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| 00:08 |
Sokomine |
where can the official android port be found again? i downloaded the last ones as debug builds from sapier |
| 00:13 |
VanessaE |
http://animalsmod.comuf.com/downloads/Minetest-release_20140518.apk |
| 00:13 |
VanessaE |
that's the latest one I could find |
| 00:20 |
Sokomine |
thank you :-) |
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diemartin |
comments? https://github.com/kaeza/minetest/commit/119589e36d44bf7555406d81262405a18a95422d |
| 00:49 |
VanessaE |
<proller> 1000 useless lines commit |
| 00:49 |
diemartin |
D: |
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cg72 |
cheapie your in the dev chat now??? |
| 01:12 |
cheapie |
I have had it set to auto-join for a while now. |
| 01:13 |
cheapie |
I got my auto-login script working, finally... |
| 01:13 |
cg72 |
im here but i dont think i help or will ever for that matter :( |
| 01:14 |
cheapie |
After I join, I can just do "/py load login.py" and HexChat logs me into all 7 of VE's servers. |
| 01:15 |
cg72 |
hey i need that script |
| 01:15 |
cheapie |
http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7503749/ |
| 01:17 |
cg72 |
what do i save it as and where? |
| 01:17 |
cheapie |
Of course, HexChat thinks I'm being /msg flooded when I do that, and disables tab auto-opening. It still logs me in, though. |
| 01:17 |
cheapie |
I saved it as login.py in my home folder. That way, I don't have to specify the path, just the name. |
| 01:18 |
cg72 |
thanks |
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ShadowNinja |
kaeza: Commented. |
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kaeza |
ShadowNinja, oops. fixed indentation |
| 02:40 |
kaeza |
re: interact_extra, I don't see it documented anywhere, shall I remove? |
| 02:43 |
kaeza |
grep says it's only used on that very line... |
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ShadowNinja |
kaeza: Yes, that's the only place I've seen it. Probably a legacy priv that wasn't completely removed. |
| 03:16 |
zat |
Any ideas on how to be able to add a lua function to the list of decorations in register_decoration? |
| 03:16 |
zat |
So some decorations can be generated by Lua code. |
| 03:18 |
zat |
I tried to do it by keeping the lua_State* and a reference to the function in DecoSimple, then I called it with the coordinates of the decoration as argument. |
| 03:18 |
zat |
...the result was crappy, partial trees and segfault after a few seconds. |
| 03:19 |
zat |
(Code available if someone wants to see) |
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kaeza |
hmm |
| 07:57 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 08:01 |
kaeza |
any specific reason for this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/privileges.lua#L10 |
| 08:02 |
VanessaE |
I'd guess just old code from when someone was still learning Lua? |
| 08:04 |
kaeza |
guess so |
| 08:04 |
* kaeza |
fixes |
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kaeza |
ShadowNinja, pull updated |
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sfan5 |
pushing http://sprunge.us/UBSC?diff in 5 mins |
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| 14:31 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, since #1308 has already 3 votes |
| 14:31 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1308 -- Item entity stacks merge on the ground, add TTL. by RealBadAngel |
| 14:32 |
RealBadAngel |
any objections or i merge it |
| 14:33 |
RealBadAngel |
but please no "why do u hate items - proller's style" |
| 14:33 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 14:39 |
proller |
increase limit |
| 14:40 |
RealBadAngel |
what limit you mean? |
| 14:41 |
RealBadAngel |
ttl? |
| 14:41 |
proller |
yes |
| 14:42 |
RealBadAngel |
no problemo, i will add if player:get_player_name()="proller" then item_entity_ttl = forever end |
| 14:43 |
RealBadAngel |
c'mon, grow up man |
| 14:43 |
Amaz |
^ +1 |
| 14:44 |
* sfan5 |
meows |
| 14:45 |
sfan5 |
any comments on https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1149 ? |
| 14:45 |
sfan5 |
~title |
| 14:45 |
ShadowBot |
Add AppData file by davidgumberg · Pull Request #1149 · minetest/minetest · GitHub |
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kaeza |
any comments on #1324 ? (ignore the second commit pls) |
| 15:04 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1324 -- Sort commands and privs alphabetically in `/help. by kaeza |
| 15:06 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, since sapier, SN and VE are for, im mergeing 1308 now |
| 15:08 |
RealBadAngel |
sorry, proller, another rebase nedeed |
| 15:11 |
sfan5 |
kaeza: looks good |
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| 16:49 |
Megaf |
That builtin_items mod is using a lot of CPU |
| 16:49 |
Megaf |
sapier; any idea how do I slow it down? |
| 16:50 |
sapier |
builtin_items? |
| 16:50 |
Megaf |
yep |
| 16:50 |
Megaf |
you said it was checking for changed every X us |
| 16:51 |
sapier |
we're talking about the changes rba did recently or something else? |
| 16:53 |
sapier |
ok that one isn't merged so no |
| 16:53 |
sapier |
can you show me what we're talking about? |
| 16:54 |
Megaf |
no idea |
| 16:55 |
sapier |
the only way to reduce mod cpu usage is increase server step |
| 16:55 |
Megaf |
anyway, this shit is again using 99.9% of a single core and lagging like hell |
| 16:55 |
sapier |
at least if the mod isn't completely broken |
| 16:55 |
sapier |
we're talking about your pi are we? |
| 16:55 |
Megaf |
no... |
| 16:55 |
sapier |
but? |
| 16:56 |
Megaf |
stop blaming my hardware |
| 16:56 |
Megaf |
minetest is terribly coded |
| 16:56 |
sapier |
nope |
| 16:56 |
Megaf |
almost no use of threads and no use of SMP at all |
| 16:56 |
sapier |
it's designed to use as much cpu as possible |
| 16:56 |
Megaf |
maybe a little on mapgen |
| 16:56 |
Megaf |
# Length of a server tick and the interval at which objects are generally updated over network |
| 16:56 |
Megaf |
dedicated_server_step = |
| 16:56 |
sapier |
the only way to reduce server thread cpu usage is increase the server step |
| 16:56 |
Megaf |
is that in seconds? |
| 16:56 |
sapier |
yes |
| 16:57 |
Megaf |
how does that works? |
| 16:57 |
VanessaE |
no, he uses an odroid. :P |
| 16:57 |
sapier |
server will sleep for that time, meaning this will be the minimum reaction time for any user interaction |
| 16:57 |
Megaf |
how can that give a better performance? |
| 16:57 |
VanessaE |
and if your server is lagging it's because either your mapgen is finally kicking in (new terrain) or you screwed up that network parameter |
| 16:58 |
sapier |
hmm I'd have to check but It could be a minimum value too thus if your cpu isn't fast enough to handle all operations within that time it's gonna run at 100% load |
| 16:59 |
Megaf |
well, changed that to 1 instead of 0.1, now ServerThread uses at most 15% of CPU |
| 16:59 |
sapier |
yes and any reaction will take at least 1s + rtt |
| 17:00 |
VanessaE |
and players' movements will be incredibly laggy too |
| 17:00 |
Megaf |
and it jumped to 99.9% when I did a simple /status |
| 17:00 |
sapier |
if your cpu can't handle the operations that need to be done per step there's no parameter you can change to fix it |
| 17:00 |
sapier |
it's like trying to win a f1 race with a lawn mower |
| 17:01 |
Megaf |
Can't you just optmize the code? |
| 17:01 |
sapier |
no |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
can't you just use a piece of hardware that's designed for server use? |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
odroid is not designed for this |
| 17:01 |
Megaf |
stop creating new features |
| 17:01 |
sapier |
no matter how much you optimize there's till a lower boundary for cpu requirement |
| 17:01 |
Megaf |
and begin correcting bugs and reducing the code |
| 17:01 |
proller |
it was already optimized in freeminer ;) |
| 17:01 |
sapier |
and effort to win each % down there increases exponentially |
| 17:01 |
Megaf |
celeron55 made minetest to run on low end hardware |
| 17:02 |
Megaf |
thats the objective of minetest |
| 17:02 |
proller |
no. |
| 17:02 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: low-end as in a low-end intel machine, |
| 17:02 |
sapier |
non x86 isn't low but ultralow hardware |
| 17:02 |
proller |
low-end core i5 |
| 17:02 |
VanessaE |
not a low-end ARM with a shitty CPU-bound network device |
| 17:02 |
Megaf |
man, you are all going backwards |
| 17:02 |
Megaf |
world is moving towars efficiency |
| 17:02 |
sapier |
you need about factor 10 mhz to achieve the speed of x86 for most operations |
| 17:02 |
Megaf |
you need a fast single core CPU |
| 17:02 |
Megaf |
common |
| 17:03 |
Megaf |
go and take some computer science class |
| 17:03 |
sapier |
no you don't megaf |
| 17:03 |
* Megaf |
attended to Computer Engineering |
| 17:03 |
sapier |
we're paralellizing minetest more and more but that can't be done in no time |
| 17:04 |
VanessaE |
and it won't fix CPU-bound hardware like your crappy network device |
| 17:04 |
sapier |
spliting mods from server step is the next step |
| 17:04 |
proller |
sapier, yea, like split connection to two threads! |
| 17:04 |
Megaf |
VanessaE; network hardware is no longer causing any problem here |
| 17:04 |
proller |
need more threads! |
| 17:04 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: then why does the CPU react so suddenly to network activity? |
| 17:05 |
Megaf |
proller; shut up, freeminer is shit too |
| 17:05 |
Megaf |
VanessaE; to load something from disk |
| 17:05 |
proller |
Megaf, then buy minecraft |
| 17:05 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: wrong. |
| 17:05 |
Megaf |
proller; I did, long ago |
| 17:05 |
proller |
buy again |
| 17:05 |
Megaf |
I have plenty of power to use minecraft |
| 17:05 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: explain the reaction to the /status command |
| 17:06 |
sapier |
the only way to have a cance to get minetest fly on devices with slow but a lot of cpu's is split it ... but that's the backside, the more cpu's the more overhead and the more to do wrong on locking |
| 17:06 |
Megaf |
I really like minetest mroe |
| 17:06 |
Megaf |
more* |
| 17:06 |
Megaf |
just really frustrated too |
| 17:06 |
sapier |
meaning we will have bugs as we do it |
| 17:06 |
sapier |
and we wont get the most optimal solution from the beginning |
| 17:07 |
Megaf |
maybe you should just start from scratch |
| 17:07 |
sapier |
I suggest trying a little bit and find a server step causing about 60% cpu load on your device, that's not perfect but may result in acceptable balance between reaction time and cpu load |
| 17:09 |
* VanessaE |
gives up |
| 17:10 |
celeron55 |
on what hardware is Megaf running the server? |
| 17:11 |
Megaf |
celeron55; 4 core ARMv7, 2,1 GHz |
| 17:11 |
Megaf |
2GB DDR2 |
| 17:11 |
Megaf |
Minetest will never use more than a single core |
| 17:11 |
Megaf |
and ServerThread will alone use 99.9% of a single core |
| 17:12 |
sfan5 |
ServerThread could be split up into serveral threads |
| 17:12 |
sfan5 |
I agree on that |
| 17:12 |
Megaf |
I can't even see what exactely is using the CPU, if its a mod, world loading, or anything |
| 17:14 |
sapier |
starting from scratch wouldn't solve the main issue |
| 17:14 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: an odroid, to be specific. |
| 17:14 |
VanessaE |
USB-interfaced network hardware |
| 17:14 |
sapier |
for what I know none of us did ever write a full parallel game so we need to learn a lot of things until we're done |
| 17:15 |
sapier |
4 core arm 2.1GHZ ... hmm 4 core 200mhz pentium |
| 17:15 |
sapier |
that's gonna be tough to optimize that far |
| 17:16 |
celeron55 |
well, really all i can say is that it isn't really designed to use multiple cores; it uses multiple cores where it reasonably can (which is basically only non-modded world generation) |
| 17:17 |
celeron55 |
sapier: each core is more like a pentium 4 |
| 17:17 |
celeron55 |
in terms of performance |
| 17:18 |
sapier |
depends on what operations you do |
| 17:18 |
celeron55 |
which is... well, not much |
| 17:18 |
celeron55 |
(a high-end pentium 4) |
| 17:19 |
sapier |
I don't have a p4 so I can't test ;-) |
| 17:19 |
celeron55 |
my server is a p4 |
| 17:19 |
celeron55 |
there is a reason why i don't want to run a minetest server on it anymore |
| 17:19 |
celeron55 |
the reason is not hard to guess |
| 17:19 |
sapier |
p4 with hyperthreading? |
| 17:20 |
celeron55 |
yes, it's quite a high end model |
| 17:21 |
sapier |
I'm not sure if we ever achieve to run a minetest server fluently on odroid but I assume spliting mod step from server step could help ... total system load might increase but (hopefully) spread to different cores |
| 17:21 |
sapier |
at least if we get lockig right |
| 17:21 |
celeron55 |
i would guess most serious servers run on single-core VPSes so i'm not sure if better multithreading should be considered a short-term priority |
| 17:21 |
celeron55 |
it's probably a terrible amount of work to get anything reasonable to be done on a new thread |
| 17:22 |
sapier |
optimizing to both single and multithreading is almost impossible |
| 17:23 |
celeron55 |
at least with what we have, yes |
| 17:23 |
sapier |
and atm I believe that future is more like multiple cheap cores instead of 1 big fast core ... but of course that's just an assumption |
| 17:23 |
celeron55 |
there are modern ways to design software so that it can scale well to any number of cores but that doesn't really apply to minetest |
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celeron55 |
nor really generally to anything |
| 17:25 |
sapier |
in theory you're right, but in practice I've never seen this to work for "small" workloads |
| 17:25 |
sapier |
and while minetest is too much for odroid it's still very very small |
| 17:25 |
celeron55 |
well, world generation is a task that is very threadable |
| 17:25 |
celeron55 |
but that's why it already is |
| 17:26 |
celeron55 |
the problem is that often lua is used instead, which isn't threaded |
| 17:26 |
sapier |
yes and spliting user interaction from mod handling could improve "felt" performance too |
| 17:26 |
celeron55 |
(...and then there's lighting) |
| 17:26 |
celeron55 |
(and certain other nonlinear things) |
| 17:27 |
sapier |
acyclic and cyclic things |
| 17:27 |
sapier |
by now both are handled in same thread |
| 17:30 |
sapier |
but prior starting another big task I'm gonna complete the ones I already started. first thing android |
| 17:32 |
proller |
you never complete your tasks |
| 17:34 |
Megaf |
sapier: VanessaE: celeron55: my minetest.conf http://paste.debian.net/101453/ |
| 17:35 |
Megaf |
I just changed it a little, lets see what happens |
| 17:36 |
Megaf |
server step is set to 0.4 |
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Megaf |
!up minetest.megaf.info 30003 |
| 17:38 |
ShadowBot |
Megaf: minetest.megaf.info port 30003 is up (620ms) |
| 17:40 |
sapier |
what cpu load do you get for 0.4? |
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Megaf |
24% with no one oline |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
inb4 "20%---no wait 99%" |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: how is the storage media interfaced? |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
PCI or similar, or USB? |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
<Megaf> server step is set to 0.4 |
| 17:42 |
Megaf |
let me check |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
I would like to see moving players |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
:phoronix rolleyes: |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
0.2 makes them sluggish already |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
(this is why it was decreased to 0.1) |
| 17:43 |
* VanessaE |
bets on USB for storage also |
| 17:43 |
Megaf |
fuck |
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Megaf |
it is nto |
| 17:44 |
Megaf |
not* |
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VanessaE |
what is it then? |
| 17:44 |
VanessaE |
something worse? :P |
| 17:44 |
Megaf |
the bus is MMC I think |
| 17:45 |
Megaf |
MMC 2 bit |
| 17:45 |
Megaf |
ops |
| 17:45 |
Megaf |
MMC 2, 4 bit |
| 17:45 |
sapier |
come on guys stop punching at megaf, hardcore tests are the most valuable ones. Even if his setup is hard to get to fly it's providing quite interesting information. Any improvement we achieve there will help everyone else too |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: and how is that MMC bus interfaces to the rest of the system? |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
sapier: not punching at megaf, punching at the device he's abusing |
| 17:46 |
Megaf |
Maybe I should just give up and do like a lot of minetest admins are doing, going to micecraft servers |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: answer the question |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
I want to know if this bus is bitbanged or properly interfaced. |
| 17:46 |
Megaf |
storate > MMC > CPU |
| 17:47 |
Megaf |
just like any SSD powered laptop |
| 17:47 |
sapier |
knowing minecraft does really handle this better would be an interesting information too |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
unless I've missed something, you can't just do MMC -> CPU. something has to be between them to handle the hardware interfacing. |
| 17:49 |
VanessaE |
(of course odroid uses a SoC device so things work differently there, but to the CPU the same rules still apply) |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
and SSDs, Megaf, are usually SATA-interfaced, which means they go through a chipset designed to interface that bus to the CPU and its bus |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
Megaf, no, you can plug a SSD in SATA, mSATA, miniPCI-E or m.2 |
| 17:50 |
Megaf |
http://dn.odroid.com/homebackup/201312201654587307.jpg |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
i.e. the so-called "chipset" |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: ninja'd :) |
| 17:50 |
Megaf |
sapier: this board can handle a full featured Debian Desktop, run libre office, firefox, HD videos and so on |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: that tells us exactly zero |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
HOW IS IT CONTROLLED? |
| 17:51 |
* sfan5 |
silently lols |
| 17:51 |
celeron55 |
i don't think the interface matters much at all; what matters is that it's a small flash card which means it's very slow |
| 17:51 |
celeron55 |
and especially slow at writing things |
| 17:52 |
sapier |
how much ram is there? |
| 17:53 |
Megaf |
celeron55: 11 MB/s right |
| 17:53 |
Megaf |
up to 30 MB/s read |
| 17:53 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: well it's precisely that, but the distinction I was trying to make was whether the CPU has to do all the bitbanging work in writing data into the card, versus at least some hardware assistance with memory mapping et al. |
| 17:53 |
sapier |
if there's enough to create a ramdisk for a small world you could try this to check if it's really an io limitation |
| 17:53 |
celeron55 |
Megaf: so 5 times slower than a HDD 8) |
| 17:53 |
celeron55 |
or 10 |
| 17:53 |
Megaf |
It's a class 10 SD card, and no, its not the SD Cards fault |
| 17:53 |
Megaf |
celeron55: do some random writes on your disk to see how fast it really is |
| 17:54 |
proller |
but freeminer works good on first, slower odroid, and acceptable on raspberry pi.. |
| 17:54 |
sapier |
megaf I don't think theres "the issue" it's a lot of things |
| 17:54 |
proller |
maybe its not hardware problem ? |
| 17:54 |
sfan5 |
proller: could you actually be helpful instead of always saying "it works better in FM" |
| 17:54 |
* Megaf |
will slowly count to ten |
| 17:54 |
proller |
sfan5, yo can look on diff ;) |
| 17:54 |
Megaf |
freeminer wont even compile here, so shut the fuck up proller |
| 17:55 |
sfan5 |
^ |
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* sfan5 |
silently laughs |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
+1 |
| 17:55 |
proller |
Megaf, read docs first |
| 17:55 |
sfan5 |
could we stop doing non-constructive things? |
| 17:55 |
proller |
i cant explain ~8 month of optimize process |
| 17:55 |
Megaf |
That would be great |
| 17:56 |
Megaf |
all you done so far is day freeminer is better and my hardware is slow |
| 17:56 |
proller |
and first steps was ignored here |
| 17:56 |
Megaf |
why dont you discuss on how you can improve minetest? |
| 17:56 |
Megaf |
did anyone at least see my configuration?? |
| 17:56 |
Megaf |
do you have suggestions? |
| 17:56 |
sfan5 |
<Megaf> did anyone at least see my configuration?? |
| 17:56 |
* sfan5 |
did |
| 17:56 |
celeron55 |
Megaf: i checked a thing from it and noted that you already had the thing |
| 17:57 |
Megaf |
celeron55: it was working fine, till I added builtin_items mod and a specific player joined |
| 17:58 |
sapier |
do you really need that mod? |
| 17:58 |
sapier |
who's author of that mod? |
| 17:58 |
* Megaf |
will optimize a little more is config and disable builtin_items |
| 17:58 |
Megaf |
sapier: its really useful, it cleans droped objects |
| 17:58 |
Megaf |
something that minetest should do on its own |
| 17:58 |
Megaf |
instead of just freezing on /clearobjects |
| 17:58 |
sapier |
maybe it's doing something wrong, can you try rba's work? |
| 17:58 |
Megaf |
again, minetest is slow by design |
| 18:00 |
proller |
and designed for singleplayer without mods |
| 18:00 |
sapier |
megaf we're working at it but we rome wasn't built on a single day too ;-) |
| 18:00 |
Megaf |
from my own experience I can guarantee that it would be easier if you start from scratch instead of redoing parts of the code |
| 18:01 |
Megaf |
First thing you need is a solid multi threaded base |
| 18:01 |
Megaf |
with a very basic game |
| 18:01 |
Megaf |
minetest 0.3 was pretty fast |
| 18:01 |
Megaf |
what changed from there to here? |
| 18:01 |
sapier |
but it's architecture was flawed in same way |
| 18:01 |
sapier |
mods |
| 18:02 |
sapier |
0.3 didn't have any mod suppor |
| 18:02 |
sapier |
t |
| 18:03 |
sapier |
and that's exactly what you mentioned "works without mod" ... for my tests minetest 0.4 without mods is as fast as 0.3 ... maybe even a little bit faster |
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| 18:08 |
celeron55 |
designed for singleplayer without mods |
| 18:08 |
Calinou |
<Megaf> minetest 0.3 was pretty fast |
| 18:08 |
Calinou |
zero modding support |
| 18:08 |
celeron55 |
^ this is very true |
| 18:08 |
Calinou |
you could play multiplayer too… |
| 18:08 |
Calinou |
there was ban support and such, you could run decent-sized server |
| 18:08 |
Calinou |
no rollback though, but rollback is currently disabled by default |
| 18:09 |
celeron55 |
or actually, yes, multiplayer indeed |
| 18:10 |
celeron55 |
0.3 still exists if someone wants to use it or fork it; it's not like it has disappeared or anything |
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* VanessaE |
mumbles something about minetest-classic |
| 18:11 |
Calinou |
minetest-reactionary |
| 18:12 |
sapier |
well lets focus on improving performance of minetest, we most likely wont get the performance of a simple game while having a complex one ... but maybe we can get close to it |
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* celeron55 |
avoids advocating specific forks |
| 18:33 |
BlockMen |
is #1315 a bug? i thought damage_per_second is thought to damage player only when he is INSIDE the node |
| 18:33 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1315 -- No damage_per_second while sneaking on top of the node |
| 18:36 |
Megaf |
ok |
| 18:36 |
Megaf |
one player (me) and max lag is 2 |
| 18:37 |
Megaf |
I thing I got a good conf now |
| 18:37 |
Megaf |
max lag 8 |
| 18:37 |
Megaf |
bag to normal =/ |
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Megaf |
Does anyone knows what this means? emergequeue_limit_total |
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RealBadAngel |
#1330 |
| 22:06 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1330 -- Allow dropping single items from stack while holding sneak key. by RealBadAngel |
| 22:06 |
RealBadAngel |
another items related tweak |
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RealBadAngel |
any comments on above? |
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