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Pilcrow_ |
lol. only 7pm here |
| 00:00 |
xenkey |
http://mtcm.eu/py/minerequest/ check the last commit |
| 00:03 |
Pilcrow_ |
lol. starting to look good, xenkey. |
| 00:04 |
xenkey |
Yeah it sort of works |
| 00:06 |
Pilcrow_ |
sort of? why only sort of? |
| 00:09 |
xenkey |
cuz |
| 00:09 |
xenkey |
idk what went wrong i forgot |
| 00:10 |
xenkey |
its 1 in the morning m8 |
| 00:11 |
Pilcrow_ |
lol. maybe you should go to bed? |
| 00:11 |
Pilcrow_ |
it's still sunny here. you jelly? :P |
| 00:12 |
xenkey |
Very jelly |
| 00:12 |
xenkey |
I wish I had some jelly... |
| 00:12 |
xenkey |
Do you have jelly? |
| 00:12 |
xenkey |
If you did I would totally be jelly |
| 00:13 |
xenkey |
You could eat me |
| 00:13 |
Pilcrow_ |
O_o ... in that case no, I have no jelly. :P |
| 00:13 |
xenkey |
Oh but |
| 00:13 |
xenkey |
THIS IS WHY I GO TO BED AT 10 |
| 00:13 |
xenkey |
I just read what I put... |
| 00:14 |
xenkey |
I like my misc http://a.pomf.se/pwiemy.png |
| 00:14 |
Pilcrow_ |
(I probably do, actually, but I can't be arsed to check) :D |
| 00:14 |
xenkey |
lol |
| 00:14 |
xenkey |
What does one do with a new server> |
| 00:15 |
Pilcrow_ |
put jelly on it? |
| 00:16 |
Pilcrow_ |
wait. my friend's little sister is nicknamed jelly. don't put her on it. :P |
| 00:16 |
xenkey |
Hehe |
| 00:16 |
xenkey |
jelly (missing): |
| 00:16 |
xenkey |
required by: world[jelly] |
| 00:17 |
xenkey |
NOOOO |
| 00:17 |
Pilcrow_ |
looks like your jelly is missing... |
| 00:17 |
xenkey |
I hate it when that happens |
| 00:17 |
xenkey |
One minute it's missing the the next it's there |
| 00:17 |
xenkey |
The other way round |
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xenkey |
So many symlinks http://a.pomf.se/hgycvy.png |
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Pilcrow_ |
heh. yup |
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Pilcrow_ |
I made jelly that doesn't really exist! the file command says "jelly: broken symbolic link to `jelly'" :P |
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xenkey |
Going to bed. Cya. |
| 00:41 |
Pilcrow_ |
bye xenkey |
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ipv6b |
sfan5, have we not played before together? |
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sofar |
anyone know how to "pick up" (not harvest) bushes from the bushes mod? e.g. strawberry bushes |
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sofar |
nobody? |
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sofar |
hmmm, looks like it's not supported |
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sofar |
-- TODO: add support for nodebreakers? those dig like mese picks |
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sofar |
should just use shovel as tool here |
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sofar |
aha, reading the code I see now that that works, lol :) |
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is there a mod that disallows placement of lava bucket above sea level? |
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efrahim |
Hi. My game won't start. If I just run "minetest" it simply stops after Irrlicht log message with GLSL version, turning on "--trace" it stops after 'OpenALSoundManager: "main_menu" not found.', no menu opens. Only warning/error messages are that it cannot find the main_menu.[0-9].ogg files. |
| 11:40 |
Calinou |
efrahim, what operating system do you use? |
| 11:40 |
Calinou |
try self-compiling the game |
| 11:40 |
efrahim |
Calinou: GNU/Linux Gentoo |
| 11:40 |
Calinou |
http://github.com/minetest/minetest |
| 11:52 |
efrahim |
Calinou: Hmm... would be nice to figure out why it is wrong though. Anyhow, compiling the source from github gives me the error "Subgame specified in default_game [minetest] is invalid" |
| 11:53 |
efrahim |
Calinou: With "--trace" it stops at the same point as before. |
| 11:55 |
xenkey |
efrahim: did you clone minetest_game into games/ ? |
| 11:56 |
efrahim |
xenkey: woops. That solved the "default_game" error, still the same problem though. |
| 11:57 |
xenkey |
Try with -DENABLE_SOUND=1 |
| 11:57 |
Calinou |
sound is enabled by default |
| 11:57 |
xenkey |
Or whatever turns it on |
| 11:57 |
xenkey |
Hrm |
| 11:57 |
Calinou |
you need libogg, libvorbis, libopenal |
| 11:59 |
efrahim |
Calinou: they are all installed (and allready pulled in by Gentoo portage when installing mintest from portage) |
| 12:00 |
jin_xi |
maybe try --gameid list and then start with --gameid <game> |
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Salbei |
efrahim: you use the version in portage? |
| 12:03 |
efrahim |
jin_xi: Tried all combinations of {minetest from portage, mintest from git} and {--gameid minetest, --gameid minimal} all game the same thing. |
| 12:04 |
efrahim |
Salbei: Yes and no. I'm testing with both now. |
| 12:04 |
Salbei |
efrahim: I have a layman overlay for gentoo users with the 0.4.12 inside: https://gitlab.com/Salbei/incolab-overlay |
| 12:04 |
Salbei |
minetest and minetest_game |
| 12:06 |
efrahim |
Tried to compile with "-sounds" from potage with gets rid of the "main_menu" error. Still the menu does not pop up (sometimes I'm able to see the main menu show up for an instance and then vanish) |
| 12:06 |
efrahim |
Salbei: ok. I would like not to use overlays, but I will take a look and see if it could help figure out the problem. |
| 12:26 |
efrahim |
Salbei: Hmm... that is even a not-in-layman type of overlay. The minetest 0.4.12 in games_overlay does not work, the difference seems to be (by comparing ebuilds) is where to place the binaries. Still, it has the same problem. |
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spideyjaden |
Is popularity on? |
| 12:46 |
spideyjaden |
Hello jordach! |
| 12:46 |
spideyjaden |
I,m Spideyjaden |
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efrahim |
I seem to have gotten somewhere. The windowed mode does not start at all, if I enable fullscreen in my minetest.conf the game starts in 800x600. If I add 1920x1080 also to my conf it does not start anymore, likely because when running "minetest --videomodes" a 1080 res is not there -- why? |
| 13:55 |
efrahim |
Salbei: Are you also running irrlicht 1.8.1? |
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Zeno` |
what video modes does it list? |
| 14:05 |
Zeno` |
The windowed most is not supposed to start if fullscreen is enabled btw (how would that make sense?) |
| 14:10 |
xenkey |
Hi everyone! |
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xenkey |
Jordach: Can you add treecapitator? |
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efrahim |
Zeno`: Full video modes list: http://pastebin.com/XyBw8kKB Not sure what you mean. What I meant is that if a put "fullscreen = false" in my config, a window appears for an instance and then vanish and I get no error, if I instead put "fullscreen = true" it starts, but only on a few choices for video modes. |
| 14:29 |
Zeno` |
type: xdpyinfo | grep dimensions |
| 14:29 |
Zeno` |
(in a console) |
| 14:31 |
efrahim |
Zeno`: Outpout: "dimensions: 2944x1080 pixels (774x284 millimeters)" |
| 14:33 |
efrahim |
Zeno`: That is a funny one since I have xrandr set up to give VGA output (1920+1024)x(max(1080,768)). |
| 14:35 |
Zeno` |
I don't see 1920x1080 there |
| 14:35 |
efrahim |
Zeno`: However, running minetest in fullscreen with, say, 1024x768 disables what I have setup with xrandr (in the sense that my desktop is no longer 2944 pixels wide) and still I have the same problem. |
| 14:36 |
Zeno` |
so xrandr (just type that) shows 1920x1080? |
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Zeno` |
xrandr | grep + will probably show your desktop resolution |
| 14:38 |
Zeno` |
it might be a driver issue and/or xorg setup |
| 14:39 |
efrahim |
Zeno`: Yes and no. It shows for my eDPI output 1920x1080 (primary) and for my VGA1 output 1024x768. (xrandr that is) |
| 14:39 |
Zeno` |
odd |
| 14:39 |
efrahim |
Zeno`: Well, I would guess that it is some incompatability feature between Irrlicht and xrandr... maybe? |
| 14:39 |
Zeno` |
irrlicht thinks you're using 1024x768 |
| 14:40 |
Zeno` |
are you using multiple monitors? |
| 14:41 |
efrahim |
Zeno`: Yes I am. I have a projector plugged in. And yes, It seems as Irrlicht ignores that eDPI is set to be primary and uses my VGA as primary, since the available modes for VGA are the same as I get from "minetest --videomodes" |
| 14:41 |
Zeno` |
yeah |
| 14:41 |
Zeno` |
I don't know what to suggest |
| 14:42 |
Zeno` |
but if VGA is your primary then of course that's what irrlicht will use to probe video modes |
| 14:42 |
efrahim |
Ok... that I can understand. Irrlicht have some problems with that, fine, but what I do not get is why I cannot start the game in windowed mode (fullscreen = false) |
| 14:43 |
efrahim |
Zeno`: Yes, but it is not. xrandr have eDPI (laptop monitor) as primary. Irrlicht should be asking xrandr for the primary device but it is not (I suppose) |
| 14:43 |
Zeno` |
you should be able to if you set screenW and screenH to (or whatever they're called) to 1024 and 768 |
| 14:44 |
Zeno` |
or something less than that |
| 14:45 |
efrahim |
Zeno`: That is the thing, that does not work. Whenever I set "fullscreen = false" with any screen[WH] values the window only pops up for an instance and then vanishes. Irrlicht says nothing about what went wrong. |
| 14:46 |
efrahim |
Zeno`: Can one tell irrlicht to be more verbose? Where is this log that irrlicht talks about? (I get output, no errors nor warnings, from Irrlicht starting with "Irrlicht log: ...") |
| 14:48 |
Zeno` |
well, maybe and maybe not. Add debug_log_level = 4 to minetest.conf and see if there is anything useful in debug.txt |
| 14:50 |
Zeno` |
what version of opengl does irrlicht say it's using? |
| 14:51 |
efrahim |
That output seems to be the same as running "minetest --trace", and does not give any output with any errors nor warnings (except the errors that says that main_menu audio files are missing, compiling with -sounds gets rids of these errors, but the same problem is there) |
| 14:51 |
Zeno` |
glxinfo | grep version is minetest/irrlicht says nothing |
| 14:51 |
Zeno` |
s/is/of |
| 14:51 |
Zeno` |
if |
| 14:54 |
efrahim |
Zeno`: glx version 1.4 (do you want the whole input of that command? I have a optimus nvidia card so the output of that command is different for running on either card, however the problem with minetest is the same on both cards) |
| 14:54 |
Zeno` |
what nvidia driver? |
| 14:54 |
Zeno` |
maybe it's a noveau driver problem, I really don't know |
| 14:55 |
efrahim |
Zeno`: It is nvidia's driver (346.47), not noveau. |
| 14:55 |
Zeno` |
I'm out of ideas then :( |
| 14:58 |
efrahim |
Zeno`: Alright. Thanks for helping me trying to debug it anyhow. Since you helped me narrow down the fullscreen thing to be because of my external monitor I have a new direction to search in. Thanks for the help! |
| 15:03 |
efrahim |
Zeno`: And... that could probably be the solution -- just unplug my projector and make xrandr not give VGA output and it might work -- however, because of optirun if I change in xrandr now optirun will drop out and I will only be able to get my nvidia card online after a reboot. So, a reboot before and after everytime I play minetest... nah... |
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xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/ewphlt.png |
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xenkey |
Voxel game furnaces, helping noobs understand parallel processing since 1999 |
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exio4 |
hi people |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/beabdj.png what do i do with this? |
| 15:54 |
VanessaE |
*pokes Zeno`* |
| 15:54 |
VanessaE |
ask him :) |
| 15:56 |
exio4 |
how is everything going? <3 |
| 15:59 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: fix yer server |
| 15:59 |
VanessaE |
exio4: it does. |
| 15:59 |
VanessaE |
goes* |
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Jordach |
u wot m8 |
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VanessaE |
Jordach: check your logs, your server did an unscheduled restart. |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
(JD-Pub that is) |
| 16:08 |
xenkey |
Jordach: T's true |
| 16:08 |
xenkey |
I was just moving iron lumps |
| 16:08 |
xenkey |
then it glitched back and i was like "fite me" |
| 16:08 |
xenkey |
it lost and won |
| 16:09 |
VanessaE |
[04-04 12:11] <JD-Pub> <frogle6> pink cave and red crash server if you dont know what your doing |
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xenkey |
... |
| 16:09 |
xenkey |
lol |
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VanessaE |
(whatever the hell THAT means :P ) |
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Jordach |
out of memory |
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xenkey |
damn, how much memory it got? |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
eep |
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xenkey |
Jordach: I think i did good http://a.pomf.se/dfduct.png |
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xenkey |
Jordach: It crashed |
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xenkey |
again |
| 16:27 |
ekem |
so would i be mistaken in saying any climbable object also has to be walkable=false? |
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xenkey |
http://a.pomf.se/ghzbpd.png rude |
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Wayward_Tab |
ekem, you would not |
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ekem |
Wayward_One: any suggestion on making a block climbable? |
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| 16:31 |
ekem |
maybe attach 4 nodes to the sides which are climbable? |
| 16:32 |
ekem |
on recipe add? |
| 16:34 |
Wayward_Tab |
The way I do it is add walkable = false and climbable = true in the node.lua |
| 16:34 |
ekem |
but then you can walk inside the block |
| 16:35 |
ekem |
the person i am helping is hoping to avoid that behavior |
| 16:35 |
Wayward_Tab |
Yeah, I haven't been able to find a way around that yet :/ |
| 16:35 |
ekem |
if we come up with one, ill pass it on |
| 16:36 |
Wayward_Tab |
Ok, thanks |
| 16:36 |
ekem |
he thinks he has a way to script the new node creation on recipe add, so ill believe him |
| 16:36 |
Wayward_Tab |
Hmm, that sounds interesting |
| 16:37 |
ekem |
should just be a procedure to identify faces not top and bottom and place_node() |
| 16:37 |
ekem |
i would think |
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Wayward_Tab |
Sounds about right |
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ekem |
just need to make a routine for breaking the parent node |
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xenkey |
best ip ^ |
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VanessaE |
grog! |
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thefamilygrog66 |
hey V, what's happening? |
| 16:49 |
VanessaE |
oh nothing much actually :) |
| 16:50 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hey, are you familiar with kaeza's firearms mod? |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
only superficially |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
never actually used it |
| 16:51 |
thefamilygrog66 |
ah, okay. It doesn't seem to be working with the mobs mod I have installed, and I'm not sure why... |
| 16:52 |
thefamilygrog66 |
any new servers on the go? |
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VanessaE |
there are tons of servers, but which ones are "new", I'm not sure |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
play on mine :) |
| 16:53 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I mean, do you have any new ones happening? |
| 16:53 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Haha |
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VanessaE |
oh heh |
| 16:54 |
VanessaE |
no, just the same old 8 servers as always :D |
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thefamilygrog66 |
I started a new one a few months ago, more of a survival horror dealio |
| 16:55 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 16:55 |
VanessaE |
hey, it's good you showed up, |
| 16:55 |
VanessaE |
someone was asking in the homedecor thread about the sofas in the lrfurn mod, |
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thefamilygrog66 |
oh yeah? |
| 16:56 |
VanessaE |
and I was *just* about to add them to the turn-into-meshnodes TODO list |
| 16:56 |
VanessaE |
(three nodes becomes one, with proper UV-mapping to boot) |
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thefamilygrog66 |
oh cool |
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thefamilygrog66 |
I haven't learned meshnodes yet |
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VanessaE |
https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/issues/198 |
| 16:57 |
VanessaE |
they're easy to make once you learn to use Blender |
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thefamilygrog66 |
yeah, still trying to wrap my mind around blender, haha |
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thefamilygrog66 |
it would be nice to be able to make my own meshes for mobs though |
| 16:57 |
VanessaE |
same thing. |
| 16:58 |
VanessaE |
:) |
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thefamilygrog66 |
I end up recycling the player mesh for most of them, since there is such a abundance of minecraft skins out there. |
| 16:59 |
VanessaE |
but mesh nodes are super easy - drawtype = "mesh", mesh = "foo.obj", tiles = { "foo.png", "bar.png", ... } (you can use up to 6 materials in the mesh, and you specify their textures in the tiles={} field) |
| 16:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
"Hey, I need a Jason from Friday the XIII mob. I'll just google a minecraft skin for it." |
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VanessaE |
and the rest of the node def after that ^^^^^ is just the usual stuff like selection and collision boxes, paramtype, etc. |
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Halamix2 |
mt-calinou, players |
| 17:00 |
VanessaE |
Halamix2: I don't think that server is on this channel. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Yeah, I'm sure I can figure it out - it's the blender learning curve I gotta deal with. |
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Halamix2 |
(sorry, irc automatically switches channel) |
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thefamilygrog66 |
I think I have the bloodiest server in minetest now, anyway. :D |
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VanessaE |
thefamilygrog66: anyways, I'm gonna convert those sofas to meshes soon-ish. you'll want to watch homedecor's commit log and pull from there periodically, copy your mod out again once I do :) |
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thefamilygrog66 |
cool thanks |
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VanessaE |
yw :) |
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thefamilygrog66 |
have you heard of a console system called ouya? |
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VanessaE |
sounds familiar but I've never seen any detailed info or pictures |
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thefamilygrog66 |
it runs a version of android, and has a number of different FOSS you can install. Anyway there's a minetest client for it. I had some players awhile back, who were completely silent, and it turns out it's because they couldn't chat while using this system |
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thefamilygrog66 |
One of them wrote me on the forums, asking for some basic signs with which to communicate with other players, so I wrote a sign mod with preset text - you can select which sign and then send its message to everyone. |
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YvesLevier |
VanessaE: btw thx VanessaE |
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YvesLevier |
Hi. Is that true that we cant manage rail junctions with mesecon? |
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YvesLevier |
Is that eenglish? |
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YvesLevier |
Also im looking for a "guichet automatique" (automatic bank service in a box (sorry i donno how to tell this in english) |
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YvesLevier |
Some1 know if it exist in minetest? (Using VanessaE textures) |
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VanessaE |
YvesLevier: actually you can manage them with mesecons, after a fashion...using sticky pistons to move rails in and out of a line |
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VanessaE |
to force a cart to go one way or another |
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VanessaE |
and there are indeed mods for banking systems - you're looking for some kind of currency or trading mod. there are a few like that |
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YvesLevier |
VanessaE: Cute enough. Thx |
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YvesLevier |
VanessaE: About automatic cash distributors.. I only need the draw. No money on my server! |
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VanessaE |
the draw? |
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YvesLevier |
i mean they dont have to work |
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VanessaE |
ah |
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VanessaE |
OH |
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VanessaE |
you want a fake ATM |
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VanessaE |
I didn't take your words literally the first time |
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hmmmm |
git version detection is so broken |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
I don't know of any mod that provides a node that looks like an ATM (working or not)... |
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hmmmm |
could we leave the git hash separate from the version number please??? |
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VanessaE |
hmmmm: yep. as of 6d61375 it still shows 0.4.11 |
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hmmmm |
aaaaaaaaaaaand /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lfreetype |
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hmmmm |
fantastic |
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VanessaE |
nice :P |
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YvesLevier |
This is politic. Our village lost our bank. I can send you a photograph of what im seeking? |
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VanessaE |
YvesLevier: sure |
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YvesLevier |
VanessaE: :) |
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VanessaE |
but I won't be the one to make it right now |
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Wayward_One |
the rack server from the computers mod in dreambuilder may serve as a good stand-in, maybe with a few tweaks |
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VanessaE |
you want this: http://www.3dmodelfree.com/imguploads/Image/0905/models_z/0727/8.jpg |
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VanessaE |
or something like it |
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VanessaE |
Wayward_One: interesting suggestion, I hadn't thought of that |
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VanessaE |
wait, I'll do you one better: |
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VanessaE |
the stereo from homedecor plus the "shefriend soo" computer from the computers mod therein |
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Wayward_One |
ah, good idea as well |
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VanessaE |
though in HDX that won't look too convincing. |
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hmmmm |
wth |
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hmmmm |
libfreetype.so |
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hmmmm |
is in /usr/local/lib |
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hmmmm |
whaddya mean cannot find -lfreetype |
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VanessaE |
hmmmm: where is minetest going? |
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hmmmm |
down the drain at this rate |
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VanessaE |
... |
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VanessaE |
your $PREFIX I mean |
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hmmmm |
I don't have a prefix |
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hmmmm |
there's something deeply wrong in any case |
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VanessaE |
so then probably /usr/local also... just a guess (minetest gets stupid if you install it to one place but certain components are installed elsewhere, like luasocket) |
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VanessaE |
hmmmm: I'd be more inclined to check the so-obvious-it-shouldn't-be-needed stuff first, like /etc/ld.so.conf |
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Zytum |
Krock: Are you backuping your server? |
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Krock |
Zytum, I was away yesterday and today. Server will be mach up tomorrow |
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Krock |
*back |
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Zytum |
ok, |
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ekem |
can you just do a bash script to zip the world files? |
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Krock |
I 7z them |
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hmmmm |
ahh okay |
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hmmmm |
I'm pretty sure the linker would not be happy with "-L/usr/local/lib-lfreetype" |
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VanessaE |
probably not. :P |
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hmmmm |
why does it not replace ";" with " " |
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hmmmm |
does it work on a regex or something instead? |
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hmmmm |
why does everything need to use regex? those are so prone to problems |
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hmmmm |
it simply omitted the ; |
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VanessaE |
https://xkcd.com/208/ ~~ https://xkcd.com/1171/ |
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VanessaE |
one of those seems relevant ;) |
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hmmmm |
okay I'm clueless |
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hmmmm |
according to cmake's website, it doesn't expect a regex |
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hmmmm |
here's FREETYPE_LDFLAGS: -- >> -L/usr/local/lib;-lfreetype |
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hmmmm |
here's FREETYPE_LDFLAGS_STR: -- >> -L/usr/local/lib-lfreetype |
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VanessaE |
maybe an escaped space? |
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VanessaE |
-L/usr/local/lib\ -lfreetype |
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hmmmm |
=] |
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hmmmm |
okay I figured it out |
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xenkey |
Hey let's rewrite Minetest in ASM, C++ is too slow. |
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hmmmm |
variable type confusion |
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hmmmm |
on another note, how can people possibly say that "freetype detection worked fiiine!" |
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VanessaE |
hmmmm: *bsd. no one *ever* uses that ;) |
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hmmmm |
this doesn't work on Linux either |
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hmmmm |
I don't see how it could |
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hmmmm |
${FREETYPE_LDFLAGS} is a list variable |
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VanessaE |
eh? |
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hmmmm |
when it's represented AS A STRING, each list element gets separated by ; |
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VanessaE |
freetype detects fine for me, always has |
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VanessaE |
of course, I just use what came from my distro's package repo |
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hmmmm |
but what that turd of code does is tries to replace using the list as input |
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hmmmm |
so you need to stringify the list first by passing "${FREETYPE_LDFLAGS}" |
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VanessaE |
stuff like that ^^^ is why I don't code for modern projects. |
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VanessaE |
whatever happened to the notion of keeping things simple? |
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orbea |
is there a way to change the view distance without a numpad? |
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VanessaE |
+ and - on the top keyboard row. |
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VanessaE |
they change the minimum view distance |
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VanessaE |
which effectively forces your view range in most situations |
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orbea |
oh, somehow thought only the numpad worked, but I gues - does too, but not = or + |
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orbea |
nvm |
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orbea |
only didn't want to work for that one moment |
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orbea |
thanks |
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VanessaE |
note that there's a glitch, some other combo of keys can cause + to quit working |
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VanessaE |
but I can't remember now which combination that was. think it involves shift, though |
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VanessaE |
(you can just exit your client and restart it to fix) |
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orbea |
it tends to fix itself too, just had someone else experience the same :Shrug: |
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orbea |
my friend says that pressing t for the chat window and then enter gets it unstuck :shrug: |
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hmmmm |
found the problem |
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hmmmm |
"-Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib" |
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hmmmm |
what the hell? |
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hmmmm |
where does this come from |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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VanessaE |
hey ruben |
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est31 |
hi |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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* xenkey |
pokes Jordach. |
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est31 |
ATTENTION ATTENTION, the user formerly known by their ip 151.228.208.35 has changed to 151.228.211.30. |
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est31 |
(at least I have strong indications that point there) |
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est31 |
you should xban that ip too if you have banned the original ip |
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herny |
ok est31 i seem to have found out how to get on irc |
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herny |
is it working or what |
| 19:08 |
est31 |
great |
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est31 |
now find a minecraft skin you want to have |
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est31 |
on the internet |
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est31 |
and send me the link with irc |
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herny |
ok where can i find them? |
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herny |
skins that is? |
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est31 |
here is a site for example: http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/ |
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ElectronLibre |
est31, you were talking about KittenHelper's new IP, isn't it? |
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est31 |
the person has many ips ElectronLibre |
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est31 |
ummm nicks |
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est31 |
ip stayed constant |
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ElectronLibre |
Yes, but this one was apparently her first one. |
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est31 |
on my server the person had the nicks besfort_ and David123_ |
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est31 |
when did KittenHelper use that nick? |
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ElectronLibre |
So it's the person that spent her time using other persons' nicknames. |
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est31 |
yes |
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est31 |
I had first contact with them on 2015-02-27 |
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ElectronLibre |
If it is KittenHelper, then it's just what she does : make people think she is someone else using their nicks, and make these people do things for her, or simply flood their channels or servers to get someone's nick banned. |
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ElectronLibre |
KittenHelper got banned from ShadowNinja server by Enke in the early January if I remember correctly, I heard of her a few days, then nothing, and she appears often since the end of February. |
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est31 |
ok |
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est31 |
whatever that person managed to enter my server again with the new ip |
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est31 |
just wanted to share that fact |
| 19:15 |
est31 |
thanks for informing |
| 19:16 |
ElectronLibre |
You're welcome. I warned people on Inchra today, as I recognized her coming back with a slightly different ident (so she could pass through bans) |
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ElectronLibre |
est31: If you want to know she also used other people nicknames on the forums, and here on freenode. She tries absolutly everywhere to make people have troubles. (great I just found in my history the logs from IRC \o/) |
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est31 |
has sfan5 already extended the ban to the new ip? |
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sfan5 |
no |
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sfan5 |
and i won't |
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sfan5 |
they haven't caused any new trouble yet |
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ElectronLibre |
Here, no. |
| 19:22 |
sfan5 |
it would be a lot of work to change bans for every person that has ever caused trouble |
| 19:23 |
ElectronLibre |
On Inchranet the only reports I got where from MinetestForFun's channels, and nanepiwo's one, so only 3. (she couldn't reach #minetest because the whole skybroadband ISP was banned) |
| 19:24 |
ElectronLibre |
There is no need to re-ban her here for the moment, just to be careful, especially servers' admins. |
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est31 |
I'm not sure, is this the person? https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=13367 |
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ElectronLibre |
I don't know. Her IP was located in UK, she looked like a kid, and she used DarkRoses as a nickname, so maybe yes, and maybe no. Without a real IP or an IRC mask I can't be sure.. |
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est31 |
also the in-game nicks are both wrong |
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est31 |
all of them |
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est31 |
and the github nick doesn't match either |
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est31 |
herny, have you found a skin yet? |
| 19:30 |
ElectronLibre |
So it's either a troll, or her. |
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herny |
yes, how do i get the link? |
| 19:31 |
ElectronLibre |
I just saw she set Xanadu as one of her nicks O_o |
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est31 |
if you are on that website, a name is enough |
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herny |
it is Oliver_MV on that site |
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est31 |
ok, you'll get it |
| 19:32 |
herny |
thanks est :) |
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est31 |
herny, when you log in now, it should work |
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herny |
thanks |
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The_Ghost_Man |
Hey guys, how is the minetest password exchange from client to server handled? |
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est31 |
in the worst way imaginable |
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est31 |
ok, second worst way |
| 19:51 |
The_Ghost_Man |
What exactly does that mean LOL |
| 19:53 |
ElectronLibre |
It means that it could be better but at least it's not sent plain and unencrypted through the network x) |
| 19:53 |
est31 |
its sent semi plain |
| 19:53 |
The_Ghost_Man |
So essentially, it's sent plain and unencrypted for those who know what they're doing? |
| 19:53 |
est31 |
everybody who has network access to one login, can then login as you as often as you want |
| 19:54 |
est31 |
but they wont get the password itself without a brute force |
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The_Ghost_Man |
So it's an Sha hash which is essentially just sending the password itself? |
| 19:54 |
est31 |
yes |
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est31 |
md5 I think |
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est31 |
but not sure |
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est31 |
no its sha1 |
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The_Ghost_Man |
I'd be better proxying my connection through ssh then. |
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est31 |
it is a known issue to core devs |
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est31 |
note that then your performance may suck, as ssh is tcp |
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The_Ghost_Man |
Noted |
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hmmmm |
cmake is good in theory but |
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hmmmm |
i would like if it had more structure to it |
| 21:13 |
hmmmm |
effectively it has the same issue as having an application with lots of global variables, except you can't even see what's declared and what's not |
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acspike[pi] |
This is what minetest says when it starts up on my rpi http://dpaste.com/0JS7QD3 |
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acspike[pi] |
yesterday I thought it was a software renderer, but it is a software rasterizer |
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xenkey |
Cool story |
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acspike[pi] |
is there anything in this paste that someone in the know would suggest I change to make it faster? |
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