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IRC log for #minetest, 2019-09-27

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02:06 kurtzmusch !book
02:06 MinetestBot kurtzmusch: Minetest Modding Book - https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/
02:07 swift110 nice
02:13 kurtzmusch is it practical to store 120k of key, values with mod_storage?
02:14 kurtzmusch those would be loaded only once and kept as a lua table until server shutdown ...
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12:25 jas_ you could try just pushing it until it breaks, kurtzmusch
12:28 jas_ "there's more than one way to find out what's inside an egg"
12:28 jas_ lol
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12:47 Wuzzy woah. i am already minetesting for 7 years now, can you believe it?
12:47 Wuzzy time flies fast ...
12:48 Wuzzy https://wiki.minetest.net/images/6/6c/Minetest_Mods_and_Games_by_Wuzzy_2012_2019.png
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13:06 Wuzzy Can someone give me advice, please?
13:07 Wuzzy explain why this user has a "freeze" in v6, plz: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16407&view=unread#p358006
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18:03 codic Wuzzy: Minetest v6?
18:03 codic whats that?
18:03 Wuzzy nothing
18:03 codic i thought we were at v5
18:03 Wuzzy its in your fantasy alone
18:04 codic You just said freeze in v6
18:04 Wuzzy mapgen v6!!
18:04 codic Oh ok :P
18:04 Wuzzy also, it was not me who said this, it was that user
18:04 Wuzzy any explanation?
18:04 codic But Final Minetest==Minetest v6 right?
18:04 Wuzzy oh i should repost the question
18:04 Wuzzy explain why this user has a "freeze" in v6, plz: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16407&view=unread#p358006
18:05 codic Wat?
18:05 codic Can you add spawn eggs?
18:05 Wuzzy i already did. in MCL2 at least.
18:05 Wuzzy except they dont look like eggs at all 😦
18:06 codic Do they work?
18:06 Wuzzy Final Minetest would not be v6, but more like v999999999
18:06 codic Wait what
18:06 codic Final Minetest is a porgra
18:06 Wuzzy woosh
18:07 Wuzzy thats the sound it makes when the joke went over your head
18:07 codic final minetest
18:07 codic fork of v4
18:07 Krock same sound when it's a plane
18:07 Wuzzy "Final Minetest is a porgra" ... WHAT???
18:08 GreenDimond What does Final Minetest have to do with anything
18:08 codic I meant program
18:08 GreenDimond Final Minetest is not official or endorsed and should not be used
18:09 Wuzzy why should it not be used? its just a game. dont judge people for what they play!
18:09 Wuzzy unless you want to claim it is malware and hacks my pc or something like that
18:09 codic But some servers only work with it
18:10 codic Exactly
18:10 codic It's not malware
18:10 codic although the website can be misleading
18:10 Wuzzy oh boy yes thats true
18:10 GreenDimond The creator and the source site are malicious
18:10 GreenDimond The intent of the game is to claim "ownership" of Minetest
18:11 Wuzzy but can you proof to me that Final Minetest, the program alone, are malware?
18:11 codic Wait what?
18:11 codic Who says?
18:11 Wuzzy GreenDimond
18:11 Wuzzy kind of implies it
18:11 codic besides him
18:11 GreenDimond The game itself is not malicious
18:11 codic XD
18:11 GreenDimond Never said it was
18:11 codic what is
18:12 codic You said the creator and the author are malicious
18:12 codic But HOW?
18:12 GreenDimond Though it does send user data without permission, IIRC, Wuzzy
18:13 GreenDimond There is a discussion about this somewhere
18:13 codic Wait
18:13 codic what data
18:13 Wuzzy source of it didnt happen!
18:13 codic ok
18:13 Wuzzy source or it didnt happen!*
18:13 codic can you post it
18:13 GreenDimond Somewhere implying I dont know where
18:13 codic yeah
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18:13 Wuzzy "someone somewhere said something" is not evidence
18:13 codic Then it isn't correct
18:13 codic without a source
18:13 Wuzzy thats not what i said
18:13 GreenDimond Wuzzy, is there a reason you are trying to defend software made by OldCoder?
18:14 codic Is Final Minetest open source?
18:14 MinetestBot [git] srifqi -> minetest/minetest: All settings: Fix missing flags checkbox caused by 'possible flags' o… b79741c https://git.io/JeZcq (2019-09-27T18:13:08Z)
18:14 codic Who's Old Coder?
18:14 GreenDimond Someone you dont want to deal with
18:14 Wuzzy I just demand evidence for your claims.
18:14 codic Seriously
18:14 codic Who is he
18:15 codic Wuzzy is absolutely correct
18:15 GreenDimond Which claim
18:15 Wuzzy an user who was banned from MT forums and most #minetest IRC rooms
18:15 codic The claim that Final Minetest is malware
18:15 GreenDimond His servers were banned from the list too
18:15 GreenDimond I did not say it was malware
18:15 Wuzzy OldCoder operates minetest.org and Final Minetest
18:15 GreenDimond Or malicious
18:15 Wuzzy hum. the servers too?
18:15 Wuzzy how did that happen?
18:16 Wuzzy incompatible? trying to hack sth?
18:16 GreenDimond He is a malicious party
18:16 GreenDimond He scrapes player info
18:16 GreenDimond Just like he does from his site
18:16 Wuzzy and how do you know?
18:17 GreenDimond Because he says so
18:17 Wuzzy where?
18:17 GreenDimond on his site
18:17 GreenDimond Why are you being so difficult
18:17 GreenDimond Everyone but you knows this
18:18 Wuzzy ooff do you think i am reading like billions of pages now? :/
18:18 Wuzzy minetest.org is kinda huge.
18:18 GreenDimond Just a little bit big, yes
18:18 Wuzzy why is it so hard to just post a link?
18:18 GreenDimond Why do you think
18:18 GreenDimond Why would I keep direct links to random posts
18:19 GreenDimond If you don't believe me I dont care
18:19 Wuzzy so you claim OldCoder grabs passwords of players?
18:19 GreenDimond I didnt say passwords
18:19 GreenDimond I said data
18:19 GreenDimond In general
18:19 GreenDimond Maybe it includes passwords
18:19 GreenDimond It likely includes IPs
18:19 Wuzzy ah you mean general data leech stuff?
18:19 Krock all servers collect data, it's their job.
18:20 GreenDimond Ok, I mean keep it for unreasonable purposes, Krock
18:20 GreenDimond I shouldnt have to keep specifying this stuff
18:20 Wuzzy can you be more specific?
18:20 Krock GreenDimond: verbosity is good
18:20 GreenDimond cba
18:21 GreenDimond not with wuzzy
18:21 GreenDimond Why dont you just ask someone like sfan5 for the specific reason his servers were blacklisted
18:21 GreenDimond Everyone knows OldCoder is a malicious party, I shouldn't have to prove it to you.
18:22 GreenDimond (Everyone: The regular community)
18:26 Wuzzy Is it something personal?
18:26 Wuzzy Did you both get in a fight or something?
18:26 GreenDimond lol no
18:27 GreenDimond You are really out of the loop arent you
18:27 Wuzzy so you personally never had any *direct* trouble with OldCoder?
18:27 GreenDimond If you dont know then you dont know I guess
18:27 GreenDimond Once maybe?
18:28 Wuzzy oh?
18:28 GreenDimond He's usually too busy attacking the rest of the community
18:28 Wuzzy interesting. i was never attacked.
18:28 Wuzzy whatever you mean with "attack"
18:28 GreenDimond *sigh*
18:28 GreenDimond Im done with you
18:29 Wuzzy 🙁
18:29 Wuzzy look. its you who makes the claims
18:29 GreenDimond They arent claims
18:29 GreenDimond They are restatement of past events
18:29 GreenDimond That you happened to miss
18:29 GreenDimond Somehow
18:29 Wuzzy pics or it didnt happen
18:29 GreenDimond Fuck off
18:30 Wuzzy well, that escalated quickly ...
18:30 GreenDimond Yep
18:30 GreenDimond "pics or it didnt happen" is bs
18:31 sfan5 it's hard to take your concern trolling seriously when you have experienced the events in e.g. 2017
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18:33 Wuzzy speaking of events. did anything happen *recently*?
18:33 sfan5 he's been harassing various community members in private here and there
18:34 GreenDimond Some openly (twitter incident)
18:34 Wuzzy *recently*??
18:34 sfan5 yes recently
18:34 Wuzzy there's a twitter? oops i didnt know
18:34 sfan5 isn't that what you asked
18:34 sfan5 do you think I can't read
18:38 Wuzzy i guess i will just never really understand what that oldcoder drama is really about them. welp...
18:39 sfan5 in December 2017 you created a forum topic in general discussion, it provides some insight, give it a read
18:41 Wuzzy lol that trademark thing? the trademark was never registered, amirite? 😀
18:42 Wuzzy ooohh 2017? thats like 2 billion internet years ago. yeah well
18:43 Wuzzy but in all seriousness. would it be even legal for any minetest community member to just trademark "minetest"?
18:44 Wuzzy wellll.Even if. Minetest is still a pretty shitty name. 😀
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18:44 MinetestBot DS-minetest: Sep-25 20:14 UTC <AlexYst> I finally got the mesh working, but it's using multiple textures in OBJ format. Multi-texture OBJs still work.
18:45 DS-minetest hm, do obj materials work in minetest?
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18:51 tumeninodes Wuzzy, how is this? A while back I asked him to stop spamming users PMs with vile and confusing/disturbing PMs, he took this as a reason to attack me, and the dox me on his site giving information on where I live because he thinks he is a some wizard hacker (even though I had always publicly and openly admitted my own town of residence, then he went on to state that I am part of an organization which promotes child pornography and
18:51 tumeninodes harassed and me (of which I have saved every single interaction) He feels everyone owes him something and if you do not agree or he perceives that you are against him he will attack you
18:51 tumeninodes so there you go
18:51 tumeninodes is that "a nice person?" he is also mentally disturbed
18:52 tumeninodes and when I asked him to stop spamming PMs on the forum I did so because my child was on the forums and got PMs stating I am part of a child pornogaphy ring (basically)
18:52 tumeninodes he has called people's places of work, etc... as well.
18:53 tumeninodes He feels that because he volunteered for a few years at provideing "help" to people regarding MT/MTG that it is now his.
18:54 tumeninodes he uses his disability to attack people and bully them and harass them and twist their words.
18:55 tumeninodes thats all I have to say on the matter now... see ya
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20:18 Andrey01 hello, how to check whether a player has his inventory opened?
20:24 Calinou as far as I know, you can't, it's purely client-side
20:24 Calinou I'm not sure if the client even sends a packet when opening the inventory
20:26 Andrey01 ah ok
20:27 Krock no packets are sent
20:38 codic VanessaE Did you consider adding Laptops to Dreambuilder?
20:38 codic !mod laptops
20:38 MinetestBot codic: computers &#58; Realistics laptops by jimy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9567
20:39 Andrey01 thx, other question: how long does one game minute last in real time?
20:40 codic I'm pretty sure not more then  a couple secs
20:40 Andrey01 that is, exactly 2 seconds?
20:40 codic I'm not sure lol
20:41 codic I just guessed
20:41 GreenDimond It depends on the minetest.conf settings
20:41 VanessaE codic, I'll look at it again after I get internet back at home.
20:41 codic You can set it with /set time_speed=(something)
20:41 codic ingame
20:41 codic I think that changes minetest.conf
20:41 GreenDimond Yes
20:41 codic ok
20:42 Andrey01 I don`t need to configure it
20:42 Andrey01 hmm, I think it lasts even less a one second
20:42 codic Ok
20:43 calcul0n Andrey01, with default settings i think it's 1 minute = 1 second irl
20:43 calcul0n but it can vary a lot with lag
20:43 GreenDimond You shouldnt hardcode it
20:43 GreenDimond calculate it from the conf setting
20:43 Wuzzy its the time_speed setting
20:44 Wuzzy its 72 by default, meaning that minetest time is 72 faster than real time
20:44 Andrey01 I was just very fast entering /time cmd and the time changed approx at one minute
20:47 Andrey01 and I entered it in each 0.5/0.8 seconds
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22:03 kurtzmusch anyone know how viable it is to store about 1.200.000 key, values pair with mod_store?
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23:36 Wuzzy who has "thread moving rights"? to move threads from WIP Mods to Mod Releases forum?

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