Time Nick Message 06:16 jin_xi still stuck at the same question... 06:20 VanessaE question? 06:24 jin_xi how to save the result of add_entity to a nodes metadata... 06:24 jin_xi am trying to finish up the painting mod to a releasable state despite the 49 objects limit (one pic has 64 pixels) 06:25 jin_xi and knowing how to save those entities is the last missing piece 15:07 spectator hello> 15:08 spectator are there any logs for other minetest channels like at http://logs.2pktfkt.de/minetest-delta/? 15:09 darkrose like celeron said, you failed to read the topic, therefore, for you, there are none 15:10 spectator which topic?? 15:10 brobostigon channel topic. 15:10 spectator where? 15:10 brobostigon try /topic 15:10 spectator "Insufficient arguments for command." 15:11 brobostigon /topic 15:11 SmugLeaf 10:36:45 -!- Topic for #minetest-delta: minetest-delta – Minetest developers | Logs: http://2pktfkt.de/irc/minetest-delta/ | http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=patchsets | http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=dev_index | Elite development channel: #minetest-dev 15:12 spectator so there are logs for the delta only? 15:12 spectator and also this channel is no longer serious, right? 15:12 SmugLeaf this channel is always serious 15:13 darkrose this channel is for dev + chatter vaguely related to dev 15:22 Calinou (it is not for dating. unlike #minetest-dev] 15:22 Calinou #feelfreetoquote,sig,orupvote. 15:23 * jordach high fives Calinou 15:23 * Calinou low fours jordach 15:23 jordach HA 15:23 Calinou AH 15:24 jordach http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AyCJvzqhFK4/TUjsZ3MxZZI/AAAAAAAABNI/mLHcacTy8K8/s1600/cool-story-bro.gif 15:25 spectator i guess i understand why everyone here is so angre. 15:28 spectator it is also interesting that not much was done in a last couple of weeks, but still, almost everyone (especially c55) here are cool kids 15:28 spectator i dont like it. 15:29 spectator for some reason there is a "bad" atmosphere in minetest community 15:29 spectator maybe it is because c55 behaves like he do and everyone else follow him 15:30 spectator that just sucks 15:31 sfan5 afk 15:31 spectator these stupid picture-jokes are stupid too, by the way 15:32 jordach spectator, its aimed at Calinou he WILL usually do this 15:32 jordach and frankly, we do help people 15:32 jordach just when someones away 15:32 spectator it does not matter who does this 15:33 jordach btw 15:33 jordach celeron55 can be on his man periods 15:33 jordach (most of the time) 15:34 jordach celeron55, why did you create a new channel btw? two were enough 15:34 jordach 20110922_3 15:34 jordach * celeron55 has kicked Calinou from #minetest-dev (for this) 15:34 jordach * Calinou (~Calinou@unaffiliated/calinou) has joined #minetest-dev 15:34 jordach \o/ a kick 15:34 jordach * celeron55 has kicked Calinou from #minetest-dev (Calinou) 15:34 jordach * celeron55 sets ban on *!*Calinou@unaffiliated/calinou 15:34 Calinou lol @ kick THEN ban 15:34 Calinou usually it's ban THEN kick 15:34 jordach true 15:34 Calinou spectator, the minetest forum has lots of kids yeah 15:35 spectator yeah, i know, that is why i'm not visiting it 15:35 jordach spectator, at times, #minetest has them too 15:35 jordach but on rare occaisions 15:35 jordach (they think irc works like msn) 15:35 spectator it is because irc is not as popular as forums 15:36 jordach true, but the fact is they cant grasp another form of communication besides web pages 15:36 jordach and msn, skype 15:37 spectator they only use things which are popular in the group of other kids 15:37 jordach exactly 15:37 jordach thats why i left the forums 15:37 uonilaC one sec, trying something 15:37 uonilaC seeing the hostmask, I might still join 15:37 uonilaC nope. 15:38 jordach you could have tried changing you calinou@unafflilliated/calinou 15:38 jordach use a REAL IP 15:38 Calinou lol 15:38 * Calinou likes his troll cloak! 15:38 jordach im too lazy to make on 15:38 jordach one* 15:39 jordach Calinou puts his "troll" in a box! 15:39 brobostigon reverse dns, and my own domain, to the rescue. 15:39 Calinou lol 15:39 jordach yep 15:39 jordach UK FTW 15:40 Calinou france FTL 15:40 jordach hold on 15:40 jordach lemme see my 1000 things britain did before france 15:40 jordach the guillotine being one of them 15:40 spectator just thinking... c55 spends a lot of time organizing the code and architecture. is that really necessary? especially slow lua mods? 15:41 spectator because it is not necessary to separate things that way 15:41 jordach i know, mesecons are horrible because of this problem 15:41 spectator like MT = C++, 3rd party mods = Lua ONLY!!11 15:42 spectator maybe the game should be made like other ones - few subsystems (renderer, server, etc.) connected together 15:42 spectator and the most important parts should be implemented in C++ in these subsystems 15:43 spectator example, mesecons could go into server subsystem, 3d player - into render subsys. 15:44 spectator development would go faster and also the game would work faster (Lua is much slower than native code) 15:44 ironzorg spectator: what you said 15:44 ironzorg I told c55 a few years ago 15:44 ironzorg he just told me I was an idiot 15:45 ironzorg my advice would be: if you think it's best for the engine, fork the project and DIY 15:45 ironzorg because he won't listen to you 15:46 jordach ^ and i thought MS sat on their laurels 15:47 spectator i think it would be too hard to fork this project because his code is actually not very good 15:47 jordach ironzorg, your flowers mod could do with a ton of updates 15:47 jordach spectator, im working on some fork 15:47 jordach that gains, infinite maps, mobs, improved code 15:47 spectator can i see it? or it is not publicly available yet? 15:47 jordach im tired of 31000 15:47 jordach spectator, it is 15:48 jordach HOWEVER 15:48 jordach this will be 0.2 15:48 ironzorg jordach: I don't have time for personnal project these days, you do it 15:48 ironzorg also I'm kind of bored of lua 15:48 ironzorg and I've only used it for a few days 15:48 jordach https://bitbucket.org/minetestclassicteam/minetest-classic 15:49 jordach current status 15:49 ironzorg lol. 15:51 spectator are there compiled binaries for win32? just dont want to spend a couple of hours for compilation. 15:52 jordach no 15:53 spectator it is not compatible with m$ windows? 15:53 jordach it is 15:53 jordach but cross-compiling is an ass 15:53 spectator yeah that is true 15:54 brobostigon i thought there were binaries for windows on github . 15:54 jordach my fork he means 15:54 brobostigon ah. 15:55 spectator compiling opensource projects on win32 is pain in ass too :) the easiest one was reactos because it contained build environment with it 15:56 spectator it is just boring to collect libraries from all over the internet 15:56 spectator and complining them too 15:57 jordach ikr 15:57 spectator i will try to compile your project though 15:57 jordach linux ftw 15:57 jordach spectator, id wait some time 15:57 jordach its still no where near done 15:57 spectator oh 15:57 spectator ok 16:04 Calinou i will try to compile your project though 16:04 Calinou lol 16:04 Calinou compiling opensource projects on win32 is pain in ass too :) the easiest one was reactos because it contained build environment with it 16:05 Calinou +1 because FOSS zealots 16:05 Calinou it is not compatible with m$ windows? 16:05 Calinou lol m$ 16:05 Calinou i thought there were binaries for windows on github . 16:05 Calinou never, because "proper" coders (namely git coders) say "lol bins sux" 16:05 Calinou "better use trash cans" 16:06 Anchakor binaries don't belong into source code repository 16:08 spectator actually binaries must be never saved in the repo 16:08 spectator but they can be added as downloads 16:09 spectator it is because version control systems work best with text files 16:10 spectator but you will not break it if you will put a binary file in it (like image, compressed archive or even executable) 16:10 spectator it just will eat a lot of space and useful things like diff will not work 16:12 spectator that is why there is a download section which is not covered by git on a github 16:12 Anchakor yeah I meant binaries like the produced executable 16:12 spectator yep, they should be uploaded separately from the repo 16:12 brobostigon Calinou: https://github.com/downloads/celeron55/minetest/minetest-0.4.dev-20120606-win32.zip well there, 16:12 Anchakor source should be just source file - without the products like generated documentation, executable... 16:12 Calinou yes, it's a download not a tag 16:13 Calinou binaries don't belong into source code repository 16:13 Calinou > what the 56k fanboy says 16:13 brobostigon Calinou: thats what i was refferring to, a download. 16:14 Anchakor wtf 56k