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LunaVorax |
hello |
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rubdos |
Hi there :-) |
19:02 |
VanessaE |
hi |
19:07 |
rubdos |
Just want to have a look in here :-) Just tested out minetest-c55, looks promising |
19:10 |
VanessaE |
well we like it :-) |
19:10 |
rubdos |
I guess there already were some creazy people who asked you if it was possible to have a native C/C++ minecraft frontend? |
19:10 |
rubdos |
I like minecraft VERY much, but the front end is crap :D |
19:12 |
VanessaE |
well this is not a minecraft front end at all |
19:12 |
VanessaE |
it's an entire game. that said I guess celeron55 wanted to make something better, open source. He succeeded :-) |
19:14 |
rubdos |
VanessaE: He surely did, though I'm a redstone guy. Didn't have a deep look, but I was amazed by the framerate xD (Is there a redstone equivalent in Minetest?) |
19:15 |
VanessaE |
mesecons. |
19:15 |
VanessaE |
http://mesecons.net23.net/ |
19:16 |
VanessaE |
incorporates pretty much all of what redstone can do, though the exact selection of devices is different. |
19:16 |
VanessaE |
(we don't, for example, need repeaters because mesecons don't lose signal strength over distance |
19:32 |
rubdos |
VanessaE: That's COOL |
19:33 |
rubdos |
Anyone has already build a CPU on that? |
19:33 |
rubdos |
Because that makes sense in Minetest. I mean, building a cpu in minecraft takes 6 gigs of ram on my Archlinux box |
19:33 |
rubdos |
minetest uses WAAAY less :D |
19:34 |
VanessaE |
not a CPU yet, but the various components have been built by different people |
19:35 |
VanessaE |
I made the 8-bit adder pictured on that site, another person did a binary 4-to-16 decoder (which he uses to run a simulated one-digit LCD display) |
19:35 |
VanessaE |
One person is doing a tic-tac-toe game |
19:39 |
rubdos |
Very cool. I guess I can have higher clock speeds in minetest? My current minecraft project is a full computer, with display and everything :P |
19:39 |
rubdos |
(Is there 'worldedit' alike in minetest?) |
19:40 |
VanessaE |
indeed there is |
19:40 |
VanessaE |
I'm not sure what kind of clock speed mesecons can actually pass, I've never tested the limit |
19:41 |
VanessaE |
minetest has a worldedit mod, but I don't know how it compares to minecraft |
19:41 |
VanessaE |
(I've never played MC) |
19:43 |
NakedFury |
compared to mc lacking |
19:46 |
rubdos |
Okay, but can I stack, copy and paste? Because that's all what I use it for :p |
19:46 |
rubdos |
(copy my ram!) |
19:46 |
rubdos |
BTW, I've got 1 kb ram on minecraft :3 |
19:48 |
VanessaE |
yes, you can do all those things |
19:49 |
VanessaE |
rubdos: the Microcontroller (µC for short) in mesecons has 256 bits of memory in it; a bunch of those ganged together will beat out that 1kb of RAM :-) |
19:50 |
rubdos |
Mmm, but microcontrollers are lame :3 I've got plenty of those in real life (PIC's, no AVR :( ). I'd like to dig deeper :-) |
19:51 |
VanessaE |
lame? :( |
19:51 |
VanessaE |
they were added because we thought the old way of making gates with torches et.al was lame :-) |
19:53 |
rubdos |
VanessaE: That's also true, but it's just cool to have every bit in full sight :p |
19:53 |
rubdos |
BTW, I'm having trouble connecting to my test minetesttest thingy test server ;) |
19:53 |
rubdos |
It stays on 'connecting to server' |
19:54 |
rubdos |
And on server terminal: 21:53:56: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player |
19:54 |
VanessaE |
rubdos: µC's can also be used as individual gates |
19:54 |
VanessaE |
that fail-to-emerge is a known bug, but I don't know the solution |
19:55 |
rubdos |
VanessaE: Cool thing about µC is that the memory cells are actually STABLE xD |
19:55 |
rubdos |
At my superhight clock frequency of 0.001Hz (test freq) on minecraft, they sometimes failed -_- |
19:55 |
VanessaE |
heh |
19:55 |
VanessaE |
I think µC's are limited to 30 Hz, otherwise they "overheat" |
19:55 |
VanessaE |
or rather, |
19:56 |
VanessaE |
they're limited to 30 internal operations/second |
19:56 |
VanessaE |
whether they can pass higher frequencies, I'm not sure - never tried |
19:56 |
rubdos |
That's rather quick :D |
19:56 |
rubdos |
Anyway, I'm off. Thanks for the chat! See you later! |
19:56 |
VanessaE |
ciao |
19:56 |
VanessaE |
oh, btw |
19:57 |
VanessaE |
use #minetest in the future - there's a lot more activity there |
19:57 |
VanessaE |
this channel's mostly dead |
19:59 |
rubdos |
VanessaE: Yeh, I'm in the dev's channel right? |
19:59 |
rubdos |
Bye! |
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LunaVorax |
evening |
23:02 |
PilzAdam |
hi |
23:12 |
Phitherek_ |
VanessaE: My friend used it that also played MC, said that it is the same or nearly the same |
23:13 |
Phitherek_ |
ah, sorry |
23:13 |
Phitherek_ |
didn' t look at the hours -_- |
23:16 |
VanessaE |
used what, mesecons? |
23:31 |
Phitherek_ |
no, no, I mean in the IRC log, I have scrolled up and was not up to latest messages and I answered to something 4 hours old |
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VanessaE |
oh ok |