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00:17 Tiktailk bluhhhh
00:17 Tiktailk i was making a minetest mod
00:17 Tiktailk but i sorta forgot :(
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03:11 Da_Red_Hood How do I fix this error?
03:11 Da_Red_Hood https://ghostbin.com/paste/c8wkb
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03:13 Da_Red_Hood Hey VanessaE got any idea how to fix this?
03:13 Da_Red_Hood https://ghostbin.com/paste/c8wkb
03:13 VanessaE sfan5 told you already
03:13 Da_Red_Hood I don't see that?
03:13 VanessaE [11-24 17:01] <sfan5> Da_Red_Hood: open env_args.txt and add a "EnvArgsEnd" line at the end
03:15 Da_Red_Hood Did that
03:15 Da_Red_Hood still not works
03:15 Da_Red_Hood *still not working
03:15 VanessaE not sure then
03:15 Da_Red_Hood Here's my config files
03:15 Da_Red_Hood also I already fixed that issue hours ago
03:16 Da_Red_Hood this time I downloaded more mods and this happened
03:16 Da_Red_Hood also this is my config
03:16 Da_Red_Hood https://ghostbin.com/paste/ed4db
03:17 VanessaE I got nothing man :)
03:17 Da_Red_Hood Well 3 people are yelling at me to get the server back up so...
03:17 Da_Red_Hood yeah
03:18 VanessaE brb
03:27 Da_Red_Hood I removed everything but CME and this happened VanessaE https://ghostbin.com/paste/2sum3
03:38 Da_Red_Hood Hey codehero got any idea how to fix this https://ghostbin.com/paste/2sum3
03:39 codehero i'm not a minetest dev. but you should try run it with gdb to get useful information
03:39 Da_Red_Hood It's vanilla minetest except with the creautres mod
03:39 Da_Red_Hood what's gdb?
03:40 ungali GNU debugger
03:45 codehero ^
03:45 codehero but now i guess you're not running linux
03:45 codehero so
03:45 codehero hm
03:45 Da_Red_Hood I am.
03:45 codehero oh
03:45 codehero nice
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03:46 Da_Red_Hood I got ddb
03:46 codehero yeah. then run with gdb
03:46 codehero or ddb perhaps
03:47 codehero if that's a thing
03:47 codehero ah. freebsd debugger. interesting
03:47 codehero well. i have to go
03:49 Da_Red_Hood I fixed it
03:49 Jookia With serverside mods, does Minetest download the entire mod (including readmes, etc?)
03:49 zat clang FTW!
03:49 Da_Red_Hood I was trying to start it as root and that's what messed it up
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10:05 Milan is there anything broken in the minetestforum?
10:05 Milan the latest posts in general > servers are from jun ~< 14?
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10:14 Milan all the threads i guess...
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10:38 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Shopping Reminder Day! 😃
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10:41 est31 I think I really have to go shopping now
10:42 JamesTait Mission accomplished?
10:44 Ingar no shopping
10:44 Ingar brussels is closed :D
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11:04 Jookia No OpenJDK on ARM
11:07 Jookia Wrong channel! Sorry
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12:35 Milan now it isnt possible to let trees grow under the earth?
12:35 Milan https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/com​mit/321bd6672113232817774670c9be89d22aecd956
12:40 Milan no - this commit i guess: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/com​mit/ef8b7e230d17b424749e0ce428720afa7ac4fe6d
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12:41 Milan hmm thats only moved - so why did the saplings didnt grow o.O
12:52 Milan ah, in the past it was lightlevel 11, now its 13 isnt it?
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13:06 Guest75821 Hi! Is there any way to smooth moving blocks from mod?
13:07 Guest75821 smooth move*
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13:40 Obani Guest75821, what do you mean ?
13:54 Calinou you can use entities to "smoothly" move stuff that looks like nodes
13:54 Calinou but nodes are limited to a grid
13:56 Guest75821 so I need convert nodes to entity and move it?
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14:15 TheWild Guest75821: for example a block being moved by piston. Block in its initial position is not moving, it is a node. When it is about to move, the node is removed and entity is created that imitates a block where the node was. Entity is given the proper velocity, so it looks like it is moving. After a calculated time, that is when entity should land, it is removed and the proper node is placed back in new position.
14:17 TheWild however, you have to ensure in some way that when block is moving, no player can place a node in cell the block is going to occupy. It can be done for example by registering special air-like node and use it as a reservation.
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14:18 Guest75821 I see. Thanks
14:20 TheWild no problem
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14:41 Milan is the dungeon_loot mod ready for production server?
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14:49 MinetestBot [git] kilbith -> BlockMen/minetest_next: Fix grass _5 inventory images and drop the ones from grass _1-4 9e9e9fc http://git.io/vBlon (2015-11-24T19:30:04+01:00)
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15:40 MinetestBot [git] LNJplus -> BlockMen/minetest_next: Drop items of digged chests fdd34cb http://git.io/vBlhq (2015-11-25T16:35:15+01:00)
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15:54 nrzkt https://pixelastic.github.io/pokemonorbigdata/
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16:38 FreeFull nrzkt: 83%
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17:15 who_wants_some fubar
17:21 who_wants_some jeez, ati radeon windows driver is 300mb, under what kind of weed they are coding?
17:22 who_wants_some driver from 2009 without control panel was 16 mb
17:24 who_wants_some 10x faster start up times!111 because .NET -> QT
17:24 who_wants_some and yet driver comes with dotnet 4.5 once againb
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17:31 DI3HARD139 Anyone heard of a segmentation fault
17:31 DI3HARD139 ?
17:32 Ingar isn't that the CPU exception where some pointer contains an invalid  virtual memory address?
17:34 Krock who_wants_some, stripped my ati driver down to a minimum of ~2 MiB
17:37 DI3HARD139 Not sure tbh. It just showed up a few mins after installing a mod that worked fine b4
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18:04 Obani rubenwardy, I'll need your help later to map with capture the flag
18:04 Obani for now afk
18:04 rubenwardy ok
18:04 rubenwardy I'm going out in 2 hours
18:06 rubenwardy active block modifiers took 362ms (longer than 200ms)
18:07 rubenwardy is there a way of telling which ones?
18:08 Calinou https://github.com/Veraball/ver​aball/releases/tag/v2015.11.25
18:08 Calinou first release of my game :)
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18:31 Obani rubenwardy, I want to put flags and bases to a specific position, is it possible ?
18:31 rubenwardy yes
18:31 rubenwardy 1 sec
18:31 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/capture​theflag/blob/master/minetest.conf#L27
18:31 rubenwardy it's a list of teams separated by ;
18:31 rubenwardy name,color,x,y,z
18:32 rubenwardy I'm currently making it so players can't place within 3 blocks of a flag
18:32 Obani Ok thanks
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18:38 rubenwardy !title https://github.com/rubenwardy/ctf_pvp_engine/c​ommit/0a4f30df25a96f250d4a994a7e101a9e3225c063
18:38 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Flag no build area · rubenwardy/ctf_pvp_engine@0a4f30d · GitHub
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18:40 Jordach everamzah, nice terminals bruh
18:40 Obani rubenwardy, can you try a local map ?
18:40 Obani with this ctf.match.teams = red, red, -41, 29, 56; blue, blue, -2, 4, -51
18:40 rubenwardy what do you mean?
18:41 Obani seed = capturetheflag
18:41 rubenwardy v6?
18:41 Obani and mgv7 parameter
18:41 Obani wait
18:42 Obani no in fact I didn't insert any 0.o
18:42 Obani so mgv7 and seed capturetheflag
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18:45 Obani rubenwardy ?
18:47 sfan5 Jordach: meow
18:47 Jordach sfan5, meow
18:49 sfan5 Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/6IICvvs.png
18:50 Jordach do you wanna build a SKYBLOCK
18:50 sfan5 idk
18:51 Jordach i should probably end this blender burst
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19:10 bark Good afternoon! I forgot my password to the forums, and pw reset doesn't work :( Can anyone help me out?
19:11 Krock Check out the spam folder
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19:14 bark It's nothing there either. I have tried numerous times over the past few weeks
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19:26 sfan5 bark: which account?
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19:31 bark account name is bark
19:51 Obani rubenwardy, are you there ?
19:53 rubenwardy here now
19:54 rubenwardy 1 sec
19:55 zat my nephew puts hundreds of carts in rails and the screen goes black, wtf.
19:57 rubenwardy Obani, I don't like how it's not immediately obvious which way to go
19:58 rubenwardy I can deploy it, and see if players like it or now, though
19:58 Obani rubenwardy, yes, so it would need some mapping, like buildings some ways, or something like this
19:58 Obani But here is the base seed I got and I really liked it
19:58 Obani As it also has natural limitations :D
19:58 Obani trees can be added manualy
19:59 rubenwardy Although it solves prematch time by making it so hard to go from one to the other
19:59 rubenwardy as in, you'd have to make a path
19:59 Obani lol
19:59 Obani rubenwardy, I thoght to some thing
20:00 Obani Someone talked about many chests at the beginning
20:00 rubenwardy as in, there should be chests near the flag?
20:00 Obani I thought that it would be good to add a little hunt that would be the "chest room" of the team
20:00 Obani (unbreakable, obviously)
20:02 rubenwardy the red flag is probably more protected than the blue
20:02 rubenwardy as in, blue is in the open next to water whereas red is in a cave
20:03 Obani rubenwardy, yes, but blue is lower than red
20:03 Obani with some map improvements to signal there is the red base there, it would be fair enough IMO
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20:04 Obani rubenwardy, also, as players team is randomized, I don't think it would really make disadvantages
20:04 rubenwardy How intensive would you make the map changes? Remember that this needs to be done by a mod at mapgen time
20:04 Obani Also, someone knowing better a team location would be advantaged
20:05 Obani rubenwardy, I would add little roads, trees as you said, and 3 or 4 little buildings (hunts/towers)
20:05 Obani And maybe lights in base caves
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20:07 Obani rubenwardy, do all chests put refill items ?
20:07 rubenwardy huh?
20:08 Obani If you put some chest on the map, will it refill items ?
20:08 rubenwardy The chests are spawned randomly on new match, and contain items randomly depending on probability
20:08 Obani Or does it only affect some "recorded" chests ?
20:08 rubenwardy no
20:08 Obani ok
20:08 rubenwardy when a new match starts, it deletes the map then mapgens
20:08 Obani Well I thought to something
20:08 rubenwardy so any changes you make won't persist - you have to add them to mapgen
20:08 Obani chests could be in bases
20:09 Obani And randomly generated chests could be lucky blocks
20:11 Obani nop ?
20:12 Obani rubenwardy, is the map reloaded after each game ?
20:12 rubenwardy yes
20:12 rubenwardy all the map is deleted
20:13 rubenwardy and then the map is regenerated from scratch
20:13 Obani Ok nice
20:13 Obani rubenwardy, is the glass barrier square ?
20:14 Obani cubic*
20:14 rubenwardy cube with no top or bottom
20:14 rubenwardy radius here: https://github.com/rubenwardy/capture​theflag/blob/master/minetest.conf#L6
20:17 rubenwardy terminate called after throwing an instance of 'InvalidPositionException'
20:17 rubenwardy what():  createSector(): pos. over limit
20:18 Obani rubenwardy, that's what I meant by cube
20:19 Obani Could add the bedrock mod ?
20:19 Obani And base on this mod to add a glass floor ?
20:19 Obani something like bedrock at -20
20:19 rubenwardy People won't dig that far in the time they have
20:19 rubenwardy oh
20:19 Obani rubenwardy, usebuggers like to see the limit of a game ;)
20:20 rubenwardy the map ends at -100 on the y axis, so they could
20:20 Obani THe main work of a debugger is to imagin what a user would want to do to troll the program
20:20 Obani And the glass floor, maybe +100 ? I'm refering to the map I showed you
20:21 Obani rubenwardy, afk
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21:10 * who_wants_some .oO(o_O)
21:13 E4xoi boost::variant!
21:13 E4xoi std::thread!
21:13 E4xoi RAII! std::unique_ptr! :D
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21:17 who_wants_some slowdown:everything
21:18 who_wants_some lag:stutter
21:18 E4xoi sup who_wants_some
21:18 who_wants_some laggy
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21:38 TheWild I got ERROR[Main]: Irrlicht: Switch to fullscreen: The graphics mode is not supported.
21:38 TheWild ^ while playing on fullscreen
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22:11 TheWild <who_wants_some> if we wanna grief we want to do it right
22:12 TheWild ^ there is yet one more: stealing torches from public mines
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22:25 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks
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22:27 Da_Red_Hood How do I update minetest on LMDE 2?
22:27 Da_Red_Hood I currently have 0.4.10
22:29 thefamilygrog66 Da_Red_Hood, I use ubuntu and just compile a new one each time
22:29 Da_Red_Hood How do I compile it?
22:30 Da_Red_Hood I have the source code but make isn't working
22:30 thefamilygrog66 I've been successful running the commands listed here: http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
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22:34 Da_Red_Hood CMake Error: The source directory "/home/user/games" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt.
22:34 Da_Red_Hood Specify --help for usage, or press the help button on the CMake GUI.
22:35 Da_Red_Hood Got any ideas how to fix that thefamilygrog66?
22:35 thefamilygrog66 Did you cd games/
22:35 Da_Red_Hood Yes
22:36 thefamilygrog66 and clone the git for minetest._game.git?
22:36 Da_Red_Hood Yes
22:36 Da_Red_Hood Here are the files in games done from ls
22:36 Da_Red_Hood minetest  minetest_game
22:37 thefamilygrog66 Yeah, that's normal
22:37 Da_Red_Hood I am running cmake in games/
22:37 thefamilygrog66 don't
22:37 Da_Red_Hood is that the right location?
22:37 thefamilygrog66 you need to cd ../
22:37 Da_Red_Hood oh okay
22:37 thefamilygrog66 cmake from the main directory
22:38 Da_Red_Hood cmake . -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 -DENABLE_REDIS=1
22:38 Da_Red_Hood CMake Error: The source directory "/home/user" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt.
22:38 Da_Red_Hood Specify --help for usage, or press the help button on the CMake GUI.
22:39 thefamilygrog66 you should be running cmake from /home/user/minetest
22:39 Da_Red_Hood ohhh
22:39 thefamilygrog66 and the games folder should also be within the minetest folder
22:39 Da_Red_Hood ohhh
22:39 Da_Red_Hood I fucked up then
22:40 thefamilygrog66 haha, it happens
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22:46 TheWild Minetest is really acting weird in performance. on singleplayer minetest_game it is somewhere between 35-50 FPS, Dreambuilder varies, 40-50 on ocean, 20-30 in forest (okay I know, leaves), sometimes random drop to 10 FPS. Dummy game with few only blocks registered gets 60 FPS with random drops to 45 FPS.
22:46 TheWild Now online, on one server I liked to play on it goes 20-40 FPS but has annoying random temporary drops to 5-10 FPS.
22:46 TheWild I've been playing on few other servers, and on two of them I got smooth 50-60 FPS.
22:46 TheWild What's more, on full viewing range it is about 30-60 FPS, still pretty playable.
22:46 RealBadAngel fps depends highly on the content
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