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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2014-12-26

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00:40 hmmmm hey sfan5!
00:40 hmmmm you there
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09:13 sfan5 hmmmm: yes
09:13 hmmmm hey
09:14 sfan5 kahrl: vs13 works with windows 7, just make sure not to take this version for windows apps
09:14 hmmmm 0.4.11 is supposed to be 'out' but it needs the windows binary built
09:14 sfan5 we have mingw binaries
09:14 sfan5 see release draft on github
09:15 sfan5 kahrl: this is the file i installed it from 'vs2013.3_dskexp_DEU.iso'
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09:22 hmmmm yeah but MSVC
09:22 sfan5 yeah, thats the problem
09:22 sfan5 Krock could make msvc32 builds
09:22 hmmmm is there an issue with MSVC building??
09:22 sfan5 but we still don't have msvc64
09:22 sfan5 yes and no
09:22 hmmmm :(
09:23 Krock sfan5, but I don't have leveldb
09:23 sfan5 to build with msvc you need to recompile all the libraries you use
09:23 sfan5 i only have mingw libraries
09:23 Krock I'd have msvc libraries but they're kinda huge to upload
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09:45 gregorycu Building with msvc isn't too bad
09:45 gregorycu Most of the libraries come with minetest itself
09:46 gregorycu With the exception of irrlicht and zlib
09:46 gregorycu And curl
09:46 gregorycu And all the optional libs, whatever they are
09:46 Krock gregorycu, yeah but I'm sure you won't wait 20s for one mapblock to generate (with a lua mapgen) then it's better to have LuaJIT too
09:47 Krock and gettext wouldn't be bad at all
09:47 gregorycu I see
09:47 Krock so "Most of the libraries come with minetest itself" is not correct :3
09:48 gregorycu Most of the non-optional ones
09:48 Krock yeah. additional to this, it would be better to use a recent version of sqlite3 and not the one from minetest :3
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12:58 Zeno` hmmmm, if you can give me ONE example where -Wtype-limits was flagging something as a warning incorrectly then I guess I'd be happier with 565959db
12:59 Zeno` Silencing warning for selfish reasons is BS
13:05 Krock and BS is 10.0
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14:33 hmmmm zeno, serialization version checking.  done.
14:34 Zeno` I already "fixed" them all, but... ok :)
14:34 hmmmm i already explained to you that your criticism is unwarranted because previous to that commit, you did not know about those warnings
14:35 Zeno` fair enough. But what I'm saying is suppressing warnings using a compiler switch is not something I like
14:35 Zeno` it's not "fixing" them
14:35 hmmmm never said it was 'fixing' them... what have you about the warning disabled right above the thing i added?
14:36 Zeno` I think there are 30 or so warnings from that particular one
14:36 Zeno` (that can all be fixed)
14:36 hmmmm alright hatever
14:36 Zeno` and about 40000 other warnings
14:36 hmmmm this is so stupid
14:36 hmmmm either enable -Wextra or don't
14:37 Zeno` seriously, compile the whole thing. There are 40000 warnings
14:37 hmmmm so a 64 bit MSVC build is missing but we should be able to release without that
14:37 Zeno` hmmmm, I think you should release, yes
14:38 hmmmm welp
14:38 Zeno` kinda sick of being in limbo hehe
14:38 hmmmm one of these days i'm going to set up a bunch of VMs and do all the builds myself
14:39 Zeno` all the mingw builds can be cross-compiled already
14:39 Zeno` it's just msvc doesn't like to cooperate heh
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14:42 hmmmm oh cool
14:42 hmmmm i can download VS 2015 preview
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16:29 VanessaE * [ElectronLibre] likes the way his 0.4.11 client shows Minetest 0.4.10-**-dirty in the top right corner.
16:29 VanessaE eh?
16:31 VanessaE [12-26 11:30] <VanessaE> ElectronLibre: where did you download that 0.4.11 build from?
16:31 VanessaE [12-26 11:31] <ElectronLibre> Here VanessaE => minetest.net/download :/
16:31 VanessaE hmmmm: ^^^^ FAIL
16:31 ElectronLibre (Indeed it does VanessaE, but I understand you've had to release MinGW binaries speedy :/.)
16:31 ElectronLibre *fastly
16:32 VanessaE speedily*
16:32 ElectronLibre Thanks.
16:33 kilbith and change the changelog link btw
16:34 hmmmm VanessaE, it worked for me
16:34 hmmmm if those windows binaries are out of date, well then...
16:34 hmmmm they were supposed to be updated
16:35 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~/work/minetest-0.4.11-win32$ strings bin/minetest.exe  |grep 0.4.10
16:35 VanessaE ?VER=0.4.10-367-g3f83ca2 BUILD_TYPE=Release RUN_IN_PLACE=1 USE_GETTEXT=1 USE_SOUND=1 USE_CURL=1 USE_FREETYPE=1 USE_LUAJIT=1 STATIC_SHAREDIR=.
16:35 VanessaE 0.4.10-367-g3f83ca2
16:35 VanessaE yep, it's wrong.
16:35 shadowzone yikes
16:35 hmmmm as of current HEAD?
16:36 VanessaE that's the download from minetest.net as of right now
16:36 hmmmm yes and i told you... the windows binaries must be out of date
16:36 VanessaE (32-bit build at least)
16:36 hmmmm i don't do builds
16:36 sfan5 *sigh*
16:36 hmmmm as it was explained to me, the msvc builds were up to date
16:36 hmmmm er mingw
16:36 hmmmm christ almighty this was horrible
16:37 hmmmm from now on i'm doing the entire release process on my own
16:37 ElectronLibre (I was using the 64 bit one, just to say the problem is in it too)
16:37 sfan5 argh
16:37 sfan5 this fucking git version detection
16:37 sfan5 i fucking hate it
16:37 hmmmm you people suck
16:37 sfan5 it always gets in the way
16:37 sfan5 but we cannot add an option to disable it because someone might accidentally enable that option+
16:38 sfan5 (thats about what sapier used as an argument)
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16:41 sfan5 hmmmm: the mingw builds are up to date
16:42 hmmmm vanessae said that they show up as 0.4.10-dev
16:42 sfan5 also did nobody read the release notes?
16:42 sfan5 it said which commit they were from
16:43 sfan5 i think it was the commit before "bump ver. to 0.4.11"
16:43 sfan5 they show up as -dev because git version detection
16:47 sfan5 wat
16:47 sfan5 why does git add do <tag>-<no. commits>-g<commit id>
16:47 ElectronLibre (They show this precisely, even compiled after the bump commit => https://lut.im/3IMKrmQb/csebjYwD)
16:48 sfan5 hmmmm: the mingw build is up to date
16:48 VanessaE ElectronLibre: see above, that's what I got from `strings`.
16:48 ElectronLibre Yes, I've just seen, git's fault so?
16:49 sfan5 not gits fault
16:49 sfan5 but the version detection did it's job
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16:53 sfan5 built new builds, updated the release on github.
16:56 VanessaE um
16:56 VanessaE there's no executable in bin/
16:57 sfan5 is this a joke
16:57 VanessaE nope, I just checked the 32-bit build
16:57 VanessaE just a bunch of dll's, no minetest.exe in there
16:58 VanessaE the 64-bit build has one, though
16:58 sfan5 does it at least show the correct version
16:58 VanessaE yep
16:59 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~/work$ strings minetest-0.4.11-win64/bin/minetest.exe |grep 0.4.11
16:59 VanessaE VER=0.4.11 BUILD_TYPE=Release RUN_IN_PLACE=1 USE_GETTEXT=1 USE_SOUND=1 USE_CURL=1 USE_FREETYPE=1 USE_LUAJIT=1 STATIC_SHAREDIR=.
16:59 VanessaE 0.4.11
16:59 hmmmm can confirm
17:00 hmmmm there's no .exe in the 32 bit .zip
17:00 hmmmm :{
17:00 sfan5 building a new build currently
17:00 hmmmm hmm
17:00 hmmmm maybe I could come up with some virtual disk setup that people can run with all the build environments installed that are needed for making builds
17:01 sfan5 just set up an ubuntu 12.04 vm
17:01 sfan5 then run the scripts travis runs
17:02 hmmmm hmm
17:05 sfan5 new .zip is out
17:05 hmmmm clap
17:05 VanessaE sfan5: present and tagged as 0.4.11
17:05 VanessaE whether it runs is a windows matter now :)
17:06 * VanessaE throws wine at it
17:06 shadowzone I ran it in wine and wine spazzed out
17:06 sfan5 if it doesn't run in wine it is probable that it doesn't run on windows either
17:06 VanessaE it runs, sorta :)
17:06 sfan5 normally my builds have no problem with wine
17:07 * Calinou throws champagne at it
17:07 sfan5 swap("my builds", "wine") s/have/has/
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17:08 VanessaE well it runs enough to try to create a world and then crashes after that.  probably works ok on real windows.
17:10 sfan5 it actually runs pretty good in wine
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17:11 sfan5 hm
17:11 sfan5 anyone know whether mingw takes .obj files?
17:11 sfan5 if it does i could compile minetest with msvc and link it using mingw's ld
17:13 kahrl just out of curiosity, how do you even build libiconv/gettext with msvc
17:14 sfan5 no idea
17:16 VanessaE yep, I just can't run it here at all under wine (either 64bit or 32bit builds).  both crash with:  fixme:ntdll:NtQuerySemaphore (0xf4,0,0x33e3f0,0x00000008,(nil)) stub!
17:16 Krock kahrl, interesting question. I used gnuwin32
17:16 kahrl I thought that was super outdated
17:16 Krock Couldn't compile it too
17:16 Krock but it works :3
17:16 kahrl do they describe how they built it?
17:18 Krock http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/compile.html
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17:19 kahrl ah so using mingw and then some special hacks to make the results compatible with msvc?
17:19 Krock yeah. looks like they have a magical recipe for that
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18:43 hmmmm i am unable to download the windows ISOs from msdn
18:43 hmmmm they keep randomly failing
18:43 hmmmm never seen such a flakey site in my life
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