| Time |
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| 00:00 |
paramat |
GetBiomeInfo what biome info are you requesting? biome at point? |
| 00:00 |
GetBiomeInfo |
paramat: at point, why not? the one hmmmmmmmmmmmmm wanted |
| 00:00 |
paramat |
i'll add that if i can |
| 00:01 |
paramat |
it's much requested |
| 00:01 |
paramat |
i miss hmmmmm |
| 00:02 |
paramat |
ok it's on my todo list |
| 00:03 |
GetBiomeInfo |
weather mods will use it for sure |
| 00:04 |
GetBiomeInfo |
they can request biome info at point and decide snows it or rains it etc |
| 00:04 |
twoelk |
hm - so mobs can wander around and still keep to their biome not by looking for nodes but by requesting biome info? |
| 00:04 |
GetBiomeInfo |
or when growing stuff |
| 00:05 |
GetBiomeInfo |
say you trying to grow vegitables in arctic... > biomecheck > will not grow |
| 00:05 |
est31 |
I just fail to see the point in organizing defaultsettings.cpp |
| 00:06 |
paramat |
i think it's organised enough |
| 00:06 |
paramat |
as long as those mapgen things are moved as requested |
| 00:06 |
est31 |
but shrug, if he really wants to organize it... |
| 00:06 |
twoelk |
so some greenhouse mod will have to override biome info to grow stuff out of biome ;-P |
| 00:06 |
paramat |
yeah no prob |
| 00:07 |
paramat |
lem |
| 00:08 |
ShadowNinja |
paramat: I updated the defaultsettings pull. Does it look good to you now? |
| 00:09 |
GetBiomeInfo |
twoelk: you can add more challenge to farming for sure |
| 00:10 |
paramat |
looking |
| 00:11 |
twoelk |
so would each node carry biomeinfo or will it be recalculated at request? |
| 00:12 |
paramat |
there's already a function that calculates biome at point, it's used in mapgen, the API would just access that |
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| 00:12 |
paramat |
that returns a biome ID, then in lua you can get the biome name and maybe other info |
| 00:13 |
twoelk |
so regardless of player or mod action the biomes always stay the same? |
| 00:14 |
twoelk |
what about mods that change mapgen largescale? |
| 00:14 |
paramat |
yes defined by the heat/humidity noise params and the 'heat/humidity points' of registered biomes |
| 00:15 |
paramat |
if mods change the nodes in the terrain, calculated biome locations don't change |
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| 00:17 |
twoelk |
so all them built over lakes will stay biome corralsea and wont grow trees if they are told to stick to biomeinfo :-D |
| 00:17 |
paramat |
correct |
| 00:19 |
twoelk |
can't remember; did minetest have underground biomes? |
| 00:19 |
paramat |
it does, just 1 from y = -112 down |
| 00:20 |
paramat |
just default:stone |
| 00:20 |
paramat |
mainly because other stone types have no ores |
| 00:21 |
twoelk |
I wonder if a cave biome might be usefull |
| 00:22 |
paramat |
perhaps other stone types should have coal, to make it easier to find |
| 00:22 |
paramat |
if i'm allowed to make coal a full-cube texture then we won't need multiple coal nodes |
| 00:23 |
twoelk |
actually biomes could be used to make largescale regions with different properties/ores underground |
| 00:23 |
paramat |
coal is suitable to be full-cube |
| 00:23 |
paramat |
biomes don't affect cavegen |
| 00:23 |
paramat |
ores can be limited to certain biomes |
| 00:24 |
paramat |
i do this for dirt blobs |
| 00:24 |
twoelk |
yeah, but you could have coal rich biomes or other stuff |
| 00:24 |
paramat |
yes |
| 00:25 |
twoelk |
you could have different types of caves according to biome |
| 00:28 |
paramat |
caves are cut after biomes are calculated and placed so theoretically yes |
| 00:28 |
paramat |
but i'm not enthusiastic |
| 00:29 |
paramat |
caves are part of 'base terrain', which is fairly independent of biomes |
| 00:29 |
paramat |
'base terrain generation' |
| 00:29 |
zorman2000 |
paramat, I think it would be nice to have different types of caves by default |
| 00:29 |
zorman2000 |
But I do understand what you are saying |
| 00:30 |
twoelk |
I was just musing this could give the underground some structured variety |
| 00:30 |
paramat |
well i'm going to add underground decorations |
| 00:31 |
zorman2000 |
That would be very nice |
| 00:31 |
paramat |
(or try to) |
| 00:31 |
zorman2000 |
A glowing mushroom |
| 00:32 |
twoelk |
like the red ones on Xanadu that grow only on exposed coal? |
| 00:33 |
ShadowNinja |
paramat: Good to merge defaultsettings then? |
| 00:35 |
paramat |
hm i will have to trust you on the changes, have you rechecked since latest update? |
| 00:35 |
ShadowNinja |
Yep. |
| 00:35 |
paramat |
+1 |
| 00:38 |
ShadowNinja |
Just #5031 left now. |
| 00:38 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5031 -- Server list cleanup by ShadowNinja |
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paramat |
sofar game#1513 |
| 02:51 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1513 -- Tree log decorations: Replace lua tables with .mts files by paramat |
| 04:24 |
twoelk |
the more I think of it the more I like the idea of underground biomes |
| 04:26 |
twoelk |
adding some things that makes living underground possible for extended mining might also reduce the need of underground farming of normal crops and trees |
| 04:28 |
twoelk |
some underground source of sticks and something edible |
| 04:33 |
twoelk |
there could be biomes of more sediments or others more karst like with sinkholes near the surface, ore rich lava contact zones or large caves with some sort of flora feeding on energy rich ores, crystal rich crevices and deep shafts |
| 04:49 |
paramat |
there could be edible mushrooms |
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| 11:06 |
nrzkt |
est31, i pushed a first for #5033 |
| 11:06 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5033 -- BADLY broken: Recent checkins break Active Objects |
| 11:06 |
nrzkt |
a fix* |
| 11:07 |
nrzkt |
a missing const in parent ServerActiveObject |
| 11:17 |
sfan5 |
nrzkt: clang still complains about this http://sprunge.us/DDMQ |
| 11:18 |
nrzkt |
sfan5, okay i'm looking for this too and pushing the fix when it's done |
| 11:22 |
nrzkt |
it's pushed, thanks |
| 11:26 |
Thomas-S |
I don't know, if this is already reported, but building the latest sources from gitub fails: http://pastebin.com/raw/7wexPs2S |
| 11:27 |
sfan5 |
you can blame ShadowNinja for that |
| 11:28 |
sfan5 |
Thomas-S: fix pushed |
| 11:29 |
Thomas-S |
Thank you very much! |
| 11:32 |
nrzkt |
sfan5, travis build are releases, right ? |
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nrzkt |
sfan5, can you repush i did an error on master |
| 11:36 |
nrzkt |
i discaded your commit by pushing to wrong origin |
| 11:38 |
nrzkt |
sfan5, i take it from your origin, discard my request for push |
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nrzkt |
sfan5, est31 sofar Zeno` please review #5035 |
| 11:40 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5035 -- Add WARN_AS_ERROR flag to prevent non fixed warnings by nerzhul |
| 11:52 |
Zeno` |
why are warnings ignored in the first place?! |
| 11:56 |
Zeno` |
I don't think anything that adds warnings should even be merged |
| 11:56 |
Zeno` |
if it's a false alarm (and you're 110% sure) then suppress the warning, otherwise it should be taken seriously |
| 11:57 |
Zeno` |
I guess if we're not disciplined enough to take warnings seriously then -Werror should be add to ALL builds |
| 11:57 |
Zeno` |
not just release |
| 11:59 |
Zeno` |
sorry nrzkt but I can't +1 that PR |
| 11:59 |
Zeno` |
it's either for all builds or none at all |
| 12:01 |
Zeno` |
also doesn't LuaJIT have warnings? |
| 12:01 |
Zeno` |
i.e. stuff we can't fix? |
| 12:02 |
Zeno` |
(or Lua... one of the two) |
| 12:08 |
Zeno` |
this one: https://travis-ci.org/minetest/minetest/jobs/191892538#L596 |
| 12:08 |
Zeno` |
does travis not build release versions? |
| 12:18 |
nrzkt |
Zeno`, i can make it enabled for all UNIX builds if you want |
| 12:19 |
nrzkt |
i tested on my machine keeping default build options, i removed a const in inheritance to make overloading and it make errors, now just tell on the PR if we enable it everytime or just on release build ? |
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| 12:20 |
Zeno` |
it makes error for debug builds? |
| 12:20 |
nrzkt |
no, as flag is only pushed to release build by default, but i can change it |
| 12:21 |
Zeno` |
why should debug builds be treated differently? |
| 12:21 |
nrzkt |
i don't think we have debug builds |
| 12:21 |
Zeno` |
I really don't like it because I'm not sure why we would ignore warnings anyway |
| 12:21 |
nrzkt |
i just kept WARN_ALL thing |
| 12:21 |
Zeno` |
oh, come on |
| 12:22 |
Zeno` |
nearly every build I do is a debug build :P |
| 12:22 |
nrzkt |
i don't want to ignore warning personnaly |
| 12:22 |
Zeno` |
i can't remember the last release build I did |
| 12:23 |
Zeno` |
nrzkt, how come the Lua warning is not treated as an error? |
| 12:23 |
Zeno` |
(with your PR I mean) |
| 12:24 |
nrzkt |
because it's applied on CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS in src/ directory |
| 12:24 |
nrzkt |
like every other MT flag |
| 12:24 |
nrzkt |
i changed the behaviour, it's now enabled by default on every UNIX build, not depending on debug/release |
| 12:24 |
nrzkt |
and rebased from master |
| 12:25 |
Zeno` |
where is the bundled Lua? |
| 12:25 |
nrzkt |
src/lua |
| 12:25 |
nrzkt |
and CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS not CMAKE_C_FLAGS are modified |
| 12:25 |
nrzkt |
i should go, see you, add comments on the pr |
| 12:25 |
Zeno` |
ahh ok |
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IhrFussel |
Can someone tell me where in the code the engine renames users as "unknown" when they are no longer connected? I think there is a bug in there |
| 13:47 |
IhrFussel |
IMO the engine shouldn't even display such "unknown" clients, it just should remove them from the list...or was that implemented on purpose? |
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| 13:51 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, grep helps. server.cpp L2900 |
| 13:52 |
Krock |
this means the player are already removed from the environment - just not from the client list |
| 13:53 |
Krock |
the line number might be sligtly different. didn't update my repo |
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IhrFussel |
Krock, and that doesn't get fixed because? |
| 13:53 |
Krock |
either because the source of this bug isn't known or nobody wants to fix it |
| 13:54 |
Krock |
just ignoring these unknown players isn't how you solve such a problem |
| 13:56 |
IhrFussel |
Exactly...well I'm experiencing "disconnecting peer" issues in the log and think those are the clients that are still shown as unknown in the server status...and btw that bug is also very annoying cause the diconnected client does NOT ever tell "connection timeout" when that happens, so the clients continue playing and playing until they realize that nothing loads anymore |
| 13:57 |
Krock |
maybe it's because the connection didn't timeout but the server doesn't handle its requests anymore |
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IhrFussel |
Clients should see an error in that case too...should I file an issue on github regarding that? |
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Krock |
there are at least two issues about that |
| 13:59 |
Krock |
players being deleted by accident, which causes these "unknown" entries in the list |
| 13:59 |
IhrFussel |
What should I look for as keyword? |
| 14:01 |
Krock |
I used the keywords "player delete" and got #4067 and #1425 |
| 14:01 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4067 -- Canceling: No player for peer_id when too much objects on the map |
| 14:01 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1425 -- Deleting extraneous entities from a mapblock deletes PLAYERS also |
| 14:01 |
Krock |
I believe unknown players are also caused by one of these issues |
| 14:02 |
Krock |
basically, issue 4067 is just a duplicate |
| 14:05 |
IhrFussel |
But #4802 didn't seem to fix it then...my server version is new from Jan 3 |
| 14:05 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4802 -- Don't clear excess entities on mapblock save (possible fix for #4067, #1425, etc.) by cheapie |
| 14:07 |
IhrFussel |
And the pull 4847 that referenced it didn't fix it either :/ |
| 14:10 |
IhrFussel |
I get that error every few hours...sometimes it only deletes one client, other times up to 5 |
| 14:10 |
IhrFussel |
I'll increase the object limit even more maybe that fixes it |
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Fixer |
0.4.15? |
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IhrFussel |
Fixer, server version is 0.4.15-dev (Jan 3) |
| 14:16 |
IhrFussel |
The client version shouldn't matter...right? |
| 14:17 |
Fixer |
no idea |
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IhrFussel |
Well logic tells me no it should absolutely not matter since it's the server code that deletes the player |
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* Zeno` |
hugs everyone |
| 14:25 |
IhrFussel |
Maybe the function that removes objects needs a certain check? Like "entity or player" |
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IhrFussel |
Or player objects need some property that makes them unique compared to other objects |
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IhrFussel |
But sometimes It even happens when the mapblock has 0 objects or only a few...so I kinda doubt it's the only problem |
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nrzkt |
sfan5, i changed the PR to a simple thing: mark only overloaded-virtual as an error |
| 14:58 |
nrzkt |
#5035 |
| 14:58 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5035 -- Mark overloaded-virtual warning as an error by nerzhul |
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sfan5 |
nrzkt: good idea if it's only for overloaded-virtual +1 |
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IhrFussel |
Is there a way to download the exe without zip? |
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sfan5 |
no |
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IhrFussel |
sfan5, but if I only copy the .exe file would it work? |
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sfan5 |
depends |
| 16:12 |
Calinou |
.exe of what, IhrFussel? |
| 16:12 |
Calinou |
the Minetest executable needs some data files to function |
| 16:12 |
Calinou |
it won't work alone |
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IhrFussel |
Calinou, I meant to post that in minetest channel oops^^ Umm well there is a player who apparently doesn't know how to extract .zip so I was just asking if it's possible to simply send it without the other files...but we already got the "not found" error haha |
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Calinou |
nope, it's not possible |
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Calinou |
extracing a .zip is really easy, come on |
| 16:15 |
Calinou |
by the way, Windows 10 will recommend extracing a .zip when you try to run an .exe file inside |
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IhrFussel |
You know some players are VERY VERY young on my server so no it's not easy for them...but I still try to find solutions, this time around seems like there's none |
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Fixer |
IhrFussel: i guess exe installer is good for them, it should create a Shortcut in Start menu somewhere |
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IhrFussel |
Fixer, I honestly thought that the .exe in /bin is an installer |
| 16:23 |
Fixer |
it is not |
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IhrFussel |
I figured that out now xD |
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IhrFussel |
So Minetest on Windows never installs? |
| 16:27 |
Fixer |
lets move to #minetest |
| 16:30 |
Fixer |
0.4.15 has no installer right now |
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sfan5 |
varying packet serialization depending on prot ver in the Server::Send<something>() methods is a total clusterfuck |
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sapier |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5041 please comment |
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paramat |
good to see you here |
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paramat |
will merge game#1511 game#1513 later |
| 19:31 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1511 -- Explosions should extinguish fire by lhofhansl |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1513 -- Tree log decorations: Replace lua tables with .mts files by paramat |
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red-001 |
rubenwardy do you approve #5000? It is the second commit of #4472 and you approved that pr |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5000 -- Simpler serverlist search by red-001 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4472 -- Make serverlist searchable. by red-001 |
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red-001 |
also sofar you said that you approve the first two commits of #4472 does that mean that you approve #5000? |
| 19:42 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4472 -- Make serverlist searchable. by red-001 |
| 19:42 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5000 -- Simpler serverlist search by red-001 |
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paramat |
i forgot to change the spreads of heat and humidity noises in settingtypes.txt and minetest.conf, will fix very soon |
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sapier |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5043 modders might be thankfull about this |
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VanessaE |
holy shit |
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VanessaE |
it's a ghost :) |
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nrzkt |
merging #5023 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5023 -- Only set material flag on rendered meshes by lhofhansl |
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sapier |
buuuuuhhhhh ;-) |
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nrzkt |
hi sapier |
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sapier |
hello nrzkt |
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est31 |
sapier: server side security is something different than client side |
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est31 |
also, we broke actual features |
| 21:39 |
est31 |
with clientside security, there is no problem if we "break" something because we won't promise to keep anything stable until its enabled by default |
| 21:39 |
est31 |
in fact, I'd say that even if you disabled mod_security, the client side lua security should still be enabled |
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sfan5 |
sapier: what made you use a Makefile for android building, it fucking sucks |
| 21:40 |
sfan5 |
also hello |
| 21:40 |
sapier |
yes that's why we can demand security to be added first, once it's merged without security we will "break features" again |
| 21:40 |
est31 |
well idk, i doubt that duckbrain can implement the security I have in mind |
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sapier |
sfan5 well I was completely new to android and android by that time was about to switch build systems anyway so I used what I already knew |
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est31 |
it should involve at minimum a separate sandboxed process for defense in depth |
| 21:41 |
sapier |
btw didn't google complete that switch and discontinue the old build system anyway? |
| 21:41 |
est31 |
sapier: I think it was about maven vs gradle |
| 21:42 |
est31 |
sapier: we have since switched to gradle |
| 21:42 |
est31 |
for NDK nothing was deprecated yet, afaik |
| 21:42 |
est31 |
and tbh, I've seen worse android NDK build scripts |
| 21:42 |
sapier |
I don't know I was hoping someone else would start continuing the android thingy once the initial pains have been done ... obviously that's been an error |
| 21:43 |
est31 |
you know, libreoffice actually uses automake |
| 21:43 |
est31 |
automake, can you imagine that |
| 21:43 |
est31 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/e41673820ffe200df78b1ec185ccb9d9ca962ae1 |
| 21:44 |
sapier |
for what I remember rest of minetest uses cmake ;-) |
| 21:44 |
sapier |
I don't know but maybe cmake provides some kind of android support in between? |
| 21:44 |
est31 |
yes |
| 21:44 |
est31 |
it has android support now |
| 21:44 |
sfan5 |
experimental cmake android support was added recently |
| 21:44 |
sfan5 |
est31: btw please review #5039 if you have time |
| 21:44 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5039 -- Add particle animation, glow by sfan5 |
| 21:45 |
sapier |
so what about just waiting a little bit and switch to this one once it's at least somehow useable? |
| 21:45 |
sfan5 |
there's also the issue with building dependencies |
| 21:45 |
est31 |
I'm okay with a switch |
| 21:45 |
sfan5 |
that should be done seperately anyway |
| 21:45 |
sfan5 |
switching to cmake for android too sounds good though |
| 21:45 |
est31 |
as long as it still works |
| 21:46 |
est31 |
cmake has functionality to download dependencies |
| 21:46 |
est31 |
also, to specifically pin hashes |
| 21:46 |
est31 |
that's very nice as it allows for a more verified build |
| 21:46 |
sapier |
sounds great ... just one open issue ... who's gonna do it? ;-) |
| 21:46 |
est31 |
:) |
| 21:47 |
paramat |
lordfingle says he may be able to help out with android soon |
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paramat |
he saw my request in the forum for new android maintainers |
| 21:48 |
est31 |
nice |
| 21:49 |
est31 |
its a quite big change though, not sure whether hes' ready for it |
| 21:49 |
est31 |
he's |
| 21:51 |
sapier |
great there's no (satisfying) way to colorize a sheep using colors instead of separate textures atm |
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sofar |
death to cmake, autotools all the projects! |
| 22:16 |
sfan5 |
pls no |
| 22:16 |
sofar |
having worked on 4 linux distributions, of which 3 professionally, for over 10+ years, I can state, without hesitation, that cmake is a fucking nightmare every damn time |
| 22:17 |
nrzkt |
sofar, autotools are a nightmare themselves, what is your complain about cmake ? |
| 22:17 |
sofar |
in our latest distribution, we auto-package 95% of our packages. The remainder is surprisingly often? cmake |
| 22:17 |
sfan5 |
auto-packaging with cmake isn't much harder than with autotools |
| 22:18 |
sofar |
yes it is |
| 22:18 |
sofar |
but hey, ignore me who am I doing a professional linux distro that autopackages 95% of their packages which is just anecdotal right? |
| 22:19 |
sfan5 |
why is it harder? |
| 22:19 |
sapier |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5045 what do you think about this one? Colorize behaves exactly as it's defined. But it's actually not what at least I would expect. |
| 22:19 |
nrzkt |
sofar, strangely FreeBSD packages cmake package easily without complaining :) |
| 22:19 |
nrzkt |
you add a port, add USES=cmake to port, and then... it just works |
| 22:20 |
nrzkt |
sorry linux packaging is shit |
| 22:20 |
sapier |
usually there are good reasons for using either of them ... most time it's "because we already have 90% this way" ;-) |
| 22:20 |
sofar |
sfan5: because every package can ship their own cmake templates making a mess of things (and it's not like they are attempting to avoid it... cmake rules are a disaster of undiscoverability and inconsistency) |
| 22:20 |
sofar |
mind you, minetest doesn't use cmake so badly |
| 22:21 |
sofar |
but the amount of cmake abuse it too damn high |
| 22:21 |
nrzkt |
in fact you can do shit with either cmake or autotools |
| 22:21 |
sofar |
we've spent almost a month with 2 people on hhvm |
| 22:21 |
sofar |
facebook decided to make a better php |
| 22:21 |
sofar |
they dropped autotools and went to cmake |
| 22:21 |
* sofar |
sounds of death |
| 22:22 |
sfan5 |
huge projects pretty much always take long to configure correctly |
| 22:22 |
nrzkt |
hhvm should die, PHP 7.0 fixed problems pointed by HHVM |
| 22:22 |
sofar |
nrzkt: aye, that too |
| 22:28 |
sofar |
uh, I'm looking at #5000, but I don't see a search box appear in the menus? |
| 22:28 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5000 -- Simpler serverlist search by red-001 |
| 22:30 |
sofar |
nvm, menu's don't update unless I install |
| 22:36 |
sapier |
nerzuhl is same as nrzkt if I remember correct? |
| 22:36 |
sofar |
yes |
| 22:37 |
nrzkt |
sapier, ofc |
| 22:37 |
sapier |
nrzkt I'd like to keep the reference for the getTextureMod thing but for some reason this breaks the behaviour |
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sapier |
setTextureMod of course |
| 22:38 |
sapier |
once mod is a reference the stored values for the modificator somehow get messed up |
| 22:38 |
sapier |
to be honest I don't understand why and would be glad if someone could explain it to me ;-) |
| 22:40 |
est31 |
sofar: we ship our own discover templates as well |
| 22:42 |
est31 |
they are needed because distros ship broken templates themselves and minetest is supposed to work cross distro |
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sapier1 |
does anyone have knowledge about coloring? :-) more in detail about color subtractions and additions ;-) |
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sofar |
sapier1: sure, yes |
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sapier1 |
MYMIN(256, dst_c.getRed() - (255 - color.getRed())), +MYMIN(256, dst_c.getGreen() - (255 - color.getGreen())), +MYMIN(256, dst_c.getBlue() - (255 - color.getBlue())) |
| 23:54 |
sapier1 |
ups |
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sapier1 |
https://gist.github.com/sapier/a8ce7b49ef3529545fe96624b31cbd6f |
| 23:55 |
sapier1 |
can someone explain to me why this results in coloring as you'd expect on painting to a white wall? |
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sapier1 |
255 - color is difference from max so the result is the actuel color if it's subtracted from a maxed out (white) image |
