| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 03:25 |
cornernote |
new modding api, to be released monday - http://cornernote.net/minetest/api |
| 03:25 |
cornernote |
user/pass = demo/demo |
| 03:26 |
cornernote |
leave any feedback as comments on the site, i'll go through all comments before release |
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| 07:37 |
celeron55 |
cornernote_: the quality seems somewhat sloppy for some parts, but i guess the websites could link to there too |
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| 08:26 |
cornernote |
do you mean the content, or the system itself ? |
| 08:27 |
cornernote |
its still alpha, the user registration system doesnt work, but its really close |
| 08:27 |
cornernote |
the content is just copied from the current api txt file |
| 08:27 |
cornernote |
i tweaked it a little, and doc'd all the function params/returns |
| 08:28 |
cornernote |
but still need to do examples for most functions |
| 08:29 |
cornernote |
anything that is not upto standard, i'm happy to improve... and the community as a whole is keen to colaborate on the documentation |
| 08:29 |
celeron55 |
if it's still work-in-progress, then it's fine |
| 08:35 |
cornernote |
i have a request to tweak how the forums work |
| 08:35 |
cornernote |
if i apply a patch, can i get you to apply it to the forums ? |
| 08:36 |
cornernote |
its regarding this - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3272 |
| 08:36 |
cornernote |
If I wrap minetest://example.com:30000 in [ url ] tags, it becomes a link to minetest//example.com:30000 (drops the 1st colan) |
| 08:37 |
celeron55 |
wtf |
| 08:38 |
cornernote |
? |
| 08:38 |
celeron55 |
quickly thinking, i suppose it checks for a number of protocols that it knows and if it isn't one, it'll break |
| 08:39 |
celeron55 |
that's just plain stupid... |
| 08:39 |
cornernote |
its kind of a crap forum, but does the job |
| 08:39 |
celeron55 |
not anything new from punbb 1.3 though 8) it has bugs but works |
| 08:39 |
cornernote |
disapointing, but not unexpected |
| 08:41 |
cornernote |
so if i fix it, is someone around who can apply such fixes ? |
| 08:42 |
cornernote |
not right this moment, but in general |
| 08:42 |
cornernote |
i have had the idea to fix it, but didnt think anyone could apply the patch, so never bothered |
| 08:42 |
celeron55 |
yeah, i can patch it; in fact i just started grepping for "http" in there... |
| 08:43 |
celeron55 |
there are a good bunch of fixes already applied to it anyway |
| 08:43 |
cornernote |
would be great if you could give access to someone else who you trust |
| 08:43 |
cornernote |
i dont know who, i havent been here long enough to see who you inteact with and trust most |
| 08:44 |
cornernote |
but just so there is a 2IC that can do things if needed |
| 08:45 |
cornernote |
i dont think that bug is because of a protocol |
| 08:45 |
cornernote |
i think its because it does some junk like explode(':',$url) |
| 08:46 |
cornernote |
but not sure, havent seen the source yet |
| 08:46 |
celeron55 |
i can't find any relevant mention of 'http' or "http" in there... there's only one 'http' and it can't be related |
| 08:46 |
celeron55 |
how can it break one link but not other then... |
| 08:46 |
cornernote |
try this link |
| 08:46 |
celeron55 |
hmm, maybe it's length dependent |
| 08:46 |
cornernote |
http://example.com:30000 |
| 08:47 |
cornernote |
i think its cos it has 2 colans |
| 08:47 |
celeron55 |
ah |
| 08:47 |
cornernote |
it doesnt expect it, and it screws up when it re-joins it |
| 08:47 |
celeron55 |
so http://foo.com:80 won't work either? |
| 08:47 |
cornernote |
i assume |
| 08:47 |
cornernote |
sec, checking |
| 08:47 |
celeron55 |
now i need to find the link maker somewhere in there... |
| 08:48 |
cornernote |
http://server:port works fine |
| 08:49 |
cornernote |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46478#p46478 |
| 08:49 |
cornernote |
just to make it more complicated |
| 08:49 |
celeron55 |
now that is odd |
| 08:50 |
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| 08:50 |
celeron55 |
okay, it seems to be because of the length of the protocol |
| 08:50 |
cornernote |
if we can get that working, i also setup a windows setup.exe thingy .. windows users can have minetest:// links! |
| 08:50 |
cornernote |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3283 |
| 08:50 |
cornernote |
ahh, i see |
| 08:52 |
cornernote |
if you happen to see it while in there, an auto-link would be nice ;) |
| 08:52 |
cornernote |
same as it auto-links http:// |
| 08:52 |
celeron55 |
apparently it allows 6 characters for the protocol |
| 08:52 |
celeron55 |
7 will break it |
| 08:52 |
celeron55 |
brb, grepping 6... |
| 08:53 |
celeron55 |
8D |
| 08:53 |
cornernote |
ok, so we'll just rename this project to minete |
| 08:53 |
cornernote |
;) |
| 08:53 |
cornernote |
how about |
| 08:53 |
cornernote |
mt:// |
| 08:53 |
cornernote |
? |
| 08:54 |
celeron55 |
i wonder if any other software will break with such urls |
| 08:54 |
cornernote |
then no code change is needed |
| 08:54 |
celeron55 |
for example spotify:// is 7 characters and it's used |
| 08:54 |
Calinou |
minet would be better, less confusion, less potential conflicts |
| 08:54 |
celeron55 |
so it's just a punbb bug |
| 08:54 |
cornernote |
i can change the registry.. |
| 08:55 |
cornernote |
so either mt:// or minetest:// both work |
| 08:55 |
cornernote |
then in forums we can use mt:// |
| 08:55 |
cornernote |
thought on providing it as minetest-setup.exe ? |
| 08:55 |
cornernote |
so all the registry stuff can be done |
| 08:56 |
celeron55 |
no, we will use minetest:// |
| 08:56 |
cornernote |
ok, nice |
| 08:59 |
celeron55 |
ha, "else if (!preg_match('#^([a-z0-9]{3,6})://#', $url)) // Else if it doesn't start with abcdef://, we add http://" |
| 09:00 |
celeron55 |
i'll just lengthen that to 10 or so |
| 09:00 |
cornernote |
strange they would do that |
| 09:00 |
cornernote |
so mt:// wouldnt work either |
| 09:00 |
celeron55 |
it's a piece of code that will make links without a protocol default to http:// |
| 09:00 |
celeron55 |
or part of a piece of code |
| 09:00 |
cornernote |
protocol must be 3-6 |
| 09:00 |
cornernote |
wonder why |
| 09:01 |
cornernote |
anyway |
| 09:01 |
cornernote |
so... what are your thoughts on a setup.exe ? |
| 09:01 |
celeron55 |
now it works |
| 09:01 |
cornernote |
i've done all the work for it, just needs someone to look at it and consider/do it |
| 09:04 |
celeron55 |
cmake/cpack directly supports NSIS: http://www.vtk.org/Wiki/CMake:CPackPackageGenerators#NSIS |
| 09:05 |
celeron55 |
(...on windows with other software having to be installed) |
| 09:06 |
cornernote |
ok, but that has to be done |
| 09:07 |
cornernote |
anyway.. +1 for having setup.exe, however its done |
| 09:07 |
cornernote |
and +1 for making a Games forum section too ;) |
| 09:07 |
celeron55 |
making those installers and packages and other things and making sure they work before publishing is horrible work; i'm too lazy to consistently maintain anything else than a zip |
| 09:07 |
cornernote |
ok, i agree.. just use the one that i already tested |
| 09:08 |
cornernote |
we dont HAVE to use nsis, just cos its built into cmake |
| 09:11 |
celeron55 |
why a games section? there are like... 3 publshed games in existence |
| 09:11 |
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| 09:11 |
cornernote |
7+ |
| 09:11 |
cornernote |
and how do new people find them ? |
| 09:11 |
cornernote |
there is 100s of mods |
| 09:11 |
cornernote |
7+ games |
| 09:11 |
cornernote |
no new user will find a game |
| 09:11 |
celeron55 |
well that is a point |
| 09:11 |
cornernote |
can i at least have a sticky post so ppl can find them ? |
| 09:12 |
cornernote |
u want coders, not players ? |
| 09:12 |
cornernote |
i could accept that, if you were here to code more ;) |
| 09:13 |
celeron55 |
i added "Minetest Games" |
| 09:13 |
celeron55 |
somebody should write a sticky in there explaining what they are |
| 09:13 |
cornernote |
ok, i'll write one |
| 09:13 |
cornernote |
thank you |
| 09:14 |
celeron55 |
VanessaE, sfan5: ^ sticky the result of that |
| 09:14 |
VanessaE |
gladly. |
| 09:32 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: posted and sticky'd - can we make this particular section strictly move-into only as in the case of Mod Releases? |
| 09:36 |
Jordach |
+1 |
| 09:45 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: for the sake of populating that new section, maybe it would be a good idea for you to make a post there as well just to cover minetest_game - just in case there's some random corner case where some user who lived under a rock discovered only the engine and not the minetest_game part ;-) |
| 10:17 |
celeron55 |
if you write the necessary guide sticky and move requests there, i can disable topic creation |
| 10:17 |
celeron55 |
but dunno |
| 10:17 |
celeron55 |
any more +1s for that? |
| 10:18 |
PilzAdam |
+1 |
| 10:18 |
VanessaE |
c66: such a guide has already been written and sticky'd. |
| 10:18 |
VanessaE |
c55* |
| 10:19 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, it would be easier to link it |
| 10:19 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3316 |
| 10:20 |
celeron55 |
oh, well that'll do then |
| 10:20 |
VanessaE |
(sticked? stuck?) |
| 10:20 |
celeron55 |
sticky'eisjfaposfjdsa |
| 10:21 |
celeron55 |
topic posting disabled |
| 10:21 |
VanessaE |
thanks |
| 10:22 |
PilzAdam |
you can remove [Modpack] from here: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1271 |
| 10:24 |
cornernote |
and call Repack Modpack in games |
| 10:24 |
cornernote |
i used the term Repack to not conflict |
| 10:24 |
cornernote |
what is mesecons called? |
| 10:24 |
cornernote |
a Mod, or a Modpack ? |
| 10:24 |
VanessaE |
it's referred to variously as both. |
| 10:24 |
VanessaE |
technically, it's a modpack |
| 10:25 |
cornernote |
then the term Repack should be used for games that combine multiple mods ? |
| 10:25 |
PilzAdam |
mods that have sub-mods should prefix [Mod] |
| 10:25 |
cornernote |
or Modpack ? |
| 10:25 |
VanessaE |
afaik it has modpack.txt and most of its components can be disabled by simply removing the associated folder(s) |
| 10:26 |
cornernote |
eg, im making a mod repack of mods that i run with pilzadam's minetest_game |
| 10:26 |
cornernote |
all the mods are existing [Mod]s, but i want them in a pack cos its easier for new people to experience a complete game that way |
| 10:26 |
cornernote |
its also easier for me to manage my servers, etc |
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Mikeonline |
hi |
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| 15:11 |
PilzAdam |
celeron55, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/f03edb846b12c66dce36990e3fa963b1e0f0b4c6 |
| 15:11 |
PilzAdam |
^ this fixes the shadows when removing lava |
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| 15:27 |
Calinou |
lava letting light pass through = doesn't feel right, but that would fix the bug anyway |
| 15:43 |
Jordach |
Calinou, realisticly, you would never notice :) |
| 15:59 |
Calinou |
never seen the light bug anyway, personaly |
| 15:59 |
Calinou |
personally* |
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ironzorg |
anybody speaking russian here ? |
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| 20:30 |
thexyz |
yep |
| 21:05 |
hmmmm |
it's coming out nice |
| 21:05 |
hmmmm |
http://pastebin.com/pNxTgtXy |
| 21:05 |
hmmmm |
oh shoot, i need to divide the loop count by 4 |
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