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00:08 DoyleChris looking for a little help on the latest dev realease and picking up items
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00:10 DoyleChris I have the mod Item_tweak to pick up items when you walk by but with the latest dev version it dosent work
00:11 Fixer gn
00:11 DoyleChris any idea
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00:19 swift110 Ok I have minetest installed onto my raspberry pi 3
00:19 swift110 Now I want to install tutorial to it
00:19 swift110 .
00:19 swift110 also, on my android phone which minetest should I get?
00:27 electrodude512 swift110: use the one from http://www.minetest.net/downloads/
00:28 electrodude512 swift110: all of the ones on the Android Store are unofficial and they often come with extra junk
00:28 electrodude512 *Play Store
00:30 swift110 ok
00:32 swift110 is it available for ios?
00:35 rubenwardy Not true, electrodude512
00:35 rubenwardy The Nrz one is official
00:36 rubenwardy swift110, https://play.google.com/store/apps​/details?id=net.minetest.minetest
00:38 swift110 hmm
00:39 swift110 ok cool
00:39 swift110 i would love to play it on my ipad
00:42 swift110 ok doing the tutorial mod on my laptop
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00:45 KaadmY swift110: i think because of licensing issues regarding the iOS app store, Minetest can't be played on iOS
00:45 KaadmY correct me if i'm wrong
00:46 swift110 oh ok
00:47 swift110 i wouldnt be surprised actually
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01:57 cheapie Looks like VanessaE's creative server is up to 38 traffic lights...
01:58 cheapie 27 of which are owned by MineDOT (essentially me), and about 35 lights are running TrafficNeXt 3.
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02:18 swift110 anyone here play minetest on a pi
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02:56 bugzapper swift110:  I wouldn't say play, but I've tried it.  Veeeerrrrryyyyy slow.
02:57 bugzapper It may be faster when the new mesa vc4 driver stabilizes.
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03:21 swift110 lol
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03:26 botch Hello there!  (insert echos)
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04:15 DI3HARD139 Is there a way to communicate with the MT servers via a website to pull # of players and the status of that server
04:15 DI3HARD139 ?
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09:51 CWz how to add more pages to default:book?
09:54 Sokomine Fixer, cimbakahn: fire is bad :-) it ought to be disabled in most worlds. depending on how the current implementation works, forges and other buildings may no longer be fireproof. in order to avoid that problem, i've replaced lava in buildings with a safe variant that does not cause fire. the villages may still cut through lava-areas in some mapgens (notably volcanoes in ethereal) and thus cause fire. b
09:54 Sokomine ut then, fire is best disabled in ethereal anyway...
09:55 Sokomine fixer: if you're searching for a mod, use krocks search: http://krock-works.16mb.com/MTstuff/modSearch.php   it is well-hidden but useful. forget about forum search
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12:19 germanuel24 If a server displays the player names on the map as different colors the c++ engine was modified right? Or is there a way to do that via the API?
12:20 Calinou germanuel24: it is possible to change name tag colors with Lua API
12:20 Calinou this is a fairly recent feature
12:20 germanuel24 Wow, could you point me to the function?
12:22 germanuel24 Or do i need to edit the player.lua in default mod?
12:26 germanuel24 is it set_nametag_attributes(attributes)?
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13:18 germanuel24 Setting the name attributes on register_on_joinplayer() is enough? Like will it also display the color+text to players joining later?
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14:16 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Run updatepo.sh ae02d1e https://git.io/vwbc0 (2016-05-05T16:14:09+02:00)
14:16 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Update settings translation file and minetest.conf.example 063be8a https://git.io/vwbcu (2016-05-05T16:12:58+02:00)
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16:01 germanuel24 Are the new nametags server-side? I mean can also older clients display them?
16:13 sfan5 germanuel24: no they are not server-side
16:13 sfan5 that makes no sense
16:13 germanuel24 I just found out that the colors do display in older clients BUT the cutom text attribute doesn't (tested on Android)
16:13 germanuel24 custom*
16:14 germanuel24 sfan5, server-side means not able to manipulate..so in my opinion it would make sense
16:15 sfan5 nametags can't be server-side as the client somehow needs to display them
16:15 germanuel24 Okay but the server DOES send the colored tag to my older client version
16:16 germanuel24 So the server seems to tell the client how to display name xyz
16:17 germanuel24 I just wonder why my phone doesn't display the text attribute i set...my compiled version shows it fine...maybe the text attribute was added later than the colors?
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18:33 endev15 Any good references on noise params? (other than a course at Harvard Calinou)
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19:18 Fixer Krock, looks like some dude already found my farm on the ground >_>
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19:56 Krock Fixer, it's destroyed?
19:56 Fixer Krock, have not checked yet
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21:32 Fixer Krock, status?
21:33 Krock busy - watching an episode
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21:59 jerkey is minetest current?  I can't find anything newer than august
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22:00 jerkey and does it have sound?  an 11 year-old kid friend of mine is desperate for minecraft and I want to give him something FOSS instead
22:02 Krock sound? That exists since a long time
22:07 Calinou jerkey: we have sound since March 2012 :)
22:07 Calinou jerkey: try latest Git version of Minetest
22:07 Calinou you can find daily builds here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=42
22:07 Calinou for all platforms (almost)
22:07 Calinou if not, build from source
22:08 KaadmY Calinou: any idea how to finish Xibalba's boss, if you've played it?
22:08 Calinou what's that game? :D
22:09 KaadmY webgl fps http://phoboslab.org/xibalba/
22:09 KaadmY fun and really atmospheric, too :)
22:10 KaadmY as far as i can tell, the boss just laughs at you, no way to fin
22:10 KaadmY win*
22:11 Calinou To win, you must laugh at the boss, John Romero
22:11 Fixer misread phoboslab.org
22:11 KaadmY :D
22:12 jerkey Calinou: that's a huge list, can you recommend any links in particular?
22:13 Calinou jerkey: what operating system do you use?
22:15 jerkey well i'm running linux mint but i'm trying to help this 11yo kid to whom I gave a laptop, i can't remember if it was ubuntu or linux mint i put on theree
22:15 Calinou then you can use https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=42&t=3837
22:15 Calinou copy-paste in a terminal, enter sudo password when needed, wait a bit, enjoy
22:16 Fixer minetest has no much ambience sound, since users are probably deef anyway
22:17 Fixer basic things like wind and water flow
22:19 sofar that really needs client-side lua scripting to be efficient
22:19 Fixer i don't understand, why this crap is so heavy?
22:19 Fixer wtf?
22:19 jerkey thanks Calinou that looks good, i will try it when i get to his computer
22:19 Fixer why client can't play sounds itself?
22:20 jerkey actually i might have him open a reverse ssh tunnel so i can install it from remotely
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22:20 Fixer _all_ sounds are server-side ?
22:20 Calinou Fixer: client plays the sounds. but the sound playing requests come from the server
22:20 Calinou with the exception of local footsteps and digging sounds
22:20 Fixer why can't we make water flow and etc local?
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22:22 Fixer mt development is turned into zx spectrum kind of thing-development, to save cpu, because everything is crap blablabla
22:23 Fixer can't play simple sounds without "flying to Mars" i mean client-side lua, madness
22:25 sofar I actually have an idea
22:26 Fixer and it is slow in horrible way iirc, it is not using cpus efficiently, it means you can't just put it on some crazy "beowulf cluster"
22:26 Fixer and that lua OOM crap
22:26 Fixer on default mtg
22:26 Fixer walk 8 hours and it will die
22:26 Fixer with oom
22:27 Fixer not a lot of people can walk that much in it, but it is pretty tidy :/
22:27 Calinou <Fixer> why can't we make water flow and etc local?
22:27 Calinou it influences gameplay server-side
22:27 Calinou if you wanted to rewrite Minetest, feel free to, but right now it's by far the most complete FLOSS voxel game
22:29 Fixer Calinou, btw, why there are THREE minetest wikies, 2 forums, 3? official sites? minetest twitter account? holy shit
22:29 Fixer i will start forum topic on that
22:29 Calinou there is only 1 official forum
22:29 Calinou there are two wikis, one for users, one for developers, with each their own settings
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22:30 Calinou only 1 official site too
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22:32 Fixer wikis: http://c55.me/minetest2/wiki/doku.php?id=start , http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Minetest_Wiki , http://wiki.minetest.net/Main_Page
22:33 Fixer twitter: https://twitter.com/minetest_c55
22:33 Fixer lol, replays are funny
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22:34 Calinou minetest_c55 is not official
22:34 Calinou there is no official Twitter account actually :/
22:35 Fixer sites: http://minetest.com/ http://minetest.net/
22:35 rubenwardy Minetestcommune is the most "official". It's not official, but permission was got to make.
22:35 Fixer funily minetest.com forum was shutdown
22:35 rubenwardy minetest.com is dead
22:35 Fixer it was copy of .net one, but older
22:35 Calinou yeah, just looked into it, all images are broken
22:36 Calinou Fixer: it's not a copy, it's a different back-end and content
22:36 rubenwardy minetest.com isn't official anyway
22:37 sofar minetest.com? that's just a disaster website
22:37 sofar why are we not shutting it down and/or redirecting?
22:37 Calinou .com is a recipe for disaster :)
22:37 Calinou sofar: we don't control it
22:37 Calinou celeron55 could theoretically act on it, but it would be very hard
22:37 Fixer Calinou, some time ago I decided to visit minetest forum on tablet, went to minetest forum (via google), everything looked the same, but everything was out of date, this is crazy, i think it is down now
22:38 Fixer and then i looked at url, it was .com one :/
22:38 rubenwardy minetest.org?
22:40 Fixer wait
22:40 rubenwardy minetest.org is hosted by OldCoder
22:40 rubenwardy It's confusing
22:41 Fixer yes, it was http://forum.minetest.org/
22:42 Fixer now it is finally 404
22:42 Fixer two forums at the same time, thats crazy
22:42 Fixer that was jul 2015
22:42 Fixer and calinou said back then "It's a database backup."
22:43 rubenwardy it is a backup, but it should definitely use a different theme
22:43 Fixer and be hidden
22:48 KaadmY minetest.com is so full of ads
22:51 Fixer minetest.com, minetest.net, minetest.org, minetest.ry
22:51 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Stairs/default: Make sandstone(brick) groups consistent 8c3f96d https://git.io/vwNSQ (2016-05-05T23:46:53+01:00)
22:51 MinetestBot [git] fozolo -> minetest/minetest_game: Tnt: Fix bug in dropped item counting 8d3d558 https://git.io/vwNS7 (2016-05-05T23:46:10+01:00)
22:51 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Lower grass_side and snow_side textures de3adb5 https://git.io/vwNS5 (2016-05-05T23:42:10+01:00)
22:58 Fixer give me that smile with face and hands fast!
23:08 Fixer https://sites.google.com/sit​e/minetestservers/downloads
23:08 Fixer wonder who made this
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23:37 MinetestBot [git] MoNTE48 -> minetest/minetest: Android: Increase player_stepheight for thicker snow nodebox bb92547 https://git.io/vwNdO (2016-05-06T00:32:35+01:00)
23:37 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Lua_api.txt: Add warnings of l-system lighting bug a279426 https://git.io/vwNd3 (2016-05-06T00:29:16+01:00)
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