
celeron55 |
we do have this http://dev.minetest.net/Code_style_guidelines |
| 20:25 |
celeron55 |
which is mostly written by hmmmm, but mostly valid |
| 20:25 |
celeron55 |
it says 90 is a strict limit |
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nerzhul |
yeah i saw it and it doesn't talk about cols, just refering to linux kernel which says 80 cols except sometimes for readability |
| 20:26 |
celeron55 |
actually it talks |
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nerzhul |
oh sorry |
| 20:26 |
nerzhul |
misread |
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nerzhul |
okay, i'm pushing a trivial fix on clang-format to take account of that limit |
| 20:28 |
nerzhul |
and apply a style fix on l_client.cpp |
| 20:28 |
nerzhul |
(which is not conflicting) |
| 20:28 |
nerzhul |
and l_client.h |
| 20:28 |
nerzhul |
you won't have to fix it red-002 then |
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Fixer |
This is finished it seems, please consider reviewing https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5416 |
| 20:43 |
Fixer |
Windows: Skip cmd for release builds #5416 |
| 20:43 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5416 -- Windows: Skip cmd for release builds by adrido |
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nerzhul |
Fixer, you have my approval, just require a second approval, from Krock maybe |
| 20:46 |
Fixer |
nerzhul: you was too fast, also not my PR, but i'm interested to get rid of cmd window :) |
| 20:46 |
Fixer |
i tested it |
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nerzhul |
it's more proper to not having it in releases build |
| 20:46 |
Fixer |
on mingw crosscompile, originally it was for msvc |
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Fixer |
nerzhul: with it you will have -DENABLE_CMD_WINDOW = 1/0 for cmake to choose |
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nerzhul |
i hope it's 0 for release :) |
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rubenwardy |
is it possible to opt-in to a cmd window, either with a setting or a different launcher? (ie: launch using bash) |
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sfan5 |
possibly |
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rubenwardy |
s/bash/batch/g |
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Fixer |
rubenwardy: why not just tail debug.txt ? |
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rubenwardy |
er - windows? |
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rubenwardy |
also, convenience |
| 20:56 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: in windows I found mtail, very useful if console is disabled |
| 20:56 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: http://ophilipp.free.fr/op_tail.htm |
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Fixer |
nerzhul: for msvc - yes, for mingw cross-compile... it will be hidden for any build by default |
| 21:07 |
Fixer |
it seems, will check |
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red-002 |
updated #5487 |
| 21:10 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5487 -- [CSM] Add function and chat command to disconnect from server. by red-001 |
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VanessaE |
well, that's that. I just evicted LuaJIT from my servers. |
| 21:52 |
VanessaE |
too many OOM crashes. |
| 21:53 |
sfan5 |
you probably "just" need to wait until gc64 is stable |
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sofar |
surprised you hang on this long, tbh |
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VanessaE |
I already had it compiled with gc64 enabled. |
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sfan5 |
are you sure? that mode crashed for me very often |
| 21:53 |
VanessaE |
yup. |
| 21:54 |
VanessaE |
doesn't matter. |
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sofar |
better lua code probably helps you more |
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sfan5 |
(crash meaning segfault) |
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VanessaE |
sofar: I suppose it would, but if I have a machine with 16GB of RAM, by G*d I should be able to use it ;) |
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sofar |
yes but all that memory is slow if you thrash your caches with bad lua |
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VanessaE |
and besides, better code won't fix luajit stupidities like needing to be at the start of address space. |
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sofar |
shure shure |
| 22:00 |
VanessaE |
(the code that needs help is way above my proverbial pay grade, anyway) |
| 22:12 |
Fixer |
gc64 mode is not stable it seems, at least on minetest |
| 22:13 |
Fixer |
i've also seen some bugreports about crashes in this mode |
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VanessaE |
..aaaaaaand I have to turn JIT back on. the server's just too slow otherwise :( |
| 23:31 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: try with usual luajit without gc64 |
| 23:31 |
VanessaE |
doesn't matter, it was crashing before, too. |
| 23:31 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: what error? |
| 23:31 |
VanessaE |
OOM errors in random mods |
| 23:32 |
VanessaE |
most recently mesecons. |
| 23:33 |
VanessaE |
2017-04-01 01:32:41: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: environment_Step: OOM error from mod 'mesecons' in callback environment_Step(): not enough memory |
| 23:33 |
Fixer |
totally random or there are some champions? |
| 23:33 |
VanessaE |
for example. |
| 23:33 |
VanessaE |
lately it's been blaming mesecons, I know you personally tend to see it happen with technic_worldgen |
| 23:34 |
rubenwardy |
#5302 |
| 23:34 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5302 -- Store legacy metadata separate from new item meta data by rubenwardy |
| 23:34 |
rubenwardy |
doesn't affect serialization |
| 23:35 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: it is inevitable, how often it happens? |
| 23:35 |
VanessaE |
repeatedly |
| 23:35 |
VanessaE |
as in startup, run for several seconds, crash OOM |
| 23:37 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: thats what I had with milan's subgame + darkage, very fast oom |
| 23:37 |
Fixer |
when i tested it last time |
| 23:39 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: probably cheapie with dat mesecons... |
| 23:39 |
VanessaE |
I doubt it. |
| 23:40 |
VanessaE |
can someone at least patch the engine to show the last requested amount of RAM before the crash? |
| 23:40 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: how much mem was at the moment of oom in that error report? |
| 23:40 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: it shows... |
| 23:40 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: typically in the 970 MB range |
| 23:40 |
VanessaE |
but that doesn't tell me how much was last requested or by which mod |
| 23:40 |
VanessaE |
(saying mesecons crashed doesn't mean mesecons was what requested the RAM) |
| 23:40 |
Fixer |
yeah, this needs improving |
| 23:40 |
Fixer |
also want mod profiling as in memory usage |
| 23:41 |
Fixer |
we have cpu usage but mem usage is also needed |
| 23:41 |
VanessaE |
what good is mod profiling if I can't run it before the crash? |
| 23:41 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: and it OOMs each time? |
| 23:41 |
VanessaE |
yep. |
| 23:42 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: right after start up? |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
any second now it's gonna OOM |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
there it goes. |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
2017-04-01 01:42:19: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: environment_Step: OOM error from mod 'mesecons' in callback environment_Step(): not enough memory |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
2017-04-01 01:42:19: ERROR[Main]: Current Lua memory usage: 947 MB |
| 23:42 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: linux? nothing changed? anything memory intenfive nearby? |
| 23:43 |
VanessaE |
of course linux :P |
| 23:43 |
VanessaE |
and nothing much changes from day to day |
| 23:44 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: if it is mesecons i would probably look through the logs who interacted with mesecons last time and maybe shut down the mod or delete offensive mapblock |
| 23:44 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: not many options here :( if you are not developer |
| 23:44 |
Fixer |
developer can probably debug it, profile it, etc |
| 23:44 |
Fixer |
mod itself |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
I'll be quite honest here. I'm really getting tired of waiting for people to FIX SHIT (I don't mean Minetest engine) |
| 23:45 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: in short, you are screwed, if you have some backup, try to revert back |
| 23:45 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: revert back to preOOM time |
| 23:46 |
Fixer |
revert entire map from backup |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
oh hell no |
| 23:46 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: maybe you updated some mods recently? |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
fuck no |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
sure, I update mods from time to time |
| 23:46 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: updated mesecons recently? |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
but this has been an ongoing problem forever |
| 23:47 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: try older mesecons versions |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
I've just updated everything, engine, game, re-compiled luajit too. |
| 23:47 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: use simple lua |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
it's running again, but who knows for how long |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
simple Lua is too slow. |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
431 minetest 20 0 780936 374984 13420 S 81.4 2.3 1:24.61 /usr/bin/minetestserver --worldname Survival_World --confi+ |
| 23:47 |
Fixer |
i know it is slower, but there is not much options here, i can't even run a dreambuilder on windows on luajit |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
(virtual, resident, shared) |
| 23:48 |
VanessaE |
it's not just "slower". it's "horrendously slower" |
| 23:48 |
VanessaE |
my server relies heavily on technic, which is a CPU pig to beat all. |
| 23:48 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: it is about luajit 1gb limit, if GC64 mode will work, that should fix OOM problems |
| 23:49 |
VanessaE |
-DLUA_LIBRARY=/home/minetest/luajit-2.1-gc64/src/libluajit.so \ |
| 23:49 |
VanessaE |
and that IS compiled with GC64 enabled. |
| 23:49 |
Fixer |
strang |
| 23:49 |
Fixer |
e |
| 23:49 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: 64 bit library? |
| 23:49 |
VanessaE |
of course. |
| 23:50 |
VanessaE |
no one uses 32bit anymore |
| 23:50 |
VanessaE |
especially on a dedicated server. |
| 23:50 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: and you compiled 2.1.0 tree with make XCFLAGS=-DLUAJIT_ENABLE_GC64 ? |
| 23:51 |
VanessaE |
I edited src/Makefile to turn it on, as per its instructions. |
| 23:51 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: i have impression that it is not turned on, last time I checked I eated 4 gigabytes in GC64 before luajit segfault ._. |
| 23:52 |
Fixer |
and you have 1gb limit |
| 23:52 |
Fixer |
that means it is not turned on |
| 23:52 |
Fixer |
how i did it on windows: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2988#issuecomment-285090239 |
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Fixer |
gn |
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VanessaE |
ok, `git reset --hard HEAD` and recompiled like that ^ |
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* VanessaE |
rebuilds minetest against it. again. |
