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jin_xi |
still stuck at the same question... |
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VanessaE |
question? |
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jin_xi |
how to save the result of add_entity to a nodes metadata... |
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jin_xi |
am trying to finish up the painting mod to a releasable state despite the 49 objects limit (one pic has 64 pixels) |
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jin_xi |
and knowing how to save those entities is the last missing piece |
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| 15:07 |
spectator |
hello> |
| 15:08 |
spectator |
are there any logs for other minetest channels like at http://logs.2pktfkt.de/minetest-delta/? |
| 15:09 |
darkrose |
like celeron said, you failed to read the topic, therefore, for you, there are none |
| 15:10 |
spectator |
which topic?? |
| 15:10 |
brobostigon |
channel topic. |
| 15:10 |
spectator |
where? |
| 15:10 |
brobostigon |
try /topic |
| 15:10 |
spectator |
"Insufficient arguments for command." |
| 15:11 |
brobostigon |
/topic |
| 15:11 |
SmugLeaf |
10:36:45 -!- Topic for #minetest-delta: minetest-delta – Minetest developers | Logs: http://2pktfkt.de/irc/minetest-delta/ | http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=patchsets | http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=dev_index | Elite development channel: #minetest-dev |
| 15:12 |
spectator |
so there are logs for the delta only? |
| 15:12 |
spectator |
and also this channel is no longer serious, right? |
| 15:12 |
SmugLeaf |
this channel is always serious |
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| 15:13 |
darkrose |
this channel is for dev + chatter vaguely related to dev |
| 15:22 |
Calinou |
(it is not for dating. unlike #minetest-dev] |
| 15:22 |
Calinou |
#feelfreetoquote,sig,orupvote. |
| 15:23 |
* jordach |
high fives Calinou |
| 15:23 |
* Calinou |
low fours jordach |
| 15:23 |
jordach |
HA |
| 15:23 |
Calinou |
AH |
| 15:24 |
jordach |
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AyCJvzqhFK4/TUjsZ3MxZZI/AAAAAAAABNI/mLHcacTy8K8/s1600/cool-story-bro.gif |
| 15:25 |
spectator |
i guess i understand why everyone here is so angre. |
| 15:28 |
spectator |
it is also interesting that not much was done in a last couple of weeks, but still, almost everyone (especially c55) here are cool kids |
| 15:28 |
spectator |
i dont like it. |
| 15:29 |
spectator |
for some reason there is a "bad" atmosphere in minetest community |
| 15:29 |
spectator |
maybe it is because c55 behaves like he do and everyone else follow him |
| 15:30 |
spectator |
that just sucks |
| 15:31 |
sfan5 |
afk |
| 15:31 |
spectator |
these stupid picture-jokes are stupid too, by the way |
| 15:32 |
jordach |
spectator, its aimed at Calinou he WILL usually do this |
| 15:32 |
jordach |
and frankly, we do help people |
| 15:32 |
jordach |
just when someones away |
| 15:32 |
spectator |
it does not matter who does this |
| 15:33 |
jordach |
btw |
| 15:33 |
jordach |
celeron55 can be on his man periods |
| 15:33 |
jordach |
(most of the time) |
| 15:34 |
jordach |
<Calinou> celeron55, why did you create a new channel btw? two were enough |
| 15:34 |
jordach |
<jordach> 20110922_3 |
| 15:34 |
jordach |
* celeron55 has kicked Calinou from #minetest-dev (for this) |
| 15:34 |
jordach |
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| 15:34 |
jordach |
<Calinou> \o/ a kick |
| 15:34 |
jordach |
* celeron55 has kicked Calinou from #minetest-dev (Calinou) |
| 15:34 |
jordach |
* celeron55 sets ban on *!*Calinouunaffiliated/calinou |
| 15:34 |
Calinou |
lol @ kick THEN ban |
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| 15:34 |
Calinou |
usually it's ban THEN kick |
| 15:34 |
jordach |
true |
| 15:34 |
Calinou |
spectator, the minetest forum has lots of kids yeah |
| 15:35 |
spectator |
yeah, i know, that is why i'm not visiting it |
| 15:35 |
jordach |
spectator, at times, #minetest has them too |
| 15:35 |
jordach |
but on rare occaisions |
| 15:35 |
jordach |
(they think irc works like msn) |
| 15:35 |
spectator |
it is because irc is not as popular as forums |
| 15:36 |
jordach |
true, but the fact is they cant grasp another form of communication besides web pages |
| 15:36 |
jordach |
and msn, skype |
| 15:37 |
spectator |
they only use things which are popular in the group of other kids |
| 15:37 |
jordach |
exactly |
| 15:37 |
jordach |
thats why i left the forums |
| 15:37 |
uonilaC |
one sec, trying something |
| 15:37 |
uonilaC |
seeing the hostmask, I might still join |
| 15:37 |
uonilaC |
nope. |
| 15:38 |
jordach |
you could have tried changing you calinouunafflilliated/calinou |
| 15:38 |
jordach |
use a REAL IP |
| 15:38 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 15:38 |
* Calinou |
likes his troll cloak! |
| 15:38 |
jordach |
im too lazy to make on |
| 15:38 |
jordach |
one* |
| 15:39 |
jordach |
Calinou puts his "troll" in a box! |
| 15:39 |
brobostigon |
reverse dns, and my own domain, to the rescue. |
| 15:39 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 15:39 |
jordach |
yep |
| 15:39 |
jordach |
UK FTW |
| 15:40 |
Calinou |
france FTL |
| 15:40 |
jordach |
hold on |
| 15:40 |
jordach |
lemme see my 1000 things britain did before france |
| 15:40 |
jordach |
the guillotine being one of them |
| 15:40 |
spectator |
just thinking... c55 spends a lot of time organizing the code and architecture. is that really necessary? especially slow lua mods? |
| 15:41 |
spectator |
because it is not necessary to separate things that way |
| 15:41 |
jordach |
i know, mesecons are horrible because of this problem |
| 15:41 |
spectator |
like MT = C++, 3rd party mods = Lua ONLY!!11 |
| 15:42 |
spectator |
maybe the game should be made like other ones - few subsystems (renderer, server, etc.) connected together |
| 15:42 |
spectator |
and the most important parts should be implemented in C++ in these subsystems |
| 15:43 |
spectator |
example, mesecons could go into server subsystem, 3d player - into render subsys. |
| 15:44 |
spectator |
development would go faster and also the game would work faster (Lua is much slower than native code) |
| 15:44 |
ironzorg |
spectator: what you said |
| 15:44 |
ironzorg |
I told c55 a few years ago |
| 15:44 |
ironzorg |
he just told me I was an idiot |
| 15:45 |
ironzorg |
my advice would be: if you think it's best for the engine, fork the project and DIY |
| 15:45 |
ironzorg |
because he won't listen to you |
| 15:46 |
jordach |
^ and i thought MS sat on their laurels |
| 15:47 |
spectator |
i think it would be too hard to fork this project because his code is actually not very good |
| 15:47 |
jordach |
ironzorg, your flowers mod could do with a ton of updates |
| 15:47 |
jordach |
spectator, im working on some fork |
| 15:47 |
jordach |
that gains, infinite maps, mobs, improved code |
| 15:47 |
spectator |
can i see it? or it is not publicly available yet? |
| 15:47 |
jordach |
im tired of 31000 |
| 15:47 |
jordach |
spectator, it is |
| 15:48 |
jordach |
HOWEVER |
| 15:48 |
jordach |
this will be 0.2 |
| 15:48 |
ironzorg |
jordach: I don't have time for personnal project these days, you do it |
| 15:48 |
ironzorg |
also I'm kind of bored of lua |
| 15:48 |
ironzorg |
and I've only used it for a few days |
| 15:48 |
jordach |
https://bitbucket.org/minetestclassicteam/minetest-classic |
| 15:49 |
jordach |
current status |
| 15:49 |
ironzorg |
lol. |
| 15:51 |
spectator |
are there compiled binaries for win32? just dont want to spend a couple of hours for compilation. |
| 15:52 |
jordach |
no |
| 15:53 |
spectator |
it is not compatible with m$ windows? |
| 15:53 |
jordach |
it is |
| 15:53 |
jordach |
but cross-compiling is an ass |
| 15:53 |
spectator |
yeah that is true |
| 15:54 |
brobostigon |
i thought there were binaries for windows on github . |
| 15:54 |
jordach |
my fork he means |
| 15:54 |
brobostigon |
ah. |
| 15:55 |
spectator |
compiling opensource projects on win32 is pain in ass too :) the easiest one was reactos because it contained build environment with it |
| 15:56 |
spectator |
it is just boring to collect libraries from all over the internet |
| 15:56 |
spectator |
and complining them too |
| 15:57 |
jordach |
ikr |
| 15:57 |
spectator |
i will try to compile your project though |
| 15:57 |
jordach |
linux ftw |
| 15:57 |
jordach |
spectator, id wait some time |
| 15:57 |
jordach |
its still no where near done |
| 15:57 |
spectator |
oh |
| 15:57 |
spectator |
ok |
| 16:04 |
Calinou |
<spectator> i will try to compile your project though |
| 16:04 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 16:04 |
Calinou |
<spectator> compiling opensource projects on win32 is pain in ass too :) the easiest one was reactos because it contained build environment with it |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
+1 because FOSS zealots |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
<spectator> it is not compatible with m$ windows? |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
lol m$ |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
<brobostigon> i thought there were binaries for windows on github . |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
never, because "proper" coders (namely git coders) say "lol bins sux" |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
"better use trash cans" |
| 16:06 |
Anchakor |
binaries don't belong into source code repository |
| 16:08 |
spectator |
actually binaries must be never saved in the repo |
| 16:08 |
spectator |
but they can be added as downloads |
| 16:09 |
spectator |
it is because version control systems work best with text files |
| 16:10 |
spectator |
but you will not break it if you will put a binary file in it (like image, compressed archive or even executable) |
| 16:10 |
spectator |
it just will eat a lot of space and useful things like diff will not work |
| 16:12 |
spectator |
that is why there is a download section which is not covered by git on a github |
| 16:12 |
Anchakor |
yeah I meant binaries like the produced executable |
| 16:12 |
spectator |
yep, they should be uploaded separately from the repo |
| 16:12 |
brobostigon |
Calinou: https://github.com/downloads/celeron55/minetest/minetest-0.4.dev-20120606-win32.zip well there, |
| 16:12 |
Anchakor |
source should be just source file - without the products like generated documentation, executable... |
| 16:12 |
Calinou |
yes, it's a download not a tag |
| 16:13 |
Calinou |
<Anchakor> binaries don't belong into source code repository |
| 16:13 |
Calinou |
> what the 56k fanboy says |
| 16:13 |
brobostigon |
Calinou: thats what i was refferring to, a download. |
| 16:14 |
Anchakor |
wtf 56k |
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