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Time Nick Message
00:00 Fixer nope
00:02 Fixer timeout 5
00:02 Fixer YEEES
00:02 Fixer ._.
00:02 Fixer worked
00:02 VanessaE ?
00:02 Fixer VanessaE, there is very nasty bug in minetest
00:03 Fixer VanessaE, slow server -> people die without reason -> loose all stuff
00:03 VanessaE Fixer: something about death-on-join?
00:03 asl97 VanessaE: timeout is a windows utility
00:03 Fixer yes
00:03 VanessaE oh that's no good.
00:03 VanessaE well bones is disabled on all my servers so at least the "lose all stuff" part isn't an issue
00:03 Fixer VanessaE, i'm close to finding exact commit that caused this
00:04 Fixer VanessaE, yeah, but on survival server people started to shitbrix
00:05 VanessaE I'll bet
00:05 Fixer imagine inv full of mese, diamond stuff, ... and it is gone forever (no bones $))
00:07 qwrwed Yep the schems work, thanks VanessaE
00:07 VanessaE cheers
00:08 Fixer !next
00:08 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
00:08 VanessaE meanwhile, I'm extracting that world tarball
00:08 VanessaE just to see if it indeed is broken on my end
00:13 Fixer one more test
00:14 VanessaE qwrwed: ok, extracted the tarball, moved the Survival_World-2015-12-15 dir to ~/.minetest/worlds, edited its world.mt to correct the gameid, launched MT and enabled dreambuilder modpack on that world, clicked "play".  Works.
00:14 VanessaE it put me right on MichaelEh's "center of the world" marker.
00:15 Fixer DONE
00:15 VanessaE (a glowglass block surrounded by white wool, next to a small farm)
00:15 Fixer regression commit identified
00:15 Fixer all glory to the hypnotoad
00:15 * VanessaE runs to the spawn area...
00:16 VanessaE (hope this is the right route :P )
00:17 VanessaE there it is.
00:18 VanessaE ok everything seems to be in place, save for some unknown nodes (missing a couple of technic components)
00:18 VanessaE qwrwed: I suggest it's something broken on your end. :)
00:18 qwrwed I have no idea what
00:18 VanessaE maybe a disk space issue
00:19 VanessaE or a broken version of leveldb
00:19 qwrwed Possibly
00:30 cimbakahn With worldedit ...  I thought if you had unified_inventory you didn't need to install inventory_plus??
00:31 VanessaE that is correct.
00:35 cimbakahn 2016-04-03 20:33:42: ERROR[Main]: mod "worldedit_gui" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "inventory_plus" "worldedit"
00:35 cimbakahn 2016-04-03 20:33:42: ERROR[Main]: mod "instabuild" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "worldedit"
00:35 cimbakahn 2016-04-03 20:33:42: ERROR[Main]: The following mods could not be found: "plants_lib" "signs_lib" "worldedit" "worldedit_commands" "worldedit_infinity"
00:35 VanessaE like I told you, you have some outdated stuff in there
00:35 cimbakahn I have almost replaced everything!
00:35 VanessaE I'm 99% sure worldedit doesn't require I+, and anything calling for plants_lib (can't tell from your list) is outdated for sure (as it's called biome_lib now)
00:36 cimbakahn With newer mods.
00:36 Fixer gn
00:37 VanessaE night fixer
00:37 VanessaE cimbakahn: something is still outdated.
00:38 cimbakahn Do i have the correct worldedit ----> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3112
00:39 VanessaE https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit
00:39 VanessaE note that worldedit_gui is already included with it
00:40 VanessaE so delete both and get just that one.
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01:20 cimbakahn Did you mean that anything in a world named plants_lib should be renamed to biome_lib now?
01:21 VanessaE I mean any mod that depends on plants_lib needs to be updated.
01:21 VanessaE plants_lib was renamed to biome_lib several months ago
01:21 VanessaE should be a matter of tweaking the relevant depend.txt entry
01:21 VanessaE (i.e. the change, from the perspective of the dependent mod, is trivial)
01:28 cimbakahn I thought since i have basically replaced all the MODS, that maybe it could be a WORLD with plants_lib that should be renamed to biome_lib ......  It was just a thought.
01:32 VanessaE nopr.
01:32 VanessaE nope*
01:33 VanessaE check your mods, figure out which one's depending on plants_lib, and either update it, fix it, or get rid of it :)
01:36 cimbakahn load_mod_biome_lib = true  &  load_mod_plants_lib = true  in all the world.mt files.
01:37 VanessaE no
01:37 VanessaE I mean find the MODS that depend on it
01:37 cimbakahn Ok.
01:37 VanessaE as in stuff you put in <minetestdir>/mods
01:38 VanessaE if you do an all-files search for the phrase "plants_lib" you will find it quickly.
01:38 cimbakahn I just don't know where to look next in the mods folder.
01:38 VanessaE just start going through your mods one at a time
01:39 VanessaE or do a text search on all .lua files in your <minetest>/mods tree
01:39 VanessaE one of them will turn up.
01:39 cimbakahn https://imgur.com/SKwgHEN
01:42 asl97 lol, catfish,  iirc, that only search indexed files, why not use grep?
01:43 VanessaE cimbakahn: that doesn't tell me anything really
01:44 asl97 something like `grep plants_lib -r /home/cimbakahn/.minetest/mods`
01:44 VanessaE I didn't get the impression that he used linux, but on second look that is Arch isn't it?
01:45 VanessaE hm, maybe not
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01:56 cimbakahn I have went through every single .lua file in the mods and none of them have plants_lib on the page.
01:58 VanessaE check all depends.txt also
01:59 VanessaE find which mod mentions plants_lib in its depends.txt
01:59 VanessaE then go look at the rest of that mod's code for references to it.
01:59 VanessaE if it's just mentioned in depends.txt, you can just change it to biome_lib there and probably it'll work fine after that
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02:00 VanessaE (but there's a VERY high probability that the code also references it, as it's kinda useless to depend on biome_lib/plants_lib and not use it :P )
02:00 VanessaE I left backward-compat code in biome_lib for those programs that still use functions bearing the "plants_lib:" name, so just changing the depends.txt entry SHOULD be enough to fix it.
02:01 VanessaE and when you do find the culprit, google around, find who wrote it, and let them know.
02:38 cimbakahn What about this description.txt The biome spawning and management library for Plantlife, Moretrees, Tiny Trees, and other mods that originally depended on plants_lib from the plantlife modpack.
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02:40 VanessaE nope.
02:40 VanessaE only depends.txt and perhaps function calls in some .lua matter
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03:39 turd heellp
03:40 turd can anyone tell em what contains spyware? My server has constant connection to kitsunemimi(dot)pw
03:41 turd and another to some isp in tamap USA
03:44 Fritigern It's your windows. Your Windows contains spyware.
03:44 turd using linux
03:44 turd ubuntu server
03:44 Fritigern Then I don;t know
03:45 Fritigern <= Kubuntu user
03:45 Dragonop kitsunemimi-dot-pw is sfan5's website
03:45 turd and the kitsunemi site has link to twitter accont sfan55 which is a dev i believe, unless a troll made\
03:46 Dragonop it's all good turd, without that you wouldn't be able to connect to the serverlist
03:46 turd what is the purpose of this connection? it's constant outgoing port 80, nothing to do with server list?
03:46 turd see thats what i thought "serverlist
03:47 Dragonop afaik, to update your server status in the serverlist, I think
03:47 Dragonop not sure who hosts what
03:48 turd i dont understand why it differnt ips
03:49 turd and i found sfan5 on forums but sfan55 there. so i though, ya know. similar name troll trick and maybe i got a bad mod installed
03:49 Dragonop Well you are all wrong, I guess
03:50 asl97 turd: where does it say sfan55 on that page?
03:51 asl97 all I see is the directory index
03:52 turd first dir, bottom
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03:54 turd i was just checking, i had problems with server and wanted verification. thanks
03:55 Dragonop np - good night
03:55 swift110-phone Sup
03:56 asl97 seem like it has the same ip as servers.minetest.net, although it is weird if it is really using kitsunemimi.pw to update the info on the serverlist
03:57 turd yeah, thats what netsat showed, not the ip. so the first thing i searched was that name, got a bunch of softcore anime lol
03:58 DI3HARD139 tampa, FL?
03:58 turd i though " oh my goodness, im the lucky host of some cartoon porn botnet.
03:58 DI3HARD139 lol
03:58 turd 1 sec i find that one
03:58 DI3HARD139 Whats the IP
03:58 DI3HARD139 ?
03:59 turd 72.31.60.206
04:00 asl97 that's different from what i got
04:00 turd outgoin 40k port range, no idea what it's for or pid
04:00 turd could be something ubuntu, i dunno. just those 2 are always connected. only have minetest installed
04:01 DI3HARD139 Thats a Bright House Networks IP address
04:01 turd yes, what the heck is it?
04:01 asl97 it should only connect to that website when building windows builds
04:01 DI3HARD139 Its a residential IP address
04:01 DI3HARD139 Could be a user.
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04:03 asl97 turd: you gotten that ip from an nslookup?
04:03 turd hmm, the netstat i used was -t - -n, and says "minus servers" so i thought users would be isolated, plus i havnt given server key to anyone and shows 0 users logged in
04:03 turd no netstat
04:05 DI3HARD139 http://kitsunemimi.pw/ is an HTTP server for MT related items. Kinda weird that its connected there.
04:05 asl97 the ip I gotten and one other source is 151.236.29.36
04:05 asl97 not 72.31.60.206
04:06 turd im thinking now he registered the dns but it expired?
04:06 DI3HARD139 151.236.29.36 is the IP for kitsunemimi.pw
04:06 DI3HARD139 weird
04:07 DI3HARD139 That or the server is broadcasting its external IP address instead of its Domain
04:07 turd and nice big japanese boob drawings is ya search it
04:07 DI3HARD139 Im not seeing what your talking about lol
04:07 asl97 turd: try an nslookup, your dns might be bad
04:09 turd asl97 it could be, im using opennic atm.
04:09 asl97 i am using opennic too :O
04:09 turd search kitsenemimi there's reddit sub,
04:10 asl97 i am pretty sure that is unrelated
04:10 turd im using same nic host thats i have before, been around a while and seems trusted
04:13 turd well thanks for help put me a ease, gonna go look some cartoon girls then watch walking dead
04:18 swift110-phone Lol
04:19 asl97 imo, ip being different is a big red flag
04:43 MinetestBot [git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest_game: Creative: Add myself in credits 9a6cb2d https://git.io/vVBxP (2016-04-04T05:39:29+01:00)
04:43 MinetestBot [git] sofar -> minetest/minetest_game: Flood snow with either lava or water. f4e77ed https://git.io/vVBxX (2016-04-04T05:39:23+01:00)
04:43 MinetestBot [git] tenplus1 -> minetest/minetest_game: Fix doors disappearing while underwater e38f69d https://git.io/vVBx1 (2016-04-04T05:39:16+01:00)
04:43 MinetestBot [git] sofar -> minetest/minetest_game: Beds: Check for buildable_to for bottom half 874b1ae https://git.io/vVBxM (2016-04-04T05:39:06+01:00)
04:43 greeter i like that first change the best :-)
04:49 DI3HARD139 lol
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06:14 cimbakahn I took all my worlds out of the game and saved them to the desktop.  I also deleted debug.txt & minetest.conf under /home/user/.minetest  I created a brand new world.  Now i am turning on 1 mod at a time to see what kind of messages i get in the new debug.txt the game generated for me.
06:16 cimbakahn With no mods ----> http://pastebin.com/1Ke4QwxP
06:16 VanessaE so far so good.
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06:18 cimbakahn With Minetest-WorldEdit mod ----> http://pastebin.com/c7iAvefP
06:19 VanessaE that's fine too.
06:20 VanessaE as long as you don't get any hard errors, or any warnings that say some mod can't be found (which would be a dependency issue), you're doing okay.
06:20 cimbakahn With Minetest-WorldEdit mod ----> 2016-04-04 02:04:43: WARNING[Main]: Field "maxwear" is deprecated; replace with uses=1/maxwear
06:20 cimbakahn 2016-04-04 02:04:43: WARNING[Main]: Field "maxwear" is deprecated; replace with uses=1/maxwear
06:20 cimbakahn 2016-04-04 02:04:43: WARNING[Main]: Field "maxwear" is deprecated; replace with uses=1/maxwear
06:20 VanessaE ignore those
06:20 cimbakahn ok
06:20 VanessaE they're non-fatal.
06:21 VanessaE you're only concerned with warnings of mods not being found.
06:21 VanessaE (or hard errors that cause a crash, of course)
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06:23 cimbakahn No messages with moreblocks.
06:26 cimbakahn No messages with moreores.
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06:29 cimbakahn New message with pipeworks ----> WARNING[Main]: Undeclared global variable "mesecon" accessed at /home/cimbakahn/.minetest/m​ods/pipeworks/devices.lua:6
06:31 VanessaE you can probably ignore that, but make sure you have the most up-to-date code
06:32 VanessaE ( https://github.com/minetest-mods/pipeworks )
06:38 cimbakahn I used the pipeworks you just sent and same thing ----> WARNING[Main]: Undeclared global variable "mesecon" accessed at /home/cimbakahn/.minetest/m​ods/pipeworks/devices.lua:6
06:38 cimbakahn I put in quartz mod and no messages.
06:44 cimbakahn After putting in technic i am getting 10 of these ----> WARNING[Main]: Field "noise_threshhold": Deprecated: new name is "noise_threshold".  And 1 of these ----> WARNING[Server]: Undeclared global variable "unified_inventory" accessed at ...etest/mods/technic/technic/m​achines/register/recipes.lua:54
06:46 VanessaE I think you can ignore those also.
06:46 cimbakahn That technic i get from here ----> https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic
06:46 cimbakahn got
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06:49 cimbakahn No messages after putting in carts.
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06:52 cimbakahn I just put in bobblocks and got this message ----> ERROR[Main]: mod "bobblocks" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "mesecons"  So i will turn on mesecons next.
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06:55 cimbakahn That message went away when i put in mesecons, and now i have a new message after putting in mesecons ----> WARNING[Main]: The core.digprop_* functions are obsolete and need to be replaced by item groups.
06:59 VanessaE remove the mod that spawned those messages
06:59 VanessaE that mod is too outdated to use anymore.
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06:59 VanessaE (maybe it's bobblocks, in which case your copy is outdated)
07:02 cimbakahn So if i remove bobblocks, should i also remove mesecons as well, because bobblocks asked for it?
07:03 VanessaE not yet.
07:03 VanessaE first you have to find the cause of the error and whether the mod in question - whether it's bobblocks or something else - has an updated version available
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07:07 cimbakahn Took out bobblocks and no messages.
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07:15 cimbakahn Put in homedecor_modpack and got new messages ----> WARNING[Main]: Not registering alias, item with same name is already defined: stairs:stair_tar -> building_blocks:stair_tar
07:15 cimbakahn WARNING[Main]: Not registering alias, item with same name is already defined: stairs:slab_tar -> building_blocks:slab_tar
07:15 cimbakahn WARNING[Main]: Not registering alias, item with same name is already defined: tar -> building_blocks:Tar
07:15 cimbakahn WARNING[Main]: Field "maxwear" is deprecated; replace with uses=1/maxwear
07:15 cimbakahn WARNING[Main]: Field "maxwear" is deprecated; replace with uses=1/maxwear
07:15 cimbakahn was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
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07:18 cimbakahn Sorry!  I guess i needed to use pastebin that time.
07:19 VanessaE just ignore warnings that don't explicitly say something about a mod not being found (or as you saw, about things being obsolete
07:19 VanessaE and don't paste into here, yeah
07:20 fling Hello!
07:33 VanessaE hi
07:33 cimbakahn I put in nether and got these new warnings ----> http://pastebin.com/ry1rvB1n
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07:35 VanessaE that mod needs updated at some point, but those warnings are harmless for nwo.
07:35 VanessaE for now*(
07:40 cimbakahn This message went away after putting in unified_inventory ----> WARNING[Server]: Undeclared global variable "unified_inventory" accessed at ...etest/mods/technic/technic/m​achines/register/recipes.lua:54
07:41 VanessaE that's fine.
07:41 VanessaE bbl
07:41 * VanessaE wanders off for a while.
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07:47 cimbakahn New messages after putting in plantlife_modpack ----> http://pastebin.com/0mcLPs9J
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07:50 cimbakahn All the previous messages from here ----> http://pastebin.com/0mcLPs9J went away after turning on biome_lib .
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07:54 cimbakahn put in moretrees and no new messages.
07:58 cimbakahn Put in instabuild and no new messages.
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08:07 cimbakahn So no problem with plants_lib or that signs one this time around.  After this i know where the plants_lib problem lies.  In each one of the previous worlds i removed and put on the desktop.
08:08 cimbakahn I need to remove this line from all the world.mt files in each world ----> load_mod_plants_lib = true
08:09 cimbakahn I just don't know what to do about that sign one now.
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08:12 cimbakahn Yes.  I just found the exact name of that sign one.  It is signs_lib .
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08:15 melzua oops sorry, wrong window :-/
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09:26 Preuk hello, i'm asserting wether minetest can stisfy my modding needs
09:26 Preuk read a couple of tutorials, API references, etc.
09:27 Preuk any pointer to a code sample for adding new craft types ? i mean like "cooking", etc?
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09:41 sfan5 " im the lucky host of some cartoon porn botnet."
09:41 sfan5 lel
09:46 sfan5 <turd> well thanks for help put me a ease, gonna go look some cartoon girls then watch walking dead
09:46 sfan5 i'm almost convinced thats a troll
09:52 sfan5 Preuk: cooking recipes are handled by the furnace code (https://github.com/minetest/minetest_gam​e/blob/master/mods/default/furnace.lua)
09:52 sfan5 if you want to add something similar
09:53 sfan5 just add something that uses similar code
09:53 sfan5 the main part is just ""local cooked, aftercooked = minetest.get_craft_result({method = "cooking", width = 1, items = srclist})"" to get craft results for "cooking"
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10:57 Preuk sfan5: so there i could add say a "thingy" recipe type and related blocs/formspecs to process it? there is no cooking-specific stuff in core?
10:59 sfan5 yes
10:59 sfan5 no cooking specific stuff in core
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11:16 Preuk that's pretty neat
11:17 Preuk couldn't see the point of yet another MC clone, but for education purpose, wow this is great
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11:22 Calinou Preuk, there aren't a lot of open source Minecraft clones actually
11:22 Calinou Terasology is the only other well-developed one I know, and it's much heavier
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11:31 Preuk Calinou: didn't realize it was free software until i saw android port on F-droid
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11:36 Calinou :p
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11:58 swift110-phone Im happy with minetest itself
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14:34 sfan5 !py tell.tell.__globals__["checktell"](phenny, next(filter(lambda e: setattr(e,"nick","VanessaE") or True,[BaseException()])))
14:34 MinetestBot VanessaE: Mar-22 11:16 UTC <JiroTheOne> Thanks for adding the skins, much appreciated. And thanks for the servers!
14:34 sfan5 !py tell.tell.__globals__["checktell"](phenny, next(filter(lambda e: setattr(e,"nick","VanessaE") or True,[BaseException()])))
14:34 MinetestBot VanessaE: Mar-22 11:19 UTC <JiroTheOne> Sorry to be a pain, skin for KatnixxEverdeen is borked please can you try this one http://www.planetminecraft.co​m/skin/katniss-skin-3220774/
14:34 MinetestBot None
14:34 MinetestBot None
14:34 VanessaE ?
14:34 sfan5 for you
14:34 sfan5 tell seems broken again and i havent fixed it yet
14:34 VanessaE already did that ages ago I think
14:34 * VanessaE clobbers MinetestBot with a dead hard drive.
14:35 VanessaE but thanks anyway :)
14:35 sfan5 !py tell.tell.__globals__["checktell"](phenny, next(filter(lambda e: setattr(e,"nick","nrzkt") or True,[BaseException()])))
14:35 MinetestBot nrzkt: Mar-31 16:28 UTC <kilbith> ne mets /surtout/ pas à jour GNOME 3.20 en testing (c'est dans les mirroirs), t'auras un écran noir et curseur clignotant au démarrage
14:35 H-H-H and then retrieve the parts fot preciouse metal salvage?
14:35 MinetestBot None
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15:15 * CWz thinks Office 365 is joke. and say HaHa
15:16 CWz I remember the days when you only had to by a product once
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15:57 Calinou I remember the days when you didn't even have to buy products
16:01 nm0i I remember the days when MS office crack were not kindly shipped with MS office.
16:03 Fixer I still live in those days >_>
16:09 nm0i Change your torrent tracker to one with good release groups involved.
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17:42 Megaf Hi all
17:44 Krock hii
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19:03 kaeza o/
19:07 rubenwardy hi kaeza
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19:14 Urist I have a question concerning the declaration of items in minetest. Do I only need to declare a craftitem together with a node, if the node drops an item that is not itself, for example with ores?
19:17 rubenwardy the ore is a separate craftitem, ye
19:17 rubenwardy *yes
19:20 Fixer o\
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19:22 Urist Ok, for a moment I though every item needed to be a craftitem and those that should be placed needed to be also a node
19:22 Urist Thanks
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22:08 kaeza yey
22:09 kaeza IRC mod actually works on Windows
22:09 kaeza needs some kludgery, but works \o/
22:10 VanessaE by definition, isn't windows *already* a kludge? :)
22:11 kaeza heh
22:11 kaadmy :D
22:11 VanessaE (especially lately, with that whole ubuntu-in-win10 thing that I've been seeing mention of)
22:12 kaeza you mean that Metro crap?
22:12 kaadmy which is afaik just a bash shell
22:12 rubenwardy bash in W10
22:12 VanessaE nah, this is something new
22:12 kaeza thankfully, I'm still on 7 :3
22:12 kaadmy waitwaitwaitnoautoupdateyet??
22:12 VanessaE supposed to be a full linux stack, ubuntu-alike
22:12 rubenwardy I prefer Windows 10's UI to Windows 7
22:12 kaadmy i prefer i3
22:12 rubenwardy but you should stick with W7 or linux
22:12 VanessaE allegedly recycled from their failed android-in-windows idea
22:12 rubenwardy Linux is still > Windows
22:13 VanessaE kaadmy: my i3 works pretty well :)
22:13 VanessaE except it ain't the same i3 as yours ;)
22:14 rubenwardy I have used ubuntu-based distros for about two years, and never had a problem except for when I installed mingw over the Linux .h files (my fault)
22:14 rubenwardy I used W10 for two weeks and had countless problems due to broken updates to drivers
22:15 kaeza oh I see... it just took them what... 20-30 years to admit that PowerShell/cmd.exe (or god forbid, COMMAND.COM) sucks?
22:15 kaadmy this is i3: http://data.crazyengineers.com/attachments/2​014-09-29-202952_3840x2160_scrot-png.17760/
22:16 kaadmy from a quick search, i3=car also?
22:16 kaeza been using MSYS bash the whole time. thanks, but no thanks
22:18 rubenwardy is also a processor, kaadmy XD
22:18 kaeza byyyyy the way, the IRC issue is solved by using a Lua DLL instead of static linking
22:18 kaadmy heh :D
22:18 kaadmy forgot it's also a processor ;)
22:18 VanessaE kaadmy: heh, mine's more like THIS i3, https://clonemaker3d.com/322-thickbo​x_default/kit-prusa-i3-hephestos.jpg
22:18 kaeza and linking both LuaSocket and Minetest to the same Lua DLL
22:19 VanessaE (though a different vendor/manufacturer)
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22:30 kaadmy and a 3d printer?
22:30 kaadmy i actually thought "i3" was a pretty unique name ;)
22:31 VanessaE yeah.
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23:09 Fixer it will support only console programs
23:09 Fixer and will be limited
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