Time  Nick      Message
00:01 proller   its part of engine physics
00:02 PilzAdam  if I understand it correctly than the "wingsuit" allows faster movement when you fall fast?
00:03 PilzAdam  so  if player:getvelocity().y > 100 then player:set_physics_override(2, nil, nil) end
00:06 proller   no, it allow change falling vector in cost of speed
00:06 proller   nobody will mod it
13:49 proller   897 895 892 882 !
14:42 lanxu     Is there currently no functionality to query the server status?
14:44 lanxu     Things like: number of players, server name, version etc. I only see the announcing capabilities which send the info as json to the master server.
14:48 celeron55 there is no query interface
14:49 celeron55 there once was some talk about such but it stopped altogether once the master server was taken into use
14:54 lanxu     Was there any discussion about how the query interface should be implemented?
14:57 celeron55 yes
14:57 celeron55 i don't remember any details though
14:58 proller   simplest - micro http server with json respond
14:58 lanxu     I like the idea of json respond
14:59 celeron55 it was planned as a tiny alternative UDP protocol
14:59 celeron55 minetest serves no TCP at all currently so TCP is kind of not preferred
14:59 proller   udp cannot be queryed from browser
15:00 lanxu     celeron55: that's why you used curl I guess? :)
15:00 celeron55 umm?
15:00 celeron55 i have done zero decisions on the current masterserver thing
15:00 lanxu     for the server announce I mean
15:02 celeron55 if a TCP interface would be added, that should be simultaneously considered as the first steps to converting the whole protocol to TCP
15:02 lanxu     there should be both
15:02 lanxu     tcp and udp
15:03 celeron55 or at least the parts of the protocol that require reliable transfer; there is very little in minetest that actually benefits at all from UDP
15:03 celeron55 basically object position updates, and nothing else
15:03 celeron55 and there's a whole lot of "something else" 8)
15:04 lanxu     I agree
15:10 proller   lanxu, you can download http://servers.minetest.net/list and find your server
15:11 lanxu     proller: true, but I am still unable to fetch the client list.
15:12 proller   it can be added if somebody agreed with it
15:13 lanxu     This is not so big problem. I can always make my own "masterserver" and send json there if I don't want to announce it publicly.
15:17 proller   i want add map age, maybe clients list, and count something like popularity on server (average number of players), and count totals (servers, players, top)
15:17 lanxu     hmm. adding the client list only requires one change to the sendAnnounce method + forming the json entry.
15:17 proller   yes
15:20 lanxu     ping is quite important also
15:24 proller   celeron55, nobody want to approve it - https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/892/files
15:25 PilzAdam  lanxu, the ping from server to the masterserver is not very useful for players
15:26 proller   it completes core melt-freeze support and makes it fully adjustable
15:27 proller   PilzAdam, it theory high-loaded servers can produce higher ping
15:27 proller   but need to optimize networking to reach it
15:49 lanxu     PilzAdam: You are correct about the ping of course. That's why the query support would be so sweet.
17:01 BlockMen  are there 2 dev who would be ok with merging #930?
17:03 proller   you must wait 2 months
17:03 proller   but i agree
17:05 BlockMen  wut? why wait 2 month?
17:33 proller   шit must be aged
17:33 BlockMen  pfff...
17:39 kahrl     why is the image always aligned at the top left?
17:41 BlockMen  oh, forgot to add pos when changed it yesterday
17:44 BlockMen  done
17:53 kahrl     still ignores alignment and offset
17:53 kahrl     how about this? https://gist.github.com/kahrl/6641243
17:57 BlockMen  kahrl, imo there was no need for using it, thats why. but yeah, looks better
17:57 BlockMen  would you change when merging or should i change it?
17:58 kahrl     it should accept all the usual parameters so that there are no undocumented surprises
17:58 kahrl     if someone immediately agrees to merging my version I'll do it
17:58 kahrl     otherwise change the pull request
17:59 BlockMen  ^ PilzAdam?
18:00 BlockMen  ^ or sfan5, hmmmm, thexyz? :D
18:00 sfan5     kahrl: seems fine, you can merge it
18:05 kahrl     done
18:07 BlockMen  thanks!
18:50 hmmmm     i'm moving away for my job, so i'll be out of minetest stuff for about 3-4 days
21:47 proller   hmmmm, now heat-humidity updated not everywhere, lot of areas with 0/0
21:53 proller   most have 0/0