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03:53 redblade I'm getting slowness and 500 errors when i'm trying to use Krock's mod search
03:56 redblade i'm getting access denied errors now
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03:56 redblade sometimes it works sometimes not
03:58 redblade so...everyone's copyrighting everything?
03:58 redblade from public domain to open source
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04:00 XeonSquared Does Opaque Water improve performance?
04:00 redblade is krock here? i forgot his irc username
04:01 redblade cause his mod search page keeps crapping out
04:02 Chinchou redblade, copyright is "automatic" in some jurisdictions.  Licensing is done to prevent ambiguities.  If you don't care to keep copyright, CC0 and the like are useful - "public domain" is interpreted differently in different places, and some do not even acknowledge public domain.
04:03 redblade yes that's what i mean, cc0 and wtfpl
04:03 redblade public domain if possible, otherwise a license fallback
04:04 redblade but meaning switching to open source licenses which is copyrighted, is everyone doing that because of the abuse?
04:04 redblade by the adware clones?
04:05 Chinchou Once you've released something into public domain, there's no valid "taking it back".  I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
04:05 redblade if you make changes it becomes a derivative work
04:05 Chinchou Yes.
04:06 redblade so while the old github commit would be cc0/wtfpl by switching to mit you are copyrighting the new one
04:06 redblade from then on
04:06 Chinchou Well, that definition makes sense, but that's not always how it is in written laws
04:06 redblade well everyone seems to be switching from public domain waivers to permissive copyright, i was just noticing that
04:07 redblade for mods
04:07 Chinchou Hmm...  Are you talking about having a project under CC0 and then "changing" it to another license?
04:07 redblade right now i'm updating my server to 0.4.14-dev because of tree griefers, and i'm updating my mods too, and noticing that
04:07 redblade not exactly
04:07 Chinchou Things like CC0 can't be revoked, at least in some jurisdictions.
04:07 redblade the previous work remains public domain
04:07 redblade you cant revoke it
04:08 Chinchou All this political bullshit drives me batty.
04:08 redblade but if you make one change you can recopyright it
04:08 redblade or someone else can
04:08 Chinchou That depends on the jurisdiction.
04:08 redblade which is what the adware clones are doing
04:08 Chinchou That may be illegal.
04:08 redblade which is my guess as to why everyone is making commits recopyrighting it and changing to open-source
04:08 Chinchou Again, jurisdictions.
04:08 redblade it's not illegal if it's public domain
04:09 redblade or mimicking it (cc0)
04:09 Chinchou ...
04:09 redblade public domain can be used for any purpose at all
04:09 Chinchou Locally, one /cannot/ take something that is public domain and try to copyright it.
04:09 Chinchou Other places may be different, but here that's not valid.
04:09 redblade not true, what about all those printed books
04:09 Chinchou Yes, true.
04:09 Chinchou Like I said, "locally".
04:09 redblade those are derivative works
04:10 Chinchou Here, let me quote myself:
04:10 Chinchou <Chinchou> That depends on the jurisdiction.
04:10 redblade you can take graphics from a public domain mod and integrate it into your adware program and not give the original personc redit
04:10 * Chinchou facepalms
04:10 redblade open-source software is copyrighted and you have to follow the license
04:10 Chinchou Exactly, that's what "public domain" is.
04:11 redblade hey normally i'd love to debate all this stuff but i need to finish the upgrades and get a good night's sleep
04:11 redblade seriously, i would
04:11 Chinchou However, attempting to copyright something that is in the public domain is just as invalid here as it would be if you took something that is still under someone else's copyright and tried to claim that "this is now copyrighted to me".
04:12 Chinchou I don't give a rat's ass about this political garbage.  I know what I know out of necessity.
04:16 Chinchou (I think the disconnect here is that you're talking about /using/ something that is public domain in a larger project that is copyrighted.  Owning the copyright on the project doesn't make the public-domain art suddenly copyrighted, as that would be removing it from the public domain.  Short version:  Project is copyrighted, PD art is still not.  That's why places like OpenGameArt are useful.)
04:16 Chinchou Anyway, I have grapefruit to eat.
04:17 Chinchou Delicious fruit is far more important than controlling others.  *munch munch munch*
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08:22 IhrFussel The quest for the cause of my mysterious lag spikes continues: Now I increased dedicated_server_step setting to 2.0 and I'm STILL getting more than 10 seconds lag after some hours
08:23 Krock is it noticeable by regular players?
08:23 Krock btw, 2.0 is very slow IMO
08:24 IhrFussel Krock, it's just a test and yes others notice it...everything then stops for X seconds and suddenly the chat gets filled with up to 5 messages that were sent during the lag
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08:25 Krock if you were using a Lua mapgen then I'd know the reason
08:25 IhrFussel I'm using v6 mapgen
08:28 IhrFussel Krock, what I already tried so far: Disabled all mods (except areas mod) and enabled profiler..areas mod tops out at 15ms but it still lagged ... I increased ALL ABM intervals x 2 ... I removed some code from mods (but I'm pretty sure those are not the reason for the lags)
08:29 Krock and a disk issue is not possible?
08:29 IhrFussel How would I debug that on a v server?
08:33 IhrFussel Krock, does iotop tell me that? minetestserver there doesn't go above 2% IO
08:35 Krock oh :/
08:36 IhrFussel Wait it spiked to 30% for a second there
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08:54 jluc Hello
08:54 jluc there are various minetest android app
08:55 jluc which one should we install ?
08:55 jluc so as to play localy and possibly on a local network (with own intranet minetest 'server' tab)
08:57 Krock uhm.. the official one? It has the possibility to host a server, join one and play locally too. If it hasn't, it's not the official one
09:01 IhrFussel jluc, download Minetest by dev (Loic nrz)
09:05 jluc thanks IhrFussel
09:06 jluc The "official one" is also "Loic nrz" one Krock ?
09:06 Krock yes, like IhrFussel said
09:06 jluc ok thanks Krock
09:06 Krock I hope it's up to date
09:07 Krock !next
09:07 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
09:08 jluc my son asks for traps or kind of automatic mechanisms
09:08 jluc does this exists, maybe with a mod ?
09:08 IhrFussel Krock, it's 0.4.14 stable since July yes
09:08 Krock good
09:08 jluc in a simple way
09:08 jluc (son is 7)
09:11 Calinou <Chinchou> Things like CC0 can't be revoked, at least in some jurisdictions.
09:11 Calinou no free/open source license can be revoked
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09:15 IhrFussel jluc, mesecons mod
09:15 IhrFussel But i doubt that's simple enough for a 7 yr old
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09:24 jluc ok
09:25 IhrFussel jluc, mesecons are like redstones... you connect stuff and activate/deactivate it with switches/levers/blocks
09:26 jluc my son probably saw that kind of stuff on minecraft and requests it for its minetest
09:26 IhrFussel Blocks are nodes
09:26 Krock blocks (MC) = nodes (MT)
09:26 Krock (but not blocks = nodes)
09:27 IhrFussel Krock, the average player doesn't understand the concept of nodes so I personally refer to them as blocks
09:27 Krock because they're all used to the MC term
09:28 IhrFussel Krock, most players also expect a "Minecraft-like" experience when playing Minetest I'd assume
09:28 Krock hehe, me too
09:29 IhrFussel At least 50 players asked me where to find redstone so far
09:30 IhrFussel And 10 players wondered about there being no bedrock
09:30 Krock colorize a stone red and refer to that one to prank them
09:31 Krock >:D
09:31 IhrFussel Red stone is red lightstone
09:32 Krock huh?
09:32 IhrFussel I mean I already have a "redstone" it's mesecons lightsone red
09:32 IhrFussel lightstone*
09:33 IhrFussel It even can glow when powered!
09:33 Krock oh nice
09:34 IhrFussel But I feel like players will hate me if I do that prank to them
09:34 jluc mesecons.net look fun
09:35 IhrFussel jluc, it is fun if you learned how to use it...that might take a while
09:35 IhrFussel Even after 6 months now I still don't fully understand every behavior of mesecons
09:38 jluc i see
09:38 IhrFussel But it's fairly simple if all you want to do is powering a trapdoor via a switch or lever
09:39 jluc is there a tutorial for such a trap lever ?
09:40 IhrFussel I don't think so...you'd only have to place the mesecon wires at the trapdoor and then connect it to a lever attached to a node...that's all
09:43 IhrFussel jluc, do you also want monsters in the game?
09:44 jluc as for now my son doesnt ask for monsters, but he might want some once he has traps
09:44 jluc IhrFussel you mention a "trapdoor" : is this a specific item ?
09:45 IhrFussel I recommmend the mod "Mobs Redo" if you want to add monsters, it also contains animals... Trapdoors are part of the default game
09:47 IhrFussel But you don't have to use traps...with mesecons you can activate a lot more automatically
09:47 IhrFussel trapdoors*
09:48 IhrFussel Mesecons mod also contains "ghoststone" which is a stone type that disappears/reappears when activated
09:49 jluc as for mobs redo i find https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_redo
09:49 IhrFussel Yes that's the one
09:51 jluc it seems to be the "API" so is it required ?
09:52 jluc monsters seems to be https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_monster and farm https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_animal
09:52 IhrFussel jluc, no the mod contains an API to add more monsters in a simple way but the builtin monsters will work right out of the box
09:56 jluc ok
09:58 jluc https://github.com/sapier/animals_looks like another independant animals mod
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10:13 IhrFussel Krock, if I create a new world and the server doesn't lag anymore...would it be a mapgen issue then?
10:13 Krock no, v6 is stable and very fast
10:14 IhrFussel Krock, and what could be the issue then? database?
10:15 Krock I have no clue
10:15 IhrFussel Well...I'll have to find out...my players will be like "Whaaaaat where is my stuff, did you reset the world"
10:15 Krock I wouldn't be happy either
10:16 Krock my house on your server: http://i.imgur.com/myZ8u0P.png
10:16 IhrFussel But I'm just creating the test world to see if the lag persists...the old world will be used later again I'm just out of ideas
10:19 jluc i've installed castle and mob_animals mods
10:19 IhrFussel Krock, nice house...I just create the new world to finally be able to say "it is something with the world" or "it is something with the engine/my machine"
10:19 jluc but they depend on other mods : farming, mobs, doors
10:20 jluc which also depend on other mods...
10:20 Krock farming and doors are contain in your installtion
10:20 jluc do i have to install all these mods first untill all dependencies are satisfied ?
10:20 jluc ah
10:20 Krock yes, those with a tailing '?' are optional and not required
10:22 IhrFussel Krock, what do I need again to create a new world in 0.4.14? I mean tro create one via command line
10:22 Krock ugh
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10:22 Krock good question. I never did that before. Maybe it's helpful to call --help
10:24 IhrFussel --help doesn't help xD I think i need to create the directory plus some files inside worlds folder
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10:25 Megaf !server MineDigger
10:25 MinetestBot Megaf: MineDiggerTestServer | mt.megaf.info | Clients: 5/50, 1/6 | Version: 0.4.14 / MineDigger | Ping: 8ms
10:25 Megaf !server Megaf
10:25 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 9ms
10:25 Megaf !server Calinou
10:25 MinetestBot Megaf: Calinou [Europe/Paris] (survival - minimal mods) | hugo.pro:30002 | Clients: 10/32, 6/14 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 10ms
10:27 jluc ok they're playing with castle mod now
10:27 jluc wait and see if animals pop up
10:40 IhrFussel Umm does someone know how to create a world ONLY via command line? The forum says "set --world PATH/TO/WORLD/FOLDER" but then it says "Not available"
10:41 Krock minetest --world new/world does not work?
10:44 IhrFussel Krock, nope says "World "NAME" not available. Available worlds:"
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10:45 IhrFussel What the...I just found out LazyJ wrote a blog post about my server and how he created the spawn tower there lol
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10:51 IhrFussel Krock, oh I see I need to create the folder inside worlds then run "minetest --server --gameid ID --world path/to/world"
10:51 jluc mobs_animals require "mobs" mod which is not a default mod
10:52 IhrFussel mobs is Mobs Redo
10:52 jluc ah ! the api mod ok
10:53 jluc i thought it was another "mobs" named mod adding 5 monsters and 2 peacefull animals
11:03 IhrFussel jluc, sorry it seems like TenPlus1 changed the mobs mod...Mobs Redo only contains the API now and the other monsters are separated in other mods...but the Mobs Redo forum thread gives you the option to install the mobs mod with all monsters/animals included
11:19 IhrFussel Krock, were you the one saying "sqlite3 VACUUM" could help with lag?
11:19 Krock no, that wasn't me
11:20 IhrFussel Is it safe to use it on a map.sqlite file? Do you know?
11:20 Krock I never had enough players on my server to get these problems
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11:41 IhrFussel I had 19,000 player files before I deleted inactive ones...now I have 13,000 again
11:42 IhrFussel I still have no definitive answer to the question "does deleting player files reduce lag?" Someone on the forums said so
11:42 IhrFussel But would that make sense? AFAIK the game doesn't touch player files of offline players
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11:56 Megaf !up MineDigger
11:56 MinetestBot Megaf: invalid address
11:56 Megaf !server MineDigger
11:56 MinetestBot Megaf: MineDiggerTestServer | mt.megaf.info | Clients: 2/50, 1/6 | Version: 0.4.14 / MineDigger | Ping: 8ms
11:56 Megaf oh
11:57 nm0i >.>
11:57 Megaf nm0i: that' s one of the fastests servers to login/join
11:57 Megaf if not the fastest
11:57 nm0i Cobble only?
11:58 nm0i :3
11:58 Megaf very funny you
11:58 Megaf !server Megaf
11:58 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms
11:58 Megaf that's one of the slowests servers to login xP
11:59 nm0i !server Light
11:59 MinetestBot nm0i: Light creative | 178.79.185.175:30005 | Clients: 7/26, 4/8 | Version: 0.4.14 / stabilizer | Ping: 7ms
11:59 nm0i That's one of ugliest servers to login
11:59 nm0i Lego server probably beats it, though.
12:11 Krock Megaf, and I thought that Vanessa's dreambuilder would be the lowest
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12:34 Megaf Krock: empty your cache and compare
12:34 Megaf but I'm pretty sure my server is very slow
12:34 Krock I bet I couldn't even connect fully
12:40 Jordach Megaf, address? lemme test my fiber
12:44 Jordach >tfw invalid password after three years of not being here
12:44 Jordach >tfw you get it right
12:44 Jordach Krock, i connect fine :)
12:44 Krock Jordach, because your computer has an ocean as cooler
12:45 Jordach modern hardware components that are reasonably high end
12:50 Megaf Jordach: try this one now
12:50 Megaf !server MineDigger
12:50 MinetestBot Megaf: MineDiggerTestServer | mt.megaf.info | Clients: 0/50, 1/6 | Version: 0.4.14 / MineDigger | Ping: 7ms
12:50 Jordach no port?
12:50 Megaf 30000
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14:50 thefamilygrog66 howdy
14:50 CuriousErnestBro hi
14:52 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=17&amp;t=15389 approx. 306 words per post (average, without quotes)
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15:02 thefamilygrog66 Shit, there seem to be some pretty strong opinions about cursing on the forums...
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15:45 rubenwardy mergine #4417 in 5 mins as two separate commits
15:46 rubenwardy s/ine/ing/
15:47 rubenwardy as the first commit is sending the name of the field enter was pressed in, and the second as allowing better formsepc prediction by not always closing the formspec on enter
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15:58 Ronsor yay debian has minetest 0.4.14
15:58 Ronsor finally i can get off my old 0.4.13
15:58 Ronsor i also need to download the updated client
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16:00 Ronsor rubenwardy: you should let 40 players onto the capture the flag server (or atleast 30)
16:01 Ronsor its almost always full
16:01 Ronsor (i use about ~10mb/player on my server)
16:02 Ronsor upgrading minetest wont corrupt my map, right?
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16:27 nolsen Ronsor: Why not just compile minetest from git?
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16:35 IhrFussel !server IhrFussel
16:35 MinetestBot IhrFussel: IhrFussel's Server | 81.169.215.250:25000 | Clients: 20/35, 10/23 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 16ms
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16:54 rubenwardy Ronsor, too many for a small map
16:54 rubenwardy would be chaos
16:58 Ronsor oh
16:58 Ronsor i like chaos
16:58 Ronsor lol
16:58 Ronsor nolsen: because lazy
16:58 Ronsor !server Ronsor
16:58 MinetestBot Ronsor: No results
16:58 Ronsor hrm
16:58 Ronsor i forgot i delisted myself
16:58 Ronsor because of griefers
17:02 nolsen !server [TUSS]
17:02 MinetestBot nolsen: [TUSS] The Ultimate Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 1/20, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 155ms
17:04 MinetestBot [git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Allow fields to choose whether they close on enter press e10fee0 https://git.io/v6pNE (2016-08-27T13:05:01+01:00)
17:04 MinetestBot [git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Submit name of field on enter key press 4330c63 https://git.io/v6pNu (2016-08-27T13:02:45+01:00)
17:04 aix Ronsor: still friends with janice?
17:05 aix and do you still run that online.net labs docker shop?
17:05 aix the one with the poorly coded php app i think
17:05 nolsen aix: janice the troll?
17:05 aix j4jackj i believe
17:05 nolsen oh, the troll.
17:05 aix oh
17:05 aix was he/she a troll?
17:06 nolsen It's a 'he', I don't know why he calls himself a 'she'.
17:06 aix ...
17:06 nolsen Damn SJW nonsense.
17:06 aix ^
17:06 aix j4trannyj
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17:06 nolsen I SEXUALLY IDENTIFY AS A MINETEST
17:06 Ronsor aix: lol
17:06 nolsen My perferred pronouns are 'node' and 'ABM'
17:07 Ronsor Ellenor is more tolerable now (janice)
17:07 nolsen preferred*
17:07 Ronsor also the poorly coded php app
17:07 Ronsor that thing
17:07 Ronsor yeah dont run that
17:07 aix nolsen: LOL
17:07 Ronsor aix: whoooareyouuuu? aix
17:07 aix Ronsor: idontknooooooww! Ronsor
17:07 nolsen Ronsor: More tolerable?
17:07 nolsen He calls himself a she...
17:07 Ronsor as in doesn't piss me off every other day
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17:08 nolsen oh lol.
17:08 nolsen Sometimes he goes into #freenode and goes 'fuck you', then leaves.
17:08 Ronsor lol
17:08 nolsen or ignores me.
17:08 Ronsor i'm linked to jancie currently
17:08 Ronsor yay ircds
17:08 Ronsor too bad i've deprecated IRC
17:08 Ronsor libtoxcore's where its at
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17:09 nolsen #MakeMinetestGreatAgain
17:09 nolsen When ABMs send their lua mapgen process, they're not sending their best.
17:09 Ronsor or are they
17:10 Ronsor all i know is that 50 mods arent enough
17:10 Ronsor i need more
17:10 nolsen They're bringing lag, they're bringing "messages about ABMs taking too long"
17:11 nolsen So I will implement the TrumpABM.
17:11 rubenwardy I don't get why people care what someone identifies with gender wise
17:11 Ronsor oh no not trump
17:11 nolsen Every time an ABM is too slow, it will deport that ABM.
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17:12 nolsen rubenwardy: It's tumblr logic.
17:12 nolsen SJW logic.
17:13 Ronsor oh noes not tumblr
17:13 Ronsor thats worse
17:14 nolsen Ronsor: I'm triggered now.
17:14 * nolsen opens tumblr.com
17:14 Ronsor crap triggered
17:14 nolsen "Ronsor is a cisgendered, misafaiusbfa, ashufbesugberubgreyererygre, and needs to check his preevelege"
17:15 Ronsor screw their privelege
17:15 Ronsor /revoke SJW life
17:15 Ronsor if you show signs of 'SJW' on my server, you will be banned
17:15 Ronsor for "Disturbing the peace"
17:15 nolsen Ronsor: I had a hillary supporter on my server.
17:16 Ronsor OH LOLZ
17:16 Ronsor i suggest tolling
17:16 Ronsor *trolling
17:16 nolsen He thinks hillary is a nice person.
17:16 nolsen and very kind
17:16 nolsen and trump is "evil"
17:16 Ronsor LOL he cray cray
17:16 Ronsor trump is "evil", but so is hillary
17:16 Krock SJW as of Aug 26 4:00 PM ET Markets are closed
17:16 Krock 45.00 0.92 2.09%
17:16 Ronsor its a moot point
17:16 rubenwardy There are extremists on the side of every fence, but not everyone is extreme, most people are center
17:16 Ronsor you need the least sucky option
17:16 nolsen All trump did was said mean things, Hillary leaked emails, shit with bengahzi, wipe email server.
17:16 nolsen used private server, etc.
17:17 Ronsor ok
17:17 Ronsor so trump is bad, Hillary is evil
17:17 T4im rubenwardy: the extreme ones are louder though :(
17:17 rubenwardy very true
17:17 Ronsor what choice do we have?
17:17 Ronsor "The loud minority"
17:17 nolsen er, not leak emails
17:18 * T4im wonders how a loud center would sound like
17:18 nolsen I rather have a mean president, than someone who used a private email server, got people killed in benghazi, etc.
17:18 Ronsor good point
17:18 Ronsor a loud center would loudly criticze both
17:18 nolsen Oh, don't forgot the fact that she collected money from countries with horrible human rights record.
17:19 Ronsor saudi arabia?
17:19 nolsen Yes.
17:19 T4im i think that can actually be something you can get people behind :P "you all suck"
17:19 Ronsor figures
17:19 nolsen and still believes that "Islam is a religion of peace"
17:19 Ronsor not really
17:19 Ronsor so much jihad
17:19 Ronsor too much dead
17:19 Ronsor or...
17:19 Ronsor so jihad
17:19 Ronsor much dead
17:19 Ronsor wow bad
17:19 rubenwardy Both candidates suck, it's just up for debate which one sucks less
17:20 Ronsor ^
17:20 nolsen And that's trump.
17:20 T4im if the u.s. elects either of them, i won't be able to take them seriously anymore
17:20 T4im :D
17:20 Ronsor what choice is had?
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17:20 nolsen Ronsor: Hillary.
17:20 nolsen Hitlery*
17:21 rubenwardy Trump is the one that hates certain races and wants to build walls, just saying
17:21 nolsen rubenwardy: Well, we do need something about the mexico border.
17:21 nolsen tbh, we don't need a "huge wall", we just need a border.
17:21 nolsen or fences that actually do something.
17:21 T4im don't you already have one?
17:22 nolsen T4im: Not really, they just go through the holes in the fences.
17:22 T4im at least to the south
17:22 T4im not sure how your borders to canada look
17:22 T4im perhaps those could be improved
17:22 nolsen It's funny that muslims hate america, yet I am puzzled why are they are so desperate getting over here.
17:22 nolsen Like the illegal immigrants.
17:23 rubenwardy T4im, like this, I've heard: http://www.washingtonstarnews.com/wp-content/upl​oads/photo-gallery/US%20canada%20border%204.jpg
17:23 T4im ah, so european style
17:23 nolsen I don't recall jews trying to go Nazi Germany during WWII.
17:24 rubenwardy I've heard that other parts of the border are two parallel roads with a ditch between, and pay phones to call border/immigrate for permission to cross
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17:25 T4im perhaps canada should build one and make the u.s. pay for it :3
17:26 nolsen T4im: We don't illegal immigarte over there.
17:26 nolsen afaik
17:26 nolsen immigrate*
17:26 sfan5 trump for president
17:27 Krock make america derp again
17:27 nolsen Make america memes again.
17:27 nolsen Make america dank again.
17:27 sfan5 do you feel the bern?
17:27 nolsen Make hen...America great again.
17:28 nolsen *lenny face goes here*
17:28 Krock hen..?
17:28 nolsen *too lazy to pull up firefox*
17:28 nolsen *firefox is on my TV, playing anime :#*
17:28 nolsen :3*
17:28 Krock :3**   *
17:33 * Donald_J_Trump deports sfan5 back to the UK
17:33 Donald_J_Trump er, wait.
17:33 Donald_J_Trump I forgot.
17:33 Donald_J_Trump the UK left the EU.
17:33 Donald_J_Trump It's in space now.
17:33 Donald_J_Trump floating around between the earth and the moon.
17:33 T4im he's also not a ukanian
17:33 T4im so far i know
17:34 Jordach cheeki breeki
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17:35 Ronsor i made lightning dangerous
17:35 T4im :o
17:39 Donald_J_Trump #Make4chanGreatAgain
17:40 Jordach #MakeMinetestGreatAgain :^)
17:42 Donald_J_Trump Jordach: We will build a firewall, and make the unofficial clients pay for it.
17:42 Donald_J_Trump and low-end android device users.
17:42 Jordach http://niceme.me
17:42 Donald_J_Trump It will be renamed to "TrumpMine"
17:43 Donald_J_Trump Changes the mountains to statues of trump's face.
17:43 Donald_J_Trump Change the default skin to the "Poorly uneducated"
17:44 Volkj all names into Sadie
17:44 Donald_J_Trump Volkj: Only for Rosie O'donald.
17:45 thefamilygrog66 Drumpf
17:47 Billary_Clinton I did not have blockbuster and chill, with that women.
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18:02 Nosrick t
18:03 Nosrick Hey!
18:03 Billary_Clinton Nosrick: Welcome to Taco Bell.
18:03 Nosrick I'll have the ass-blaster special, please.
18:04 Billary_Clinton Nosrick: We don't have any food anymore, there is a wall built between the US and mexico.
18:04 Billary_Clinton er, I think I went too far.
18:04 Nosrick Hahaha
18:04 Nosrick No, you're fine.
18:04 Billary_Clinton Their food is terrible, anyways.
18:04 Nosrick I've never had it, to be honest.
18:05 Billary_Clinton Their meat tastes like Hillary Clinton's chance of winning the presidency.
18:05 Billary_Clinton Awful.
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18:05 Billary_Clinton Awful as in the person actually has a chance.
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18:52 Samson1 Does anyone have recommendations for Minetest docker images?
18:52 Samson1 (for a minetest server, to be clear)
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18:59 Ronsor no
18:59 Ronsor i'd suggest just making your own
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18:59 Ronsor it will be most up to date
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19:46 agrecascino Nosrick,
19:46 Nosrick Hello!
19:46 agrecascino crash
19:46 Nosrick Is it my fault?
19:46 agrecascino yes
19:46 Nosrick Fug
19:46 Nosrick When was the last time you updated?
19:46 agrecascino like a few hours ago
19:47 agrecascino ctcped you the traceback
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19:52 Nosrick Cheers, will look into it.
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20:16 aix https://sr.ht/WzRR.png
20:17 agrecascino Nosrick,
20:17 Nosrick Hello!
20:17 Nosrick Crash?
20:17 agrecascino no
20:17 agrecascino what does starfires do?
20:17 Nosrick Kills undead.
20:17 Nosrick And chaos)
20:17 Nosrick But there's no chaos yet.
20:19 Nosrick I want to include a manual of some kind.
20:20 agrecascino what does cloak of fear do
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20:32 MinetestBot [git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest_game: Add search on enter press to creative inventory 471d1cf https://git.io/v6hJr (2016-08-27T21:24:07+01:00)
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20:36 arecascino sorry
20:40 Billary_Clinton lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyqJhCpHLqw
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20:43 arecascino Billary_Clinton, what does this have to do with minetest
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20:43 Billary_Clinton arecascino: You must be new.
20:44 Billary_Clinton It doesn't have to be related to minetest.
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20:59 Nosrick Oh, Cloak of Fear makes mobs run away (only works on MoM mobs so far), and makes players blind for a few secons.
20:59 Nosrick seconds*
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21:06 Nosrick Actually, it might work on non-MoM mobs, now that I think about it.
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23:07 rubenwardy What's the best mod that supplies a code editor?
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23:54 rubenwardy Has anyone ever experimented with rotating players? Ie: so up is no longer (0,1,0)
23:54 rubenwardy What problems would there be if you rotated players? Would it just be collision selection boxes and ray casting?
23:55 rubenwardy I thinking of a gravity system, where you could have planets like moons etc
23:55 rubenwardy and it would be cool for puzzle games
23:58 rubenwardy oops, wrong channel
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