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00:30 cimbakahn If your going to play Hogwarts & More, do you still need minetest-mod-moreores & minetest-mod-worldedit & minetest-mod-moreblocks & minetest-mod-pipeworks  ?
00:35 cimbakahn It doesn't say so here ----> https://imgur.com/sCfAf4S
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01:28 Siva_Machina Hello
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01:28 Void7 hi
01:28 EvergreenTree hey everyone!
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02:21 silent_elk Thank you forums
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05:01 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: DB::loadBlock copy removal & DB backend cleanup 1434014 https://git.io/vrcwb (2016-05-17T06:52:16+02:00)
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05:57 MinetestBot [git] Jeija -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #270 from Emon-Omen/patch-1 75308f7 https://git.io/vrc6G (2016-05-17T07:53:35+02:00)
05:57 MinetestBot [git] Emon-Omen -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: fixed missing capital letter @ line 29 4786802 https://git.io/vrc6Z (2016-05-16T22:24:56+02:00)
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06:02 MinetestBot [git] cheapie -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Add protection support to Luacontrollers, 40487a6 https://git.io/vrc6a (2016-05-17T07:58:50+02:00)
06:09 thePalindrome Does anybody have a mapping utility that can work on a live leveldb world?
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08:24 Calinou let's mine the test until the test mines us, let's test the mine until the mine tests us!
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08:42 Derr I've never been good at tests
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08:44 Derr On that note, minetest should change it's name. it's just a poor play on 'minecraft' which does a disservice to the game. freeminer has a better name but inferior game play
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09:10 Calinou Proprietaryminer
09:14 sfan5 thePalindrome: doesn't minetestmapper work for that?
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10:20 thePalindrome minetestmapper won't operate on a live leveldb map
10:20 thePalindrome At least the numpy.py one won't
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10:22 sfan5 thePalindrome: https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper
10:22 thePalindrome That won't run on centos
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10:23 Calinou CentOS, the OS that is worth a cent
10:23 sfan5 why not
10:23 thePalindrome I'd have to compile it, which I can't do on a half gig of ram :P
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10:23 sfan5 sure you can
10:23 thePalindrome :hmm:
10:23 Calinou make a VM on your host PC, compile there
10:23 Calinou then send the binary to the server :)
10:24 thePalindrome heh, that'd take var longer
10:24 thePalindrome *far
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11:25 thePalindrome minetestmapper can't obtain the lock for the world, and dies as a result
11:29 sfan5 then that's a result of how leveldb works
11:30 thePalindrome So... there's no way to make a map using a live leveldb map?
11:30 sfan5 you can try copying the map.db stuff
11:30 sfan5 and manually removing the lock file from the copy
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11:32 thePalindrome I need something I can cron without using up any memory
11:32 thePalindrome I'm swapped half my ram just running the minetest server
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11:33 sfan5 we can't help you if you don't have enough memoty
11:33 sfan5 *memory
11:33 thePalindrome the worst part was, I switched to leveldb to use less memory
11:37 * thePalindrome is this close to hacking something to bypass the lock
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11:45 thePalindrome blech, never mind, no way I have enough ram to do semi-live map updates
11:45 thePalindrome later
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12:01 Birgit Hi ... what is the server I need to give my IRC-Client? Is it freenode.net?
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12:07 Birgit Okay ... well ... I'm searching for some informations about the possibility to install a Minetest-Server on an USB-Stick. I googled for it, but did not found anything!?
12:07 twoelk some servers are on InchraNet
12:08 twoelk irc://osiris.inchra.net/#minetest,#ve-servers
12:09 twoelk portable minetest for windows or linux?
12:10 Birgit we have at school Debian-Linux
12:12 twoelk you can use the oneline script here: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=42&t=3837
12:12 Calinou use the "portable" one
12:12 twoelk I just used it today with xubuntu
12:12 Calinou if you want to install it on an USB stick
12:13 twoelk and run the update script after installation if it fails to build the current version
12:13 Birgit Yes, I found th eportable version
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12:14 Birgit and I do need to call the command an the system where I want to use it? Because I have OpenSuse-Linux at home.
12:14 Birgit an->at
12:16 twoelk I have never plugged it into opensuse - but I can confirm the stick seems to work on several debian based systems
12:17 Birgit damn ... I'm not a superuser at the school system ... but I can try it out at home to create the stick and then test is in school.
12:17 MinetestBot [git] Wayward1 -> minetest/minetest: Add on_punchnode callback 8b940c0 https://git.io/vrCcO (2016-05-17T22:16:21+10:00)
12:18 Birgit thanks for you information ... I'll be back soon :-)
12:28 kahrl Birgit: maybe look into AppImage
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12:41 twoelk Birgit, bisst ja ganz schön fleißig http://wiki.minetest.net/Minetest_in_der_Schule
12:42 twoelk maybe add more links to allready existng wiki pages
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12:44 sfan5 twoelk: fix your encoding
12:44 twoelk pffff
12:45 sfan5 utf-8 is not hard :)
12:45 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Implement DatabaseException for databases 8ba6d9f https://git.io/vrC8K (2016-05-17T14:36:51+02:00)
12:45 * twoelk starts looking through the options of his client
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12:48 twoelk it says it uses utf-8, strange
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13:07 Preuk looks good for me, i'dsay it's utf-8
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13:12 Jeija http://i.imgur.com/ZtsDY0N.jpg
13:14 H-H-H i knew the world was round and theres the proof
13:14 * CWz doesn't know how to git merge
13:20 Jeija It's pretty cool together with MoonTest: http://i.imgur.com/4g7ptDf.jpg
13:20 H-H-H lol love the little luna lander
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13:35 PilzAdam Jeija, o/
13:35 Jeija Hi PilzAdam
13:37 sfan5 oh hey it's Jeija
13:42 Fixer hi Jeija
13:44 naltamur Hello
13:45 Jeija https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx8p3eU0meE
13:46 Jeija I always wanted to know what a block world on a sphere might be like
13:47 Fixer Jeija: lol, nice, btw, adding even more speed will make you orbit it :}
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13:52 Fixer oh, it is just a shader
13:53 Jeija Anything else is mathematically pretty impossible
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14:06 xunto >(04:46:39 PM) Jeija: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx8p3eU0meE
14:06 xunto lol, really cool. Are you going to pull it to minetest??
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14:16 Jeija xunto, I'm not planning to do that, it is far from complete or anything. But I invite anyone who is interested in working on the idea to do so, I published my code over here: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest/tree/sphere
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14:18 Fixer why not impossible? it is possible, just make it big enough, there must be different center of gravity though*
14:23 twoelk nope orthogonal and spheric geometry will always collide somewhere - not much you can do about that
14:24 xunto Make blocks be like \_/ instead of |_| :D
14:25 Fixer no
14:25 Fixer blocks are |_|
14:26 Fixer make it very big with radius of say 5000
14:26 Fixer and add proper gravity
14:27 Fixer or even 10 000
14:30 Fixer https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&t=7887 this
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14:37 Fixer just now generated a planet with 10000 blocks radius
14:37 Fixer so much win
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14:39 Fixer curvature is 1 vertical nodes for every 30 horizontal once
14:39 nrzkt https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&t=7887 seems interesting, why not having it with lighting fix specially to move sun over the earth ?
14:44 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/mIIyntX.png and https://i.imgur.com/n4axR2w.jpg
14:45 Fixer side of this planet
14:58 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/gjK4Feq.png lolol :)
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15:45 geomint hello guys
15:46 geomint i think that minetest settings could be much better
15:47 Calinou please set MSAA to 16x by default, my SLI of Titan Xs can handle it
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15:50 geomint anyone online?
15:50 sfan5 yes
15:51 geomint are you a developer?
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15:54 sfan5 why are you asking
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16:00 xunto >(06:47:39 PM) geomint: i think that minetest settings could be much better
16:00 xunto Write an issue to git. I think it can get lost here without being noticed by anyone.
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18:01 Fixer Calinou: sli titans?
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19:24 Fixer paramat: i like climbing huge multithousand mountains, one thing you can add is "pyramidal" world to it
19:24 Fixer shape of pyramind
19:24 Fixer pyramid*
19:24 Fixer with biomes and stuff
19:24 paramat i'm working on moonrealm again too
19:24 paramat interesting
19:25 Fixer paramat: i wonder if possible to make "gravity api" for minetest
19:25 Fixer paramat: that will be amazing for your mod
19:25 paramat difficult i think, but some say it's possible
19:25 Fixer paramat: but really, please add pyramidal kind of world shape, so I can happily climb it :)
19:25 paramat with just 6 directions of gravity
19:26 paramat pyramid would be easy to code in
19:26 paramat what steepness?
19:26 Fixer hold on
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19:27 Fixer paramat: this is quite good: https://www.google.com.ua/search?q=pyramid+with+s​ame+sides&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&a​mp;ved=0ahUKEwjO497N6-HMAhXMFywKHeTdC9IQ_AUIBygB&​amp;biw=1280&bih=822#imgrc=ArsKpTE85RbdNM%3A
19:27 Fixer paramat: configuarable steepness will be amazing
19:28 Fixer currently climbing this is too much extreme %) -> https://i.imgur.com/P1fujXj.png
19:28 Fixer (look down)
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19:29 paramat hehe
19:29 Fixer paramat: pyramid will have slopes and lowes as in other shapes, right? that will be cool
19:29 paramat you can swim up the water
19:29 Fixer thats what i do
19:30 Fixer just don't touch all that water and sand
19:30 paramat 'lowes'?
19:30 Fixer paramat: caves and stuff
19:30 Fixer paramat: small ridges
19:30 paramat yeah it would have same features
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19:31 paramat would a cone be better?
19:31 Fixer paramat: cone? i guess it is even better, more smoother
19:31 Fixer make cone :)
19:32 Fixer paramat: and add variable steepness to it, i will be happy
19:32 paramat i did at one point consider a mountain world
19:32 Fixer paramat: "variable steepness" = settings for changing steepness
19:32 paramat ok i'll consider it, it would be easy to add
19:32 Fixer thanks!
19:50 Fixer paramat: btw, i've also noticed those plants: https://i.imgur.com/BAS3gdj.png (side of the planet with radius 10000)
19:52 paramat plantlike drawtype is non-rotatable
19:52 Fixer ok
19:54 Fixer paramat: usual companion -> https://i.imgur.com/Ll3w8SP.png
19:54 Fixer paramat: i thought light in caves above was fixed
19:56 paramat might be because 'water level' is set to -31000
19:56 paramat hang on, it's because this is not core mapgen
19:57 paramat so doesn't use the overgeneration trick to prevent light
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20:17 * twoelk wonders if Mt-Meru will be worked on as well
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20:24 paramat that has a PR i'll probably merge
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20:28 Fixer i've climbed Meru without cheats
20:28 Fixer i'm insane?
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20:29 Megaf Heya
20:29 Fixer Hi Megaf
20:30 Fixer paramat: have you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx8p3eU0meE guess how he is done that?
20:33 twoelk my path up Mt.Meru on the old Landrush server still needs work  :-(
20:33 paramat yeah saw that video, it's just visual distortion
20:34 Fixer paramat: yeah, via shader
20:34 Fixer still cool
20:34 paramat plus re-adding another module at a distance to make it look round
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20:34 Fixer nice trick
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21:16 Danek hey people , is someone here?
21:17 Danek i want to ask if it is possible to disable snow biomes they ruin all my worlds '-'
21:18 PilzAdam how do they "ruin" your world?
21:19 Danek i have my summer world ... and 10 meters away its frozen ._.
21:19 PilzAdam comment out all these lines: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/b​lob/master/mods/default/mapgen.lua#L325-452
21:20 est31 it wont change an existing map though
21:20 Danek 1moment
21:20 Danek yeah i start a new one in 14.
21:21 PilzAdam est31, would it affect newly generated areas in an existing world?
21:21 Danek where can i find this datas adam?
21:21 paramat it might change an existing map, i think biomes are registered per session
21:21 PilzAdam Danek, in you minetest_game folder mods/default/mapgen.lua
21:22 est31 PilzAdam, I think it will, not too familiar though
21:22 red-001 isn't their a mapgen flag to disable snow biomes?
21:23 paramat oh what mapgen?
21:23 paramat mgv6?
21:23 Danek uhh dumb question but what do i need to open this?
21:23 xunto Danek: any text editor
21:23 paramat Danek this depends on the mapgen, mgv6?
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21:26 paramat in mgv6 there's a flag for snowbiomes, 'mgv6_spflags = nosnowbiomes' in .conf, or set that in advanced settings, that indeed won't affect existing worlds
21:26 paramat in all other mapgens do as pilz adam wrote
21:27 PilzAdam para mat is right
21:27 Danek i think i done it :0
21:28 Danek i want it in the new valley mapgen
21:31 Danek yeah it worked no snow thanks :D
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