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00:19 est31 how can I enable luasocket?
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00:26 est31 ah weird packaging
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00:50 cheapie Here's something that I just built, I think mesecons/pipeworks devs will especially like it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5sxaQZmg90
00:50 est31 VanessaE, what is your irc setup?
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00:50 Zeno` oh oh
00:50 Zeno` here we go again hehe
00:51 Zeno` the old irc mod difficulty
00:51 est31 lol
00:51 est31 How can I specify the port?
00:51 Zeno` I'll look at my config
00:52 Zeno` irc.port =
00:52 est31 should be in the readme.md
00:53 Zeno` should be... submit a patch to ShadowNinja :p
00:53 est31 not kaeza?
00:55 Zeno` yeah that's a better idea xD
00:55 Zeno` their nicks are so similar I get them mixed up
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01:01 est31 its saying that sasl was successful, but the server doesnt connect to the irc
01:01 est31 to the channel I mean
01:02 est31 and then the connection times out
01:02 est31 Zeno` ?
01:02 Polsaker well
01:03 Zeno` hmm. You've set irc.channel I assume
01:03 Polsaker eiter it isn't sending the CAP END thing or it isn't sending the NICK/USER commands
01:03 Polsaker :p
01:03 est31 irc.channel is set
01:03 Zeno` is irc.NSPass applicable?
01:03 est31 irc.channel = ##trepca
01:04 est31 I'm doing irc.sasl.pass
01:04 Zeno` hmm
01:04 est31 i have also tried it with irc.channel = #trepca
01:04 Polsaker est31, don't use sasl then
01:04 est31 :isis.inchra.net 903 Trepca :SASL authentication successful
01:04 est31 thats what it sais
01:05 Polsaker apparently it is bugged on that plugin :p
01:05 Zeno` does isis support sasl?
01:05 Polsaker est31, mind sharing the rest of the log (but please obfuscate the AUTHENTICATE part)? so we can know at least what's failing there? <_<
01:07 est31 working :)
01:07 est31 did one # and no sasl
01:07 Polsaker uh
01:08 Polsaker weird bug
01:10 est31 Polsaker == ShadowNinja ??
01:15 Polsaker (Polsaker != ShadowNinja && Polsaker == Polsaker) == true
01:15 Polsaker :P
01:15 est31 ok thx
01:15 est31 because already Tesseract == ShadowNinja
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02:03 Tesseract est31: All InchraNet servers support SASL plain, external, and ecdhe_nist256_challenge, or whatever it was called.  I've used SASL with the IRC mod successfully before.  Can you show me your logs (just redact the base64 payload of one if the AUTHENTICATE commands).
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02:39 est31 Tesseract, http://pastebin.com/ezqDpuGV
02:48 est31 Tesseract, can I get shadowbot too for #trepca?
02:49 est31 its just when I log off and the server is offline, sb else could deop
02:49 est31 also I want to do ~protect
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03:00 Tesseract est31: Hmmm, yes, probably missing a CAP END.
03:02 Tesseract est31: hooks.lua, preregister: Add conn:send("CAP END") at the end.
03:09 est31 Tesseract, yes now it works
03:09 est31 if you fix that, can you also add the irc.port option to the readme?
03:30 est31 Tesseract, how can I set up the ~protect command?
03:34 est31 is there a way to do nick completion with the smuxi irc client
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04:20 Inocudom sfan5 Zeno` CraigyDavi: It would be convenient if the actions tied to the mouse could be reassigned. Some of the keys on the keyboard can't be used for binding.
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06:16 Inocudom Bye.
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08:19 Calinou we have about 600 mods in Mod Releases!
08:26 est31 cool
08:27 est31 I guess we have a far higher mod/player ratio on minetest than any oth other voxel game
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09:33 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Extraterrestrial Culture Day! :-D
09:33 Trixar_za Is there a way to hide mod 'global variable used' error messages from displaying on a server?
09:33 Trixar_za E.T.C. Day?
09:34 JamesTait So I'm told. It's on the intarwebz, so it must be true. ;)
09:36 Trixar_za Somehow it sounds like an elaberate fake holiday joke :P
09:36 init hi
09:38 jin_xi Trixar_za: there are some ways, the one i like is kind of dirty, but...
09:39 jin_xi you can comment the dofile in builtin/init.lua that loads strict.lua
09:40 init global variable used, or..?
09:40 init I thought it warned about possibly-unused global variables
09:41 init anyway, mutable global state is the root of all evil, not global variables
09:41 Trixar_za It also comes up when a mod coder didn't use local - although sometimes that was intentional and setting it local only breaks the damn mod.
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09:42 init uhm?
09:42 init Trixar_za: set the global variables to x=nil
09:43 init I am paranoic, and I actually think some kind of gradual typing would be the way to go with it
09:44 Trixar_za or I could just disable the most unhelpful error message that shows up in the client window instead :P
09:44 init I am pretty sure people would get annoyed if lua catched certain kind of bugs at 'compile-time'
09:45 Trixar_za Yes, but what point does it serve having it show up on a server. That's what log files are for.
09:46 Trixar_za Unless a bug will break the server, I don't really think players want to know about it.
09:47 init annoying warning is a nice way to make people actually make it stop annoying
09:47 init stop being*
09:47 init aka fixing stuff
09:48 est31 yea
09:48 Trixar_za And only useful to a mod developer
09:49 init not having the users annoyed is a great motivation
09:49 LazyJ You're not the only one who feels that way Trixar_za.
09:50 LazyJ If the person running the server can't fix the mod, it may be annoying enough for them to drop Minetest and switch to a different voxel game.
09:51 Trixar_za Thanks LazyJ. My users have been saying my server is buggy because of those messages - and the missing textures one. Neither of which affect gameplay though. This is the same users that have no access to the hosting server.
09:51 LazyJ The last thing Minetest needs is to be alienating players and those who would be interested in hosting a Minetest server.
09:51 Trixar_za And my Lua skills are only mediocre, so I can't fix every badly written mod :/
09:51 init maybe it'll help to improve the quality of mods
09:51 init which pretty much is quantity over quality
09:52 init (I am not saying there aren't quality mods out there, btw)
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09:57 Trixar_za I like jin_xi's suggestion though :P
10:07 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Network Layer 7 rework (Packet handling) a704c04 http://git.io/Nfl6 (2015-02-10T20:04:08+10:00)
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11:25 MinetestBot [git] ngosang -> minetest/minetest: Fix Exit to OS button focus in Pause Menu dd2bb95 http://git.io/NfyA (2015-02-10T21:23:16+10:00)
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13:48 alket hi VanessaE
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13:49 alket inchranet is blocked for me, even the web page doesn't work
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15:47 MinetestForFun Hi everybody
15:49 MinetestForFun Someone know a way to do a /spawnentity mobs:sand_monster to a specific position ? (like a "/spawnentity mobs:sand_monster -10 10 -5")
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16:04 alket what does meat do ?
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16:06 MinetestForFun the meat give you health/hunger points
16:07 MinetestForFun maybe you need to cook it
16:07 MinetestForFun (with a furnace..)
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17:25 rubenwardy Hi all!
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17:26 shadowzone Hello, rubenwardy!  How are you?
17:26 rubenwardy Good thanks.
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17:26 Calinou http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_​item&amp;px=Intel-Boot-Guard-Kills-Coreboot
17:26 rubenwardy I'm currently working on a gravity simulator to add to this project: http://rubenwardy.com/physics_simulation_kit/
17:26 rubenwardy (HTML5 XD)
17:27 rubenwardy It uses relativity principles as well as F = Gm1m2 / r^2
17:27 Selah Hmm, cool
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18:05 CatZone So, this morning, I git pulled Minetest_Game and it didn't run, is there a reason for this?
18:05 ElectronLibre You pulled it in $minetestdir/games with the name "minetest_game"?
18:07 CatZone Yep
18:08 ElectronLibre What error do you get?
18:08 CatZone It's on my gaming rig.
18:08 CatZone Lemme wake it up
18:10 CatZone pastebin.com/PxWkYmsF
18:10 ElectronLibre Send the last line of minetest.conf in a paste (http://pastie.org/) when you've got them.
18:11 PilzAdam CatZone, read the README about engine compatibility
18:12 CatZone And then on the windows side it wouldn't run cause norton would yell at me
18:13 ElectronLibre Create an exception in your firewall, it's the only way minetest will be able to reach the internet, then start the game, and paste the error so we will see it clearly.
18:13 CatZone It's on the linux side
18:13 CatZone I'm dual booting
18:14 CatZone The Linux side is the one with the minetest_game error Minetest won't even run in Windows.
18:15 CatZone I'll have my dad look at it when he gets home, he gets this stuff.
18:15 ElectronLibre Ok, so either you get the logs in debug.txt (not minetest.conf sorry) on the Linux side from the windows side or you have to reboot on Linux.
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18:16 Trixar_za Is there a way to kill all spawned mobs?
18:17 PilzAdam /clearobjects
18:17 ElectronLibre maybe /clearobjects yes,
18:17 ElectronLibre but it will aslo remove all the objets in the map (dropped items, animals, anything except players and particles)
18:17 ElectronLibre And be careful, you're going to get a big lag by using /clearobjets, but it's just temporary.
18:18 CatZone I don't get lag at all with /clearobjects on my Gaming PC
18:18 PilzAdam "big lag"? its more like a not responding server for some minutes
18:18 CatZone Which has a AMD radeon and a Gigabyte Hard Drive
18:18 CatZone *motherboard
18:19 ElectronLibre PilzAdam: that's what I wanted to say, but I couldn't find the right words.
18:19 PilzAdam CatZone, in singleplayer?
18:19 ElectronLibre Try on a map full of mobs, and then tell us..
18:19 PilzAdam the number of objects doesn't if affect it very much
18:19 PilzAdam the map size mainly does
18:20 CatZone Yeah
18:20 PilzAdam in singleplayer you most likely don't notice the lag due to good client side prediction
18:20 ElectronLibre It explains lot of things..
18:20 PilzAdam and your map is probably rather small
18:21 ElectronLibre Sometimes we have to do it during a full day to get all the entities cleared on some multiplayer servers..
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18:43 Krock hi
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19:31 Inocudom sfan5 Zeno` CraigyDavi: It would be convenient if the actions tied to the mouse could be reassigned. Some of the keys on the keyboard can't be used for binding.
19:32 Inocudom Calinou: What say you concerning my above post?
19:33 sfan5 Inocudom: did you open an issue for that on github
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19:40 Inocudom No. I don't have a GitHub account, but posting it here should at least make this issue known.
19:40 Jordach Inocudom, the issue / request will be ignored
19:40 Jordach nobody gives two fucks unless it's on the tracker
19:42 Inocudom That is a very foolish request to ignore. How can this community expect to keep players around if they stick their nose as high as the sky at every request.
19:42 Jordach because you try putting useful notes in random places
19:42 Inocudom I don't know; maybe Irrilicht just can't handle such a request.
19:42 Jordach it can
19:43 Jordach i didn't want to share my card details with digitalocean, so i gave it to paypal instead
19:43 Jordach so i skinned a cat with an alternate method
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19:43 Inocudom Sometimes, I wonder if the forums have much of a purpose these days.
19:44 Jordach they do, it keeps idiots out of development's reach
19:45 Inocudom I am not surprised by the attitude this community has adopted these days. RoundSaturnsEye and Alan Watt warned me of such things. Oh well, can't change the will of the gods I guess, if you know who I mean by the gods.
19:46 Jordach PFFT
19:46 Jordach if god existed i wouldn't want to meet him
19:46 PilzAdam TIL Jordach is "the community"
19:46 Jordach he created insects that eat children's eyes
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19:47 Jordach plebian pls
19:47 Inocudom There is a difference between the true creator and the god of this world (Satan/Saturn.) The cruel, vengeful god is Saturn.
19:47 Jordach right, nearly set my VM up to standards
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19:47 Jordach s/VM/VPS
19:48 Inocudom If anyone thinks that Satan is a good guy, then consider the fact that he is the father of the gods and godesses of this world.
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19:49 Inocudom That applies to Lucifer too, by the way, for he is one with Satan, therefore he is pure evil too.
19:49 Jordach quit the preachin
19:49 Jordach i'm still waiting for witnesses to knock on the door
19:51 PilzAdam Inocudom, see you made a post about Ebola recently
19:51 Inocudom The Jehovah's Witnesses have been pestering my household. They have ties with Freemasonry, so don't trust them. I certainly don't.
19:51 PilzAdam how do you view the way it turned out?
19:52 Inocudom That post was made a few months ago, but Ebola and its results are still serious. Same goes for all the other new diseases and viruses.
19:53 Inocudom Half Life is not entirely fiction. There is a lot of truth in it. Ever heard of CERN?
19:55 PilzAdam CERN is an accelerator for the LHC
19:55 Jordach m8
19:55 Jordach wikkid kill streaks m8
19:55 Inocudom That game had one of the most memorable deathmatch experiences of my life. I would get it again, but I don't care for Steam.
19:56 PilzAdam Inocudom, what about the CERN?
19:57 Inocudom And Steam, for all intents and purposes, is the only way to get it. Sure, you could purchase a an old Sierra Half Life cd-rom, but there's no guarantee that anyone would use WON.
19:58 Inocudom CERN and the LHC smash particles together. They themselves state that things could be sent and things could come through with it.
19:59 Inocudom If you have played Half Life, then you know about the resonance cascade/portal storm in it. That phenomena could actually happen.
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20:01 PilzAdam how could things "be sent" or "come through with it"?
20:01 JakubVanek you mean neutrinos coming out?
20:02 Inocudom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw3KuNgD-jE
20:02 JakubVanek i think some particle accelerator generates neutrinos as side product
20:03 Inocudom Basic video of how it works. BPEarthWatch did a video on the machine, however: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQUJrnOdrAk
20:04 Inocudom The basic lesson learned from that video and Half Life is this; when you mess with the very fabric of space and time, there will be consequences.
20:05 Jordach Inocudom, HL1 keys are legit keys on Steam
20:06 Inocudom Did not know that, Jordach.
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20:12 PilzAdam Inocudom, the second video doesn't seem very... scientifically
20:14 Inocudom It's not.
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20:16 PilzAdam <Inocudom> CERN and the LHC smash particles together. They themselves state that things could be sent and things could come through with it.
20:16 PilzAdam could you explain your statement then?
20:16 PilzAdam what are things?
20:16 PilzAdam who are "themselves"?
20:17 Inocudom the things would be matter and particles from other dimensions.
20:18 PilzAdam dimensions as in "up", "left", "right"?
20:18 Inocudom More like other wavelenths/layers of the universe.
20:19 Inocudom You know, like in Half Life.
20:19 Jordach TIL the universe is made of cakey layers
20:19 PilzAdam I don't know the story of Half Life
20:19 Inocudom Here is another video on CERN: http://youtu.be/_NMqPT6oKJ8
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20:20 PilzAdam I do know the basics physics on that matter (no pun intended)
20:20 PilzAdam so, by "dimension" you actually mean "parallel universe"?
20:21 PilzAdam now, who said it "themselves"?
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20:21 Inocudom Yes, parallel universe.
20:21 Inocudom Themselves would be the folks at CERN and associated with it.
20:22 PilzAdam I doubt that
20:22 Inocudom Here is where you can find the plot of Half Life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wik​i/Half-Life_%28video_game%29
20:22 PilzAdam parallel universes are a philosophical theory
20:22 PilzAdam there is no evidence that such parallel universes exists
20:23 PilzAdam and, following the theory, there can't ever be any such evidence
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20:23 Inocudom Not according to Fringe they're not.
20:23 PilzAdam since the parallel universes are disconnect in every way
20:24 Inocudom Also keep in mind the old anime, Noozles.
20:24 Jordach sfan5, synopsis of the above pls ^]
20:24 ElectronLibre It's known, Fringe is a very good scientific source for informations. (some of them are REALLY true by the way, but not the craziest ones)
20:24 sfan5 Jordach: what?
20:24 Jordach >old anime, Noozles.
20:25 Jordach you're the go to guy to ask that shit
20:25 Inocudom It's the anime about the a girl named Sandy and her Koala friends from a border world.
20:25 Jordach >10.9M/s
20:25 Jordach dat speed
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20:26 Inocudom It aired on Nick Jr. along with the following show, which is also an anime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=713qnUlJvKY
20:27 PilzAdam Inocudom, so, you take this philosophical theory of a multiverse (which isn't founded in physics) and connect it with the plot of a game and an anime?
20:27 Inocudom The Litt'l Bits was (and is once again) a foundational pillar for my creative thoughts.
20:28 PilzAdam and yet you still somehow connect it to the CERN
20:28 Jordach PilzAdam, more creative than me
20:28 * Jordach cracks out the weed
20:30 Inocudom PilzAdam: Will this do? http://youtu.be/ypMKjxUe0BE
20:32 PilzAdam can you sum it up for me?
20:32 PilzAdam I don't want to watch the whole video
20:33 Inocudom They talk about extra dimensions in the video.
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20:34 PilzAdam do they just talk about the philosophical theory or do they link it with their work as physicists?
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20:47 Jordach Zeg9, o hai der
20:47 est31 lets hope he has chanserv
20:47 PilzAdam oh, der hai
20:47 est31 how can I check whether sb has chanserv identification?
20:48 PilzAdam /whois
20:48 PilzAdam * [Whois] est31 is authed as est31
20:49 est31 great
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20:54 Inocudom They link it with what they do. You don't have to watch the video, just listen to it as it plays in the backround. They even talk about gravity and energy.
20:55 Inocudom Their view of extra dimensions can be viewed as other worlds as they are different from ours.
20:56 est31 how can I check whether there is a nickserv registered for sb?
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20:56 ElectronLibre /msg NickServ info <nick>
20:57 ElectronLibre ^ This should give you what you need about an user's registration on NickServ.
20:57 est31 /msg NickServ info Zeg9
21:02 VanessaE est31: *poke*
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21:03 est31 oh /me got poked
21:04 Jordach ಠ_ಠ
21:04 Jordach >tried to detatch terminal
21:04 Jordach >screen not installed and running
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21:05 Jordach >tries to kill server, auto reload script
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21:07 bleak_fire_ hi
21:07 Jordach ಠ_ಠ 12k files to archive
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21:13 bleak_fire_ what is the mod that allows set a home and teleport back to it?
21:13 ElectronLibre sethome mod in minetest_game.
21:14 bleak_fire_ ok
21:15 VanessaE ;op
21:15 VanessaE grr
21:15 * ElectronLibre gives VanessaE '!'
21:15 bleak_fire_ ok
21:15 JakubVanek i personally love travelnet
21:15 bleak_fire_ what's the mod that lets you keep your stuff after dying
21:15 VanessaE ^^^ fake Zeg9
21:16 ElectronLibre Thanks VanessaE.
21:16 est31 Thanks
21:16 ElectronLibre Travelnet is different, he allows you to create lifts, and many teleport points, but sethome allows only one per player.
21:17 bleak_fire_ yep
21:17 VanessaE oops, did that wrong
21:17 bleak_fire_ i want that too
21:17 VanessaE there.
21:17 bleak_fire_ trying to set up a single player setup after servers i like
21:18 ElectronLibre To do what exactly?
21:18 bleak_fire_ not a fan of multiplayer because you have to deal with pk'ers. last night i was online and it was really really bad
21:18 VanessaE pk'ers?
21:18 bleak_fire_ player killers
21:18 VanessaE oh.
21:18 PilzAdam [22:15:56] <VanessaE> ^^^ fake Zeg9 <- hm?
21:18 bleak_fire_ i found a server where i didnt have to worry about it that much, and where protection was easy to make
21:19 bleak_fire_ (vitamin pizza server)
21:19 PilzAdam VanessaE, is it forbidden to use the username "Zeg9" here?
21:19 VanessaE PilzAdam: yeah it is, because there is a real Zeg9 who has been here before, and that ^^^ person was masquerading, badly.  asking for elevated access in IRC channels, etc.
21:20 Amaz PilzAdam, that person has impersonated people on loads of servers.
21:20 ElectronLibre PilzAdam, he wan't logged with NickServ, using webchat, his IP was located in a country which is not Zeg9's one, he didn't know how to log in using NickServ, and asked for Op on some channels, it's enough to warn people.
21:21 ElectronLibre *he wasn't
21:21 est31 and a user with his IP asked on a server I'm admin on for the auth.txt
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21:29 Calinou <elios> eric s. raymond "plolitical activist"
21:29 Calinou plol
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21:33 JakubVanek g
21:33 JakubVanek sorry, finger pressed wrong button
21:34 ElectronLibre Bad finger.
21:35 shadowzone Time to amputate!
21:37 est31 and to put it into the "bad fingers" chest
21:37 * ElectronLibre prepares a chainsaw.
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21:37 * Amaz thinks an axe would be better...
21:38 * shadowzone thinks a lazer cutter would be better
21:38 shadowzone It would cauterize it at the same time so he won't bleed.
21:38 ElectronLibre No blood? That's not intreresting.
21:39 ElectronLibre Let's try with a stone axe!
21:39 shadowzone Meze!
21:39 Amaz Wood!
21:40 ElectronLibre Wood? He would be dead before we even started to split his bones.
21:40 shadowzone steel!
21:40 shadowzone pfff
21:40 * Amaz proposes using a pickaxe!
21:40 ElectronLibre Stone would give him time to feel his finger go away before fainting.
21:41 shadowzone mese!
21:47 bleak_fire_ why does intllib show ? after i install it?
21:47 Calinou bleak_fire_, what do you mean?
21:47 Calinou intllib does nothing in itself
21:48 Calinou it's a mod used by other mods for translations
21:48 bleak_fire_ unzipping intllib into the mdos directory still makes it shows as intllib? in the mods list
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21:50 alket so sheeps get removed on night :s
21:50 alket i just made a farm of them :s
21:51 Calinou alket, give them wheat
21:51 Calinou at least 1 wheat (right-click)
21:51 Calinou 8 wheat = their wool regrows
21:52 alket thanks Calinou
21:52 bleak_fire_ doesnt "?" mean a dependency you dont have installed?
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21:54 Amaz That's an optional dependency.
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21:54 bleak_fire_ oh ok
21:54 bleak_fire_ i thought it meant i needed it
21:54 bleak_fire_ and it wasnt installed
21:54 Amaz It means that if the mod is present, then it will be used, otherwise, the mod will work without it, but it may lack files.
21:54 bleak_fire_ even though it was in the list
21:57 bleak_fire_ is "unified_inventory" the inventory used on servers where you have the "set a home spot", crafting guides, etc?
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21:59 JakubVanek probably yes
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22:04 bleak_fire_ just need "mg" now (which can't be searched for as it's 2 characters)
22:05 JakubVanek putting my bad finger to the time crack would suffice
22:05 Amaz https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=7263
22:05 Amaz That may be the mod you are looking for.
22:06 Amaz bleak_fire_ ^
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22:06 Inocudom VanessaE: It would be convenient if the actions tied to the mouse could be reassigned. Some of the keys on the keyboard can't be used for binding. However, I was told that nobody would care unless it was mentioned on GitHub.
22:07 bleak_fire_ villages! awesome
22:07 Inocudom So much for using the forums and irc if that is the case. Also, N on my keyboard still toggles camera update. I don't know why; I have no such function assigned.
22:09 VanessaE Inocudom: file a github issue :)
22:09 VanessaE it's not that no one cares
22:09 VanessaE it's that if you mention it here, it'll get lost
22:09 VanessaE and if you mention it on the forum, devs just won't likely see it at all
22:10 VanessaE and if you're not using a qwerty layout (e.g. you're on dvorak or something) it's gonna screw with your keyboard mapping anyway
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22:10 VanessaE (hence the problem with the 'n' key)
22:11 bleak_fire_ "Mob" always implies "hostile", right?
22:11 bleak_fire_ e.g. in the animals pack
22:11 bleak_fire_ it appears that way
22:11 est31 no
22:11 est31 there are also sheeps and chicken
22:11 est31 and cows
22:11 bleak_fire_ yep i know
22:11 bleak_fire_ but those arent listed as "mobs"
22:12 bleak_fire_ sorry
22:12 bleak_fire_ i mean
22:12 bleak_fire_ in the animals pack
22:12 est31 ok
22:12 bleak_fire_ there's "animal name" and "mob animal name"
22:12 est31 ah ok
22:12 bleak_fire_ which sosunds like something will attack you
22:12 bleak_fire_ actually i think i'll just keep it safe and enable only a few animals
22:15 bleak_fire_ hmm failed to load tinytrees
22:18 bleak_fire_ gotta disable stuff to slow it down so i'll just do that
22:26 bleak_fire_ mg = Premade ruins! Fun!
22:32 VanessaE bleak_fire_: technicaly, the term "MOB" (all capitals) predates minetest/minecraft/etc abd means "movable object block"
22:32 VanessaE and*
22:32 VanessaE so it can stand for anything that moves, whether it's an animal, an NPC, or a hostile monster.
22:33 VanessaE (in the old days, it was synonymous with "sprite" as the term was defined then)
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22:33 Calinou short for “mobiles”, too
22:37 Inocudom VanessaE: I am on a querty layout, but OpenArena, World Of Padman, and even Sauerbraten are much more flexible with command assigning. I don't know why Minetest did not go that way.
22:38 Inocudom It probably has to be done with ports to android and such anyway.
22:38 VanessaE unlikely
22:38 est31 android came later
22:38 VanessaE the spotty keyboard/mouse assignment features were always that way really
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22:38 bleak_fire_ oh
22:39 bleak_fire_ i thought "mob" meant a mob of people out to get you
22:39 bleak_fire_ vs peaceful npcs
22:39 bleak_fire_ gotta grab soime dinner bbl
22:40 alket how to clean the blocks on road, which you drop when you're full ?
22:42 VanessaE alket: get the item_tweaks mod and enable the "pickup" mode
22:51 est31 Tesseract: do you have write access to worldedit? can you merge https://github.com/Uberi/M​inetest-WorldEdit/pull/71
22:52 alket thanks
22:52 alket how to get honey from bees
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23:10 bleak_fire_ back
23:11 bleak_fire_ well thank you guys for helping me out with the mods for single player
23:11 bleak_fire_ it's like, all it takes is such a small minority of people to ruin the multiplayer for everyone
23:11 bleak_fire_ and i'm glad i can have all the stuff i liked
23:12 bleak_fire_ it was like 4 or 5 people constantly teleporting to me and pk'ing me when i was trying to build a house
23:12 bleak_fire_ i wasnt gonna let them win. i was up til 7 am
23:13 bleak_fire_ so it's great just to have irc here and play single player
23:13 bleak_fire_ not worry about gang bangers
23:14 VanessaE also, don't grant teleport to anyone
23:14 VanessaE or bring
23:15 VanessaE there's no reason for players to have that
23:15 Inocudom You wouldn't want to play Xonotic/OpenArena/World Of Padman then. In deathmatches, getting god-rushed is quite the norm.
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23:15 VanessaE (if you ever run your own server I mean)
23:15 bleak_fire_ ok
23:15 VanessaE if you wanna play on a quiet server where such things generally don't happen, try mine
23:16 bleak_fire_ i play openarena all the time
23:16 Inocudom As there are many players in those games that are extremely skilled (gods, super gods, and hyper gods.)
23:17 bleak_fire_ that's an fps though
23:17 bleak_fire_ not an open world
23:17 bleak_fire_ have you seen me (redblade7)?
23:17 bleak_fire_ been playing for years
23:17 bleak_fire_ that and urbanterror and sauerbraten
23:17 bleak_fire_ just started css and cs:go
23:17 Inocudom I don't think so.
23:17 bleak_fire_ (those games are tough)
23:17 VanessaE I don't play FPSs hardly at all, and never online, so I wouldn't have seen you.
23:18 bleak_fire_ on openarena i would use either ciggaweed or cookie jar
23:18 Inocudom Urban Terror... I swear there is a luck factor to that game. Sauerbraten just doesn't seem to advance much (and poo poo to the lack of custom player model support.)
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23:19 bleak_fire_ i dont believe i remember "inocudom" do you use a different name for fps games?
23:19 luizrpgluiz can anyone help me generate construction?
23:20 VanessaE luizrpgluiz: please rephrase.
23:20 Inocudom I did use to play Sauerbraten. Got bored with it though.
23:20 bleak_fire_ urbanterror and openarena are a lot more fun
23:21 Inocudom In OpenArena and World Of Padman, I am now known as --<Inocudom>--
23:21 bleak_fire_ urbanterror is a better game, while openarena has better graphics
23:21 bleak_fire_ i used to play the modded padman servers on urbanterror that arent there anymore i dont think
23:23 luizrpgluiz I was thinking of doing a simple mod that generates a building
23:23 Inocudom Yeah, but urban terror doesn't really support custom player models and its maps have no pickups (but at least there's no instagib.)
23:25 Inocudom Urban Terror and Smokin' Guns seem like the hardest Quake 3 mods to make custom player models for, due to the hit registering systems that they have.
23:26 Inocudom It's also sad that the vast majority of Urban Terror's maps are never used on servers.
23:31 luizrpgluiz VanessaE: I was thinking of doing a simple mod that generates a building
23:31 VanessaE Sokomine already has such a mod
23:31 VanessaE talk to her about it, she can give you tips and pointers I'm sure
23:33 luizrpgluiz Sokomine: hi,can you help me? I am wanting to create a mod where a building is generated in the world
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23:34 VanessaE luizrpgluiz: you don't have to repeat yourself.
23:34 VanessaE if she's here, she will have seen my ping.
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23:41 luizrpgluiz ok
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