Time  Nick       Message
10:09 LunaVorax  hello
10:10 PilzAdam   hi
11:19 * PilzAdam is away: Busy
11:33 * PilzAdam is back (gone 00:14:09)
19:01 rubdos     Hi there :-)
19:02 VanessaE   hi
19:07 rubdos     Just want to have a look in here :-) Just tested out minetest-c55, looks promising
19:10 VanessaE   well we like it :-)
19:10 rubdos     I guess there already were some creazy people who asked you if it was possible to have a native C/C++ minecraft frontend?
19:10 rubdos     I like minecraft VERY much, but the front end is crap :D
19:12 VanessaE   well this is not a minecraft front end at all
19:12 VanessaE   it's an entire game.  that said I guess celeron55 wanted to make something better, open source.  He succeeded :-)
19:14 rubdos     VanessaE: He surely did, though I'm a redstone guy. Didn't have a deep look, but I was amazed by the framerate xD (Is there a redstone equivalent in Minetest?)
19:15 VanessaE   mesecons.
19:15 VanessaE   http://mesecons.net23.net/
19:16 VanessaE   incorporates pretty much all of what redstone can do, though the exact selection of devices is different.
19:16 VanessaE   (we don't, for example, need repeaters because mesecons don't lose signal strength over distance
19:32 rubdos     VanessaE: That's COOL
19:33 rubdos     Anyone has already build a CPU on that?
19:33 rubdos     Because that makes sense in Minetest. I mean, building a cpu in minecraft takes 6 gigs of ram on my Archlinux box
19:33 rubdos     minetest uses WAAAY less :D
19:34 VanessaE   not a CPU yet, but the various components have been built by different people
19:35 VanessaE   I made the 8-bit adder pictured on that site, another person did a binary 4-to-16 decoder (which he uses to run a simulated one-digit LCD display)
19:35 VanessaE   One person is doing a tic-tac-toe game
19:39 rubdos     Very cool. I guess I can have higher clock speeds in minetest? My current minecraft project is a full computer, with display and everything :P
19:39 rubdos     (Is there 'worldedit' alike in minetest?)
19:40 VanessaE   indeed there is
19:40 VanessaE   I'm not sure what kind of clock speed mesecons can actually pass, I've never tested the limit
19:41 VanessaE   minetest has a worldedit mod, but I don't know how it compares to minecraft
19:41 VanessaE   (I've never played MC)
19:43 NakedFury  compared to mc lacking
19:46 rubdos     Okay, but can I stack, copy and paste? Because that's all what I use it for :p
19:46 rubdos     (copy my ram!)
19:46 rubdos     BTW, I've got 1 kb ram on minecraft :3
19:48 VanessaE   yes, you can do all those things
19:49 VanessaE   rubdos: the Microcontroller (µC for short) in mesecons has 256 bits of memory in it; a bunch of those ganged together will beat out that 1kb of RAM :-)
19:50 rubdos     Mmm, but microcontrollers are lame :3 I've got plenty of those in real life (PIC's, no AVR :( ). I'd like to dig deeper :-)
19:51 VanessaE   lame? :(
19:51 VanessaE   they were added because we thought the old way of making gates with torches et.al was lame :-)
19:53 rubdos     VanessaE: That's also true, but it's just cool to have every bit in full sight :p
19:53 rubdos     BTW, I'm having trouble connecting to my test minetesttest thingy test server ;)
19:53 rubdos     It stays on 'connecting to server'
19:54 rubdos     And on server terminal: 21:53:56: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player
19:54 VanessaE   rubdos: µC's can also be used as individual gates
19:54 VanessaE   that fail-to-emerge is a known bug, but I don't know the solution
19:55 rubdos     VanessaE: Cool thing about µC is that the memory cells are actually STABLE xD
19:55 rubdos     At my superhight clock frequency of 0.001Hz (test freq) on minecraft, they sometimes failed -_-
19:55 VanessaE   heh
19:55 VanessaE   I think µC's are limited to 30 Hz, otherwise they "overheat"
19:55 VanessaE   or rather,
19:56 VanessaE   they're limited to 30 internal operations/second
19:56 VanessaE   whether they can pass higher frequencies, I'm not sure - never tried
19:56 rubdos     That's rather quick :D
19:56 rubdos     Anyway, I'm off. Thanks for the chat! See you later!
19:56 VanessaE   ciao
19:56 VanessaE   oh, btw
19:57 VanessaE   use #minetest in the future - there's a lot more activity there
19:57 VanessaE   this channel's mostly dead
19:59 rubdos     VanessaE: Yeh, I'm in the dev's channel right?
19:59 rubdos     Bye!
23:02 LunaVorax  evening
23:02 PilzAdam   hi
23:12 Phitherek_ VanessaE: My friend used it that also played MC, said that it is the same or nearly the same
23:13 Phitherek_ ah, sorry
23:13 Phitherek_ didn' t look at the hours -_-
23:16 VanessaE   used what, mesecons?
23:31 Phitherek_ no, no, I mean in the IRC log, I have scrolled up and was not up to latest messages and I answered to something 4 hours old
23:37 VanessaE   oh ok