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00:45 zBuilder nope. not this one
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01:21 luizrpgluiz someone already messed with world generator?
01:21 zBuilder ?
01:21 jin_xi luizrpgluiz: you can do entire world gen in lua if you like, hmmmmmm has posted an example on the forums
01:22 jin_xi https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=18&t=6396
01:34 jin_xi here is an example: http://i.imgur.com/ocAyR1x.png
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01:37 luizrpgluiz jin_xi: which is responsible for generating this file changed world?
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03:31 thefamilygrog66 what should I check, if the public server list isn't showing up in my client?
03:32 LazyJ Your server isn't showing up on the list or the list isn't showing up?
03:33 LazyJ The former is some minetest.conf lines, the latter... I have no clue.
03:34 Miner_48er did you check the public Serverlist checkbox?
03:48 thefamilygrog66 LazyJ: the latter
03:49 thefamilygrog66 Miner_48er: yes, it's checked
03:49 thefamilygrog66 Just wondering if there's something else that I need to install - running a fresh ubuntu 12.04 install
03:49 thefamilygrog66 standalone compiled git client
03:51 LazyJ The compile, umm... string?... may need something.
03:52 LazyJ cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=ON -DENABLE_CURL=ON -DBUILD_CLIENT=1 -DENABLE_GLES=1 -DENABLE_SOUND=ON -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1
03:53 LazyJ Ommit the last part about DENABLE_LEVELDB. Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't have all the required libraries, iirc.
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04:04 Yepoleb Where is the 3d player skin texture located? All I can find are the player.png and player_back.png files, which are only used for the 2d model.
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04:05 cheapie thefamilygrog66: Any particular reason you're using 12.04?
04:06 cheapie 14.10 is probably out, or 14.04 if you want LTS (I think that's how Ubuntu's versions work, anyway. It's been a while since I've used Ubuntu).
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04:07 thefamilygrog66 LazyJ: I just copied/pasted the compile string from the wiki, adding --STANDALONE=1 at the end.
04:07 thefamilygrog66 cheapie: old laptop, and 12.04 is supported for awhile longer
04:08 cheapie How old of a laptop?
04:08 thefamilygrog66 hmm, let me check...
04:09 thefamilygrog66 haha, 9 years old
04:09 LazyJ Ubuntu's "LTS" releases are every 2yrs at April (04).
04:09 LazyJ So 14.04 was the last LTS.
04:09 thefamilygrog66 it's a toshiba tecra a6
04:10 LazyJ The LTS releases are supported for 6 or 7 years, iirc.
04:10 cheapie 512MB of RAM? Ouch.
04:11 LazyJ We are running Ubuntu 12.04 but are starting to run into issues with outdated or non-existent dependencies/libraries for stuff beyond Minetest.
04:11 thefamilygrog66 no, I have 2 Gigs in it now
04:11 thefamilygrog66 and I just threw a 120GB SSD - minetest 0.4.11 runs beautifully on it (with the shaders turned off)
04:12 cheapie That sounds perfectly capable of a modern version then (maybe not Ubuntu with its bloated UI, but something like LXDE should be fine).
04:12 LazyJ As for why the list isn't showing up when everything else is?
04:13 cheapie LazyJ: It... doesn't like you?
04:13 LazyJ Has the recent unstable releases introduced a bug?
04:13 LazyJ *Have the recent...
04:13 * cheapie checks on his copy of MT
04:14 cheapie Server list works fine here, and I just pulled earlier today.
04:14 LazyJ We're still running 0.4.10 on the server so I can't compare (server to server).
04:14 cheapie I hardly ever /use/ it, but it works.
04:14 thefamilygrog66 Not sure - I have the same setup (though a slightly earlier 0.4.11) running on another computer here, and the list shows up.
04:15 LazyJ My client is usually the latest unstable release but that doesn't count in this case.
04:15 thefamilygrog66 Not a big deal really, just thought there might be a dependency I'm missing
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04:15 thefamilygrog66 Also, 12.04 is supported for another 2 years, apparently.
04:15 LazyJ Beyond me, grog.
04:15 thefamilygrog66 No worries.
04:15 LazyJ ;)
04:16 Miner_48er servers.minetest.net
04:16 thefamilygrog66 I'm just happy to get some more life out of the ol' laptop.
04:16 thefamilygrog66 ^^^ yes
04:17 thefamilygrog66 Interestingly, 0.4.11 crashes when I try running it on the same laptop, with a Windows XP drive in it.
04:19 thefamilygrog66 What the heck is a "pangolin" though?
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09:47 * Krock tries to compile minetest using zlib 1.2.8
09:51 * Krock failed
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09:59 Krock wait no. it works after manipulating gettext.cpp >:D
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10:09 Krock yeah man
10:10 est31 zlib is used for compression while transport and curl?
10:10 Krock idk :3
10:10 Krock damn, öäü characters are broken now
10:11 est31 was there atime they werent
10:11 Krock yes
10:11 est31 question what do you mean by broken
10:11 Krock they don't display anymore
10:11 Krock however, I'll upload the codes to let you see what I changed
10:12 est31 so when you select the tab "Einzelspieler" you dont get kreativitätsmodus?
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10:17 Xack hi Calinou
10:17 Xack :)
10:17 Calinou hi
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10:24 Krock est31, I get that label but without the ä
10:24 Krock est31, https://github.com/SmallJo​ker/minetest/commit/1c5dd
10:25 Krock that change allowed me to use zlib 1.2.8
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10:27 Krock all non-ASCII characters are ignored
10:29 est31 hate the missing Unicode support in MT
10:31 Calinou what's the difference between Unicode and UTF-8?
10:34 sfan5 unicode is the specification of characters
10:34 sfan5 utf-8 is a way to encode unicode
10:35 Calinou thanks
10:40 Arch-TK "the codes"
10:41 Arch-TK -_-
10:41 Arch-TK I'll go back to breaking my kernel.
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11:01 Caleneledh Is there anywhere I can get some useful information on Technic's api?  I tried reading the code, but my Lua skills are lacking lol.
11:02 Caleneledh I want to make a particle accelerator, and have no idea how to tie things into Tecnhic.
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11:18 est31 Caleneledh: there is a channel #minetest-technic, and also I can help. In 10 mins?
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11:37 Calinou browser tip of the day: Ctrl + Tab switches between tabs
11:37 Calinou useful to click lots of buttons
11:37 Calinou Ctrl + Shift + Tab does the same, but backwards
11:42 est31 can be also achieved by ctrl + pgup  and pgdown.
11:43 Calinou I moved a bunch of mod topics
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11:50 est31 mine too yeey!
11:56 Hirato > past the year 2005
11:56 Hirato > not using Tree Style Tab
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12:25 ElectronLibre I just thought of something, has anyone ever thought that /give[me] could handle multiple itemstring/quantity in their given parameters?
12:29 LazyJ You mean like: "/giveme cobble 99, wood 300, wool:white 500"?  Yeah, that would be useful.
12:30 ElectronLibre Yes, something like that. A couple days ago I was giving me a full inventory and even with /give[me] it was a pain.. I'm gonna work on this, maybe open a PR when it's done.
12:30 LazyJ Also being able to give multiple players the same item all at once: "/give klappspaten,shadowpawn84,ubuntuyou admin-pick"
12:31 ElectronLibre Yes, why not.
12:32 ElectronLibre So it would check if param2 is an itemstring, if it's not then if it's a player, and do that until the end of the list.
12:32 LazyJ "  /give LazyJ steak_dinner,coffee,chocolate_sundae" should be *top* priority! :0)
12:33 * ElectronLibre writes down.
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14:27 reber hi
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14:36 luizrpgluiz hi
14:37 alket hi luizrpgluiz
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14:47 reber ideas ? : http://pastebin.com/XkYskDrg
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15:10 est31 reber: update your minetest to use version 0.4.11
15:10 reber est31, already done ...
15:12 est31 aww
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15:12 est31 For this particular problem, it may be better to install an older version of minetest.
15:13 est31 one released before april 2014
15:13 Calinou edit the mod and remove the error
15:13 est31 or remve the mod
15:13 est31 remove the wheather dir
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16:00 luizrpgluiz someone made a map generator mod?
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16:05 JakubVanek is minetest.add_particlespawner dead or alive? i saw diff/gist from ShadowNinja which changed it's arguments to particlespawnerdef table
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16:06 JakubVanek but idk if it is commited
16:10 Krock luizrpgluiz, Wuzzy did. his new origin mod
16:11 Krock it generates an amazing origin and offers you almost infinite creativity
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16:16 jin_xi JakubVanek: its alive, use a table for argument afaik
16:18 JakubVanek thanks
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16:34 reber est31, thanks it worked
16:34 reber i can't make the boat mod work ideas ?
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16:56 reber what is the name of the mod to have help in invetory ?
16:56 reber all recipes help in inventory
16:58 Krock unified_inventory
16:58 Krock or inventory_plus and zcg
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17:00 rubenwardy Hi all!
17:00 ElectronLibre Hello rubenwardy.
17:00 rubenwardy Would you like to hear 5 myths about leather sofas and furniture?
17:00 rubenwardy :D So boring.
17:01 rubenwardy Would you like to hear five myths about the Streptomyces bacterium?
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17:08 VanessaE good morning all.... or something
17:08 Birdy_ Hi
17:09 Birdy_ what place is this
17:09 * ElectronLibre substracts and deduct it's not going to be morning for a long time in the US. Hello VanessaE.
17:09 acerspyro it's noon here
17:10 Birdy_ it is morning though .its 9:10
17:10 VanessaE it's noon but my brain still thinks its like, 8am or so
17:10 Birdy_ where are you
17:10 VanessaE north carolina.
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17:10 * Jordach got up at 2pm :D
17:10 ElectronLibre It's the evening around here in France..
17:11 acerspyro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnaEqxu1-qE
17:11 Birdy_ how do i irc
17:12 Birdy_ im in CA
17:12 acerspyro Birdy_: u rtfm n u lrn 2 spk l33t
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17:12 acerspyro And you fuck with everyone
17:12 VanessaE "how do I irc" ?
17:12 Birdy_ ?
17:12 * VanessaE sihs
17:12 VanessaE sighs*
17:12 Birdy_ what vulgar language
17:12 * acerspyro grabs VanessaE by the nuke, and slaps his hand on her forehead
17:13 marktraceur Birdy_: IRC Isn't Really Censored
17:13 acerspyro When you need to facepalm someone else to achieve the desired effect...
17:13 ElectronLibre Birdy_, they've already said worse than that.
17:13 Birdy_ is confused
17:13 acerspyro Birdy_: IRC is freedom
17:13 Birdy_ what
17:13 acerspyro Learn to deal with it
17:14 Birdy_ wait how i said worse
17:14 acerspyro IRC has no rules, except from common sense, and here, swearing is not part of common-sense unless the channel is dedicated to being kid-friendly
17:14 * ElectronLibre can't remember how many bad words he learnt here.
17:14 ElectronLibre Birdy_, I said "they", not "you".
17:14 Birdy_ oh
17:14 acerspyro Oh you also need to learn to read to use IRC
17:14 ElectronLibre Or if you're abusing another user.
17:14 ElectronLibre Then it's forbidden.
17:14 acerspyro ElectronLibre: IRC rape?
17:14 Birdy_ yes
17:14 Birdy_ ?
17:15 ElectronLibre The exact word is more "insult" but I accidentaly swapped it with "abuse" sorry.
17:15 acerspyro lol
17:15 Birdy_ ok so im new here but how do i play minetest and irc
17:16 acerspyro You can't play irc lol
17:16 acerspyro go to the website, download it
17:16 Birdy_ ? feels dumb
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17:16 acerspyro That's normal
17:16 ElectronLibre Start it, and then play.
17:16 acerspyro You didn't inform yourself before coming here
17:16 Birdy_ tbh idk what im doing
17:16 marktraceur Is there not a link to the website in the topic? Apart from the server list...
17:16 marktraceur Birdy_: http://minetest.net/
17:16 marktraceur Download. Play.
17:16 acerspyro marktraceur: nopr
17:16 acerspyro e
17:17 Birdy_ im on tablet but whats pc
17:17 marktraceur Jesus christ
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17:17 Jordach MY SIDES
17:17 marktraceur Birdy_: I'm not sure there's a reliable mobile port yet
17:17 acerspyro ARGH
17:17 acerspyro IT HURTS
17:17 Birdy_ ?
17:17 acerspyro SO BAHAHAHAHAD :D
17:17 VanessaE oh for G*d sakes
17:17 VanessaE you don't know what a PC is?
17:18 ElectronLibre Personal Computer.
17:18 acerspyro LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
17:18 acerspyro OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
17:18 marktraceur Calm your shit, guys
17:18 Birdy_ i probaly do but ok whats pc
17:18 VanessaE you know?  a desktop computer?  the thing through which your tablet probably connects to the internet?
17:18 marktraceur Birdy_: It stands for "personal computer", but it's usually meant to mean "not Mac OS X"
17:18 acerspyro THAT MADE MY DAY LIFE
17:18 ElectronLibre Those little things so called "Desk computers" or "Laptop".
17:18 marktraceur But it definitely means desktop or laptop.
17:18 Birdy_ ohh ok so how do i play minetest on a pc
17:19 marktraceur Birdy_: By downloading it.
17:19 Krock acerspyro, I don't get the joke. could you please explain me that?
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17:19 Birdy_ wdy mean
17:19 VanessaE Birdy_: you download the PC-based client from the website you were given.
17:19 ElectronLibre Launche minetest.exe then, and play.
17:19 marktraceur Birdy_: http://minetest.net/download
17:19 Birdy_ oh cant not allowed too
17:19 marktraceur Well then you're screwed
17:19 Birdy_ but thx
17:19 marktraceur Sorry mate
17:19 ElectronLibre From a tablet it's normal.
17:20 Birdy_ i see
17:20 Birdy_ so is thia just a chat room
17:20 marktraceur Yes.
17:20 Birdy_ ?
17:21 Birdy_ oh so if i were on minetest would you still be able to chat and read
17:21 ElectronLibre No.
17:22 Birdy_ then how do people have their name @IRC
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17:22 marktraceur There is a chat system inside of Minetest, but it's not the same system.
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17:23 Birdy_ ok so im confused TBH i know nothing of how all this works
17:23 marktraceur Clearly
17:23 Birdy_ its obvious huh
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17:23 marktraceur Birdy_: Minetest is a game that is played over the network. It communicates game data, player data, and chat data over the network.
17:23 marktraceur Birdy_: IRC is a TOTALLY SEPARATE THING from Minetest. It sends chat data over the network, but not in the same way.
17:24 marktraceur Birdy_: You can register an account on a Minetest server by logging in to it. So I can log in to MarkTraceur on a server that doesn't have a person registered under that name, anytime.
17:25 marktraceur Birdy_: You can register an account on Freenode, which is this particular IRC network, by contacting NickServ, which I have done for MarkTraceur.
17:25 rubenwardy Oh dear
17:25 twoelk this is a general minetest related irc channel, some game servers have a channel of their own, some are connected like the inchra.net network of some eight or so gameservers
17:26 acerspyro My fucking god...
17:26 marktraceur RIP Birdy_.
17:27 ElectronLibre I think I'm gonna print the logs and put them in a frame hung over my chimney.
17:27 acerspyro "I just wanna be buddies"
17:28 acerspyro That was the best one I've seen of my life
17:28 ElectronLibre It's gold, it's even mese.
17:28 acerspyro I'll see if I can get back the log
17:28 ElectronLibre Here we go : http://irc.minetest.ru/min​etest/2015-02-08#i_4147135
17:30 acerspyro http://pastie.org/9903650
17:30 acerspyro gnu backgammon...
17:30 acerspyro I didn't see that line.
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17:32 twoelk a list of game server irc channels might come in handy by now. I wonder how many there are. I think I noticed some five or six. With the inchra network there must be a dozen servers with connection to some irc channel
17:32 marktraceur #lpgc-minetest of course (though I'm not sure if our server is actually running)
17:32 marktraceur Er no.
17:32 marktraceur #libreplanet-gaming
17:32 marktraceur lpgc-minetest is the IRC bot.
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17:50 Birdy_ Hi
17:50 acerspyro FUCK
17:50 * acerspyro hides
17:50 Birdy_ ?
17:51 Birdy_ :/
17:51 ElectronLibre He is still a little bit shocked after your last visit.
17:51 ElectronLibre Don't be afraid.
17:51 Birdy_ i dont understand wym
17:52 ElectronLibre He was just very surprised that you didn't know what "PC" stands for.
17:52 Birdy_ what did i say/do thats shocking
17:52 marktraceur acerspyro: Be nice, jeez
17:53 Birdy_ Oh yeah .ok well now i know
17:53 ElectronLibre "<Birdy_> im on tablet but whats pc" <= This has litteraly destroyed him.
17:53 acerspyro lol
17:53 marktraceur ElectronLibre: You too.
17:53 Birdy_ :(
17:54 ElectronLibre Yes but after that I got back to normal.
17:54 ElectronLibre s/normal/quite normal
17:54 acerspyro I'm still shocked
17:54 acerspyro :P
17:54 acerspyro I got mind blown right there
17:54 marktraceur It's not that big of a deal
17:54 Birdy_ ok i get it
17:55 marktraceur Your going on about it only serves to make Birdy_ feel bad
17:55 marktraceur So stfu, acerspyro
17:55 marktraceur God damn it
17:55 marktraceur This is the fucking bullshit
17:55 marktraceur This right
17:55 marktraceur her.
17:55 marktraceur e.
17:55 acerspyro I shut up after you told me.e
17:55 acerspyro e.e
17:55 marktraceur The fucking bullshit that made me leave for so long.
17:55 marktraceur You guys treat people like shit, you step all over their good faith efforts so fucking frequently
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17:55 marktraceur Show some goddamned courtesy.
17:56 acerspyro Here's courtesy for ya
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17:56 Birdy_ its ok though imuaed to thi s kinds thing
17:56 ElectronLibre Even I've been quite surprised, I stop now. And this part's signature is mean.
17:56 rubenwardy He might know it as just a "Computer".
17:57 Birdy_ i shock some one everyday
17:57 rubenwardy Also, ElectronLibre watch your use of "litterally" :P
17:57 Birdy_ i want to be a computer engineer
17:58 ElectronLibre Why? Does it mean something special in english?
17:58 Birdy_ ?
17:58 rubenwardy http://theoatmeal.com/comics/literally
17:58 ElectronLibre (because I use too many adverbs in french so I translate them when I write >_>)
17:58 Birdy_ ok so
17:59 rubenwardy Oh, okay. You are excused if it's not your native language. I assumed you were American.
17:59 Birdy_ wow
18:00 ElectronLibre Oh I see. It's the same meaning than it's in french but in english it have to be exact, in french it's just a way to exaggerate (and say something exact too).
18:00 VanessaE the thing is, I deal with so many kids on my servers' channel who ARE American, who speak just as Birdy here does, rubenwardy, that it has become almost impossible to tell anymore.
18:01 Birdy_ so now wghaok
18:01 Brains ElectronLibre: It means the same in English, it has just been abused to the point that folks get testy about its non-literal use.
18:01 ElectronLibre VanessaE: I would like to understand how kids speak as well as you do.
18:01 VanessaE marktraceur: but be fair, there's no excuse for not knowing what a PC is.  they're ubiquitous.  everyone's seen one, most people own one.  to not know what one is is a sign of willful ignorance in 95% of cases.
18:02 VanessaE ElectronLibre: I'm not a kid.  that's one reason.
18:02 rubenwardy He's probably about 9/10. The iPad race
18:02 ElectronLibre Indeed, and you have to deal with them on Inchra's IRC channels.
18:02 rubenwardy I can't find it in me to correct a toddler when he says "can I have a go on the iPad?" and it is a Nexus 7.
18:02 VanessaE oh derp.  I misread what you said.
18:02 ElectronLibre That's what I was going to say rubenwardy :/
18:04 VanessaE it's part of having grown up in an era when textspeak didn't really exist, and "u", "r", "k" was frowned upon.  "netiquette", as much as we generally hated the word, was expected of everyone.  Then Eternal September happened.
18:04 ElectronLibre Most of today's kids start using tablets, and not PCs, I know people who can't use a mouse but have no problem with a tablet using the same OS than their computer.
18:04 Brains rubenwardy: Corrections are usually not optimal anyways.  The best move is to understand what they meant and then make sure you use the proper terminology yourself.  Kids (and humans in general) are super sponges as long as you don't get their back up.
18:04 rubenwardy Yeah. That't my reasoning, Brains.
18:04 Brains VanessaE: Still happening...
18:04 ElectronLibre "nettiquette" is made out of a french word if I remember correctly..
18:04 VanessaE Brains: case in point.
18:05 VanessaE ElectronLibre: "network etiquette"
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18:05 Brains ElectronLibre: English clubs other languages over the head and steals their vocab and grammar.  Too bad, it is ours now.  =:P
18:05 rubenwardy I don't usually use text speak at all. Only when limited by characterd
18:05 rubenwardy or the keyboard sucks
18:05 rubenwardy welcome back, Birdy_
18:05 Birdy_ Hi
18:05 ElectronLibre So, same word in english and french, "etiquette". Brains: We stole loads of words from english (week-ends, emails, parkings, etc...)
18:06 ElectronLibre rubenwardy: I would NEVER use text speak if I had the choice.
18:06 rubenwardy I agree
18:06 VanessaE rubenwardy: I don't even use textspeak when I'm texting on my cellphone.  it's got a full keyboard and decent auto-predict and auto-correct, and I pay attention to what's being written, so my tests actually come out as full messages, with a bit of grammar compromise for the sake of brevity.
18:06 ElectronLibre My english is already that bad :°...
18:06 Birdy_ Oh i use it here
18:06 VanessaE my texts*
18:07 rubenwardy I use "lol", "iirc", "afaik", "brb" and "gtg".
18:07 Brains ElectronLibre: Yeah, but you guys have an offical language...  The closest thing English has is some old guys who figure out what people are saying enough to write down.  (OED)
18:07 Birdy_ But texting a person i know i text normal
18:07 VanessaE Birdy_: never, under any circumstances, ever EVER use text speak on IRC.  Please.
18:07 * Calinou writes full texts, always
18:07 VanessaE Birdy_: you will be chastised heavily for doing so.
18:07 Birdy_ Why
18:08 rubenwardy VanessaE will fly over to your house, slap you, and talk to your parents
18:08 Birdy_ Why?
18:08 rubenwardy She has one brown and one green eye
18:08 Birdy_ Why?
18:08 rubenwardy boogeywoman. D:
18:08 VanessaE Birdy_: because this is IRC, and most of us here have real keyboards (as in the kind you see in movies).  IRC is a chat medium designed around the idea that you should never need to abbreviate your words.  This is not twitter, you don't have to limit your messages to 140 chars.
18:09 Birdy_ Ok
18:09 ElectronLibre Brains, you know, in France, about 200 years ago, we were still writing as we would, there could be 4 ways to write a word, but today precise grammar have been settled and thaught to children.
18:09 VanessaE or 160, whatever it is.
18:09 ElectronLibre It is 140.
18:09 Birdy_ So lol. I should wrire it out then?
18:09 VanessaE ok, then 160 for an SMS I guess.
18:09 VanessaE Birdy_: that's not textspeak.
18:10 VanessaE those are standard abbreviations that predate the internet.
18:10 ElectronLibre In fact, even if you send a big message, it will be shown into 2,3,4,etc.. messages.
18:10 VanessaE stuff like that is generally okay.
18:10 Birdy_ Ok .
18:10 Brains Which was the luck of some poor sap's cellphone message design that had nothing to do with texts in the first place...  And then got copied by twitter 'cause apparently people have trouble with long form messages...
18:10 VanessaE ElectronLibre: not always.  Some IRC clients will just truncate the message.
18:10 VanessaE (mine splits it)
18:10 ElectronLibre Mine too, it's more clever to me.
18:10 Birdy_ ?
18:11 Birdy_ Wyd.
18:11 VanessaE wyd?
18:11 Birdy_ Yes wyd?
18:11 ElectronLibre Pff..
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18:11 VanessaE that's the third or forth time you wrote that.  what does it mean?
18:11 Krock _what _you _doing
18:11 * ElectronLibre grabs a paper and starts writing translations from text speak to english.
18:11 Birdy_ tes
18:11 Birdy_ ?
18:11 VanessaE that's an example of textspeak.
18:11 VanessaE don't use that here.
18:11 Krock totally exciting situation
18:12 Birdy_ so is that bas
18:12 VanessaE hell I use "idk" an awful lot lately when I know I shouldn't.
18:12 Birdy_ bad
18:12 Krock bad as snake
18:12 ElectronLibre Maybe some of the most known like "idk" or "iirc" could be ok but avoid using them.
18:12 Birdy_ Omg no That requires effort
18:12 VanessaE Birdy_: when you use textspeak in this medium, it makes you look uneducated or lazy.  you don't want that.
18:12 Krock Using proper text is much easier to understand
18:12 sfan5 IMO it isn't do bad
18:12 sfan5 did i do it right?
18:13 VanessaE "omg, that requires effort".  and this, ladies and gentlemen, exemplifies the problem :-(
18:13 sfan5 s/do/so/
18:13 Birdy_ Actually your right. I want to be sophisticated?
18:13 VanessaE you want to be *normal*
18:13 Birdy_ No smarter
18:13 Brains Adequate would be a better word...  Normal sucks.
18:13 Birdy_ Sorry
18:13 VanessaE as smart as you normally are, no more and no less.
18:13 Brains Adequate is a minimum
18:14 Birdy_ This is going to far
18:14 VanessaE come off dumb, and people will tend to ignore or berate you.  come off as smart and people will think you're making it all up or call you liar, blowhard, etc.
18:14 Birdy_ Actually I don't do normal?
18:15 VanessaE you do normal every day when you talk to your friends.
18:15 Birdy_ No . They think I am everthing other than normal!
18:15 VanessaE well that's the impression you give them.  I wonder why that is?
18:16 Birdy_ But normal is boring
18:16 VanessaE so?
18:16 Birdy_ So? its no fun
18:16 VanessaE normal is only borin if you let "boring" define your "normal" state.
18:16 Brains Birdy could be a decent troll...  Certainly got the channel engaged.
18:16 VanessaE boring*
18:16 VanessaE brb
18:16 rubenwardy Classic VanessaE sentence ^
18:16 Birdy_ I am never bored
18:17 Birdy_ That tends to happpen
18:17 VanessaE bored != boring.
18:17 sfan5 ugh
18:17 sfan5 cuda-6.5.19-1-x86_64     151,5 MiB   641K/s 14:17 [####------------------]  22%
18:17 sfan5 i hate updating cuda
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18:17 Caleneledh Bored = lazy
18:17 Calinou 641 KB/s is twice as fast as my connection, sfan5
18:17 Calinou also, CUDA is evil
18:17 Brains sfan5: Let the nVidia haterade flow please.
18:17 VanessaE as a matter of fact, you can be incredibly bored and still be the most interesting person on the planet.
18:18 VanessaE one often comes with the other, as a side effect of being interesting or smart.
18:18 Birdy_ I am very intersested in peole
18:18 sfan5 Calinou: it would go faster (13xxK/s) if i wasn't also download arch linux for the odroid-c1 right now
18:18 Brains VanessaE: You can't see it but I'm miming the hand motions that my 1st grader's teacher uses to remind them to capitalize at the front and punctuate at the end.  =:P
18:18 VanessaE the smarter the person, the harder it is for that person to remain engaged and therefore the more likely it is for that person to get bored (assuming a lack of sufficient stimulus)
18:18 Calinou nice
18:18 sfan5 Brains: nvidia is the only option if you use linux and want working drivers
18:18 Birdy_ so many errors
18:18 sfan5 also I'm not even sure for what i need cuda
18:19 VanessaE sfan5: AMD works fine for me.
18:19 Calinou sfan5, in 2015, Intel provides perfectly working drivers
18:19 sfan5 i installed it for some reason
18:19 Calinou so does AMD, although they should be avoided for obvious reasons
18:19 VanessaE Birdy_: you'll notice that at no point do I resort to textspeak or "u", "y", and so on.
18:19 sfan5 Calinou: intel does not make video cards
18:19 Calinou IGPs for the win
18:19 Birdy_ Ok so do you think i am dumb
18:19 VanessaE my grammar suffers a bit, and I make some typos, but that's all
18:19 Brains sfan5: Nope.  Even if my Radeon HD6950 isn't completely supported (6950/70 specifically has some interesting quirks), I'm pretty happy with the radeon OSS drivers.
18:19 VanessaE Birdy_: nope.  not dumb.
18:19 VanessaE you are only as dumb as you let yourself be.
18:19 Birdy_ Are you sure?
18:20 VanessaE you want to be smart?  learn.
18:20 VanessaE you want to be dumb, be lazy and stick you nose in video gams all day.
18:20 VanessaE the choice is yours alone.
18:20 Birdy_ Now you are being sassy
18:20 sfan5 VanessaE, Brains: i had to/wanted to set up amd drivers on a linux system once; had to downgrade xorg; 5/10 would not recommend
18:20 * Calinou is LESSy!
18:20 Calinou </CSS joke>
18:20 Calinou sfan5, Catalyst sucks
18:20 sfan5 i know
18:21 Brains sfan5: I had an nVidia card once, it caught fire.  0/10 would recommend for smores.
18:21 Birdy_ I hardly
18:21 Caleneledh I can't use Catalyst.  Not supported with my card/xorg combination.  OSS drivers work fine for me though.
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18:21 VanessaE Birdy_: nope.  I don't sass.
18:21 VanessaE Birdy_: if you interpret my messages as being sass, then you have a preconceived notion about me that you need to reconsider.
18:22 sfan5 i think i should just uninstall cuda
18:22 sfan5 i don't need it anyway
18:22 sfan5 >Gesamtgröße der entfernten Pakete:  1466,15 MiB
18:22 VanessaE sfan5: that's only for mining, BOINC and the like isn't it?
18:22 sfan5 yes
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18:22 sfan5 my gt 520m sucks for any of those tasks anyway
18:22 * VanessaE looks at sfan5's LTC balance... ;)
18:22 sfan5 and i still have OpenCL
18:22 sfan5 VanessaE: 0.0
18:22 VanessaE haha
18:23 Calinou fun fact, PSA, whatever: the “OSS” radeon drivers depend on proprietary firmware (no source code)
18:23 Calinou unlike most Nouveau cards which can work without
18:23 sfan5 0.0 as in zero not as in O.O
18:23 Calinou Intel has the same problem, but the firmware is on the CPU itself.
18:23 VanessaE sfan5: so I assumed :)
18:23 Calinou so it works on Linux-libre and Debian default
18:23 Calinou no microcode updates, so it'll be slower…
18:23 sfan5 i don't like nouveau
18:23 Calinou lol GT 520M
18:23 Calinou joke card
18:24 sfan5 it freezes everything on my laptop
18:24 Calinou Nouveau does work here, but is slow
18:25 sfan5 <Calinou> lol GT 520M
18:25 sfan5 this laptop is 3 (or 4?) years old
18:25 sfan5 and that card works well
18:25 Calinou an IGP would be better
18:25 Calinou without causing all the issues of a dedicated card
18:25 sfan5 my intel cpu has an igp
18:26 Calinou (power usage, heat, hardware failures, …)
18:30 ElectronLibre (After having caught up all what you said, I just wanted to say that you're totally right VanessaE, only youself can chose your own life and behavior, I'm a real example of that, I'm as boring to people as I want them to think I am in real life and it works, they ignore me ^^.)
18:30 VanessaE haha
18:30 sfan5 noooooooooooooooooooooooo
18:31 sfan5 accidentally tar cvf instead of xvf and now i need to download it again
18:31 Calinou use GUI :P
18:31 * ElectronLibre gives sfan5 a fish, and a failpoint.
18:32 sfan5 ArchLinuxARM-odroid-c1-latest.tar   3%[=>                                                           ]   7.22M   821KB/s   eta 4m 37s
18:32 sfan5 yay
18:32 * sfan5 sighs
18:33 ElectronLibre <selfish_speech> VanessaE: I'm incredibly shy so I like to not have people around me, in real life (even if I feel terribly alone), but on the internet I'm more comfortable. That's it. </selfish_speech>
18:34 sfan5 Calinou: I'm not waiting for file-roller to parse the 190MB tar.gz when i already know i just want the folder called "boot"
18:34 Calinou it should be very quick to parse .tar.gz
18:34 sfan5 [citation needed]
18:34 sfan5 iirc file-roller runs tar tvf which also tests every file
18:35 Calinou call it file-troller, file-proller!
18:35 Calinou (-:
18:35 sfan5 heh
18:35 * fell is wondering, why animals_modpack-2.4.2 has a .git directory in factions.
18:41 ElectronLibre A .git directory means it comes from a git clone or a download from github, but what do you mean by "in factions"? ._.
18:41 fell In the folder named factions.
18:42 ElectronLibre Maybe factions is a submodule of animal_modpack I don't remember...
18:42 fell I assume sapier got the factions module via get
18:43 fell git
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18:56 ipv6b VanessaE, Does this ip address work? 2607:5300:60:3c0a::1
18:57 rubenwardy hmmm
18:57 rubenwardy !up 2607:5300:60:3c0a::1 80
18:58 ipv6b my pings to it work alright. rubenwardy
18:58 Calinou ping works, ipv6b
18:58 Calinou (using ping6)
18:58 rubenwardy sfan5, is MinetestBot meant to be offline?
18:59 ipv6b I'm more interested if according to http://servers.minetest.net/list if I can connect to it.
19:00 ipv6b That's where I found it as part of "VanessaE's Survival Server" port 30001
19:01 * jin_xi really wonders what the 5 myths about leather sofas and furniture are
19:03 ipv6b When connecting it only says "Conneecting to server..." but nothing else happens.
19:12 * ipv6b just watched a video about Pandacoin
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19:21 * Polsaker thinks that UltimateNate might be gay
19:28 ipv6b I posted on the relevant forum. Thx for offering IPv6 and if you any time will need help testing it out I'll be willing. Will be back later... :)
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19:44 Birdy_ Hi
19:45 Birdy_ :/
19:46 ElectronLibre Usually we don't say "Hi" every time we join (again) the channel, don't be sad if you get no answer.
19:46 Amaz Especially if you only wait under a minute.
19:46 ElectronLibre Indeed.
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19:48 Birdy_ k
19:48 Krock Temporal paradoxon: You kill your mother, what happens?
19:49 rdococ Krock: You go to jail?
19:49 ElectronLibre You fall into a new time-line.
19:49 Krock rdococ, oh sorry. I forgot the part "You travel back im time"
19:49 rdococ Krock: Yes, I noticed that.
19:49 init if I travel back in time I wouldn't kill my mother
19:50 rdococ I'd just do it in the present.
19:50 init but look look at things like the number of jackpots
19:50 ElectronLibre Where you exists, but you're not born.
19:50 Birdy_ Well in general i Dont know how to start coversations and saying hi usually makes it less awkward for me but sorry if that bothers you
19:50 init it doesn't bother us
19:50 ElectronLibre You don't bother us, you learn.
19:50 Krock sorry for driving this channel offtopic but it really needs some activity ;)
19:50 rdococ Yes, by bothering you guys.
19:50 Birdy_ than why did you have to say something sassy to make me feel bad
19:50 rdococ Saying hi every time you join a channel is just social etiquette, anyway.
19:51 Birdy_ i dont really care
19:51 rdococ They didn't necessarily do that, but they were a little harsh.
19:51 ElectronLibre Krock: But what happend if you go in past, and kill you when you were building the machine. You disappear or you're found dead?
19:51 Krock for i, k in ipairs(IRC_users) do print("Hi "..k") end
19:51 Birdy_ i feel so judged
19:51 ElectronLibre About 164 prints, wonderful.
19:51 Krock ElectronLibre, it gets more and more complicated
19:52 Krock the result is: traveling in time is not allowed to be possible, otherwise it causes endless loops :/
19:52 Birdy_ why do you say something that always puts me down?
19:52 ElectronLibre Yes, and if before your kitten is sent in a future where kittens have become intelligent and lead the world, and are building a machine to go to the past and kill the creator of the first machine but to test it send this kitten from the beginning which is killed.
19:53 Krock oh yay! dead kittens
19:53 Birdy_ what is going on?
19:54 rdococ What I would say is that whenever you go back in time and do something, it is undone by someone else, causing you to travel back in time again and the exact same thing happens, so there will be no ambiguity in what happened.
19:54 ElectronLibre Birdy_, maybe it's just because I don't mind being insulted so I can't realize how people can be emotional to what I say even if it's not insulting.
19:54 Birdy_ interesting
19:55 Xenoth ElectronLibre: That "Kill you when you were building the time machine" creates a paradox, yep.
19:55 rdococ e.g. If you go back in time and kill your mother, then someone will somehow revive her, and you will have an urge to go back in time again.
19:56 rdococ If you go back in time and kill yourself as you were building the time machine, you will end up building it, and doing the same thing again.
19:56 Birdy_ i dont know what to say
19:57 ElectronLibre Birdy_, the first time I heard them speaking of things like those I just shut up and read.
19:57 ElectronLibre Oh, netsplit.
19:57 Krock You travel into future, see a disease and go back and tell the people about it. Does the disease happen?
19:57 * ElectronLibre imagines est31 imagining he is alone in the channel and getting 163 part messages.
19:57 Birdy_ ok well idk how to just let things be silent
19:58 ElectronLibre Krock: It may happen that by telling them you make them discover it.
19:58 * Xenoth teaches Birdy_ "null"
19:58 Birdy_ ?
19:58 Xenoth It's a programming thing, meaning "absolutely nothing"
19:58 ElectronLibre "Keep calm, and put down your keyboard".
19:58 Krock ElectronLibre, but that already happened in the future
19:58 Birdy_ i just can't
19:58 Xenoth ElectronLibre: You see the disease, and tell people about it in your past time, they discover it, therefore creating it. You're seeing the results of your own effects on the timeline.
19:59 ElectronLibre So Krock, if there is no new timeline created, the disease will happen, if there is one and you started travelling in it, it may happen or not.
19:59 Krock ^
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19:59 Xenoth The other idea is that they think you're nuts, and what you say is completely ineffectual. Maybe the psychos in the world are travelers from the future.
19:59 ElectronLibre Xenoth, exactly what I thought.
19:59 Xenoth (AKA, you're in a sort of "view-only" mode when you time-travel)
19:59 Krock Xenoth, interesting idea
20:00 Xenoth :)
20:00 Birdy_ so
20:00 ElectronLibre If you ever travel in time, don't do anything, just look. Be an observer only.
20:00 Krock sensors would detect you. if they don't, then there's no materia, this means you can't see
20:00 Krock so it's not a "view-only" thing
20:01 ElectronLibre It's a "be-only" mode.
20:01 Xenoth ElectronLibre: But traveling in time means that you did do something D:
20:01 Xenoth Haha.
20:01 ElectronLibre After being gone I meant.
20:01 ElectronLibre EXCEPT being gone, don't do anything.
20:01 Xenoth The funny thing is that we need teleportation before time-travel - when we pop out on the other timeline, we're creating matter there.
20:02 Xenoth Unless it destroys your matter in the past.
20:02 ElectronLibre At least you didn't interfere more in the time/timeline than being in it.
20:02 Birdy_ Do you like the matrix?
20:02 Xenoth At which point there's the "Time traveling creates your own timeline of hops" theory.
20:02 ElectronLibre Birdy_, we're in the Matrix.
20:02 Xenoth We are in the Matrix, yes.
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20:02 * ElectronLibre gives Birdy_ two pills.
20:02 * Xenoth looks at the steak...
20:03 Birdy_ ok
20:03 * Xenoth realizes something.
20:03 ElectronLibre The first theory I head was "every chose you make and everything you do creates a new timeline you've not been into".
20:03 Birdy_ what are you realizing?
20:03 * ElectronLibre wonders what did Xenoth realize.
20:04 Xenoth You could never create the paradox of affecting yourself because your matter is no longer there in the past. Unless time works as an infinite amount of frames, each containing it's own matter...
20:04 Birdy_ Is this your rl
20:05 ElectronLibre But what if by travelling in time you travel in a new timeline where your matter have been cloned and is still there because you've travelled from another branch of the "time-tree"?
20:05 Xenoth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass  states otherwise.
20:05 Xenoth You can't clone.
20:05 Birdy_ ill be back later again to say hi
20:06 Xenoth Bye Birdy_
20:06 ElectronLibre So time works with unlimited amount of frames.
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20:06 ElectronLibre Bye Birdy_.
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20:07 rubenwardy Just read the chat. Oh dear.
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20:07 Xenoth rubenwardy: :)
20:08 ElectronLibre rubenwardy, I never would have thought I could some day have a conversation like this one, in english, and on this channel.
20:09 * Xenoth wonders what will happen a few decades into the future when some history professor finds IRC logs...
20:09 Xenoth "IRC appeared to be a chat system of sorts, but not by today's definition. Mostly, anyone was free to say anything at anytime. This lead to some very interesting discussions."
20:09 JakubVanek The "view-only" mode is ghost :-)
20:10 Xenoth JakubVanek: So maybe time travel kills us instantly! \o/
20:10 ElectronLibre You mean after world's destruction bu Oerkkis?
20:10 ElectronLibre s/bu/by
20:19 Xenoth Heh
20:21 JakubVanek does Heisenberg's uncertainty principle apply to minetest source code?
20:22 JakubVanek it,s about that if you know where particle is, you don't know where it's going
20:23 JakubVanek s/it,s/it's/
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20:26 Birdy_ :)
20:27 Birdy_ ok
20:27 Birdy_ ?
20:27 Xenoth Hi Birdy_
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20:28 Birdy_ Hi
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20:29 Birdy_ So what are your interests other than this?
20:29 Birdy_ Hello?
20:30 ElectronLibre Programming is actually the only thing I do, so let's start with that.
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20:30 Birdy_ ok.
20:30 Birdy_ What do you programm
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20:31 Birdy_ :/
20:32 ElectronLibre I maintain french minetest servers, and I program one or two tiny things behind like a fileseeker program.
20:32 Birdy_ can you tell me what a fileseeker program is
20:33 ElectronLibre A program to search files in your computer.
20:33 Birdy_ oh . okay . what else do you do
20:35 ElectronLibre My life can be summaried by : "Getting up, go to school, eat, go back from school, doing homework, programming, sleeping", so I would say nothing else apart from studying.
20:35 Birdy_ wow what a nice life?
20:36 ElectronLibre The (s)hell it is.
20:37 Birdy_ ok? so idk if i should ask but whats your age. ?
20:37 ElectronLibre A completly pointless, worthless and useless life.
20:37 ElectronLibre I can PM it to you. (Private Message)
20:37 Birdy_ ok then
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20:39 ElectronLibre Look at potential pop-up windows, tabs or something to see PMs.
20:40 Birdy_ dont see nothing
20:40 ElectronLibre Hmm, look well, and maybe I can try to create this window.
20:41 Birdy_ ok
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20:42 ElectronLibre I sent you another PM search if there is a new tab/window.
20:42 ElectronLibre (in your browser)
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20:42 ElectronLibre Sorry connection's crash.
20:42 Birdy_ ?
20:43 Birdy_ so new topic
20:43 ElectronLibre I had to disconnect and reconnect I was sending datas without any answer from the server. I said that I've sent you another PM, search in your browser and current tab if there is something new.
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20:44 Birdy_ nothing
20:45 Birdy_ now what
20:45 ElectronLibre It starts by a 1. And finishes by a 3.
20:45 Birdy_ ?
20:45 ElectronLibre (What I was sending you)
20:46 ElectronLibre And there is a half of year with it. So, indeed, now what?
20:46 Birdy_ im XV
20:46 ElectronLibre Roman numbers, not a bad idea.
20:47 Birdy_ yeah found interest in it
20:47 ElectronLibre There is more complicated, like the Egyptian one.
20:48 Birdy_ how
20:48 ElectronLibre s/is/are
20:48 Birdy_ ?
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20:48 Birdy_ in rl what are you doing
20:49 ElectronLibre In the Egyptian numbers' system, you have to draw a little symbol for each column of an indian-number. 8 means 8 symbols for this column, 0 means no symbol.
20:49 ElectronLibre Nothing interesting enough to be written.
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20:50 JakubVanek what about octal numbers
20:50 ElectronLibre These are cool indeed, and binary ones are just wonderful.
20:50 Birdy_ ok
20:51 ElectronLibre I remember last time I tried to explain what is an octal number to someone in my class, their brain was melting xD
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20:51 Birdy__ ok
20:52 Birdy__ what type of music do you listen too
20:53 Birdy__ ?
20:53 ElectronLibre Russian folk and traditional music.
20:54 Birdy__ thats different
20:54 ElectronLibre And sometimes "The elements' song".
20:55 Birdy__ i listen to indie rock mostly and some pop
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20:57 JakubVanek I'll try linux kernel source code, but i think it will hurt... i don't like C and it will definitely not sound like pop
20:57 * Birdy__ the silnce bothers me
20:57 Birdy__ oh
20:57 ElectronLibre Even compiling it is a pain, I tried once, and after 1 hour filling the questions before compiling, I gave up.
20:58 Birdy__ have no idea what that means
21:00 Birdy__ so you like the silence i see
21:00 ElectronLibre Yep.
21:00 Birdy__ :/
21:01 Birdy__ i guess i require too much attention
21:01 JakubVanek compilation is translation from source code to machine code. compiler is program that does it for you.
21:01 Birdy__ good to know
21:01 init compilation is translation between programming languages
21:01 ElectronLibre I think I know where you could be happy to speak with other kids/teens, related to minetest, but without any programmer. I could send you a link to another irc network where are hosted most of the minetest-irc channels.
21:02 * ElectronLibre see init and starts typing "sudo init 0"
21:02 * init kills ElectronLibre
21:02 Birdy__ tbh i dont relate to minetest
21:02 * ElectronLibre have been downgraded to bootlevel 0 *cryes*
21:02 init cries*? has been*?
21:03 ElectronLibre Yes, my english is horribly bad.
21:03 ElectronLibre And I was already thinking about what I'm going to type and send to Birdy__.
21:03 Birdy__ so. i dont mind
21:04 Birdy__ the on,y reason i am on this to get to know people not minetest
21:04 ElectronLibre Anyway, Birdy__ you should be happy there : webchat.inchra.net (channel : #minetest) (sorry but Birdy__ can't read PMs I have to write it here)
21:04 ElectronLibre ^ This is more about people.
21:05 ElectronLibre And you can still play with them.
21:05 Birdy__ i can tell . i tend to spill my personal life to peoplevon minetest annoying them
21:06 ElectronLibre (I deducted that a while ago to be honest)
21:06 init JakubVanek: for what it is worth, 'compiling' directly to machine code for any high-level language is pretty much a thing that nobody wants to do
21:07 Birdy__ i know . im surprised that i would find people here that actually talk
21:08 JakubVanek well, i can't compile bash
21:08 Birdy__ oh .
21:08 init what's the problem?
21:08 JakubVanek *bash scripts
21:09 Birdy__ what problem
21:09 init JakubVanek: you could compile them
21:09 Birdy__ ?
21:10 Birdy__ i need to meet someone thats just as interested in people as i am .
21:10 JakubVanek oh, i didn't know that
21:10 init that's actually a cool idea
21:11 Birdy__ what idea
21:11 ElectronLibre Birdy__, use the link I gave you, you will meet people, I can ensure you.
21:11 Birdy__ what link . Who will i meet?
21:12 JakubVanek >>(ElectronLibre) Anyway, Birdy__ you should be happy there : webchat.inchra.net (channel : #minetest) (sorry but Birdy__ can't read PMs I have to write it here)
21:12 ElectronLibre Thanks.
21:12 Birdy__ ?
21:12 ElectronLibre People, kids, teens, players from minetest, etc..
21:13 ElectronLibre http://webchat.inchra.net <= THIS link.
21:13 Birdy__ thats a little risky
21:14 ElectronLibre I know them, and there will be VanessaE and some admins to keep the channel running well.
21:15 Birdy__ someone had told me to there before only i forgot
21:18 Xenoth I'm an admin there.
21:18 Birdy__ ok
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21:23 Birdy__ so
21:24 Birdy__ the coversation went dull
21:24 ElectronLibre So I can see you're in the channel, good.
21:25 Birdy__ yeah only its not interesting
21:26 Birdy__ im trying to fold clothes only i get distracted
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21:27 Birdy__ ?
21:27 ElectronLibre No just a ghost of yours that has been disconnected.
21:28 Birdy__ saw that .
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21:29 Birdy__ think ima adopt some pet when i go off to college
21:31 Birdy__ ?
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21:32 Birdy__ ugh im dying
21:32 ElectronLibre I don't want to be rude or anything, but first we don't need the channel to be always active, and you've been out of topic for the whole time you've been there.. :/
21:33 Birdy__ feel judged
21:33 Nytram welcome to irc. ;)
21:34 Birdy__ hi
21:34 Calinou http://cloudkickermusic.com/
21:34 Calinou Birdy__, ^ if you like indie music
21:34 Calinou all free, various formats including FLAC
21:34 Birdy__ cool thx
21:35 ElectronLibre Don't be judged, you're not a bad person, you're just no in the best place to speak about usual teen things, life and all these stuff.
21:35 * init hugs ElectronLibre
21:35 ElectronLibre s/teen/teen's
21:35 * ElectronLibre hugs init back
21:35 Birdy__ :/
21:37 Birdy__ i dont know what ima do with my life
21:37 Birdy__ ?
21:37 JakubVanek no upstart user :/ but sysvinit is good for systems like raspbian
21:38 Nytram Live it and don't live in the past or the past becomes your present.
21:38 Birdy__ i have nothing
21:38 ElectronLibre Birdy__, on my side, I just know that if my life keep going like it is know, I will probably hang myself or die from loneliness before beeing 16. Don't worry and keep being.
21:39 Birdy__ i overthink everything though
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21:40 Nytram I walked past a guy sat on the pavement outside WH Smiths. I went inside and bought myself the latest Linux Format and walked past the guy again. I didn't give him any money or even but him a burger, because it's his choice to be there.
21:40 Birdy__ o
21:41 Nytram If you always do what you always did, you will always get what you always got.
21:41 Birdy__ am i too much
21:41 ElectronLibre Nothing new done, nothing new got.
21:42 Birdy__ :(
21:42 ElectronLibre Which actually describes my life perfectly.
21:42 JakubVanek android multitasling on phone with 256mb ram and 1.5GHz processor is painful...
21:42 Nytram If you need to ask other people what you should do you then perhaps you need to turn your view inward.
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21:43 Birdy__ complicted describes my life
21:43 Nytram hahah JakubVanek interjects with some techy sense. I feel your pain, I bricked a few test phones.
21:45 Birdy__ so
21:45 Birdy__ now what
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21:46 ElectronLibre Now let's stop writing and look at these beautiful part/join messages.
21:46 * Calinou hides them
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21:47 Birdy__ sure
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23:10 tim_flatus signs_lib - I'm using the version from BFD, which may be a mistake :-/ The text disappeared. Then if I interact with the sign I get the text proud of the sign by nearly a node. Is this a known issue?
23:11 tim_flatus I shall try the version from Dreambuilder. I don't want the whole of homedecor. Is there anything else I should know at this stage?
23:13 VanessaE only that I've nevber tried using homedecor's signs_lib in BFD.
23:13 VanessaE but it works fine in vanilla mt_game
23:13 tim_flatus I notice yours is configured to overwrite default:sign_wall, which is the behaviour I want anyway. :-)
23:13 DFeniks can liquids flow in something else than air naturally? im thinking if method how its done in moontest is only way (by removing nodes around source)
23:14 VanessaE DFeniks:  no, only air
23:14 VanessaE (or other airlike nodes maybe?)
23:15 tim_flatus This isn't default MT. I have rearranged default, but it needs to be compatible. If no known issues then it's a bug I've introduced somehow.
23:15 tim_flatus Thanks
23:15 DFeniks ^actually group:liquid , not just source
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23:35 tim_flatus That's very odd
23:35 tim_flatus All the locked signs have reoriented themselves :/
23:36 tim_flatus I guess I'm just going to have to rewrite them all. Unless signs_lib supports cut|copy|paste?
23:36 * tim_flatus is a hopeful kind of person.
23:38 * tim_flatus goes to look for some documentation (see above)
23:40 VanessaE the signs_lib signs aren't "wallmounted" is why they re-oriented themselves
23:40 VanessaE at the time the mod was written, this wasn't possible.
23:41 tim_flatus I have tried using a screwdriver on them. They go anywhere but flat against the wall. This sort of explains why the text was misplaced.
23:41 VanessaE I suppose I could change that now but it'll break everything
23:41 tim_flatus No, I can roll with it.
23:41 tim_flatus Just asking in case you knew any useful tricks.
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23:44 VanessaE nope :)
23:45 VanessaE lots of clicks with the screwdriver to re-orient them :P
23:45 VanessaE unless you want me to fix it
23:45 VanessaE (the fix will use wallmounted mesh nodes similar to what default signs now use)

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