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00:03 Jordach meanwhile discord is hoovering up everything because it's polised and awesome
00:06 XtremeHacker Have you ever tried Mumble?
00:06 Jordach yes
00:06 Jordach 1997 called
00:06 Jordach UI design evolved since then
00:07 Jordach plus the mobile apps aren't entirely WANK
00:07 Jordach polish is worth more than the shit codebase it stands on
00:07 sofar as long as it's OSS, I have a high tolerance for clumnky UIs
00:07 Milan[m]1 mumble works just fine for me - i dont use it for chatting but for orderly voip
00:07 Milan[m]1 also there are themes
00:07 XtremeHacker I use it for VOIP with a friend instead of Skype
00:08 XtremeHacker I'm loving Rubenwardy's modding book right now
00:08 Milan[m]1 mumble is not designed to replace some instant messengers - for those i have matrix, it is similar to slack as discord is and i like it way more
00:11 Milan[m]1 but i agree that it would be nice to have everything in one place - lets see what the future of matrix brings.
00:11 Milan[m]1 gn8
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00:11 Milan[m]1 (matrix has voip but yet only "basic")
00:17 Fixer discord is open source?
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00:18 Emperor_Genshin its free
00:18 XtremeHacker How do I make a list?
00:18 XtremeHacker I'm very new to modding, and need to make a list of upgrades for something
00:39 comradmax XtremeHacker, can you use notepan?
00:39 comradmax notepad
00:48 rubenwardy XtremeHacker, <3
00:50 Emperor_Genshin heh
00:50 Emperor_Genshin notepad
00:50 Emperor_Genshin good times
00:51 comradmax notepad: your files are only in diff encodings *before* you save them from notepad
00:51 comradmax i think mumble runs on notepad
00:53 comradmax "use our notepad insipired UI" --mumble
00:57 XtremeHacker I'm here
00:57 XtremeHacker I was AFK
00:58 XtremeHacker I prefer wordpad on windows, and mousepad on linux. :P
00:58 XtremeHacker Notepad sucks
00:59 rubenwardy Notepad++ is code for code editing on Windows
01:00 XtremeHacker IK
01:00 XtremeHacker Notepad++ is OK, I prefer Atom for coding though.
01:00 rubenwardy same
01:03 Emperor_Genshin i prefer gedit
01:04 XtremeHacker My software suite I must have:
01:04 XtremeHacker Hexchat
01:05 XtremeHacker Mumble
01:05 XtremeHacker Blender
01:05 XtremeHacker Gimp
01:05 XtremeHacker Atom
01:05 XtremeHacker Chromium
01:05 XtremeHacker Minetest
01:05 XtremeHacker Gitkraken
01:05 XtremeHacker Arch
01:05 XtremeHacker What about you guys?
01:06 XtremeHacker *Arch Linux
01:08 sofar I avoid webmail, so, thunderbird
01:09 sofar Thunar for regular file management stuff
01:09 sofar there;s quite a few more apps I use to do mt stuff - e.g. audacity
01:13 Emperor_Genshin audacity is fun
01:13 XtremeHacker Yes. :D
01:14 Emperor_Genshin XtremeHacker, I have tons of things so Idk where to begin with, lol
01:14 Emperor_Genshin but i do run CentOS, FreeBSD, Fedora OS
01:14 Emperor_Genshin on my system
01:15 Emperor_Genshin So, about windows 10, what do you guys think of it?
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01:18 htur Hi all :D
01:19 htur Hi Genshin :)
01:19 Emperor_Genshin hi
01:19 htur Hi garywhite
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01:19 XtremeHacker Windows 10 is OK, I just prefer Xubuntu/Arch
01:19 htur Hi
01:20 htur Hi OldCoder
01:20 Jordach i have windows 10 x64 pro
01:20 OldCoder
01:20 htur Hi rubenwardy!
01:20 Jordach it's much better with a windows xp skin through uxpatcer
01:20 htur Hi Thomas-S :)
01:20 XtremeHacker Hi OldCoder
01:21 OldCoder o/
01:22 htur hi cheapie
01:22 cheapie ...highlight spam much?
01:22 htur ?
01:23 Emperor_Genshin Windows xp is still better than 10 imo
01:24 htur Ubuntu better lol
01:24 rubenwardy I prefer the UI of W10 to xp
01:25 Emperor_Genshin linux is still better than windows though
01:25 rubenwardy there's workspaces and nicer window stuff
01:25 rubenwardy but spyware and breaking updates
01:25 rubenwardy no thanks, I'll just using xubunt
01:25 Emperor_Genshin true, though i don't like how they have to force people to update to Windows 10
01:25 htur me and my siblings used to share a computer with Ubuntu..it was really nice but it broke and my mom has a computer with windows...its SO annoying lol
01:27 Jordach htur, ubuntu for windows 10; http://www.zdnet.com/article/ubun​tu-and-bash-arrive-on-windows-10/
01:27 htur Ok
01:27 Jordach i have no need for it
01:27 Jordach but if the time ever comes
01:27 htur :P
01:28 htur my moms PC isnt windows ten i think its something Like Windows7 or 8...
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03:42 Nyarg winXP not so bad anyway
03:52 XtremeHacker Windows XP is/was great, just dated
03:52 XtremeHacker Great OS for the time
03:52 XtremeHacker 'I think OS X Snow Leapord was better though. :)
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06:42 XeonSquared Windows XP was okay
06:43 XeonSquared I preferred 2k though
06:45 XeonSquared https://github.com/XeonSquared/test3d so uh, I made a functional 8-bit stack machine microcontroller for use with digilines
06:45 kaeza uh, why is it a modpack?
06:45 XeonSquared I had more stuff at one point
06:45 XeonSquared like a memory block
06:45 kaeza also, I really liked Win98SE
06:46 XeonSquared I'm gonna have a 12-bit and 16-bit version at some point also
06:46 cheapie The community center on VE-S has some shiny new computers: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/im​ages/screenshot_20170313_014143.png
06:46 kaeza ah, fair enough
06:47 XeonSquared Not sure how I'm going to deal with the 64k-byte memory space of a 16-bit machine though
06:47 XeonSquared Seems rather large...
06:47 kaeza XeonSquared, I asked because some modders create modpacks to get around that "-master" thingy
06:47 kaeza well, in the past they did
06:47 cheapie Just don't install RAM in all 64K.
06:47 kaeza we now have mod.conf
06:48 XeonSquared Huh. Didn't even realise it was a thing. I git clone mods
06:48 cheapie Like, say, 1K of RAM, some useful-ish ROM stuff, and maybe some kind of memory-mapped I/O. Any leftover address space can just be unused.
06:48 XeonSquared I could just restrict it to 4k of RAM
06:48 kaeza yep. when you download a ZIP, GH helpfully adds "-<branchname>" to the archive name (including directory)
06:49 XeonSquared like the 12-bit version will have
06:49 XeonSquared Or maybe 8k because 4k full words
06:50 kaeza XeonSquared, BTW, be prepared for this: https://github.com/minetest-mods/digilines/pull/44
06:50 XeonSquared Right.
06:50 XeonSquared I guess I'll add a check for both
06:51 XeonSquared That's a fairly minimal change though.
06:51 XeonSquared Thanks for the warning.
06:53 XeonSquared I need to get a plain debian box running some time
06:54 XeonSquared I want to see if it works on 0.4.10
06:54 XeonSquared cheapie, those computers are from homedecor, right?
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06:55 cheapie XeonSquared: I think so, yeah.
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07:09 MinetestBot [git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest: GUI: Allow texture packs to customize the progress bar (#5368) c9492b4 https://git.io/vy6qN (2017-03-13T07:07:14Z)
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07:17 Nyarg have anybody something like cube.x model that allow be tiled with   textures = {"a1.png","a2.png"..."a6.png"} or with ^[combine ?
07:19 Nyarg I want apply each face with different texture
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07:54 XeonSquared Is there a way to switch the T-junctions on tracks?
08:00 Markow Did I just 'hear' tracks??  MT now has well functioning minecarts and tracks?
08:03 XeonSquared In vanilla, no less.
08:04 kaeza XeonSquared, no, but you can control which direction you go with WASD
08:06 Markow Is there sound yet ,for Minecarts / Tracks in MT?
08:06 XeonSquared I'm not sure if they're unique sounds because I haven't *played* much but it definitely has sounds
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10:19 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Napping Day! 😴 💤
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12:24 Milan[m]1 can't `deco_type = "simple",` be spawned under water? o.O
12:35 XeonSquared Are there any mods that have a mesecons-switchable rail?
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13:39 TalkLounge Is celeron55 here?
13:40 strncpy TalkLounge: apparently so
13:41 sfan5 hier ja, anwesend eher nicht
13:41 TalkLounge I need his help
13:41 strncpy Is that german
13:41 sfan5 yes
13:42 strncpy "yes, but he doesnt answer at night" ?
13:42 strncpy Is that close in any way
13:42 TalkLounge I am from Germany, yes. And my IP is blocked for the forum.
13:42 ^7heo strncpy: ja, das ist Deutsch.
13:42 strncpy Si
13:43 ^7heo Lei e Italiano?
13:43 strncpy Нет
13:43 sfan5 strncpy: you got about half right, however it's not night in finland
13:43 strncpy sfan5: nice to know 5 years of german were only half wasted :D
13:43 TalkLounge Should i write him a e-mail or is it better to wait until hes back?
13:43 ^7heo strncpy: Was ist das für ein Schriftbild?
13:44 strncpy Oh christ thats a lot of dots
13:44 strncpy Uhm
13:44 sfan5 TalkLounge: i doubt you want to wait, just mail him
13:44 strncpy Is it (b) ?
13:44 ^7heo usually it's /b/
13:44 * ^7heo hides
13:44 strncpy ^7heo: i dont actually speak german :D
13:45 sfan5 o.O
13:45 ^7heo strncpy: same here.
13:45 strncpy But
13:45 ^7heo In the what what?
13:45 strncpy Oh you used German translate
13:45 strncpy Uh
13:45 ^7heo Nah
13:45 strncpy Googlw even
13:45 ^7heo I don't use Google for anything.
13:45 strncpy Bing?
13:46 ^7heo No, my brain.
13:46 strncpy Yahoo has a p good translator
13:46 ^7heo "I speak <insert language here>" != "I can articulate a finite number of thoughts in <insert language here>"
13:47 strncpy That's true for any language
13:47 ^7heo Indeed, hence the placeholder instead of a specific language name.
13:47 ^7heo Or is there anything you didn't understand?
13:48 TalkLounge Ok. Bye then.
13:48 ^7heo Oh no, calculon is dead!
13:48 strncpy Kthxbai
13:49 ^7heo I thought that the World Acting Championship wasn't due for a thouthand years approximately.
13:49 strncpy Lol
13:49 ^7heo But I must be wrong, since calculon just died...
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13:53 strncpy Yay
14:05 ^7heo Oh calculon was resurrected.
14:05 ^7heo Damn, time passes real fast.
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15:33 sofar !mod frame
15:33 MinetestBot sofar: Item frames and pedestal [itemframes] by Zeg9 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5600
15:33 * sofar smacks minetestbot
15:33 sofar !mod flowerpot
15:33 MinetestBot sofar: flowerpots [flowerpots] by D00Med - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=16573
15:33 sofar ugh
15:33 VanessaE homedecor, actually, btw.
15:33 sofar useless bot
15:34 sofar nope, there's mods with those exact names
15:34 VanessaE yep, homedecor contains zeg9's itemframes.  its version is maintained, his is nto.
15:34 VanessaE not*
15:34 VanessaE not familiar with that flowerpots mod though
15:35 sofar "flowerpot"
15:35 VanessaE -s :P
15:35 sofar https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopi​c.php?f=9&amp;t=16574&amp;start=25
15:35 sofar and
15:35 sofar https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=16585
15:35 sofar it's my non-entity frame/flowerpot
15:36 VanessaE I'd use yours if minetest could define nodes in realtime (and it didn't matter what was being displayed; players on my servers use them for all kinds of stuff)
15:37 sofar this is gen 1
15:37 sofar I'm using it as a stick argument to get meta set nodedef merged
15:37 VanessaE aahhhhhhh
15:37 sofar that will obliterate the need for all the node registrations
15:37 sofar and then item frames are just going to be one mesh
15:38 sofar well, actually, at that point I'll likely add variants for stairs, slabs and a few other shapes
15:38 sofar since then it doesn't matter much
15:38 VanessaE well, you'll need a few, depending on the shape of the displayed thing, but I get your point
15:38 sofar you can combine them all together, but it's just kinda messy
15:39 sofar 5 different meshes in a node is certainly reasonable and not too complex
15:39 sofar just use tiles[]
15:39 VanessaE yeah, I know how that goes (mesecons water turbine)
15:39 sofar the frame has 3 materials - one for the frame and 2 for blocks and image views
15:40 sofar that's not so bad
15:40 sofar stairs+slab make 2 more
15:40 sofar after that it gets out of hand
15:42 sofar brb tea
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15:54 BBmine How long will it take ABJ's thread to get deleted BTW?
15:54 BBmine LOL
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16:06 sofar BBmine: I don't think threads get deleted, period
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16:15 BBmine sofar: Actually I think they do.
16:15 sofar isn't it in offtopic?
16:16 BBmine Yeah. I'm not saying it should be deleted, it's just that ABJ called it "How long will it take for this thread to get deleted"
16:16 BBmine So I was just curious
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19:15 Baffy[m] are there any mods that let me enable/disable damage as a priv
19:15 An0n3m0us im sure there is
19:15 An0n3m0us im not sure where though
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19:16 An0n3m0us ofcourse somewhere on the forums
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19:18 An0n3m0us using unlimited apples :)
19:18 An0n3m0us or no-damage armor
19:19 An0n3m0us the dream-builder server's admin managed to do it.
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21:59 red-001 this channel sure is inactive today
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22:01 wilkgr Wuzzy said - "PS: wilkgr76, your avatar is … GRRR! xD"
22:01 wilkgr xD
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22:03 wilkgr Hey riff-IRC
22:03 riff-IRC hey
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22:25 Milan[m]1 i honestly create schematics now to decor under the water rofl
22:26 Milan[m]1 (since regular plant nodes don't appear during mapgen)
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22:41 Nyarg I want to use ^[colorize to particular faces. Is it possible ?
22:41 swift110 hey all
22:43 agaran Nyarg: you can colorize particular textures, so fo nodebox you can pick any(combination) of 6 faces
22:58 MinetestBot [git] red-001 -> minetest/minetest: Add `get_wielded_item` 88df9fb https://git.io/vyPB9 (2017-03-13T22:56:05Z)
22:58 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: [CSM] Add enable_client_modding param (default: false) 44ca9c9 https://git.io/vyPBH (2017-03-13T22:56:05Z)
22:58 MinetestBot [git] red-001 -> minetest/minetest: [CSM] Add `on_punchnode` callback 0727bb3 https://git.io/vyPBQ (2017-03-13T22:56:05Z)
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23:01 Baffy[m] is there a good no-damage armor?
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23:01 Baffy[m] i read about a lot of mods but i haven't seen anything
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23:02 Baffy[m] i just want to disable damage on select helpers on my server
23:02 VanessaE Baffy[m]: "admin armor"
23:02 Baffy[m] everyone else on survival, mods on creative/no-damage
23:02 VanessaE which I think is in either the 3d_armor mod, or maptools
23:03 Baffy[m] ohhh i wish these were better documented lol
23:04 Baffy[m] lua's easy to read though
23:12 wilkgr Is there any way I can get the map seed, now that I can't find it in debug info?
23:12 Nyarg oops my previous question was a little commonly so in additional - I am meaning entity of cource ) I am sorry. Is there anyway ^[colorize particular face of entity ?
23:14 wilkgr I think not, as you only add one texture which is then mapped to the entire model
23:14 wilkgr I may be wrong though
23:18 Nyarg I know next record is invalid but may be another way exist to do something ? - settexturemod(" ^[combine:16x16:0,0=default_wood.png"^​[colorize:#FFFFFF:50:16x16:0,0=default​_cobble.png"^[colorize:#FFFFFF:100)")
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