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Fixer |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1613 |
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paramat |
hm |
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paramat |
the sound has a 'pos' |
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paramat |
maybe pointed_thing.above is failing |
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paramat |
maybe if a player uses it while not actually pointing at a node |
| 00:20 |
Fixer |
when I tested it I don't pointed it at something |
| 00:20 |
Fixer |
point* |
| 00:20 |
Fixer |
have not |
| 00:20 |
Fixer |
nevermind |
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paramat |
pos may need a fallback |
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paramat |
as in the player position |
| 00:22 |
Fixer |
was writing a book in minetest and alt-tabing and discovered nonworking backspace, after some clicking it started to work again |
| 00:25 |
Fixer |
space was working at the time I believe |
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paramat |
yes pos is nil if not pointing at a node |
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paramat |
will fix tomorrow. i guess some players will try to ignite nothing |
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paramat |
=/ |
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Fixer |
hah |
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Fixer |
another one related to book: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1614 Ways to reproduce are not clear, but try alt-tabbing many times and writing some text here and there |
| 00:54 |
sofar |
paramat: Fixer: I think they're pointing to an entity and not nothing |
| 00:54 |
sofar |
at least, that seems more likely |
| 00:55 |
Fixer |
sofar: when i tested I pointed at nothing iirc |
| 00:55 |
Fixer |
was pointing to horizon |
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Fixer |
but I may be wrong, I can retest tommorrow |
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Fixer |
updated my book bugreport, try it |
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paramat |
yeah could be an entity perhaps |
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Vadtec |
What algorithm does minetest use for generating its noise? simplex noise? |
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OldCoder |
http://dev.minetest.net/PerlinNoiseMap |
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OldCoder |
Vadtec, ^ |
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Vadtec |
OldCoder, ok, so.... hrm... maybe my googlefu is failing me, but every perlin/simplex noise algo ive seen is limited to ranges like 0-255 or 0-512 |
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* Vadtec |
heads to github to check the source code |
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OldCoder |
Vadtec, I'm not an expert at the noise issue. However, #minetest-dev can tell you... |
| 03:38 |
OldCoder |
When people are there and if you are brief |
| 03:39 |
OldCoder |
They can be persnickety at times |
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Vadtec |
im just trying to figure out how to make/implement/alter a perlin/simplex noise function to achieve the same range that minetest does |
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Vadtec |
all the implementations ive seen have arrays of values, and expanding said arrays doesnt seem to generate any larger noise values |
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Vadtec |
im no mathematician |
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Vadtec |
so its all greek to me as far as the math goes |
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OldCoder |
Vadtec, see above |
| 03:47 |
OldCoder |
Vadtec, I'm not an expert at the noise issue. However, #minetest-dev can tell you... |
| 03:47 |
OldCoder |
When people are there and if you are brief |
| 03:47 |
OldCoder |
There are 2 or 3 |
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OldCoder |
people there at different times |
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Vadtec |
yeah, i saw, thanks |
| 03:47 |
OldCoder |
who are authorities on the matter |
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OldCoder |
Good luck |
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nrzkt |
merging #5362 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5362 -- GUI: Convert loading screen's progress bar to image by kilbith |
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juhdanad |
Hi! Is it difficult to create (read-only) object references in client scripting? |
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paramat |
sofar and all, for bush decay, shall i change my PR to use 'default:after_place_leaves' so that players can place decaying leaves with sneak? |
| 18:05 |
paramat |
'place param2' is cleaner though |
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juhdanad |
It sounds a good idea, however not many people will know about that feature. |
| 18:08 |
paramat |
'after place leaves' is actually the known behaviour of tree leaves |
| 18:08 |
sofar |
I would consider making a PR that entirely removes default_after_place_leaves |
| 18:08 |
sofar |
it's such a niche function |
| 18:08 |
sofar |
someone make a mod for that |
| 18:09 |
paramat |
certainly. anyway for now i'll use 'after plave leaves' in the PR |
| 18:09 |
paramat |
(place) |
| 18:14 |
juhdanad |
Does anyone have some spare time to review #5227? I have already read the changes and they look good, also the rendering works in practice. |
| 18:14 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5227 -- [squashed] Refactor content_mapblock by numberZero |
| 18:15 |
juhdanad |
(at least I tried really special drawtypes, and SmallJoker tried it on a server, and it worked fine) |
| 18:27 |
paramat |
yes that PR is fairly important because it's delaying other work |
| 18:29 |
paramat |
my daily request: please can anyone review #4967 ? i think this one is also high priority for review |
| 18:29 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4967 -- New bulk node light update by juhdanad |
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sofar |
I really want to get those in asap |
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paramat |
game#1617 hopefully correct |
| 18:51 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1617 -- Flint & steel sounds: Fix bugs caused by nil position by paramat |
| 18:56 |
paramat |
tested and works |
| 18:56 |
sofar |
why is that thing even bothering doing `local pt = pointed_thing` ? |
| 18:56 |
sofar |
lol |
| 18:56 |
paramat |
good point |
| 18:57 |
sofar |
smne lkes rly shrt code |
| 18:57 |
paramat |
will update |
| 19:06 |
sofar |
still fine - I would just merge it |
| 19:06 |
Krock |
LTGM |
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paramat |
yes i have 4 PRs i will merge soon, once i update the bush decay one |
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paramat |
will merge games 1607 1611 1612 1617 in a few mins |
| 19:24 |
sofar |
I just merged #5162 |
| 19:24 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5162 -- Optimize item.lua by tenplus1 |
| 19:25 |
paramat |
nice |
| 19:30 |
sofar |
we have a lot that can be merged |
| 19:30 |
sofar |
could really use some review |
| 19:30 |
sofar |
CSM is one of them |
| 19:30 |
sofar |
I should try and validate that |
| 19:31 |
paramat |
merging to game |
| 19:32 |
sofar |
paramat: can you review the rotation pr me and whatshisname made? |
| 19:32 |
sofar |
that needs merging too |
| 19:32 |
paramat |
i can try |
| 19:33 |
sofar |
like, rotate a bed, a door, a torch, maybe a ladder |
| 19:34 |
sofar |
game#1584 |
| 19:34 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1584 -- Screwdriver: allow simple wallmounted rotation. by sofar |
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paramat |
bush decay conflicted with another PR so will rebase it |
| 19:37 |
paramat |
merged 3 of those |
| 19:41 |
Thomas-S |
Is the failed Travis check a problem for game#1580? |
| 19:41 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1580 -- Change doors to default.can_interact_with_node() by Thomas--S |
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sofar |
huh |
| 19:43 |
sofar |
looks like luacheck was upgraded in travis |
| 19:43 |
sofar |
none of those are relevant to your patch I think |
| 19:44 |
sofar |
0.19.0-17 days ago2,248 downloads |
| 19:45 |
sofar |
yup |
| 19:46 |
sofar |
weird, I get different warnings |
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sofar |
bullcrap, it now complains about `unpack` |
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paramat |
thanks for reviews, so i will merge #4967 later |
| 20:05 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4967 -- New bulk node light update by juhdanad |
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Krock |
sofar, are there more helper functions in the builtin that should be added there? :P |
| 20:10 |
sofar |
unpack isn't builtin, it's a lua thing |
| 20:11 |
sofar |
that's the only new one though that I found |
| 20:14 |
Krock |
oh, I thought that was a MT-special helper function. Good to know that it's shipped with Lua directly :) |
| 20:19 |
Fixer |
seen sapling(k) induced squarish kind of shadow bug (like for tnt) that 4967 should fix (i hope) |
| 20:19 |
Fixer |
on hometown server |
| 20:35 |
sofar |
tnt+fire bug found |
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paramat |
saplings are grown using 'place schematic' which uses a light update fixed by 4967 |
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paramat |
i'll also merge #5294 and #5349 later (with 4967) |
| 20:52 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5294 -- Optimize minimap by numberZero |
| 20:52 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5349 -- Climb speed: Increase default setting from 2 to 3 by paramat |
| 20:59 |
sofar |
game#1620 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1620 -- TNT: start fire nodetimers for created fire nodes. by sofar |
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juhdanad |
Could you help me? I once configured Minetest to build the server too. How can I turn it off? |
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nerzhul |
-DBUILD_SERVER=0 |
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juhdanad |
That worked, thank you! |
| 21:10 |
sofar |
nerzhul: CSM seems to work just fine, but it's terribly verbose on the cmdline :) |
| 21:10 |
nerzhul |
due to preview mod i think :) |
| 21:10 |
sofar |
yes |
| 21:10 |
nerzhul |
it's a preview, we could disable it before merge but keeping it to ensure everything is working when intended |
| 21:10 |
sofar |
did you ever think of using it more in minimal? I see the death screen is in there now |
| 21:11 |
sofar |
yeah, I think it's OK |
| 21:11 |
nerzhul |
for death screen yeah we should add it to minimal or base client mod |
| 21:24 |
sofar |
hmm, so, there is currently no way to enable/disable client side mods |
| 21:24 |
sofar |
also, no /clientmods ? |
| 21:24 |
nerzhul |
sofar, it was not intended to be done when PR was started |
| 21:24 |
sofar |
it's alright |
| 21:24 |
sofar |
I'm doing functional testing :) |
| 21:25 |
sofar |
these will be bug reports to be filed when it gets merged |
| 21:25 |
nerzhul |
what is a /clientmods ? a command ? no, this is the beginning we are adding API, after we can be free to add API or functional |
| 21:25 |
juhdanad |
Will there be a way to enable/disable client mods? |
| 21:25 |
nerzhul |
not server side because it's not intended to be the use case, client mods are pure client customisation for their own local gameplay |
| 21:25 |
sofar |
juhdanad: there isn't right now - I assume it will be wanted in the future |
| 21:26 |
nerzhul |
but client side we can add a boolean |
| 21:26 |
nerzhul |
it's quite simple to handle, just check if enabled when creating luastack and calling client mod callbacks |
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nerzhul |
the only remaining problem is the death formspec which is standard and we converted it to pure mod |
| 21:27 |
juhdanad |
nerzhul: maybe servers would like to hand out Hud handling to clients. |
| 21:28 |
nerzhul |
juhdanad, hud is not managed by CSM at this moment as we didn't found a real solution to current server HUD problems due to history |
| 21:28 |
nerzhul |
for example custom hud with more slots |
| 21:28 |
sofar |
nuke the old stuff from orbit |
| 21:28 |
nerzhul |
the current possibilities are callbacks on events, and create formspec, just look at #5088 to know the current features |
| 21:28 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5088 -- Client side scripting/modding by nerzhul |
| 21:28 |
nerzhul |
it's the early stages |
| 21:29 |
nerzhul |
and the callbacks doesn't permit many things because we don't have api for, they are mainly reading client informations, not writing, atm |
| 21:29 |
nerzhul |
after merge, modders and devs like you will be free to help |
| 21:30 |
nerzhul |
i prefer to keep the branch frozen to merge it after a last rebase |
| 21:30 |
sofar |
is there a handle to localplayer in CSM? |
| 21:30 |
sofar |
a global one? |
| 21:30 |
nerzhul |
just look at the pr |
| 21:30 |
sofar |
I'm lazy |
| 21:30 |
nerzhul |
me too :p |
| 21:30 |
nerzhul |
you can also display chat messages, and we prepared the local commands |
| 21:31 |
sofar |
trying to play a sound but it loops |
| 21:31 |
juhdanad |
nerzhul: one more question, are read-only client active object references implementable? Without them, Lua get_pointed_thing() is impossible. |
| 21:32 |
nerzhul |
juhdanad, it's possible without doubt, we just need to create a LuaCAO object reference and make it obtainable using core.get_cao |
| 21:32 |
nerzhul |
we also have the global step implemented, permitting mods to do their periodic needs |
| 21:32 |
sofar |
nerzhul: client side sounds are looped - seems a bug |
| 21:32 |
juhdanad |
I'm looking forward to that! |
| 21:32 |
nerzhul |
sofar, strange it uses the same behaviour as server |
| 21:32 |
sofar |
minetest.after(10, function() |
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sofar |
minetest.sound_play("doors_door_close", {gain = 1.0, loop = false}) |
| 21:32 |
sofar |
end) |
| 21:33 |
sofar |
still loops, incorrect API usage? |
| 21:33 |
nerzhul |
sofar, => https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5088/files#diff-c74ce8020dc55a1a287e78c2976e0e7eR27 |
| 21:33 |
nerzhul |
it's the same call for client & server, we extracted sound API from server to share it between client & server |
| 21:33 |
sofar |
so, completely incompat format |
| 21:34 |
sofar |
param #2 server side is {soundparams} table format |
| 21:34 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2 -- Burned wood |
| 21:34 |
sofar |
now it wants a bool? |
| 21:34 |
nerzhul |
sofar, => https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5088/files#diff-ec9c246444a86a039da70669e6740c89L966 |
| 21:34 |
nerzhul |
it's the original call |
| 21:35 |
nerzhul |
in fact it's extract from mainmenu, err, not server |
| 21:35 |
sofar |
that seems broken then |
| 21:35 |
sofar |
it should be the one from server |
| 21:35 |
sofar |
since client side needs to play sounds in worldpos |
| 21:35 |
sofar |
and where other players are |
| 21:35 |
nerzhul |
sofar, if it's broken it's broken client side in mainmenu too |
| 21:36 |
sofar |
no, mainmenu has no concept of pos |
| 21:36 |
nerzhul |
sofar, you are free to PR on the branch and i will merge the fix |
| 21:36 |
sofar |
it's fine in mainmenu to always play centered :) |
| 21:36 |
nerzhul |
i don't have time to do all things, look at this changeset, it's huge, but needs more hands :) |
| 21:36 |
sofar |
we can consider it a bug |
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sofar |
and fix after |
| 21:37 |
nerzhul |
it's possible as CSM will not be used by server owners at first, and stable clients are released at tagging |
| 21:37 |
sofar |
it'll be fun for people experimenting client-side |
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sofar |
someone is going to make an ambiance mod right away |
| 21:38 |
sofar |
and that will work already (even with this bug) |
| 21:38 |
nerzhul |
sofar, i want a client side ambiance mod yeah |
| 21:38 |
nerzhul |
also i want to handle chat with colors client side too :p |
| 21:38 |
nerzhul |
that was 2 interesting goals |
| 21:39 |
nerzhul |
CSM adds many interesting client features, merging it will permit to implement and discuss about features in separated PR with a common codebase easily :) |
| 21:40 |
nerzhul |
and yes, we need core.get_local_player() with a LocalPlayer CAO object reference, like other CAO, it's mandatory to add more things |
| 21:40 |
Fixer |
i would like to see more ambience for sure |
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nerzhul |
imagine a player chat, we permit to add a volatile text over his head using Lua, in a later future :p |
| 21:41 |
nerzhul |
Change the player text adding HP bar for example over his head :) |
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sofar |
why not a global static ref to `localplayer` that's cached and always usable? |
| 21:45 |
sofar |
seems much more logical |
| 21:45 |
sofar |
even `player` would do |
| 21:46 |
sofar |
well, that would be an easy conflict, so, perhaps `localplayer` is OK |
| 21:51 |
nerzhul |
it's possible, just code it and pr |
| 21:51 |
sofar |
you know what's funny in preview |
| 21:51 |
sofar |
it prints on_placenode but that's the node *before* placement |
| 21:52 |
sofar |
we need _after_ versions too |
| 21:52 |
sofar |
and then we need versions of where the server updates the mesh |
| 21:52 |
sofar |
so you can do things like queue placed nodes, and only print when the server confirms placement |
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sofar |
anyway |
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nerzhul |
sofar, we may have before_node and after_node in the same call i think |
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