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15:52 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=40417#p40417 |
15:53 |
VanessaE |
(posted on the forums instead of github since you said the latter should be used for actual bugs, not features) |
15:54 |
VanessaE |
I will bug vicscandl or darkrose or someone else to actually code it, but I figured you should know. |
15:56 |
celeron55 |
eh lol, your list of things to cram on the GUI settings is just totally over the top |
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15:57 |
VanessaE |
well some of it could be in the config too, but at least the basics belong where the user can find them, as they are for most games where these sorts of settings matter. |
15:57 |
VanessaE |
s/too/instead/ |
15:57 |
VanessaE |
besides, it's empty space on a tab most people won't even look at. Why does it matter how much is there? |
15:58 |
celeron55 |
just find out what can be always on and then figure out what of the leftover settings need to generally be tuned to suit people (eg. something that is most lightweight, something that makes 16x look good, something that suits high-res textures) |
15:58 |
celeron55 |
VanessaE: nobody doesn't even know how to set those for different situations |
15:58 |
VanessaE |
um |
15:59 |
VanessaE |
in my tests, AF is useless without MM, but the rest has to be there. |
15:59 |
VanessaE |
for example, |
16:00 |
VanessaE |
highres objects e.g. my HDX textures look great with trilinear filtering, but that can't be reasonably applied to 16px objects supplied by some random mod the HDX pack doesn't support |
16:00 |
VanessaE |
hence the threshold slider |
16:01 |
celeron55 |
*whatever* then, just put buttons to set those three things i listed in there then |
16:01 |
celeron55 |
s/in there/over there/ |
16:01 |
VanessaE |
that's not good enough |
16:03 |
celeron55 |
s/things/reasonable combinations of settings/ |
16:03 |
VanessaE |
mmh |
16:05 |
celeron55 |
bottom left http://grandfiles.com/tutorials/epsxe/petesopengl.png |
16:06 |
VanessaE |
what? that's a terrible example |
16:06 |
VanessaE |
this isn't a slipper slope here |
16:06 |
VanessaE |
this is irrlicht settings. |
16:06 |
VanessaE |
I've used that program btw. ePSXe. And that window is overkill |
16:06 |
celeron55 |
if that is a terrible example, you are probably just not getting the point |
16:06 |
VanessaE |
no I get your point |
16:07 |
VanessaE |
you're trying to say this is what you think MT will turn into if my line of thought is followed through to its logical conclusion |
16:07 |
VanessaE |
I'm saying it won't, because you're using a slippery-slope argument. |
16:08 |
celeron55 |
oh hell, just STFU; there is no problem here |
16:08 |
* VanessaE |
grumbles |
16:08 |
VanessaE |
you have a lot of nerve, you know that? |
16:09 |
VanessaE |
THIS is precisely why you're having trouble finding new contributors. Almost every idea someone proposes that either doesn't mean much on a low-end system, or doesn't directly lead to turning MT into Call of Duty, is rejected, no matter how well thought-out. |
16:09 |
VanessaE |
there, I said it. |
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16:10 |
celeron55 |
i see no reason to argue; if somebody makes that thing, it will reveal to everyone how it works |
16:10 |
celeron55 |
and whether it works as said |
16:10 |
VanessaE |
someone already DID. |
16:10 |
VanessaE |
just not as menu items is all. |
16:10 |
celeron55 |
the only problem here seems to be the menu |
16:11 |
celeron55 |
which i am talking about, because you seem to insist |
16:12 |
VanessaE |
well of course - the average user doesn't know what a config file is, much less how to edit one. |
16:12 |
celeron55 |
i still see no other problem than you starting to jump through the roof from me trying to put up an initial guess of how it probably turns out |
16:13 |
VanessaE |
jump through the roof? jeez, butthurt much? |
16:14 |
celeron55 |
you're the one going nuts here |
16:14 |
celeron55 |
i've been perfectly calm here for all this time |
16:14 |
VanessaE |
I'm proposing adding 6 options to a menu that's sat nearly empty for years now (or however long that menu has existed anyway). |
16:14 |
VanessaE |
I'm perfectly calm too, I just type more than you is all. |
16:14 |
VanessaE |
old habit. |
16:15 |
celeron55 |
yes, i and my guess is it won't work |
16:15 |
celeron55 |
-i |
16:16 |
celeron55 |
now, if you will, i just might continue with something productive rather than arguing about things that will find out their ways by anyone who happens to code them |
16:16 |
VanessaE |
the problem is if you say it won't work, it won't ever make it into the mainstream code. |
16:16 |
celeron55 |
it doesn't work like that |
16:17 |
celeron55 |
what i initially say and what i do are independent things; i've acted both ways based on what i have seen |
16:18 |
VanessaE |
says the guy who just commented yesterday about still digging through 6-month-old contributions from Kahrl. :-) |
16:19 |
VanessaE |
I've said my peace. Now let's see what happens when someone codes it. |
16:19 |
celeron55 |
i don't get your point of that line |
16:19 |
celeron55 |
you're just pissing me off for no good reason; even if i wanted to turn "better", i couldn't because everybody expect me not to and talk to me like it |
16:21 |
VanessaE |
which line, the bit about Kahrl? that was supposed to be a joke. |
18:24 |
hmmmm |
I think he wants a single, coherent direction for minetest to travel in, not everybody's ideas jumbled together. |
18:24 |
hmmmm |
a lot of things do get shot down though which i understand is very frusturating. hey look, if you have a better idea, make your own fork, i guess. you will have your following |
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