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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2013-09-20

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Time Nick Message
00:01 proller its part of engine physics
00:02 PilzAdam if I understand it correctly than the "wingsuit" allows faster movement when you fall fast?
00:03 PilzAdam so  if player:getvelocity().y > 100 then player:set_physics_override(2, nil, nil) end
00:06 proller no, it allow change falling vector in cost of speed
00:06 proller nobody will mod it
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13:49 proller 897 895 892 882 !
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14:42 lanxu Is there currently no functionality to query the server status?
14:44 lanxu Things like: number of players, server name, version etc. I only see the announcing capabilities which send the info as json to the master server.
14:48 celeron55 there is no query interface
14:49 celeron55 there once was some talk about such but it stopped altogether once the master server was taken into use
14:54 lanxu Was there any discussion about how the query interface should be implemented?
14:57 celeron55 yes
14:57 celeron55 i don't remember any details though
14:58 proller simplest - micro http server with json respond
14:58 lanxu I like the idea of json respond
14:59 celeron55 it was planned as a tiny alternative UDP protocol
14:59 celeron55 minetest serves no TCP at all currently so TCP is kind of not preferred
14:59 proller udp cannot be queryed from browser
15:00 lanxu celeron55: that's why you used curl I guess? :)
15:00 celeron55 umm?
15:00 celeron55 i have done zero decisions on the current masterserver thing
15:00 lanxu for the server announce I mean
15:02 celeron55 if a TCP interface would be added, that should be simultaneously considered as the first steps to converting the whole protocol to TCP
15:02 lanxu there should be both
15:02 lanxu tcp and udp
15:03 celeron55 or at least the parts of the protocol that require reliable transfer; there is very little in minetest that actually benefits at all from UDP
15:03 celeron55 basically object position updates, and nothing else
15:03 celeron55 and there's a whole lot of "something else" 8)
15:04 lanxu I agree
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15:10 proller lanxu, you can download http://servers.minetest.net/list and find your server
15:11 lanxu proller: true, but I am still unable to fetch the client list.
15:12 proller it can be added if somebody agreed with it
15:13 lanxu This is not so big problem. I can always make my own "masterserver" and send json there if I don't want to announce it publicly.
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15:17 proller i want add map age, maybe clients list, and count something like popularity on server (average number of players), and count totals (servers, players, top)
15:17 lanxu hmm. adding the client list only requires one change to the sendAnnounce method + forming the json entry.
15:17 proller yes
15:20 lanxu ping is quite important also
15:24 proller celeron55, nobody want to approve it - https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/892/files
15:25 PilzAdam lanxu, the ping from server to the masterserver is not very useful for players
15:26 proller it completes core melt-freeze support and makes it fully adjustable
15:27 proller PilzAdam, it theory high-loaded servers can produce higher ping
15:27 proller but need to optimize networking to reach it
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15:49 lanxu PilzAdam: You are correct about the ping of course. That's why the query support would be so sweet.
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17:01 BlockMen are there 2 dev who would be ok with merging #930?
17:03 proller you must wait 2 months
17:03 proller but i agree
17:05 BlockMen wut? why wait 2 month?
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17:33 proller шit must be aged
17:33 BlockMen pfff...
17:39 kahrl why is the image always aligned at the top left?
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17:41 BlockMen oh, forgot to add pos when changed it yesterday
17:44 BlockMen done
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17:53 kahrl still ignores alignment and offset
17:53 kahrl how about this? https://gist.github.com/kahrl/6641243
17:57 BlockMen kahrl, imo there was no need for using it, thats why. but yeah, looks better
17:57 BlockMen would you change when merging or should i change it?
17:58 kahrl it should accept all the usual parameters so that there are no undocumented surprises
17:58 kahrl if someone immediately agrees to merging my version I'll do it
17:58 kahrl otherwise change the pull request
17:59 BlockMen ^ PilzAdam?
18:00 BlockMen ^ or sfan5, hmmmm, thexyz? :D
18:00 sfan5 kahrl: seems fine, you can merge it
18:05 kahrl done
18:07 BlockMen thanks!
18:50 hmmmm i'm moving away for my job, so i'll be out of minetest stuff for about 3-4 days
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21:47 proller hmmmm, now heat-humidity updated not everywhere, lot of areas with 0/0
21:53 proller most have 0/0
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