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00:37 xfceKris Has anyone used eclipse + koneki plugin to dev?
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02:40 grendal_prime dr-who mod?
02:40 grendal_prime the boy is dying for a dr-who mod
02:40 waressearcher2 dr what ?
02:41 grendal_prime doctor who
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02:50 waressearcher2 grendal_prime: you don't know either
02:51 grendal_prime the name of the doctor is who.
02:51 grendal_prime "who"
02:51 waressearcher2 who knows
02:53 waressearcher2 what disease he cures ?
02:55 waressearcher2 retardis
02:57 waressearcher2 its just 12:55pm monday and I have nothing to do
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03:03 grendal_prime right...the only link we can find is to a github project that does not exists  anymore
03:04 DI3HARD139 what are you looking for?
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03:19 Hisforever I use to have a mod that built houses audomaticly, by VanessaE dose any know where I cvan get it back?
03:21 VanessaE ...
03:21 VanessaE it is customary to wait for an answer.
03:21 swift110-phone Cool
03:21 swift110-phone How do u build a house
03:28 DI3HARD139 VanessaE: Can I get that mod??
03:28 VanessaE it's one of Sokomine's
03:28 VanessaE but I keep forgetting the name of it
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03:28 DI3HARD139 found it
03:29 DI3HARD139 would it happen to be "random_buildings"?
03:29 VanessaE that's the old one
03:29 VanessaE she's got something newer
03:29 DI3HARD139 mg_villages is the next one I see
03:30 DI3HARD139 and village_modern_houses
03:30 VanessaE villages, that's probably it
03:31 M_Angel is there a list of lighting  values somewhere?
03:32 DI3HARD139 1-15 or MAX if I recall
03:32 DI3HARD139 correctly
03:32 M_Angel yes I know that
03:33 M_Angel but I'm looking for lighting values of each block/item
03:33 DI3HARD139 Oh. Like default or effective values?
03:39 DI3HARD139 I never understood why you can have the dependencies but the mods are clueless in that there RIGHT FRIGGEN THERE!!
03:40 M_Angel I only found this old post about the topic https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5631
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04:13 grendal_prime DI3HARD139, Im looking for a doctor who map for my son ..hes crazy with doctor who right now...(mostly Rose but you know...)
04:17 DI3HARD139 grendal_prime: Only thing I could find was this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4730 and I'm sure this isnt the right "Dr Who"
04:18 grendal_prime yeah that's the right one but unfortunately the link is dead
04:21 DI3HARD139 This is why "I have quit minetest ... again. I am heavily unimpressed by both the game and the community." I know theres a link somewhere it just may take a bit of time to find
04:47 kahrl weird... I just noticed that I've worked on my "irrtum" project only in September: https://github.com/kahrl/irrtum/commits/master
04:47 kahrl September 2011, September 2013, September 2015
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04:53 M_Angel but that happens to all type of communities as they grow..
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05:15 exio4 kahrl: and on odd numbers
05:15 exio4 kahrl: must be some kind of curse!
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09:09 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Miniature Golf Day! 😃
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13:14 MinetestBot arsdragonfly: Arsdragonfly's testing Minetest server | arsenalmp.noip.me:30001 | Clients: 0/15, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 313ms
13:16 nrzkt !server AppleTree
13:16 MinetestBot nrzkt: AppleTree - Survival & Build | pts.epixel-game.net | Clients: 4/50, 3/6 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / epixel | Ping: 11ms
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13:17 sfan5 !server players:max
13:17 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
13:17 sfan5 !server players:most
13:17 MinetestBot sfan5: skyblock server | stormchaser3000.noip.me:30001 | Clients: 22/40, 23/39 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 111ms
13:32 waressearcher2 !servers
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13:36 MinetestBot STHGOM: OldCoder Wizard School | minetest.org:30025 | Clients: 0/32, 0/5 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / wizschool_game | Ping: 82ms
13:37 waressearcher2 !server
13:37 MinetestBot waressearcher2: NewScape | 5.196.39.169 | Clients: 0/15, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.13 / minetest | Ping: 5ms
13:38 STHGOM !server players:best
13:38 MinetestBot STHGOM: No results
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13:38 MinetestBot waressearcher2: No results
13:38 waressearcher2 does anyone knows what "culling" technique minetest uses ?
13:38 STHGOM !server players:good
13:38 MinetestBot STHGOM: No results
13:38 STHGOM no gooid players ;_;
13:40 brothersome waressearcher2, zlib with 1 block of 16x16x16 nodes?
13:44 waressearcher2 brothersome: is that your answere ?
13:45 waressearcher2 I mean is it "backface culling" or "occlusion" or "frustum" ?
13:45 waressearcher2 brothersome: why did you said "zlib" ?
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13:56 xfceKris Any tips on writing the .obj files for mesh nodes?
13:58 sfan5 "writing"?
13:58 sfan5 you usually export them from somewhere
13:59 sfan5 waressearcher2: he/she mistook culling for compression
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14:11 STHGOM xfceKris, blender is a good tool for exporting .obj, once you get the hang of it
14:11 * xfceKris goes hunting for a blender tut.
14:11 xfceKris sfan5: thanks for the correction. I'm still learning.lmao
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14:34 waressearcher2 its lua not lmao
14:39 xfceKris I wrote lmao...intentionally.
14:39 xfceKris Laughing My Ass Off
14:46 Teckla xfceKris: Does the "xfce" portion of your nick refer to the window manager?
14:46 xfceKris indeed Teckla
14:47 xfceKris Soon to be kdeKris If I can ever get fedora to download on my crappy connection
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14:58 ShadowNinja Latest KDE5 + Breeze dark = Awesome :-D
14:59 Teckla xfceKris: Ah, cool.  :)  Do you happen to know if Minetest runs under stock Xubuntu?  :)
14:59 Teckla (I don't like the Unity UI, nor do I even know if Minetest runs under Unity.)
15:00 xfceKris I'm running under stock now.
15:00 Teckla I thought Fedora defaulted to GNOME 3
15:00 Teckla xfceKris: Oh cool, thanks, that's helpful to know.
15:00 xfceKris Fedora is shipped with multiple different DE's.
15:01 xfceKris https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=42&t=3837
15:02 xfceKris Teckla: I used the run in place script to install.
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15:05 xfceKris it does not add an icon to your menu though, so you'll need to do that manually.
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15:07 xfceKris I used this command exo-desktop-item-edit -c ~/.local/share/applications/minetest.desktop
15:07 xfceKris but ymmv
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15:07 xfceKris opens a nice gui so you can point it to the .bin file, even add an icon if you want
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15:55 waressearcher2 its nice weekend ended everyone in place now
15:55 waressearcher2 I have a suggestion
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16:01 waressearcher2 how about instead of everyone doing their own stuff for minetest, to gather all needed to implement features, then have a poll on forum or something to vote for the most needed "features" or "bug fixes" and then all developers start to implement the most popular "feature" after they done with it they go to the next, that way the progress of
16:01 waressearcher2 minetest development will be muich faster, what do you think ?
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16:06 STHGOM sounds reasonable, what are the most needed features iyo?
16:06 Teckla waressearcher2: I think it would be better if Minetest developers prioritized my wish list!  :)
16:07 Teckla #1: Ability to disable night time on the client side  :)
16:09 xfceKris Teckla: as long as you are either a: playing singleplayer or b: run the server, you can just /time_speed 0 (I think that's right) and then set the time to any time during daylight hours.
16:10 xfceKris but setting the time to always daylight when playing on say...Xanadu. Never going to happen.
16:10 Teckla xfceKris: Ah, that's cool, thanks.  I didn't know about time_speed.  Though the use case I'm thinking of is making it permanently daytime client-side when connected to servers I don't run, which are creative servers.
16:11 Teckla But, yeah, I know a lot of people would consider that cheating.
16:11 xfceKris to change the time or speed of time on a server would be up to the admins.
16:11 xfceKris Or anyone with permissions on the server to do so really. Not necessarily an admin.
16:12 Teckla Yep.
16:13 Teckla I sadly accept that I won't get that feature ... unless I compile it in myself  ;)
16:13 est31 just ask the admins whether they can make it day
16:13 Teckla est31: Well, I *like* the day/night cycle, just not always.  Sometimes, you're in mega-creative-building mode, and just want to get on with it, without being hampered by night time.  ->
16:14 Teckla And, as I've discovered, admins are frequently absent!
16:14 est31 if its a creative server, perhaps ask the admins to give you the settime priv?
16:14 Teckla No matter though, I wasn't serious about the request!  :)
16:14 Teckla est31: Yeah, just waiting for Craig to me on IRC, hehe
16:14 Teckla As the admins will always make it day time when asked and if they are present
16:15 est31 the admins can also consider installing a bed mod
16:15 est31 then you only have to convince the other players on the server to go to bed and voila the morning is fast forwarded
16:16 Teckla yep
16:16 Teckla I'm still a little awestruck at how great Minetest and the Minetest community is.
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16:27 STHGOM i thing\ks he command is /set time_speed
16:27 STHGOM with 72 as default
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16:30 STHGOM think* the*
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17:03 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: lua_api.txt: fix typo 4f03f8d http://git.io/vnBrk (2015-09-21T18:10:05+02:00)
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17:09 xfceKris Thanks MinetestBot, I'll be sure to update immediately to fix that typo. Might be something critical
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17:10 * xfceKris actually does need to update.
17:10 * xfceKris is a few weeks behind on the releases
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17:21 RichardTheTurd hi rubenwardy
17:21 rubenwardy hi...
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17:25 waressearcher2 Teckla: "you're in mega-creative-building mode", aren't there servers just for creativity where there is always day ?
17:25 waressearcher2 !server creative
17:25 MinetestBot waressearcher2: Elektras UK Creative | nyje.e-it.gr | Clients: 1/15, 2/6 | Version: 0.4.13 / minetest | Ping: 7ms
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17:27 MinetestBot [git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Fix another typo in doc/world_format.txt d130c36 http://git.io/vnBD5 (2015-09-21T19:26:54+02:00)
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17:29 RichardTheTurd bbl
17:35 Calinou Stunt Rally 2.6 is out: http://stuntrally.tuxfamily.org/
17:36 xfceKris If I do drawtype = "mesh" do I need to define the tiles? or is that all handled by the .obj?
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17:45 xfceKris nvm I see how homedecor did it for things like the refrigerator. I'm sure it was probably an exported 3d isometric png from blender
18:00 Teckla waressearcher2: The server I play on is a creative server.  But night time is still a valuable feature.  Because some things look really great a night!  With lights and such.
18:01 Teckla waressearcher2: So I would certainly never want to disable the day/night cycle for everyone, even on creative servers!  That's why I'd like a *client side* option to force a particular time of day.
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18:02 Teckla But it is a small and unimportant wish.  There are much more important things to work on!
18:02 Calinou display_gamma = 1.0
18:02 Calinou there it is, your whole world brighter
18:03 Calinou not as powerful as r_intensity 100 in Quake 3 but still :D
18:04 Teckla Calinou: Heh!
18:05 Teckla Once I inherit my daughter's old computer and get Linux on there, I might try to build Minetest from source, and add that feature myself  :)
18:05 Teckla However, I've never been good at C++, so it might be a challenge
18:05 Teckla I'm very good at C (...I think?...) so I might be able to get around the source a little
18:06 Calinou Minetest source is:
18:06 Calinou - a bit tricky
18:06 Calinou - fairly C++-style, but not too C++-style
18:06 Calinou - definitely not C-style (like Cube 2 is)
18:07 est31 Calinou, so you say you understand cube2 source better?
18:07 Calinou not really
18:07 Calinou I read it quite a lot, but still find it very cryptic
18:07 est31 <Calinou> - a bit tricky
18:08 Calinou est31, Minetest source lacks consistency, and could use a few more comments
18:08 Calinou but that's because it has lots of contributors
18:08 Calinou and one day, hmmmm got tired of saying "hey, you forgot a space here" :p
18:09 est31 a large number of contributors means that they all at least sort of understand what they do
18:10 est31 I really wonder whether luajit manages that mike pall stopped contributing : https://github.com/LuaJIT/LuaJIT
18:10 Calinou LuaJIT will probably die some day, judging how it'll never implement 5.2/5.3 features
18:10 Calinou or will be forked
18:10 Calinou inb4 LuaJIT++
18:11 est31 lol
18:12 est31 minetest development did slow down from what I can see since c55 stopped contributing, but we still add features or make larger changes every now and then
18:13 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Replace "self program" with "this program" in fstk boilerplates 1adc7bf http://git.io/vnReB (2015-09-21T20:05:17+02:00)
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18:24 hmmmm yeah but celeron was a machine when he did develop minetest
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18:24 hmmmm I have no idea how it's possible to pack that much productivity into each day
18:25 hmmmm probably because he had a clear direction in mind and knew exactly what next thing is needed and had no code review requirements
18:25 est31 yup fully agree
18:25 hmmmm then again, compared to most other developers, i'm not too prolific
18:26 hmmmm i take my time when writing things... maybe a little too much time
18:26 hmmmm i've got problems man
18:36 Teckla hmmmm: I take a lot of time to write software too, but my bug count is substantially lower than my peers
18:36 * Teckla puffs out chest!  ;)
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19:15 cisoun Hey ! Is that normal that fire is spreading very slowly ?
19:16 rubenwardy yes
19:16 rubenwardy it's been tamed
19:16 est31 it has been made normal
19:16 cisoun Ow...
19:16 cisoun Time to hack then.
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19:17 cisoun (I've got too much leaves to destroy.)
19:18 est31 leafdecay has been tamed almost as well
19:18 est31 "tamed"
19:19 est31 perhaps I get around speeding up ABMs one day
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19:28 Calinou hey cisoun, long time no see
19:28 cisoun hey o/
19:29 cisoun I'm trying to play at Minetest again. I've got less freezes now.
19:29 rubenwardy I was thinking that
19:29 cisoun I will finally work on my new textures. Even if I already did some since 2013/2014.
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19:36 swift110 hey all
19:39 Krock hi
19:40 swift110 how are you krock
19:40 Krock fine! Found a great, new server to play on :)
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20:03 waressearcher2 Teckla: you can first build a dome around your creation put hundreds of torches to illuminate it and then build inside that dome and then remove the dome when your creation is ready
20:04 Teckla waressearcher2: Yep.
20:04 swift110 good
20:05 swift110 How do I build a house in minetest
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20:08 Krock THANK YOU, server list!
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20:09 waressearcher2 so you are saying celeron55 do not code for minetest anymore ?
20:09 Krock also thanks to my lovely enter key that automatically presses when something was entered int he input field.
20:09 Calinou waressearcher2, he really does not
20:10 VanessaE not for a long time.
20:17 xfceKris yet it's still commonly called minetest-c55..lol
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20:20 waressearcher2 why is he in minetest-dev ?
20:20 waressearcher2 channel
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20:20 VanessaE he still contributes from time to time - discussion, ideas, sometimes code.
20:23 waressearcher2 how nice of him
20:23 VanessaE most of the work is done by the other devs, and that usually works out just fine.  c55 has other stuff on his plate these days.
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20:37 est31 some code has changed since his days, but the ideas and the architecture is still the same
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21:46 OldCoder ?
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21:53 jojoa1997 hi OldCoder
21:53 OldCoder jojoa helloa
21:53 * OldCoder wonders if he has used that before
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21:53 OldCoder jojoa helloloa ?
21:53 OldCoder Hm
21:53 jojoa1997 hehe
21:54 jojoa1997 i like that
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22:39 sloantothebone Hi
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22:47 waressearcher2 what do you think if that "seed of andromeda" project ?
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23:39 waressearcher2 on a creative server when one builds anyone builds can destroy his creation ? or every node has an owner ?
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23:43 STHGOM look for protection mod

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