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00:40 * ipv6b tries with make clean
00:41 ipv6b omg. After make clean, I did just do make and it only took like half a second. Awesome!
00:43 sofar are you sure it actually cleaned anything?
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01:00 ipv6b sofar, no so my new attempt is downloading latest release from git as the readme says...
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01:09 ipv6b sofar, these are my build options http://pastebin.com/wBbdiK8U
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01:29 ipv6b ok...it announces...something I did helped.
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01:44 ipv6b looks like players disconnect. I'll best disable server before people just fail connecting...
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01:52 ACSpike[Laptop] Got a raspberry pi 2 in the mail today. Just installed Raspbian and compiled minetest.
01:54 ACSpike[Laptop] runs pretty slow, but its my first time building minetest so maybe there are some optimizations to enable that I don't know about?
01:54 VanessaE it's a RPi.  it's not fast :P
01:55 ACSpike[Laptop] rpi 2!
01:56 ACSpike[Laptop] little faster than the rpi
01:56 ACSpike[Laptop] should be anyway
01:56 VanessaE it's still a RPi. :)
01:56 VanessaE it's not exactly a Core i7
01:59 ACSpike[Laptop] minecraft pi is pretty responsive, but still does freeze everyonce in a while
02:00 VanessaE probably just lack of opengl accel on the rpi?
02:01 VanessaE (or irrlicht support for same)
02:01 ACSpike[Laptop] said something about a software renderer
02:01 VanessaE that would be why.
02:01 VanessaE wasn't there something about OpenGL ES that needs added here?
02:01 VanessaE I can't remember for sure
02:02 ACSpike[Laptop] saw something about that in the forums, but it was 2-3 years old and I don't know what the words mean anyway
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02:11 Pilcrow ACSpike[Laptop], OpenGL ES stands for "OpenGL for Embedded Systems". OpenGL is a graphical library for hardware rendering, used similarly to DirectX in Windows (it's not quite the same, but I won't go into the differences). Basically, if you don't have OpenGL support, you won't have hardware accelerated 3D and the 3D processing must be handled by the CPU (which is much slower for those kinds of tasks)...
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02:18 ACSpike[Laptop] so opengl es is a stripped down api? which does minetest require? full opengl or will es work?
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02:26 Pilcrow_ ACSpike[Laptop], I'm not completely sure. opengl es is a subset of opengl, so I assume it is installed as -part- of the full opengl but could also be installed standalone on some systems? Pretty sure you can install the full opengl on a RPi - which should cover all bases - but I'm not positive.
02:33 ACSpike[Laptop] ok, I'll start my investigations there. Thanks!
02:33 Pilcrow_ ^ actually, on further googling it appears a pi has only ES support. also, it would seem that Raspbian already has it installed by default. so I guess there's some incompatability between Minetest and ES?
02:34 ACSpike[Laptop] ok, thanks again
02:34 ACSpike[Laptop] g'night
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04:10 est31 w0w https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/issues/2379#issuecomment-89155682
04:30 VanessaE holy shit.
04:35 VanessaE I'm glad I've been doing all this mesh nodes work on homedecor then :)  it doesn't help the number of recipes of course, but it does cut down on the number of registered nodes and the number of unique textures being used.
04:35 VanessaE (and hence, total resources)
04:36 est31 yea, my theory for the ~ 1GB memory usage of minetest clients is this "initializing nodes" step at the start
04:38 est31 those should be cached at disk, but I'm not yet sure how to do it smart
04:38 VanessaE another thing that needs fixed is disabling the mesh cache by default
04:39 est31 mesh cache?
04:39 VanessaE enable_mesh_cache = false
04:39 VanessaE this costs 800+ MB on the client when Dreambuilder is in use.
04:39 VanessaE (if it's enabled)
04:39 est31 oh no
04:40 est31 /Cache 6dfacedir and wallmounted rotated clones of meshes
04:40 VanessaE RBA added originally as some way of speeding up how mesh nodes are rotated during the mapnode->mesh generation stage
04:40 VanessaE yep, that's it
04:40 VanessaE imho it is not a useful feature in practice
04:43 est31 yup far less mem
04:44 VanessaE idk why this stuff isn't ALL cached to disk
04:45 VanessaE and only the relevant data reloaded when needed
04:48 est31 yea. I'll do some crafting speedups, then I'll evaluate whether to propose enable_mesh_cache to default to false.
04:48 est31 either way, near the setting, minetest.conf.example has a reordering problem
04:49 VanessaE I already have it default to false in dreambuilder for singleplayer and I tell users on my forum threads for the two servers, to disable it there too
04:49 VanessaE but that isn't enough
04:49 VanessaE you know how users are :P
04:49 est31 yea :D
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06:57 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Create PacketError exception and use it with ACTIVEOBJECT_REMOVE_ADD handler which can be unreliable aa340fd http://git.io/veIV5 (2015-04-03T08:53:31+02:00)
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07:46 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Fix players spawned at (0,0,0) in some rare cases instead of static_spawnpoint, if set 470de10 http://git.io/veID2 (2015-04-03T09:44:36+02:00)
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08:17 Calinou anyone has a smart auto-restart script for Minetest server?
08:17 Calinou one that restarts only in case of crash, not in case of Ctrl + C
08:22 est31 nope
08:23 est31 when I take my server offline, I just do crontab -e before
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08:28 Megaf Hi everyone
08:28 gamemanj Hello.
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08:29 Megaf Calinou: I think I could do that
08:30 Megaf Calinou: the script would monitor the log output for crash messages
08:30 Megaf if it saw a crash message, it would restart the server, if it saw a quit message, it would quit itself
08:31 est31 what does the exit code do in these situations?
08:34 Megaf I'm not sure
08:42 Calinou yeah, it should auto-restart only if exit code is 2
08:43 est31 in bash, the exit code of the last process is stored in $?
08:45 Calinou 2015-04-03 04:29:17: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: Player with the name "Admin" tried to connect from **.**.**.** but it was disallowed for the following reason: Misleading nickname.
08:45 Calinou hahaha
08:47 est31 so it seems you want some "RC=2; while ((RC == 2)); do minetest; RC=$?; done"
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09:38 xenkey !server Zenith
09:38 MinetestBot xenkey: Zenith - The Second Coming | mt.3tm.net | Clients: 12/32, 9/15 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / zenith | Ping: 20ms
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10:44 Megaf !server Megaf
10:44 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms
10:50 Megaf !seen LazyJ
10:50 MinetestBot Megaf: lazyj was last seen at 2014-12-22 14:57:47 UTC on #minetest
10:57 Megaf anyone else using Irrlicht dev trunk and luajit 2.1?
10:57 xenkey !server zenith
10:57 MinetestBot xenkey: Zenith - The Second Coming | mt.3tm.net | Clients: 11/32, 10/18 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / zenith | Ping: 17ms
10:58 xenkey 2 much clients
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11:03 Calinou xenkey, no shields on your server?
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11:57 Megaf !server Megaf
11:57 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.12-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms
11:57 Megaf !up mt.megaf.info 30003
11:57 MinetestBot mt.megaf.info:30003 is up (8ms)
11:59 Megaf !up 178.79.130.6 30003
11:59 MinetestBot 178.79.130.6:30003 is up (6ms)
11:59 Megaf !up 178.79.130.6 30003
11:59 MinetestBot 178.79.130.6:30003 is up (8ms)
11:59 est31 !server Trepca
11:59 MinetestBot est31: ==TREPCA== | alket.mooo.com | Clients: 2/20, 2/6 | Version: 0.4.12 / minetest_game | Ping: 62ms
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12:05 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Remove errorstream logging on password change 1cb4045 http://git.io/veLpk (2015-04-03T14:01:41+02:00)
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12:06 Calinou craaaaap
12:06 Calinou the IRC mod doesn't load
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12:19 Megaf !server stuff
12:19 MinetestBot Megaf: No results
12:19 Megaf !server Stuff
12:19 MinetestBot Megaf: No results
12:20 Megaf !up 186.213.153.66 30003
12:20 MinetestBot 186.213.153.66:30003 is up (230ms)
12:20 Megaf there, is up
12:20 Megaf !server Stuff
12:20 MinetestBot Megaf: No results
12:21 Calinou installed IRC mod successfully
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12:44 Megaf tnt and default privs is all, tnt radious is 20, => 186.213.153.66 30003
12:44 Megaf creative
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12:52 est31 all?!
13:09 Megaf est31: give,creative,teleport,fly,server, that stuff
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13:14 est31 you intend it to be a multiplayer server?
13:14 est31 and public?
13:15 est31 then I suggest to restrict at least ban and server privs
13:15 est31 otherwise people can do /shutdown, and ruin your fun
13:15 est31 or /ban all joining players
13:17 Megaf est31: like you just did
13:17 est31 yea
13:17 est31 :p
13:17 Megaf est31: is not public
13:17 Megaf join there and have fun with tnts
13:17 est31 ok
13:18 est31 I'm off doing dev stuff
13:18 Megaf set fire to everything
13:18 Megaf o/
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13:30 rubenwardy A bit harsh? https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=174947#p174947
13:33 ipv6b minetest.conf.example says unlimited_player_transfer_distance is deprecated. Thus I just use player_transfer_distance = 0 if I want players to see each other regardless of where they are?
13:33 rubenwardy Probably, or -1
13:34 ipv6b I can try with both 0 and -1 to see if there is any difference. Thanks
13:38 Megaf Hi LazyJ
13:38 Megaf bug fixed :)
13:46 ipv6b Does anybody know of any mod which restricts players from venturing out of certain bounds? VikingCrafters was like that. Somebody told me that the admin just 'wanted to experiment' but I think it as a way to save world map space.
13:47 ipv6b VikingCrafters was popular because most players were happy just chatting and pvping sometimes, they didn't mine much...
13:48 ipv6b though just test is huge and I think it is only 16GB of space on it and I have a 120GB harddrive, so maybe map size is not a problem.
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13:56 ipv6b Does mapgen 7 generate any world blocks at about 0,150,90000?
13:57 * ipv6b restarts server
14:00 LazyJ Good to hear, Megaf. That bug really had me worried. It would have created a huge headache for long established servers.
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14:17 FreeFull ipv6b: 90000 sounds like it's too far out
14:17 ipv6b omg, Minetest client just managed to eat 8GB of my ram, but it somehow unlocked from that state and I opened the system monitor and choose "kill" for Minetest. Now I got my memory back :)
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14:17 FreeFull ipv6b: I recall things only being generated in the area of about -30000 to 30000 for x, y and z
14:18 ipv6b FreeFull, yes when I returned to about -33000 thousand I wanted to see where the terrain is gonna generate. That's when the client started to eat my ram
14:18 FreeFull ipv6b: I have gone down to the bottom of the world before, but I don't recall the exact y coordinate
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14:25 ipv6b Hmm I think I just reached the end of the world of mapgen v7 at x,y,30927
14:25 ipv6b Nothing is generated on the next block and it won't let me pass
14:27 ipv6b I didn't know these were the limits. Is it true for all mapgens both old and new?
14:30 rubenwardy y]
14:32 ipv6b There I got my limit. Nobody can venture beyond 30000 in any direction :)
14:34 rubenwardy Map gen stops at 30927, to stop issues, you can actually go on further if you can spawn chunks before the cordinate system stops working
14:34 rubenwardy !c (2**8)/2
14:34 MinetestBot 128.0
14:34 rubenwardy !c (2**16)/2
14:34 MinetestBot 32768.0
14:35 rubenwardy It would be nice to have a bigger map, but it's mostly for willy waving competitions
14:35 rubenwardy Except for making life like maps of earth, etc
14:35 rubenwardy Or even a countr
14:37 ipv6b Even from the furthest distance player_transfer_distance = 0 works alright.
14:37 rubenwardy Making the UK would require 906km, ie: +/- 450,000. That's 15 times the range with have now.
14:38 rubenwardy * +/- 450,000 block
14:38 rubenwardy *blocks
14:38 rubenwardy 906km from the bottom of britain to the top :P
14:38 rubenwardy And america is many times bigger.
14:39 rubenwardy https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2013/0​9/minecraft-creating-a-map-of-great-britain/
14:39 est dammit amazonaws
14:39 est no wget on different hosts allowed
14:39 est stupid thing
14:39 rubenwardy est31?
14:40 xenkey Calinou: nope
14:40 xenkey Worth adding?
14:40 est I will have to resort to scp... :/
14:40 est or no
14:41 est just shouldnt copy paste urls
14:41 est much better now
14:41 xenkey whats the issue?
14:44 rubenwardy !c (2**24)/2
14:44 MinetestBot 8388608.0
14:44 rubenwardy !c (2**32)/2
14:44 MinetestBot 2147483648.0
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15:01 rubenwardy WIP opening paragraph for minetest.net, trying to explain the philosophy of this project: "Minetest is a blocky game and a game engine, inspired by InfiniMiner, Minecraft and the like. Minetest is all about customization - we want you to mod it, so mods are super easy to create and install. All the content in the game comes from mods, every block, tool and item. Minetest comes with a basic foundation set of mods called Minetest Game, whic
15:01 rubenwardy h you can then add on top of. We call these foundation sets subgames."
15:04 Calinou xenkey, yes, you can add shields
15:04 Calinou it's more complete than just having armor
15:07 rubenwardy "Minetest is a blocky game and a game engine, inspired by InfiniMiner, Minecraft and the like. Minetest is about customization - all the content in the game comes from mods, every block, tool and item. Minetest comes with a basic foundation set of mods called 'Minetest Game', which you can then add on top of. We call these foundation sets subgames, and there are many others to choose from. If you'd rather just play a complete game, you ca
15:07 rubenwardy n download a subgame which contains a good set of playable content."
15:08 xenkey it is indeed
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15:09 est this would make a nice "about subgames" paragraph
15:09 rubenwardy It is important enough to be on the home page.
15:09 rubenwardy But yeah
15:10 est yes its important
15:11 xenkey you is important
15:14 est ?
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15:32 Xack hi :)
15:33 Megaf Hey
15:33 Xack Calinou!
15:33 Xack Megaf!
15:33 Megaf Xack!
15:34 xenkey Uh
15:34 xenkey I just realised dotx.me is banned
15:34 xenkey (from this channel)
15:34 xenkey May I ask why?
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15:34 xenkey It was a shell provider if I recall correctly, a few months ago
15:40 sfan5 it's run by "that guy"
15:40 xenkey ?
15:40 sfan5 also i don't think it was a shell provider
15:41 ekem i think they are.
15:41 ekem http://dotx.me/april-fool-shell/
15:41 xenkey It was -- I run it -- I ran an open docker thing which turned to shit as more people used it
15:41 ekem oh a bad docker experience?
15:41 xenkey Yep
15:41 ekem what size vps
15:41 xenkey Very bad
15:41 sfan5 xenkey: long story, there is this one person that always causes trouble when not banned so we don't want to deal with them any more
15:41 ekem what happened
15:42 xenkey I was dumb enough to go 512M 1 core
15:42 ekem did you run out of disk space?
15:42 xenkey Small DO vps really shat itself but it was the abuse I was worried about
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15:42 ekem oh yeah, i get ya
15:42 xenkey Oh no, I had to shut it down due to IPv6 abuse
15:42 xenkey sfan5: markv?
15:42 ekem handling shell accounts is not fun
15:42 xenkey I remember him asking for a shell
15:42 sfan5 xenkey: *nod*
15:43 xenkey It's true of any service open to the public
15:43 xenkey Without security, no matter how trusted your users are, something bad is gonna happen
15:43 ekem unless its like a wordpress. the people who even know what a shell account is are trouble makers
15:43 ekem ALL OF THEM
15:43 * ekem glares at the user list
15:44 xenkey it's all locked down now
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15:45 xenkey http://www.dotx.me:8000/
15:45 xenkey Proof ...
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15:46 xenkey So locked down in fact I had to do `man iptables` to get do this
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15:51 ekem man iptables must be fun
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15:52 xenkey I lied, I use ufw :$)
15:52 xenkey :^)
15:52 xenkey and i still cant figure it out
15:53 xenkey Oh
15:53 xenkey It's more intuitive than i thought
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15:58 Jordach oi, xenkey
15:59 xenkey yo Jordach
15:59 Jordach server address and port might be nice :P
15:59 xenkey where?
15:59 Jordach yours
15:59 xenkey The topic?
16:01 Jordach xenkey, you had a server right
16:01 xenkey I did
16:01 Jordach links
16:01 xenkey Zenith one?
16:01 xenkey mt.3tm.net it is
16:02 xenkey If you're talking about the forum topic, I already said what I think of players making topics for servers they don't own...
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16:03 xenkey my server's only been up for 3 hours
16:03 xenkey Which means it segfaulted and my for i in $(seq 10); do minetestserver; done is only a temporary fix
16:03 Jordach heh flat map
16:03 xenkey works though :^)
16:04 xenkey Yeah
16:08 xenkey I think it's time to ban all the noobs again
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16:13 stormchaser3000 oh dear
16:13 stormchaser3000 https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&t=11716
16:14 stormchaser3000 SPAMBOTS
16:14 * Megaf runs nmap in broadcast mode on the internet
16:15 Megaf Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (256 hosts up) scanned in 77.20 seconds
16:15 Megaf LazyJ: you are one of those
16:15 Megaf xP
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16:15 Megaf Nmap scan report for c-24-16-203-134.hsd1.wa.comcast.net (24.16.203.134)
16:15 Megaf Host is up (0.0034s latency).
16:16 LazyJ Ok...?? So what does all that mean?
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16:16 Megaf nothing at all
16:16 Megaf I have too much free time in my hands
16:17 xenkey Standing in spawn and banning everyone who tries to kill me
16:18 Jordach xenkey, add a literal ban hammer
16:18 Jordach someone on the forums made one
16:18 sfan5 ^
16:18 sfan5 Megaf: depending on where you are scanning from and who you might soon have less money or time on your hands
16:18 xenkey Jordach: oh my god thats a genious
16:19 xenkey genius
16:19 Jordach xenkey, add admin armor, step 2: add ban hammer
16:19 xenkey admin armor?
16:19 Jordach no damage
16:19 xenkey genius
16:19 Jordach step 3: make arena for people to fight you for a prize ';)
16:19 xenkey pure
16:19 xenkey genius
16:19 xenkey Hehe
16:19 xenkey Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
16:19 xenkey That's brilliant
16:19 Jordach just don't hit Q
16:20 xenkey Where's admin armor?
16:20 sfan5 ohhh
16:20 xenkey Doesn't it check privs tho/
16:20 Jordach some fork of 3d_armor
16:20 Jordach xenkey, not sure
16:20 sfan5 xenkey: make the ban hammer explode when it touches a node
16:20 Megaf sfan5: it was an accident xP
16:20 xenkey This mod adds a hammer which bans (kicks, or removes shout privilege depending on the mode) any player it is punched with. The user of it must have the "ban" privilege. Works with 0.4.9 and above. yeah it does
16:20 Jordach git gud
16:21 xenkey 3d armor
16:21 xenkey hrmm
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16:26 xenkey I'm starting to hate my server
16:27 Jordach xenkey, ez: turn PvP off
16:27 Jordach if they want that, go play NeinCraft
16:27 sfan5 nein
16:27 * Jordach pets sfan5
16:27 * sfan5 pursr
16:28 sfan5 purrs*
16:28 Jordach silly kitty
16:28 * Jordach pets sfan5
16:28 * sfan5 rolls around
16:28 est !cat
16:28 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/q4RPFjJ.jpg
16:29 sfan5 aww
16:30 xenkey sfan5: so could i get the ban lifted?
16:30 xenkey And adding ban hammer now
16:31 sfan5 Xack: the ban on dotx.me?
16:31 Xack sfan5: wow rude
16:31 sfan5 Xack: ikr
16:31 sfan5 oh
16:31 sfan5 xenkey: the ban on dotx.me?
16:31 sfan5 Xack: sry
16:32 * Xack cats sfan5
16:32 xenkey sfan5: yeah
16:32 sfan5 xenkey: i guess so
16:32 xenkey Thanks
16:32 xenkey Lesson: Don't give out shells to kids :(
16:32 sfan5 !unban *!*@dotx.me
16:32 sfan5 hm
16:32 xenkey Thx
16:33 sfan5 looks like it's gone
16:33 xenkey I'm not going to join with that hostmask, I just feel easier in the mind :)
16:33 sfan5 !unignore *!*@dotx.me
16:33 MinetestBot sfan5: '*!*@dotx.me' removed from ignore list.
16:34 xenkey no this is
16:34 xenkey it
16:34 xenkey im making this whitelisted
16:35 xenkey fuck this shit
16:35 xenkey Hate these kids so much
16:35 Jordach meep meep
16:35 Jordach xenkey, now
16:35 Jordach watch your 3rd position fall downwards fast :P
16:36 xenkey Huh?
16:36 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/nkmaum.png typical "house"
16:36 xenkey Oh
16:36 xenkey Well
16:36 xenkey Players aren't important
16:36 xenkey I'd much rather have a nice world
16:37 Jordach xenkey, shut up shop altogether and help me :P
16:37 xenkey I'd love to
16:37 Jordach i already have a nice world :D
16:37 xenkey I hate this admin stuff
16:37 est xenkey, my server has tenplus1' protector mod
16:37 xenkey Sure I'll help
16:37 xenkey Isn't tenplus1 the Xanadu guy?
16:37 Jordach xenkey, we have whoareyou a known forum member known for building cities
16:37 est yes
16:37 est also does alot of modding
16:37 Jordach yes - the unmoderated server
16:38 Jordach (you may want 0.4.11, as there's a hud bug present in 0.4.12)
16:38 xenkey Yeah
16:38 Megaf who is responsible for dotx.me?
16:38 xenkey me
16:38 Jordach !server Jordach
16:38 MinetestBot Jordach: Jordach's Public Server | jordach.net:30001 | Clients: 0/15, 0/5 | Version: 0.4.11-dev / minetest | Ping: 8ms
16:38 xenkey Well i was less responsible before
16:38 xenkey Joining now
16:38 est when you place a "protected door", and an area is protected by players a,b,c, then only a b and c can open the door
16:39 Jordach xenkey, i am working on updating a mod shortly
16:39 est you have to manually disable the protector stones though
16:39 Jordach xenkey, unlike most servers, i'm happy to pay for it myself
16:39 xenkey Surely you need to pay for most servers anyway :-)
16:39 xenkey Well in fact all servers
16:40 Jordach xenkey, $10 a mo isn't much for me
16:40 sfan5 Jordach: DO?
16:40 Jordach ya
16:40 Megaf xenkey: I like the website style
16:40 sfan5 ic
16:40 xenkey Jordach: Mine is free :)
16:40 sfan5 that explains the ping
16:40 xenkey Megaf: Thanks
16:40 Jordach xenkey, tip: use /part to ignore IRC
16:40 xenkey yeah I've used the mod before
16:41 xenkey I like the chatter
16:41 xenkey it's quite intelligent, unlike most
16:41 rubenwardy Jordach, do you use a VM?
16:41 Jordach might want to follow me to whoareyou's city
16:41 Jordach rubenwardy, VPS
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16:42 * xenkey has a dedicated server :^)
16:42 rubenwardy Yeah.
16:42 Megaf Jordach: well, that's a VM :P
16:42 rubenwardy Which do you use?
16:42 xenkey sudo: apt-get: command not found
16:42 rubenwardy Eventually I might need to host a HTML5 + NodeJS game online.
16:43 xenkey I forget I'm on arch...
16:43 rubenwardy :(
16:43 Jordach rubenwardy, i would ;)
16:44 rubenwardy It's early days in development. :P
16:44 xenkey Tarring up server and shredding box
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16:52 xenkey It's gonna take ~30 min to copy all this shit
16:53 xenkey Jordach: so 0.4-11 ?
16:54 Jordach xenkey, commits just before Jan 2015
16:54 Jordach if you need anything, PM more or just poke me
16:55 xenkey http://psycho.space/p/kxt8
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16:55 xenkey Alright
16:55 xenkey I'll start le building
16:55 Jordach i need to install darkage
16:55 Jordach people seem to like it ;)
16:56 est 0.4.11 has other serious problems, if you have specific bugs with 0.4.12, then you can try master
16:56 xenkey Yeah i was gonna say
16:56 xenkey Jordach: Could I suggest a few mods?
16:56 Jordach go nuts
16:56 xenkey Some I wrote myself, some I nicked off the forums before the downloads expired
16:56 Jordach sure, tar em and send em :P
16:56 xenkey IN 27 minutes and 30 seconds
16:57 xenkey wait i can just mv this to the web folder
16:58 Jordach i also run a no refunds style of grief protection:
16:58 Jordach didn't protect it? not my problem
16:58 xenkey http://mt.3tm.net/minetest.tgz go huts :)
16:58 xenkey nuts*
16:59 Jordach The connection was reset
16:59 xenkey 500MB jesus
16:59 Jordach >8mbps
16:59 Jordach it'll go quickly :)
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16:59 xenkey 3>300kbps
16:59 xenkey :c
17:00 Jordach i just get under one mbyte/s
17:00 xenkey lucky :c
17:00 Jordach my server has 125mbps
17:00 xenkey Where is your server hosted by the way?
17:00 Jordach xenkey, london
17:00 xenkey Awesome
17:00 xenkey Close to home :^)
17:00 Calinou hi Xack
17:00 Jordach most US players get decent PING
17:00 Calinou Xack, I run my server now
17:00 Calinou !server Calinou
17:00 MinetestBot Calinou: Calinou [Europe/Paris] | 149.91.81.111 | Clients: 2/32, 2/6 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 11ms
17:00 Calinou #calinou @ irc.inchra.net
17:01 Xack yay nice :D
17:01 xenkey You guys have some repetitive bans...
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17:01 xenkey but I won't comment
17:01 Jordach xenkey, we had a person a few years ago with many bots
17:02 xenkey tfw most of these match my IP
17:02 xenkey That's BT's distribution system for ya
17:02 Jordach yarp
17:02 Jordach i has BT
17:02 xenkey It's awful
17:03 xenkey The ping is decent, around 40ms
17:03 xenkey (That's low for me)
17:03 Xack BT?
17:03 Jordach 13ms from here
17:03 xenkey British something
17:03 Xack oh
17:03 Jordach Telecom
17:03 xenkey That ^
17:03 Xack i thought it was a server hosting thing :P
17:03 Xack i know that BT
17:04 Jordach xenkey, i can't get yer mods :P
17:04 xenkey Neither can I
17:04 xenkey I blame online.net
17:04 Jordach chuck the mods folder from the game or /mods/ folder
17:04 Jordach drop em into pomf.se or uguu.se
17:05 Jordach uguu.se has temp files which auto delete
17:05 xenkey hehe
17:05 xenkey I know all about dem
17:05 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/iisgmg.png
17:05 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/zxrxwp.png mfw
17:05 Jordach :D
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17:06 xenkey t-this is my other one http://a.pomf.se/bujrgu.png
17:06 xenkey If I met this mark kid irl he'd get it
17:06 xenkey a) bringing shame to the name
17:06 xenkey "Mark" :-(
17:07 Jordach markveidemanis
17:07 Jordach go nuts on that nick
17:07 xenkey ^
17:07 xenkey That's him
17:07 xenkey markv markveidemanis m4
17:07 xenkey Or m5 or something
17:08 * Jordach is norfolk based
17:08 xenkey USING MY PERFECTLY FINE DOMAINS
17:08 xenkey Taught me not to share my stuff though
17:09 Jordach http://a.pomf.se/zochfw.png
17:09 Jordach wat
17:09 xenkey lol
17:10 xenkey sfan5: I hate to ask but...
17:11 sfan5 ?
17:12 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/zxrxwp.png ...
17:15 Megaf ¿
17:16 xenkey That's another of my domains
17:16 xenkey But I think that's all
17:16 xenkey Would you mind... :^)
17:17 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/tgvbth.png
17:18 xenkey Jordach: https://github.com/jschx/poomf.sh This is useful if you like pomf
17:20 sfan5 xenkey: ?
17:21 xenkey Could you unban mtcm also?
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17:21 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/znwyev.png
17:21 sfan5 uh huh
17:22 sfan5 i guess i can
17:22 sfan5 !unignore *!*@mtcm.eu
17:22 MinetestBot sfan5: '*!*@mtcm.eu' removed from ignore list.
17:22 sfan5 !unban *!*@mtcm.eu
17:22 xenkey Thanks
17:22 xenkey I just want you to know they're mine, not "his"
17:23 ipv6b Will "server_announce = 0" "Automaticaly report to masterserver"?
17:24 sfan5 obviously not
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17:27 * ipv6b found it here https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/minetest.conf.example
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17:34 xenkey Jordach: The performance is really good, I'll upload a tar of just my mods
17:34 xenkey See what you like from them
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17:36 xenkey http://mt.3tm.net
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17:39 Jordach the connection was rest
17:39 Jordach reset
17:39 Jordach Reply from 212.47.234.29: bytes=32 time=86ms TTL=46
17:39 Jordach i can ping
17:39 Jordach but not read anything
17:39 Jordach http://p.pomf.se/6807
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17:40 xenkey ugh
17:42 xenkey Lemme try another webserver
17:43 xenkey usr/bin/python: No module named SimpleHTTPServer
17:43 Jordach apache works fine :P
17:43 xenkey I'm not liking this
17:43 xenkey Ewwww
17:43 Jordach my server runs it :P
17:43 rubenwardy Apache is bulky
17:43 rubenwardy I use it, though
17:43 xenkey Hrmm
17:44 xenkey I'm nginx all around
17:44 xenkey I use Quark for my git repos though
17:44 xenkey Since nginx doesn't have CGI support
17:45 xenkey Jordach: What OS is your server?
17:45 Jordach Debian 7
17:46 xenkey Cool
17:46 xenkey http://mt.3tm.net:8000/ try this one...
17:46 Jordach nope
17:47 Jordach upload em to a file host
17:47 Jordach my connection will download em fast enough
17:48 Calinou I haven't bothered with remote media on my server
17:49 xenkey sent you login details
17:49 xenkey yfw that user has sudo
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18:10 xenkey Cool FreeDNS name anyone?
18:17 Calinou xenkey, I've cal.it.cx
18:17 Calinou but I prefer nsupdate.info
18:17 Calinou is free/libre, has nicer interface
18:17 Calinou doesn't whine you to pay
18:17 Calinou .nerdpol.ovh is from nsupdate.info
18:17 xenkey Nice
18:18 Calinou c.it.cx was taken, just like ca.it.cx
18:18 xenkey is there a .nou  ?
18:19 Calinou there is .no
18:20 Halamix2_wifi There was noip.something
18:20 Calinou no-ip sucks
18:20 Calinou has tons of ads, only 3 subdomains per account (5 for old accounts)…
18:20 Calinou really, nsupdate.info and hopper.pw are much better
18:27 ShadowNinja Calinou: I think I just found a security vulnerability in nsupdate.info...
18:28 xenkey oh god hackers
18:28 Calinou ShadowNinja, report it
18:28 xenkey Do that ^
18:28 Calinou and hax0r my mt.nerdpol.ovh subdomain
18:28 Calinou (-:
18:29 ShadowNinja Calinou: It won't be easy to fix without causing browser redirect loops.
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18:30 Calinou you can tell me in PM what it is
18:36 xenkey Will Minetest work on Alpine?
18:36 xenkey Im gonna RTFM before I do anything else with this server
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18:37 sfan5 xenkey: why would it not
18:37 xenkey because it doesn't have libc
18:37 xenkey Or that's what i thought
18:37 sfan5 every distro needs a libc
18:37 sfan5 it just has a different libc
18:37 xenkey this uses musl
18:38 xenkey Gonna read the wiki before everyone makes fun of me..
18:40 xenkey This is great!
18:40 xenkey Really fast to
18:40 xenkey too*
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18:51 xenkey Jordach: What's the maximum area a player can protect?
18:52 Jordach 10k areas
18:52 Jordach for my serv, elsewhere 5
18:52 Jordach the "area" is 50*100*50
18:52 Jordach afaik
18:52 xenkey Eh
18:52 Jordach can be bigger if done by admins
18:52 xenkey I'll ask whoareyou
18:52 xenkey That ok?
18:52 xenkey I found this nice island
18:53 Jordach he has the areas priv
18:53 Jordach he can go further
18:53 xenkey Yup
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18:55 xenkey mfw he doesn't know how to do it
18:58 est there is the /area_info command
18:58 xenkey Jordach: Can you also add treecapitator?
18:58 est it tells you those information
18:58 xenkey Ah nice
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19:05 xenkey So I made wood and stone picks only to realize i have a full set of iron tools in my inventory
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19:13 Calinou !server Calinou
19:13 MinetestBot Calinou: Calinou [Europe/Paris] | 149.91.81.111 | Clients: 3/32, 3/4 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 11ms
19:15 xenkey !server jordach
19:15 MinetestBot xenkey: Jordach's Public Server | jordach.net:30001 | Clients: 4/15, 0/6 | Version: 0.4.11-dev / minetest | Ping: 7ms
19:15 xenkey yeye
19:15 xenkey best server ^
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19:22 Pilcrow so, do falling nodes fall through unloaded areas? I've been playing around with trying to program a simple quarry machine or similar, but tested it in a world composed entirely of falling nodes. when it dug down about 50 nodes, the entire world started collapsing into the unloaded chunk and froze my game, lol.
19:32 Pilcrow btw, xenkey, did you manage to get Minetest working in Alpine?
19:32 xenkey Pilcrow: Didn't bother trying, playing on jordach's server
19:32 xenkey I'll try later and let you know if I manage to get it running
19:33 xenkey Note it's a server, not a desktop
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19:35 xenkey 3> crafts slabs >places them straight in the trash
19:35 xenkey Right from the crafting grid
19:35 xenkey ffs
19:36 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/djupwo.png
19:36 xenkey why does this happen?
19:36 Pilcrow ok. I'm just curious, xenkey. fyi, musl *is* an implementation of libc, it's just not entirely binary-compatible with glibc... I assume that just means you'd need to build Minetest yourself -- which I suspect you were probably going to do anyway. I've not used musl before, but with any luck, it should compile...  :)
19:37 xenkey scw-548d32:~# apk info minetest
19:37 xenkey minetest-0.4.11-r1 description:
19:37 xenkey it's there!
19:38 Jordach xenkey, slabs and stairs auto rotate to the face they were placed on
19:39 xenkey Oh
19:39 xenkey So I have to make scaffolding?
19:40 Pilcrow ^ it would be nice if they ignored the rotation code when being placed against other stairs or slabs...  :\
19:40 xenkey yeah
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19:41 Pilcrow but yes, xenkey, you'll need a node underneath the slab so you can point downward when you place it...
19:42 est or use a screwdriver
19:42 Pilcrow ^ or that.
19:42 xenkey Woop woop dungeon!!!
19:42 xenkey Jordach: There any waypoints or bookmarks?
19:43 Jordach xenkey, there are two sethomes, one in the inventory, and one via /home and /sethome
19:43 Pilcrow btw, hello est. did you lose your 31?  :P
19:43 Jordach use travelnets for longer distances or related things
19:44 est I timed out and rejoined
19:44 xenkey ah, travelnets
19:45 xenkey I'm going to need some more resources first
19:46 Pilcrow Yeah, I figured, I was just kidding around. Although, -someone- was stealing letters from peoples' names yesterday... Maybe they'd want to steal numbers too....  ;P
19:47 est 13773RS R NU|V|6RS 2...
19:49 Pilcrow ¿sɹǝqɯnu osןɐ sɹǝʇʇǝן uʍop-ǝpısdn ǝɹɐ ʇnq
19:51 xenkey Pilcrow: nah
19:52 Pilcrow ɥoʍ ɐqonʇ ndpıpǝ-poʍu *ɐup* qɐɔʞʍɐɹps¿
19:53 Pilcrow (ok, I'm done...)
19:53 est ˙suoıʇɔǝɹıp ןןɐ uı 'ooʇ ǝɹɐ ʎǝɥʇ ǝsɹnoɔ ɟO
19:53 Jordach !rev ɥoʍ ɐqonʇ ndpıpǝ-poʍu *ɐup* qɐɔʞʍɐɹps¿
19:53 MinetestBot ¿spɹɐʍʞɔɐq *puɐ* uʍop-ǝpıpdn ʇnoqɐ ʍoɥ
19:54 Jordach ^ help ful
19:54 Pilcrow *ndsıpǝ
19:54 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/pvaihe.png lovely
19:55 Jordach xenkey, :D
19:55 Pilcrow ^ giant tube falling into lava, xenkey?
19:55 Calinou !rev umop-apisdn
19:55 MinetestBot ndsipa-pomu
19:55 Pilcrow lol oh no, I've caused a mess...  :D
19:56 Calinou !rev elgoog.moc//:http
19:56 MinetestBot ptth://com.google
19:56 Calinou lol
19:56 Calinou !rev elgoog.moc//:ptth
19:56 MinetestBot http://com.google
19:56 est I like that one
19:57 Pilcrow google ftw
19:57 Pilcrow !rev google ftw
19:57 MinetestBot wtf elgoog
19:59 xenkey Jordach: Pilcrow: I dug into lava :c
19:59 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/wwcwxp.png
19:59 xenkey Worth it tho
19:59 xenkey I love thi screenshot tool :)
19:59 Jordach hahah
19:59 xenkey 3 diamonds
20:00 xenkey I forgot how fun minetest was!
20:00 Pilcrow xenkey, rule #1 in minecraft also applies to minetest: don't dig straight down.  ;)
20:00 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/yrfxqp.png seems fine to me
20:02 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/egedck.png :D
20:02 Pilcrow o_O how could you *forget* how fun minetest is? I've put more time into both playing and modding minetest than any other game (including the old Phantasy Star Online that I played for around 300 hours)...
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20:02 SylvieLorxu Minetest is boring
20:03 xenkey Pilcrow: Admin duty
20:03 * Pilcrow gives SylvieLorxu a strange look  :P
20:03 SylvieLorxu Pilcrow: No, really, I have trouble staying interested, I just keep tabbing away, I'm not good in playing things without a real goal :x
20:04 Calinou Pilcrow, digging straight down works for me in Minetest
20:04 Calinou just /home quickly if you dig into lava
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20:04 Pilcrow well, that works, Calinou. still best to not swim in lava anyway though...  ;P
20:05 xenkey I don't think you'd last as long in lava in real life as you do in Minetest
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20:08 Pilcrow eh, to each his own, SylvieLorxu. Minetest is fun for me because I love creating stuff. With crafting, building, AND modding, I get to let out my creative side (although my music has suffered because of it; creating stuff in minetest satisfies my creative drive enough that I don't feel like writing new songs nearly as much anymore...)  :P
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20:16 xenkey ttp://a.pomf.se/bmzwjx.png
20:16 xenkey and i have no pick
20:18 Pilcrow xenkey, press F5 and write down the coords?
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20:18 luizrpgluiz hi
20:19 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/lihnzj.png i finds it
20:19 xenkey nah
20:19 xenkey Too much
20:19 xenkey Too many diamonds
20:19 luizrpgluiz :)
20:21 luizrpgluiz this game is discouraging me to make server :(
20:29 xenkey Don't do it
20:29 xenkey Bad idea
20:29 xenkey gateway to administration mayhem
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20:32 Pilcrow a private server with friends is pretty awesome, but I don't think I'd want to run a public server...
20:33 luizrpgluiz in the current version I had a big problem, I went to open the server, my map simply gave error and never uploaded
20:34 luizrpgluiz that is, the map was not recognized in the current version
20:34 Pilcrow if I *did* run a public server, I'd probably try to make one with no area protection, but limit people by only granting interact upon request. something like that would also need some really good moderators though...  :P
20:36 luizrpgluiz ;-;
20:36 luizrpgluiz :(
20:36 * Jordach runs a public server for fun
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20:38 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/vwfmso.png thoughts?
20:38 luizrpgluiz that anger, I had done it, so now I'll have to start from scratch, should have backed up before giving this error
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20:40 Pilcrow xenkey, looks like a nice little shack. you should make a giant secret basement under it and style it like a lab; make your own "area 51"  :D
20:40 xenkey Pilcrow: Way ahead of you bro
20:41 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/whgcec.png bit of a dungeon but eh
20:42 Pilcrow sorry about your troubles, luizrpgluiz. have you tried creating a new world and copying your old map.sqlite and world.mt into it? I had to do that, to save a few worlds that hadn't been backed up...
20:43 Pilcrow oh, xenkey, was that dungeon already there, or did you build it yourself?
20:44 xenkey Twas a dungeon already :)
20:45 Pilcrow ah, cool. I love finding dungeons. I wish there was more variety though; it seems like there's only around 5 defined shapes and one is chosen at random when they get generated... eventually they all feel the same...
20:47 Calinou Pilcrow> if I *did* run a public server, I'd probably try to make one with no area protection, but limit people by only granting interact upon request. something like that would also need some really good moderators though...  :P
20:47 Calinou would get quickly griefed
20:47 Calinou better enable areas, and give everyone interact by default
20:47 Pilcrow that's one reason I like using the Pyramid, Ruins, and Mine Shaft mods too. I can't remember who made them though. I think Pyramids and Ruins were made by the same person. maybe Mine Shafts too...
20:48 Halamix2 D: http://pastebin.com/gAhaZdqr
20:49 Halamix2 it happens from time to time
20:49 est Halamix2, are you on latest git?
20:50 Pilcrow Calinou: I dislike area protection. I'd rather find a decent way around it. I like to build freely, and help whoever I can, without messing around with mod permissions and crap. probably the main reason I avoid other people's public servers, tbh.
20:50 est it should be fixed there already
20:51 Calinou yeah, but without areas, random kids grief everything
20:51 Calinou I wouldn't consider hosting a public server without areas
20:53 xenkey I wouldn't consider hosting a public server again
20:55 Pilcrow ^ which is why I'd make interact granted on request, rather than enabled by default; most kids will give up if they can't do anything. still, a better solution would be needed, to weed out the stubborn ones, lol. maybe interact should be request-by-email?  lol
20:55 jojoa1997 Hello
20:55 Calinou most kids ask “can i hav interact plz” and you give it
20:55 Calinou then they grief when you're not here
20:56 Pilcrow hello jojoa1997
20:56 Calinou I believe it shouldn't be hard to play on servers
20:56 jojoa1997 ^
20:56 Calinou requesting interact by e-mail is way too complex, wastes everyone's time
20:56 Pilcrow (the email thing was a joke, lol)
20:56 jojoa1997 You could try like VanessaE and have them request in the forums
20:57 luizrpgluiz Pilcrow: because of this error to the error also gave map.sqlite
20:58 Pilcrow I probably won't be running a server anyway, jojoa1997. this is just hypothetical. I'm just trying to think of a way to have a decent experience without area protection.
21:00 Pilcrow mainly, I don't like to -play- with area protection, and if I did try to run a server, I'd want one without that annoyance so that I might actually enjoy playing on it, too...
21:17 xenkey I think by email is a good idea
21:17 xenkey I think by telnet is even better
21:17 xenkey Just to sift out all the kids
21:18 xenkey And all the adults
21:18 Tablet_One O.o
21:18 xenkey and leave all the geeks
21:18 Tablet_One Haha
21:18 xenkey could be REQUEST <name>
21:18 xenkey I am so doing this
21:18 Pilcrow lol
21:18 xenkey Seriously
21:18 xenkey Right now
21:18 Pilcrow even *I* don't use telnet
21:18 xenkey Then all it takes is a kid to spam the shit out of your little interface
21:20 Pilcrow maybe we should just open ssh connections completely, and have people use cat and sed to give themselves interact. who cares about hackers anyway...  :P
21:21 xenkey LOL
21:21 xenkey +1
21:21 xenkey So doing this
21:22 xenkey http://mtcm.eu/py/minerequest/
21:22 Pilcrow ^ what is that supposed to be? I see an empty repository...
21:24 xenkey Not anymore ya don't
21:26 xenkey Thanks for the idea BTW
21:26 Pilcrow lol nope. now I just see an empty readme. :P
21:27 xenkey pushed now
21:31 Pilcrow now if only I understood Python. I really need to learn it...  :\
21:33 Halamix2 est, no, stable 4.12.12 (windows, sorry fo delay)
21:34 xenkey Made another commit :)
21:35 xenkey this is gonna be gud
21:35 Halamix2 tomorrow (it will happen tomorrow as well, I know it)
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21:38 xenkey why am i writing this
21:40 Pilcrow lol xenkey. your code really confuses me. I have a decent understanding of a few programming languages, but Python is not one of them and I can't seem to figure out what your code actually *does*  :P
21:40 xenkey Try running it
21:40 xenkey Twisted is exactly what it says on the tin
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21:43 Pilcrow I guess this old install I'm running doesn't have a twisted.internet module. of course, I think my Python in here is from like 2012...  :P
21:46 xenkey http://pastie.org/10072540
21:46 xenkey Fun fact: Python 2 is supported until 2020
21:47 xenkey I hate brackets around if statements, I'm just not used to them
21:47 xenkey Anyway, made another commit
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21:56 Pilcrow xenkey, ah, I'm understanding more of this now. is the secret keyword just "KEY" in your code though? lol
21:56 xenkey yeah
21:59 Pilcrow looks like it only displays messages for now, though. I assume you're gonna make it edit auth.txt and auto-grant privs? or maybe just add the player's name to a viewable document...
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22:08 xenkey I'm faffing around in the least humane way possible
22:08 xenkey Trying to print the motd properly
22:08 Pilcrow lol
22:12 xenkey I literally cannot put an integer in a string in any sane way
22:14 Pilcrow really? is the typing that strict?
22:15 Pilcrow you should program this in BASIC instead! *trollface*
22:16 xenkey Sure
22:16 xenkey I'll just scrap all this and switch to BASIC
22:16 Pilcrow lol
22:16 xenkey hell, let's use assembly
22:17 xenkey no thats too hard lets use binary
22:18 Pilcrow assembly is a great idea! but make sure it's PDP-11 assembly, in a virtual machine. that's where it's at...  B)
22:23 xenkey Twisted:
22:23 xenkey fuck you
22:24 xenkey You don't need a bytestring
22:26 xenkey can't concat bytes to str
22:26 xenkey hate you
22:26 xenkey Off to ##python I go...
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22:43 Pilcrow_ my browser crashed. I'm back.
22:43 xenkey hi!
22:44 xenkey 3>Using browser clients
22:44 xenkey You at work or smth?
22:45 Pilcrow_ no, I just can't be bothered to figure out how to set up a client. I did it at one point, in a different computer, but I don't remember how...
22:47 xenkey It's easy
22:47 xenkey Look how sexy they are http://a.pomf.se/ipajry.png
22:47 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/fkbqyf.png
22:50 Pilcrow_ xenkey, which client is that?
22:51 Pilcrow_ irssi maybe?
22:52 xenkey Pilcrow_: weechat :)
22:52 xenkey Check this http://a.pomf.se/sdshrd.png
22:54 Pilcrow_ I like the look of weechat. maybe I'll check it out.
22:55 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/nbbuhf.png
22:58 Pilcrow_ tiling wm? looks nice, but not for me, thanks. I'm fond of maximized windows.
23:02 xenkey Mod+f is your friend
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23:02 xenkey And that was floating
23:02 xenkey Er sorry that *was* tiling
23:02 xenkey NHS should just give out apples
23:03 xenkey They seem to restore normal bodily function
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23:03 Pilcrow_ NHS?
23:09 Pilcrow_ oh, you meant national healthcare? maybe?
23:11 xenkey ye
23:11 xenkey http://a.pomf.se/hyoyrp.png
23:12 Pilcrow_ ^ what am I seeing here?
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23:17 Pilcrow_ weechat is being a pain to build. lots of dependencies I need to build, too. now I need asciidoc, guile, and ruby...  -_-
23:19 xenkey Pilcrow_: What OS are you on?
23:19 Pilcrow_ an OLD one.
23:20 paramat dungeon generation is complex and each element is randomised, the variety is vast, effectively infinite =)
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23:22 Pilcrow_ xenkey, it's Arch Linux (well, Chakra, to be exact), but it needs a new install. I haven't used this laptop in a long time. the 32-bit repos are done since Chakra switched to 64-bit only, and the last time it was officially updated was late 2012. I need to wait until I can afford more backup media though; my 1TB external is full...
23:22 Pilcrow_ s/done/gone/
23:23 xenkey Arch linux eh
23:23 xenkey sudo pacman -S weechat :^)
23:24 Pilcrow_ well, chakra is a fork of arch. it works mostly the same, and uses pacman, but it isn't directly compatable with arch repos. and the old 32-bit repos are dead. so no, anything I install must be built from source...
23:27 Pilcrow_ I think I'll try to get KVirc working, since that's already installed; there's just too much I need to build to get weechat working...
23:31 xenkey Try irssi
23:31 xenkey looks similar
23:38 Pilcrow_ eh, I looked at it, it's apparently pretty popluar, but doesn't have as nice a layout as what you showed me. meh. I might just keep using the web chat...
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23:54 Pilcrow_ I wish I could find the cover by Pinball Jukebox of David Bowie's "Let's Dance", but it seems like it was only ever in the boxtrolls movie; I can't seem to find an mp3 or youtube vid of just the song...  :(
23:55 Pilcrow_ ^ I can't find that cover, I mean. the original kinda sucks. but the cover is all creepy and melodic.
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23:59 xenkey Holy fuck
23:59 xenkey It's 1 in the morning
23:59 xenkey Shit

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