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Hijiri |
est31: I don't see anything on the line you linke |
| 00:07 |
Hijiri |
when you talked about krock's suggestion |
| 00:07 |
Hijiri |
I didn't update it since I linked the PR either |
| 00:07 |
Hijiri |
push anything, I mean |
| 00:08 |
Hijiri |
oh |
| 00:08 |
Hijiri |
the suggestion was in IRC |
| 00:09 |
Hijiri |
I'll try doing the change, though the code there I copy pasted I'm pretty sure |
| 00:10 |
Hijiri |
hmm, but isn't it possible to lose precision? |
| 00:11 |
Hijiri |
well, that's assuming doing float * stuff will keep precision when the output is a integer |
| 00:13 |
Hijiri |
bleh |
| 00:13 |
Hijiri |
gcc6 pie stuff errors |
| 00:14 |
Hijiri |
what flags do I set to fix |
| 00:18 |
Hijiri |
do you fix your liquid bugs with liquid types? |
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est31 |
Hijiri: thanks |
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sarene |
hello |
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sarene |
i'm having problems with formspecs and i'm 99% sure it's just me being stupid |
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est31 |
sarene: ask your question in #minetest |
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sarene |
k |
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est31 |
this channel is for development of minetest itself |
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OldCoder |
Is there a reason minetest.sound_stop would have no effect? |
| 06:01 |
paramat |
i don't know of any issues with it |
| 06:04 |
OldCoder |
paramat, O.K. I have a simple test where the handle seems correct but stop has no effect. Only unusual issue is that the sound clip is 3 minutes long. |
| 06:04 |
OldCoder |
Does stop take effect at the end of a sound clip? That might be it |
| 06:05 |
OldCoder |
Hm. Another netsplit? Very low ratio of voiced. |
| 06:07 |
paramat |
stop should stop immediately |
| 06:08 |
OldCoder |
Ok thanks. Odd issue. |
| 06:08 |
paramat |
looped sound? |
| 06:12 |
OldCoder |
Hm? It does not stop |
| 06:12 |
paramat |
i mean is the 'loop' parameter set to true? |
| 06:12 |
OldCoder |
It was, yes |
| 06:12 |
OldCoder |
But stop does not cause a restart... I don't think that's it. Will narrow down. |
| 06:13 |
paramat |
apparently looped sounds have to be attached to an object |
| 06:13 |
OldCoder |
Hm? Explain? |
| 06:13 |
OldCoder |
Or link to API? |
| 06:14 |
OldCoder |
You mean, turn loop off may help? |
| 06:14 |
paramat |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L464 |
| 06:14 |
OldCoder |
Hm; but latest jukebox mod also sets loop=true. Reviewing. |
| 06:15 |
paramat |
in the fire mod looped sounds are not attached to objects and sound bugs are reported |
| 06:15 |
OldCoder |
Experimenting, will report back, thank you |
| 06:19 |
OldCoder |
Turning loop off makes no difference. Will need to isolate this. |
| 06:25 |
paramat |
no netsplit, only 8 here have a little yellow light next to their name on my irc client (which i assume means voiced) |
| 06:26 |
OldCoder |
Hm |
| 06:27 |
OldCoder |
paramat, in on_rightclick, the node parameter should be an objectref of the type needed to associate with a sound, correct? |
| 06:27 |
paramat |
not sure |
| 06:28 |
OldCoder |
OK |
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paramat |
#4724 needs more review, good PR |
| 06:37 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4724 -- Improve number of blocks sent and occlusion culling. by lhofhansl |
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Hijiri |
what was the client-side limit on digging, was it one node per 0.1 seconds or per 0.2 seconds? |
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OldCoder |
paramat that syntax { object = <an ObjectRef>, simply crashes when the node is used... do you know if anybody has ever tested it? |
| 07:07 |
OldCoder |
Or if any mod uses it? |
| 07:08 |
paramat |
ah, i haven't used it, perhaps a bug |
| 07:08 |
paramat |
could you open an issue? |
| 07:08 |
OldCoder |
Eventually I owe MT several of them |
| 07:09 |
OldCoder |
Can't tonight, thanks; exhausted |
| 07:09 |
OldCoder |
Running on empty for sleep |
| 07:16 |
OldCoder |
The stop-sound issue is more significant. Stop of a MT sound definitely does not work even with latest git; regardless of the sound-table mode used. |
| 07:40 |
Zeno` |
OldCoder, nothing to do with #1984 ? |
| 07:40 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1984 -- Rename testsounds/ directory to sounds/ by Calinou |
| 07:44 |
paramat |
not related |
| 07:44 |
Zeno` |
wouldn't have thought so, but *shrug* |
| 07:44 |
paramat |
afaik |
| 07:45 |
paramat |
t4im has not been around, so i might complete #4630 |
| 07:45 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4630 -- Fix sandslides and node destruction by falling nodes. by t4im |
| 07:45 |
Zeno` |
I don't think it can be because the sound is still playing |
| 07:45 |
paramat |
stop sound is working for me |
| 07:45 |
Zeno` |
weird |
| 07:46 |
OldCoder |
Stop-sound is fixed |
| 07:46 |
Zeno` |
OldCoder, are you using a "standard" build or those libs you custom built? |
| 07:46 |
Zeno` |
oh. sorry, and cool :) |
| 07:46 |
OldCoder |
Zeno`, Hi. To explain briefly: |
| 07:47 |
OldCoder |
#1 There does seem to be a mismatch between an API document that paramat linked and git-current. Error message suggests a core as opposed to a mod issue. |
| 07:47 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome |
| 07:47 |
OldCoder |
#2 However, the stop-sound issue was in OpenAL on the client side and is now corrected. |
| 07:47 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2 -- Burned wood |
| 07:47 |
OldCoder |
Thank you. I will research #1 further. |
| 07:47 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome |
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Zeno` |
thank you |
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* OldCoder |
bows |
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OldCoder |
Zeno`, BTW C PM |
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paramat |
heh |
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| 08:23 |
paramat |
will merge game#1365 in a moment |
| 08:23 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1365 -- Default: Add 'acacia leaves simple' texture by paramat |
| 08:26 |
Krock |
wait what? we have bushes now? |
| 08:26 |
paramat |
yeah, well just the nodes so far. merging |
| 08:30 |
paramat |
merged |
| 08:30 |
paramat |
changes to biomes get done all at once and before release |
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| 09:34 |
paramat |
please can anyone review #4740 ? |
| 09:34 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4740 -- Builtin/../falling: Fix bugs caused by 'ignore' nodes by paramat |
| 09:38 |
Krock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4740/files#diff-a93e20fc47b20484bdc9d6f539b9d631R161 unnecessary to change this. "d_bottom" is nil, when n_bottom is nil ;) |
| 09:39 |
Krock |
but otherwise looks fine. You adapted T4im's changes, right? |
| 09:43 |
paramat |
well, n_bottom can be true and d_bottom can be false |
| 09:43 |
paramat |
yes |
| 09:43 |
paramat |
er, i think |
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paramat |
anyway need others to check that |
| 09:51 |
paramat |
i wondered about that myself |
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paramat |
game#1340 seems good now |
| 10:45 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1340 -- flint-and-steel: trigger node on_ignite, add it to tnt, gunpowder, coal by Ferk |
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Krock |
hmmmm, would you have a minute to review #4674 ? It's a trivial 2-line change to generate a debug symbol file for release builds |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4674 -- MSVC: Improve compiler flags by SmallJoker |
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paramat |
#4740 now tested, can anyone review this simple PR? after this i'll add nodeupdate functions to core namespace |
| 15:17 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4740 -- Builtin/../falling: Fix bugs caused by 'ignore' nodes by paramat |
| 15:25 |
Krock |
LGTM |
| 15:41 |
sfan5 |
est31: bugs with mod security are not feature requests |
| 15:41 |
sfan5 |
you don't go removing lots of functions and then "oh you want them back? that's a feature request" |
| 15:41 |
est31 |
sfan5: its a missing feature |
| 15:41 |
sfan5 |
no it's a bug |
| 15:41 |
est31 |
and it can be entirely worked around |
| 15:41 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 15:41 |
sfan5 |
that doesn't make it a feature request |
| 15:41 |
est31 |
also, its a good security practice to make API surface small |
| 15:42 |
sfan5 |
mod security is removing additonal functions not related to securing stuff |
| 15:42 |
sfan5 |
uh no |
| 15:42 |
est31 |
because then your chance gets lower for bugs to pop up |
| 15:42 |
est31 |
and ruin your show |
| 15:42 |
sfan5 |
mod security is supposed to secure mods |
| 15:42 |
sfan5 |
not redesign the whole lua standard lib |
| 15:42 |
sfan5 |
and arbitrarily remove stuff |
| 15:43 |
sfan5 |
when you design a new api then you can apply that principle |
| 15:43 |
sfan5 |
but not when securing an additional one |
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sfan5 |
s/additional/existing/ |
| 15:43 |
est31 |
okay |
| 15:43 |
est31 |
its an API break |
| 15:44 |
est31 |
and for no good reason |
| 15:44 |
est31 |
so a bug it is |
| 15:44 |
est31 |
but no blocker IMO |
| 15:44 |
est31 |
mod writers can work around it |
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thePalindrome |
I disagree there |
| 15:44 |
sfan5 |
you know what makes minetests api so nice? |
| 15:44 |
thePalindrome |
Ever heard of Minecraft 1.8? |
| 15:44 |
sfan5 |
the fact that we DONT break it every release |
| 15:45 |
est31 |
guess how stuff looks like, we won't ship with mod security after all. |
| 15:45 |
sfan5 |
mod security may be nice |
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thePalindrome |
We aren't gnome :P |
| 15:45 |
sfan5 |
but in the current state we CANT leave it enabled on release |
| 15:47 |
est31 |
sfan5: agreed |
| 15:47 |
sfan5 |
it breaks (at least) 3 quite unrelated things for no reason |
| 15:48 |
sfan5 |
it's unfortunate that mod security has not received enough testing |
| 15:48 |
sfan5 |
but in this state it's not very usable |
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Krock |
hmmmm, so a Lenovo Thinkstation S10 is not good enough? Quad Processor @2.66 GHz and 35 Gigaflops aren't good enough to run a minetest debug build? |
| 15:54 |
Krock |
c'mon |
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sfan5 |
have you considered not using windows xp? |
| 15:54 |
Krock |
does that change anything? I really doubt it |
| 15:54 |
Krock |
there can't be auch a huge speed improvement |
| 15:55 |
Krock |
but to answer your question: yes I did. Sadly I'm somehow blocking myself from switching to Linux for some reason |
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thePalindrome |
don't really know why |
| 16:00 |
Krock |
hmm? |
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thePalindrome |
Why would you choose xp over anything else :P |
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LiquidBugs |
it is insanely fast on current hardware |
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sfan5 |
linux is too |
| 16:23 |
LiquidBugs |
since vista it is much heavier on I/O, it just won't leave my hard drive alone |
| 16:24 |
LiquidBugs |
also this crap with search for updates for hours taking one core, reading 1gig database occasionally, indexing, whatever |
| 16:24 |
LiquidBugs |
takes faaar less space |
| 16:26 |
LiquidBugs |
much more responsive in general |
| 16:26 |
LiquidBugs |
simple interface |
| 16:26 |
LiquidBugs |
no bullshit |
| 16:26 |
Krock |
same wavelength, LiquidBugs :) |
| 16:26 |
LiquidBugs |
it needs some caution in terms of security though |
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* Krock |
hides |
| 16:27 |
LiquidBugs |
best way is to make image of OS + general backup of stuff, and you will be fine (nice thing to have for everybody) |
| 16:28 |
LiquidBugs |
on seperate removable disk |
| 16:29 |
LiquidBugs |
or use linux |
| 16:30 |
LiquidBugs |
seriosly, switch to linux |
| 16:34 |
Foghrye4 |
Don't do it, dude! Wine is a pain in ass! |
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thePalindrome |
Since when? |
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thePalindrome |
The only things I find wine has trouble with are .net and DirectX 10+ |
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Foghrye4 |
Hey, a serious question here. What if player attached to LuaEntity and log off and then log in back? |
| 16:49 |
Foghrye4 |
did he will be attached again? |
| 16:49 |
Foghrye4 |
*Will he |
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thePalindrome |
I don't believe so |
| 16:59 |
thePalindrome |
Since there's no meaningful way to express that |
| 17:00 |
thePalindrome |
I may be wrong though :P |
| 17:00 |
Krock |
no, attachments are cleared |
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Foghrye4 |
Thanks, Krock. |
| 17:01 |
Krock |
(or at least they should be cleared) |
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nrzkt |
#4738 is ready to merge, paramat you can merge if you want |
| 17:38 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4738 -- Only give singleplayer 4 basic privs by default by Wuzzy2 |
| 17:39 |
nrzkt |
#4701 is okay too now |
| 17:39 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4701 -- Windows: Add manifest file and set "High DPI Aware" true (fixes #4287) by adrido |
| 17:41 |
paramat |
ok |
| 17:57 |
paramat |
#4745 part of an unmerged PR by RBA. hmmmm highlighting you since you approved of this part of the original PR |
| 17:57 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4745 -- Digging cracks: Make crack animation optional by paramat |
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paramat |
too tired to merge stuff now |
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LiquidBugs |
!tell paramat so what about that "get biome info" thing? |
| 19:57 |
ShadowBot |
LiquidBugs: O.K. |
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sfan5 |
!tell paramat https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1314 |
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ShadowBot |
sfan5: O.K. |
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