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02:43 LandMine OldCoder are you available
02:43 OldCoder LandMine, yes
02:44 LandMine awesome
02:59 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Change to 'pixelbox2' long grass textures by Gambit 86dab90 http://git.io/v3NFj (2015-08-17T03:58:34+01:00)
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04:31 OldCoder Hm
04:31 OldCoder Quiet today!
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07:35 swift110-phone Hey
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07:50 OldCoder Essentially nobody has talked for 11 hours
07:50 OldCoder Odd
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08:43 CWz question, how many fnaf talk in them
08:44 CWz VanessaE's server is littered with Freddy Fazbear pizzerias and everyone pretending to be a fnafer
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11:42 memehopper u cannot stopper the memehopper
11:42 memehopper more ductile than copper
11:42 memehopper the memes ooze out as if from a dropper
11:46 H-H-H can add to ignore list tho
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13:42 xfceKris VanessaE I have a question about your basic plus server
13:43 VanessaE hm?
13:45 VanessaE zzzz
13:47 Glorfindel you answered to quick
13:47 VanessaE heh
13:47 Glorfindel he'll be back in an hour
13:47 xfceKris Dang, that was fast.
13:47 xfceKris Sorry, I multitask a lot.
13:47 VanessaE I just happened to be looking at the IRC window :)
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13:48 xfceKris So...how do I modify my protected area to cover where I've built outside of it?
13:48 VanessaE I... have no idea :)
13:48 VanessaE it's the areas mod that I use
13:48 xfceKris Wow...well, that's a very informative answer...I'll turn to google.
13:48 xfceKris Thanks.haha
13:48 VanessaE lemme look it up
13:49 xfceKris Also, how do I change font colors of wording on a sign.
13:49 VanessaE use a # and a number of letter, 0-9/a-f
13:49 VanessaE the follow the color scheme you see at the bottom of the formspec
13:49 jojoa1997 Morning yall
13:50 xfceKris cool, thanks.
13:50 VanessaE xfceKris: ok I think you need to select the new coordinates for your area, and do  /move_area <ID>
13:50 VanessaE and that ID will be resized to the new coords
13:50 xfceKris How to select coords?
13:50 VanessaE with /area_pos1 and /area_pos2
13:51 VanessaE at the new corners
13:51 VanessaE or  /area_pos set  and then you can punch the corners.
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13:51 xfceKris sweet. almost like worldedit
13:51 Donillo Calinou: hi
13:51 Calinou hi
13:52 Donillo areas mod is same as protector when it comes to security?
13:52 VanessaE I assume so
13:52 VanessaE most protection mods by now I would hope use the engine's protection feature
13:57 xfceKris VanessaE I'm missing the areas priv.
13:58 VanessaE you shouldn't need that?
13:58 VanessaE odd.
13:58 VanessaE well just delete your area and re-create it at a larger size
13:58 xfceKris I can set the positions, but can't move my area
13:58 VanessaE Tesseract: ^^^^
13:59 xfceKris so ... /delete_area <ID>?
13:59 VanessaE /remove_area <ID>
13:59 xfceKris ah.
14:00 xfceKris Shoot. command to own area
14:00 xfceKris forgot.
14:00 VanessaE /protect <description>
14:01 xfceKris ah
14:01 xfceKris thanks
14:01 xfceKris again
14:01 VanessaE np
14:02 xfceKris shit...I forgot that I was sharing the area with someone, Now the area only belongs to that person and I can't do anything to it....
14:02 xfceKris crap
14:02 xfceKris crap crap crap crap crap
14:02 xfceKris ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
14:02 VanessaE what area number?
14:03 VanessaE (theirs, not your former)
14:04 xfceKris 4444
14:05 VanessaE try it now
14:05 xfceKris thanks....again
14:05 xfceKris lol
14:05 VanessaE yw
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14:06 xfceKris area protected...awesome
14:06 xfceKris I really do need to study up more on things like this.
14:06 VanessaE I think you'll want to re-add the other guy :)
14:06 xfceKris So I can stop begging for help every time I turn around.
14:06 VanessaE /add_owner <your ID> <their name> <their description>
14:06 xfceKris hehehehe....maybe not.
14:07 xfceKris He didn't help build it.
14:07 VanessaE ok
14:07 xfceKris All he did was store like ten locked chests there...In the way of building progress...:P
14:07 xfceKris jk
14:07 xfceKris I'll ad him back, because I'm a nice guy.
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15:01 STHGOM are particles lighter than entities resource-wise?
15:05 Calinou STHGOM, they are definitely lighter for server load
15:05 Calinou since the server does not simulate them
15:05 Calinou only clients do
15:06 zupoman hi
15:06 STHGOM ah
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15:08 Zupoman HI Tux[Qyou]
15:09 STHGOM so i suppose if the clients are simulating the particles, you wouldn't be able to do anything fancy with them. (like detecting collision) (?)
15:09 STHGOM helli Zupoman
15:09 Zupoman guys
15:09 Zupoman i installed Minetest a day ago
15:10 Zupoman was satisfied that it was far better performant than Minecraft
15:10 Zupoman there is not a lot of things by default, so downloaded a bunch of mods
15:10 Zupoman especially: mobs
15:11 Zupoman i was strongly dissatisfied with them
15:11 Calinou hi Zupoman
15:11 Calinou long time no see
15:11 Calinou did you try Carbone Mobs?
15:11 Calinou it's the Least Worst Mobs Mod(tm)
15:11 Zupoman yes, i tried Carbone
15:11 Zupoman there was no recoil, no death animation
15:12 Calinou death anim isn't trivial to make given the current engine possibilities
15:12 Calinou knockback is possible, I just didn't add it
15:12 Calinou (I'd rather have temporary stopping like in Quake, rather than unrealistic knockback)
15:12 Calinou in Quake, when you hit a monster, it temporarily can't move
15:12 Zupoman but that's Quake
15:12 Calinou (and can't attack)
15:13 Calinou Minecraft decided to make it silly, and everyone wants to do like Minecraft now :(
15:13 Zupoman it's called the pain state
15:13 Zupoman yes, that made you not have to move back all the time
15:13 Calinou makes fighting in caves too easy
15:14 Zupoman not if you get attacked from two sides by fast monsters
15:14 STHGOM rnds lab (offline now, iirc) had some of the best mobs ive seen
15:14 Zupoman also, no recoil? Why not, but it could be for example a property of only some monsters
15:15 Zupoman hitting the monster didn't feel like hitting
15:15 Zupoman also, Quake is a game where you mostly use ranged weapons
15:16 Calinou let's add guns to Minetest ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
15:16 Calinou people wanted them so much in Minecraft
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15:16 Zupoman also, maybe i missed something
15:16 Zupoman but how do i hide all this debug text?
15:16 Calinou F5
15:17 Zupoman oooh
15:17 Zupoman about Carbon and some other subgame
15:17 Zupoman they seem to add some custom bars
15:17 Zupoman one mod adds sprint bar or whatever is it, and other adds different health bar
15:18 Calinou yes in Carbone NG there is sprinting
15:18 Zupoman both bars were terribly misaligned at me
15:18 Calinou a much needed feature IMO, since you can't strafejump :)
15:18 Calinou screenshot?
15:18 Calinou they look horrible on mobile devices, that's known
15:18 Zupoman (or maybe it's intentional?)
15:18 Zupoman i'm on Linux, by the way
15:18 Zupoman sure, i'll give one
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15:20 Zupoman oh, i seee
15:20 Zupoman they just don't have some proper scaling
15:21 Zupoman when i resized the window, the bar in Carbone fixed itself
15:21 Zupoman in Big Freaking Big the sprint bar seems a bit too away from the edge of the screen though
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15:23 STHGOM knockback makes for interestingly timed fights
15:24 STHGOM should*
15:24 STHGOM i have a few more questions, are you done? :)
15:33 STHGOM i guess that is a "yes". my questions are: 1: are you able to add/remove more/less clouds? 2: would it be possible to make it when you lose all "hp", you become unconscious, instead of dead
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15:35 STHGOM and having another thing define whether a player is "dead" or not
15:37 johnwayne1986 hey, STHGOM, in the game magichet you become a ghost, when dying. It is "not easy to kill" and has more special stuff going on. So I guess it is possible somehow.
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15:38 STHGOM k, where would the code be?
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15:46 johnwayne1986 This is the forum thread, with link to the repo https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=10507
15:47 johnwayne1986 however, he modified a lot of stuff and i am not sure, if it is easy to find... good luck!
15:48 Zupoman can you explain to me, why a part of the functions in Minetest API uses this_kind_of_naming_notation, and the other part uses thiskindofnamingnotation?
15:48 Zupoman getpos(), but get_hp()
15:50 SylvieLorxu Maybe the Minetest devs come from the lands of PHP?
15:50 SylvieLorxu I'd consider that a bug, though. Should probably file a bug report for it
15:50 STHGOM BUG: devs come from the lands of PHP
15:51 sfan5 >PHP
15:51 SylvieLorxu sfan5: PHP has the exact same inconsistency issue
15:51 sfan5 i didn't read the scrollback
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15:53 STHGOM johnwayne1986, thanks, ill check it out
15:54 johnwayne1986 yw
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16:18 freaj Hi everybody, do any of you know how to cook dirt in a furnace? :P
16:18 freaj I mean, what else do I need?
16:20 freaj Nevermind, I found out: wood!
16:20 freaj Thank you anyway!
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16:20 Donillo cooking? dirt?
16:29 VanessaE skyblock.
16:29 Krock lolwat
16:29 VanessaE cook dirt --> cobble
16:30 Krock I'd expect sand as a result
16:30 VanessaE nope, that comes from crafting gravel  :)
16:30 Krock Crafting gravel is possible? Uh
16:31 VanessaE I think the path is dirt cook-> cobble cook-> stone, or cobble craft-> gravel craft -> sand
16:31 VanessaE (and you can directly craft dirt into clay, also)
16:31 * CWz doesn't like skybox on server because  it's to hard and player are annoying and attacksive
16:32 CWz ^ is wuss
16:32 CWz that wasn't very nice CWz
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16:51 Krock no more error 404 :)
16:53 johnwayne1986 STHGOM: I just randomly noticed that in Server::spawnParticle there is a parameter 'bool collisiondetection', but i am not sure if that could help you.
16:57 STHGOM nah
16:58 STHGOM i want to know if a player is being rained on
17:03 Donillo STHGOM: acidic rain? :)
17:04 VanessaE CWz: skyblock is "hard"?  wimp. :)
17:06 STHGOM nah, just to figure out how "wet" the player should be
17:07 Donillo can't you just decide if sky is seen?
17:08 Donillo I don't know much about MT, but IMO checking that should be cheaper than checks for individual drops
17:08 Donillo :)
17:10 * CWz zaps VanessaE
17:11 STHGOM i guess i could check to see if anything is directly above the player
17:13 VanessaE there's no function for that if particles are involved.
17:13 VanessaE you'll have to check whatever variables, noise, etc is used to decide if the particles should be spawned
17:13 VanessaE use that to decide if you're getting wet.
17:13 VanessaE maybe a counter every time you check, to decide just *how* wet.
17:16 STHGOM anything: any nodes
17:19 STHGOM so whenever its raining and there is no node directly above the player, the player gets we
17:19 STHGOM wet*
17:19 VanessaE might not be entirely reliable but better than nothing
17:19 VanessaE I'd check the drawtype of the node also
17:19 VanessaE if it's not one of the various solid block types, let the player get wet then too
17:20 VanessaE (treat slabs and stairs as solid, though)
17:21 STHGOM k
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18:27 STHGOM is there any way to lower he brightness of the sun and/or add more clouds to the sky?
18:27 Krock 42
18:27 Krock or just edit the client's code
18:28 STHGOM 42?
18:28 Krock "The number has received considerable attention in popular culture resulting from its central appearance in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy as the "Answer to The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything"." - Wikipedia
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18:30 Krock STHGOM, TL;DR version: 42 is the answer to everything
18:31 STHGOM hum
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18:37 STHGOM the day/night stuff is all built in? no way to change or add to it?
18:38 Krock everything you can change is the day/night ratio with the lua functions
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19:11 freelikegnu justthegirl: did you happen to try $ minetestserver --world myworld --gameid minetest_game
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19:31 Calinou rubenwardy, hey, I see you forked my mwc repo 30 seconds ago
19:32 Calinou :)
19:32 rubenwardy lol
19:32 rubenwardy creep
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19:41 Donillo Calinou: I've spotted issue with moreblocks mod
19:41 Donillo minetest.register_craft({
19:41 Donillo output = "default:wood",
19:41 Donillo recipe = {
19:41 Donillo {"default:stick", "default:stick"},
19:41 Donillo {"default:stick", "default:stick"},
19:41 Donillo was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
19:42 nrzkt xD
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19:42 Donillo pardon
19:42 Donillo anyway, crafting.lua, line 23
19:44 Donillo this craft takes over building_blocks:sticks from homedecor, rendering some recipes inaccessible. Also, it allows making kinda weird things with plantslive modpack (giant ferns -> sticks -> planks)
19:44 Donillo !last --from Calinou
19:44 freelikegnu wood from sticks.... hmmm
19:45 freelikegnu would you prefer requiring group:sticks instead?
19:45 freelikegnu you use and combo of sticks to get the default wood?
19:45 Donillo well, I suggest removing recipe for wood from four sticks
19:45 Donillo and homedecor uses group
19:45 freelikegnu \and\any
19:45 Calinou such stuff should go to its own mod, I agree
19:46 Calinou will remove it soon, and make a dedicated mod for it probably
19:46 Donillo okay, thank you :)
19:47 rubenwardy Calinou, https://github.com/Calinou/mwc/pull/1
19:49 Calinou http://calinou.github.io/mwc/
19:49 Calinou the changes are merged, and up
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19:53 rubenwardy thanks
19:54 rubenwardy seen https://github.com/Calinou/mwc/issues/2 ?
19:54 freelikegnu is the world depth as near-infinite as world height?
19:56 Calinou images are all 1920x1080, need to make thumbnails
19:56 Calinou freelikegnu, yes, it's 62000^3 in all dimensions
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19:58 rubenwardy You could save an average of 94% on edge picture. That's 1.8 MB in total ;P
19:58 rubenwardy *etch
19:58 rubenwardy *each
19:58 rubenwardy But yeah, WIP
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20:43 Donillo VanessaE: coconut milk repairs tool
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21:01 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: New stone brick and desert stone brick textures b240499 http://git.io/vse2b (2015-08-17T21:59:43+01:00)
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21:17 rubenwardy cornernote: https://github.com/cornerno​te/minetest-bower/issues/23
21:20 VanessaE Donillo: I know.
21:20 VanessaE at the time that was written, there was no way to preserve the tool wear
21:20 VanessaE not sure if that's still the case.
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21:36 hmmmm just FYI
21:37 hmmmm doing a C to Lua call is 13.3x slower than doing multiple calls from within Lua
21:37 hmmmm consider this when designing APIs.
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22:45 kmk how do i make minetest fullscreen in windows
22:46 kmk hello anyone
22:47 H-H-H maybe try waiting more than 2 mins for an answer
22:50 Niebieski Probably hes new to IRC.
22:50 Niebieski Appearntly hes connecting from a web client.
22:50 H-H-H Responses may take a while, so be patient. |
22:51 H-H-H its in the topic lol
22:51 Niebieski :)
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23:34 FreeFull Niebieski: How blue are you?
23:34 Niebieski FreeFull: Haha, I don't know, you tell me.
23:35 FreeFull =P
23:36 Niebieski Blue like a sea ?
23:36 FreeFull Like the sky
23:38 Niebieski Yeah.
23:39 FreeFull Jestem polakiem =P
23:39 Niebieski Let me Google that... xD
23:40 Niebieski Nice, I have a good thing towards Poland.
23:43 RealBadAngel blue in english means sad or a colour, in polish Niebieski means just the colour
23:45 Niebieski Cool, but I'm getting pessimistic about the name now.
23:45 RealBadAngel come on, its blue coloured
23:45 RealBadAngel as the sky
23:45 RealBadAngel origin of the polish adjective is the sky itself
23:45 FreeFull Yes, stick with your name, it's perfectly cromulent
23:46 RealBadAngel tell some1 crawling the sahara that sky colour is sad
23:46 Niebieski You seem encoutered it as a 'blue person' at first.
23:47 RealBadAngel he could propably have found an oasis by now
23:47 RealBadAngel but no, blue is no go :P
23:48 Niebieski Right ? :/
23:49 Niebieski People get named Niebieski in Poland ?
23:49 Niebieski I guess so because most of there names end with I.
23:49 RealBadAngel many names end with SKI
23:49 RealBadAngel google for SOBIESKI
23:49 FreeFull My name is Filip Szczepański
23:49 FreeFull I'm not aware of anyone with Niebieski as a surname though
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23:51 Niebieski It's not recommended to put your real name on the internet FreeFull.
23:52 RealBadAngel google says that theres about 500 folks having Niebieski as name in poland
23:52 Niebieski John III Sobieski, Leelee Sobieski and Sobieski vodka ?
23:52 RealBadAngel the first one
23:52 FreeFull Niebieski: I'm not the only person with that name anyway
23:52 FreeFull I don't see the problem
23:53 RealBadAngel Sobieski was one of the most famous polish kings
23:53 RealBadAngel he save Vienna
23:54 RealBadAngel using his name for a vodka is a bad joke
23:54 FreeFull Look up King Jadwiga
23:54 RealBadAngel but nowadays all the bad jokes just work...
23:55 RealBadAngel if you could try that marketing trick while he was alive polish hussary will propably erase your town from the map :P
23:55 Niebieski That what came up on the search results.
23:56 Niebieski Specially if it was low quality vodka.
23:59 RealBadAngel Sobieski did more for the Europe than Napoleon
23:59 RealBadAngel and yet hes less known

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