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03:34 hoodedice hello
03:34 acerspyro yo
03:35 hoodedice so yeah, new release tomorrow
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03:35 acerspyro Will check it out when I'm home
03:35 hoodedice aight
03:35 acerspyro Well, how big would it be?
03:36 acerspyro in size
03:36 hoodedice 6 MB base game
03:36 acerspyro not bad
03:36 hoodedice there's nothing in it
03:36 acerspyro Aw
03:36 acerspyro That's why I didn't like it
03:36 hoodedice but if you get too involved, worlds can grow to over 5 GB in size
03:36 acerspyro I only got the base game :P
03:36 hoodedice you need to expand it with mods
03:36 hoodedice try hmm
03:37 hoodedice !g VanessaE dreambuilder
03:37 MinetestBot hoodedice: https://github.com/VanessaE/dreambuilder_game
03:37 acerspyro should have a mods installing interface built into it
03:37 VanessaE there is a mod-installer built in
03:37 hoodedice yes, try adding this subgame ^ to your /game/ directory
03:37 VanessaE but you don't actually need it
03:37 hoodedice gives you a ton of pritti blocks
03:37 VanessaE you can just copy your mods to <minetest dir>/mods and name their folders properly, and enable them in your menu.
03:37 VanessaE there's not much to it
03:37 acerspyro how big is it?
03:38 VanessaE dreambuilder is about 56 MB (uncompressed) at present
03:38 acerspyro oh
03:38 acerspyro too big for atm
03:38 VanessaE with git history, rather larger :)
03:38 VanessaE wat?
03:38 acerspyro VanessaE, I can't download over 10 mb, 10 GB/month
03:38 hoodedice ow
03:38 acerspyro Cap blows VERY quickly, and it's expensive.
03:39 Sokomine the dreambuilder game is really recommendable. it does have a lot of mods and is really built to make builders happy :-)
03:39 hoodedice I can guess...
03:39 hoodedice oh hai there Sokomine, I was beginning to miss you
03:39 acerspyro At home, I have 60 gb/month, 50/10 connection
03:39 VanessaE well 56 MB ain't that much, even against a 10 GB cap
03:39 hoodedice how you been?
03:39 acerspyro I can go nuts, download 2 gb files.
03:39 acerspyro VanessaE, with everything else, it is
03:39 Sokomine acerspyro: it's mb, not gb :-)
03:39 VanessaE btw with git history it's 111 MB.
03:39 acerspyro I've used 75 mb by using IRC 2/3rd of my day
03:40 VanessaE acerspyro: 56 Megs, that's pretty small.
03:40 acerspyro Sokomine, I mean, I can download 2 gb files if I wanted to
03:40 acerspyro VanessaE, it is, not for here
03:40 VanessaE you need better internet :)
03:40 Sokomine hi hoodedice. i'm a bit busy with mg_villages. the single houses started to spawn on top of the villages, which is a very annoying bug
03:40 VanessaE anyway good luck then
03:40 acerspyro VanessaE, I have better internet at home
03:40 acerspyro I'm at my grandparents for xmas
03:40 hoodedice wish I had as much luck with minetest lua as I had with unity's C#
03:40 hoodedice Unity3D's C# came quite naturally to me
03:41 acerspyro They live somewhere lost, with only shitty satellite internet service.
03:41 Sokomine ok, on a mobile phone connection, 35 mb might ruin you under certain circumstances
03:41 hoodedice acerspyro: The dreambuilder sub_game is 23 MB
03:41 hoodedice on download
03:41 Sokomine acerspyro: that's pretty much for irc. how many channels did you join?
03:42 acerspyro Sokomine, This is kind of like a mobile phone connection, since it's 3G
03:42 VanessaE well yeah compressed it is somewhat smaller
03:42 acerspyro Sokomine, uhh, 9?
03:42 hoodedice not to forget, they might also be visiting links
03:42 Sokomine hoodedice: lua's not that bad. it's certainly annoying in some aspects, but there have been some nice debugging features beeing added recently. it now tells you when you accidently use a new global variable due to mistyping
03:42 acerspyro yeah
03:43 acerspyro I also navigate around
03:43 acerspyro But I don't do youtube or anything that would use a lot
03:43 Sokomine ah, ok, satellite internet may be very expensive
03:43 acerspyro Sokomine, very.
03:43 VanessaE actually, the tarball for dreambuilder is only about 20 MB
03:43 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/h​obbies/minetest/Dreambuilder_Game.tar.bz2
03:43 VanessaE (but that one lacks git history)
03:43 hoodedice Soko, I use it with a nice IDE, ZeroBrane Studio, but I don't find time to learn it when I can mess around with C# =D
03:43 acerspyro ty
03:44 Sokomine acerspyro: turn image loading in your browser off. that might help a bit already. and of course use the usual privacy protection tools like requestpolicy etc in your browser
03:45 Sokomine today, web pages tend to be quite big. i'm really astonished that you managed to get a significant amount of traffic on irc. even with 9 high-traffic channels :-)
03:45 acerspyro I use adblock, removes a lot of the bandwidth already
03:47 Sokomine that may help a bit already, yes, but it's not really sufficient. at least not for me. but then, for me, webpages that require javascript tend to be white, empty pages :-)
03:47 hoodedice I am sleepy, see ya'll tomorrow
03:48 acerspyro k
03:48 hoodedice Sokomine, here's to seeing you around *wink*
03:48 Sokomine on mobile connections, not loading images can help a lot. that's even valid for the minetest forum. just visit the screenshots thread...lots of big screenshots :-)
03:48 acerspyro wet dreams
03:48 acerspyro :)
03:48 Sokomine sleep well, hoodedice
03:48 hoodedice (inb4 hoodedice is a creep)
03:48 acerspyro hoodedice, I've seen worse
03:48 acerspyro *cough*myself*cough*
03:48 hoodedice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTENT9​gQxCE&amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;t=2m31s
03:51 Sokomine creepy village with badly spawned house: https://mediacru.sh/bnd_BvalSVSe.png  (don't load if you're on a mobile connection)
03:52 acerspyro Ok so where do I fuck the dreambuilder_game again?
03:53 hoodedice you fuck it in minetest/game/
03:53 VanessaE well don't fuck it here.
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03:53 acerspyro lol
03:53 VanessaE I didn't design the game to be fucked.
03:53 VanessaE I designed it to be played. :)
03:53 acerspyro VanessaE, Who knows!
03:53 Sokomine wonder what might come out of that? perhaps acerspyro is software as well...a mod...
03:53 acerspyro I don't have a game folder
03:53 hoodedice ...
03:53 VanessaE make one.
03:53 hoodedice this turned dark quickly
03:54 acerspyro in .minetest?
03:54 VanessaE yep.   <minetestdir>/games/dreambuilder_game
03:54 Sokomine hoodedice: that bug's still annoying me :-)
03:54 VanessaE so just mkdir <minetestdir>/games  and put dreambuilder et al. there.
03:55 hoodedice you can put a checking loop...
03:57 Sokomine thought i had such a one. wonder why it's not working. must be some stupid error
03:57 acerspyro You will be able to call errors stupid the day they will have a mind of their own.
03:58 acerspyro I FOUND A ROCK!
03:58 acerspyro :D :D :D
03:58 acerspyro BSTDAYOFMYLIFE420
03:58 Sokomine i'm afraid the error will be even more stupid than that :)
03:59 acerspyro omg mobs are buggy
03:59 VanessaE can't be helped, minetest is glitchy when it comes to mobs
04:02 acerspyro Twigs?
04:02 VanessaE yep
04:02 acerspyro Such level of details
04:02 VanessaE there's lots of stuff on the map after all the mapgen stuff is run
04:02 VanessaE (I configured it to run in layers to avoid lagging too much)
04:02 acerspyro argh why can't you change graphics settings without leaving the game
04:04 VanessaE heh
04:05 acerspyro it's so slow to load
04:05 VanessaE turn off preload-item-visuals in your config
04:06 acerspyro this needs better images.
04:06 VanessaE I know
04:06 acerspyro I can help
04:07 VanessaE pull requests are welcome, but textures should be directed at their individual mods
04:07 acerspyro ok
04:07 acerspyro I guess this is your mod?
04:07 VanessaE plantlife stuff is more or less mine yeah
04:08 VanessaE (several components therein have been imported from elsewhere)
04:09 VanessaE be sure you're using a current development build of Minetest btw
04:09 VanessaE otherwise you'll see stuff looking weird, like apples
04:10 acerspyro I am
04:10 VanessaE ok
04:11 acerspyro 0.4.10?
04:11 VanessaE 0.4.10 is old
04:11 acerspyro hm
04:11 VanessaE 0.4.11 is about to be released, like today or tomorrow
04:11 VanessaE use a development build until then
04:12 acerspyro what VCS do you use
04:12 VanessaE git
04:12 VanessaE you can clone it from here:  https://github.com/minetest/minetest
04:12 acerspyro once again
04:12 acerspyro how big
04:12 VanessaE right.
04:12 VanessaE um
04:12 acerspyro :P
04:12 VanessaE lemme check
04:13 VanessaE the zip of the sources is 9.5 MB at present
04:13 VanessaE I don't think that includes any git history though
04:13 VanessaE with git history, it's 537 MB
04:14 acerspyro lol
04:14 Sokomine at least that ought to be compressible
04:14 acerspyro I'd rather get the zip
04:14 VanessaE (well that's the uncompressed size on my disk)
04:14 acerspyro I got it uncompressed
04:14 Sokomine might be due to your improvements of the graphic files
04:16 acerspyro lol I got install deps
04:17 VanessaE yep
04:17 acerspyro YO FOOL'D ME
04:17 acerspyro jk
04:17 VanessaE :P
04:19 acerspyro building
04:23 acerspyro VanessaE, how many times have people asked how to build the game?
04:23 acerspyro I wonder how many of them can't read readme's.
04:24 VanessaE a number of times I guess
04:24 VanessaE enough so that Calinou has this "one-liner" on one of his forum topics to assist in that
04:27 acerspyro lol
04:27 acerspyro Calinou can be annoying at times.
04:27 acerspyro idk about here, but on other channels
04:27 acerspyro Anyways, gn
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07:00 stormchaser3000 does anyone know what compiler compiles programs using .xml files?
07:01 VanessaE not familiar with such a thing; xml is just a markup language.
07:01 VanessaE Eclipse seems to use them though
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07:03 VanessaE bbl
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08:58 Krock Merry Christmas!
08:58 ElectronLibre Merry christmas to you too, Krock.
08:58 Krock Thanks :D
08:59 * Krock looks at the topic description: >Minetest 0.4.11 releases on the 24th.
08:59 ElectronLibre Yes, indeed :°...
08:59 ElectronLibre (But don't worry it's compiling apparently)
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09:26 * Krock builds a 0.4.11 win32 binary
09:26 stormchaser3000 krock: how in the universe do you build windows builds
09:26 stormchaser3000 i have attempted to
09:26 stormchaser3000 but failed a lot
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09:27 Krock stormchaser3000, I only can build win32.. it took me two weeks to get it correctly
09:27 Krock when you've got all libraries, then you're on the right way
09:27 stormchaser3000 lol taking me a few years and i still can't figure it out but i think i can compile some other programs
09:28 stormchaser3000 such as manic digger
09:28 Krock that's c#
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09:35 Krock Fastest build from scratch! 9:35.76 minutes
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11:02 casimir Since the right click craft feature was changed I don't know how I am supposed to use it now. It does work with double click, but then I also place two items...
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11:09 Krock casimir, one click in one field, an other click into the next. I hate this change too
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11:18 * ElectronLibre compiled MT in 3 minutes with his new computer, great!
11:19 * mitrom played minetest in 2 minutes
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11:22 Zeno` Any news on when MT will be released?
11:22 ElectronLibre Nothing new.
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11:55 mitrom who here has the slowest internet?
11:55 * mitrom has 2mbits
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11:58 Jordach ElectronLibre, compiled in 1 minute under a 2 CPU core VM
11:58 mitrom well sir
11:58 mitrom i compiled in 5 minutes on a 24 core amazon instance
11:59 mitrom also
11:59 mitrom merry christmas!
11:59 ElectronLibre You broke my dreams Jordach. At least it's good.
11:59 Krock merry xmas 4 u 2
11:59 ElectronLibre Merry christmas too mitrom.
11:59 mitrom Merry merry
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12:00 mitrom let's make a christmas server
12:00 Krock *knock* *knock* - Who's there? - Merry - Merry who? - Merry Christmas!
12:00 mitrom krock krock
12:00 Krock wat wat
12:01 mitrom krock
12:01 mitrom krock who?
12:01 Krock krock christmas doesn't work
12:02 mitrom Krock Krock - Who's there? - Krock - Krock who? - Krock.
12:02 Krock omg wow.
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12:03 Viper168 krockmas?
12:03 gregorycu Well well well
12:03 gregorycu Merry Christmas
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12:06 gregorycu Someone should update the topic
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12:15 EvergreenTree Merry christmas everyone!  (well, at least in my time zone)
12:15 gregorycu Thanks bruf
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12:16 * EvergreenTree givees a blender kitten to sfan5
12:17 Jordach EvergreenTree, :3
12:18 * Jordach made £20
12:18 EvergreenTree Recently I've been giving haskell a shot, as I think it would be good to learn functional programming
12:18 Jordach exio4, ^
12:19 * Jordach wouldn't mind SLI GTX Titan Zs
12:19 exio4 Jordach, what!
12:19 EvergreenTree I wouldn't mind them either,but that seems a bit overkill
12:20 Jordach exio4, think of all that rendering power
12:20 EvergreenTree Jordach: You could easily get more than enough rendering power with a single gpu
12:20 exio4 Jordach, I'd go with all that money to hdds, ram, cpu...
12:20 Jordach exio4, my end all build is Quad Intel Xeons
12:21 exio4 lol intel xeons
12:21 EvergreenTree You know those aren't really made for desktops right?  :P
12:21 exio4 so what
12:21 Jordach EvergreenTree, my infinite disposable income allows for this shit
12:21 EvergreenTree Well, if you want to do it, that's fine
12:22 exio4 the difference between "intel desktops cpus" and "intel server cpus" is the number of locked and unlocked features
12:22 exio4 you never get all of them
12:22 Jordach EvergreenTree, i might actually get a framerate in Assassins Creed Unity
12:22 exio4 only a subset, like VTx-d, overclocking, ECC ram, ...
12:23 EvergreenTree Has anyone else here had any experience with functional programming languages?  I'm curious
12:23 exio4 \o EvergreenTree
12:24 EvergreenTree Would haskell be a good starting language for that, or would another language be prefferable?
12:24 Krock lua?
12:24 EvergreenTree Krock: That's not what I'm thinking
12:24 exio4 what are your previous skills in the programming world?
12:25 EvergreenTree Python, a bit of c/c++ and various other OOP languages
12:25 EvergreenTree like lua
12:25 exio4 yeah, I think it is good :P
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12:26 EvergreenTree Thanks.  I just thought it would be intereesting to try something new
12:27 exio4 Haskell is kind of new in the sense of development, the core language is really conservative, but there are lots of "standard" new extensions that are really powerful and mind blowing
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12:29 * Jordach wonders what Valve has as the free game forever game on Steam
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14:27 hoodedice Hello everyminer!
14:27 hoodedice http://i.imgur.com/CnKS5EM.png
14:29 hoodedice uh, sorry, wrong pic; http://imgur.com/gallery/Q8nDABi
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14:37 Krock xD
14:40 ElectronLibre (hoodedice, everyone can, at least, be happy to celebrate christmas with their families (if they have..), no matter what they believe in.)
14:40 hoodedice but it is haraaaaaaaaaam
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14:42 SylvieLorxu Happy whatever you celebrate :D
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14:43 hoodedice ... I celebrate new minetest realease days
14:43 hoodedice but it seems we missed one
14:44 ElectronLibre The developpers themselves don't know if they are gonna release it today.. ._.
14:45 exio4 sounds like previous year
14:46 Jordach /msg #minetest-dev release 0.4.11!!!!111!!
14:48 Krock Jordach, see latest git commit
14:48 Jordach link pls
14:48 Krock !git
14:48 MinetestBot someone thinks you need to brush up on or learn Git, please go to: http://git-scm.com/book/
14:49 Krock no no, MinetestBot!
14:49 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/3f83ca
14:49 ElectronLibre Jordach: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/3f83ca29d3cbe9d283c11ab836cc24b2cb99539d
14:49 Krock ninja'd
14:50 Jordach ChanServ pls
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14:51 Zeno` hang on... 0.4.11 has been released?
14:51 Jordach yesh
14:52 Zeno` where? :(
14:52 Jordach [14:49:15] <Krock> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/3f83ca
14:53 Zeno` there are no builds for that though
14:53 ElectronLibre Yet Jordach, there is nothing new on http://minetest.net/downloads, neither on http://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases
14:53 ElectronLibre (http://minetest.net/download sorry)
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14:54 Jordach sfan5, Krock do yer thing
14:54 Zeno` there is no 0.4.11 branch
14:54 SylvieLorxu Hmm, updates
14:54 SylvieLorxu "git pull" :D
14:54 Jordach Zeno`, stable-0.4
14:54 ElectronLibre (I suppose he means "Create branch, tags, and compile."
14:55 exio4 ghost release
14:55 * ElectronLibre adds an )
14:56 Zeno` hmmm made that commit in preparation for the release and then nothing happened
14:56 Zeno` AFAIK
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15:15 hoodedice I'm considering that 0.4.11 is NOT out
15:15 hoodedice yet
15:16 hoodedice so not updating twatter
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15:18 hoodedice ohai proller
15:18 mitrom hi troller
15:18 mitrom proller even
15:18 proller hi
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16:00 Jordach VanessaE, pls
16:01 hoodedice wat
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16:02 VanessaE hi
16:02 VanessaE brb
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16:36 * Jordach opens his 5th beer
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16:39 shadowzone Jordach: must be Christmas
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16:45 Jordach to pass out or not
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17:01 acerspyro Dam shit motherfucker
17:01 acerspyro Compiled minetest, now it will only use /usr/local/ as its home dir.
17:02 acerspyro Is it a compile-time option or something? I want it to run from ~/.minetest
17:03 acerspyro Btw, I ultimately fail to see the point with texture filtering with low res texture packs.
17:03 ElectronLibre Have you tried with -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1?
17:03 Jordach acerspyro, go check out HDX
17:04 acerspyro ElectronLibre, Yup
17:04 acerspyro That's what I used cmake with
17:04 acerspyro Jordach, HDX?
17:04 Jordach !g minetest HDXC
17:04 MinetestBot Jordach: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=19702
17:04 Jordach even better
17:04 * Jordach pets MinetestBot
17:04 acerspyro How many of you are french speakers?
17:05 Megaf Merry Christmas folks!
17:05 acerspyro You too
17:05 acerspyro :D
17:06 Megaf :D
17:06 ElectronLibre (You can go to #minetest-fr to speak french)
17:06 acerspyro Naw, no problem
17:06 acerspyro Was just asking, since I saw your name and I knew Calinou was french
17:06 Megaf This year is our first Christmas living together in our own (rented) apartment.
17:06 acerspyro I'm quebecois
17:07 * ElectronLibre wonders what is Calinou's idle time.
17:07 exio4 /whois <nick> <nick>
17:07 * ElectronLibre doesn't even see Calinou connected.
17:07 exio4 oh
17:07 acerspyro 12:07:11: ERROR[main]: Provided world path doesn't exist: /usr/local/bin/../worlds/world
17:07 acerspyro 12:07:11: ERROR[main]: Error writing configuration file: "/usr/local/bin/../minetest.conf"
17:07 acerspyro acerspyro@FORTH212:~/.minetest$
17:07 acerspyro Calinou never heard of /quit, he always resets the connection.
17:07 ElectronLibre ^ exio4, whois is the first command I've learnt to use, after /me. And it's the one I use the most.
17:08 ElectronLibre I suppose he just closes the window / shutdowns his computer.
17:08 acerspyro lol
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17:08 acerspyro In #redeclipse, he usually gives a shitty reply to something we tell him, then he rageuits.
17:08 exio4 sounds like a normal calinou
17:09 acerspyro lol
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17:15 shadowzone Calinou is a girl?
17:15 Jordach yes.
17:15 shadowzone Look at that, you learn something new everyday.
17:17 * ElectronLibre discovered a new way to avoid loggingbot_ to register what he says.
17:17 shadowzone So, what's with the [off] thing?
17:17 Jordach prepending messages with that turns loggingbot_ off for that message
17:18 shadowzone cool
17:19 exio4 Jordach, I don't trust you
17:20 * shadowzone meows at Jordach
17:20 ElectronLibre See : http://irc.minetest.ru/min​etest/2014-12-25#i_4079117
17:20 shadowzone cool
17:21 Jordach exio4, hacking electronics is old hat, hacking people is new hat
17:25 acerspyro Calinou's a girl?
17:25 acerspyro Huh.
17:26 exio4 if Jordach removed the s I would say Jordach right, otherwise I am not sure ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
17:27 Jordach exio4, eh?
17:27 Jordach what "s"
17:27 exio4 she -> he
17:27 exio4 s/right/is right/
17:28 hoodedice wat
17:28 hoodedice Calinou is a girl!
17:28 hoodedice ?!
17:28 acerspyro General panic.
17:28 acerspyro :D
17:28 hoodedice ohai acerspyro
17:28 acerspyro hoodedice, hi
17:29 acerspyro I still didn't manage to get minetest to use ~/.minetest instead of /usr/local/
17:29 * ElectronLibre imagines Calinou would turn very angry if he saw that.
17:29 acerspyro she*
17:30 hoodedice Calinou is a girl?!
17:30 hoodedice !g calinou
17:30 MinetestBot hoodedice: https://github.com/Calinou
17:30 ElectronLibre (For voxels' sake stop repeating that :x...)
17:30 Jordach Calinou has once posted her DA page by accident
17:30 acerspyro I never voice chatted with cal
17:30 Jordach ElectronLibre, deviantart
17:31 hoodedice " Neither of these organisms approved your “license”" -- Calinou
17:31 hoodedice > organisms
17:31 * ElectronLibre creates the customized command : off => [off] &2
17:31 hoodedice typo of the year, Calinou
17:31 acerspyro Comes from Calinours, it's carebear in french.
17:32 Jordach acerspyro, including "Hug"
17:32 hoodedice ew care bear
17:32 acerspyro Yeah
17:32 acerspyro Caliner
17:33 hoodedice what is [off]?
17:33 acerspyro it's mosquito spraty
17:33 acerspyro spray*
17:33 ElectronLibre off = not registered by loggingbot_.
17:33 hoodedice ooooooH
17:33 Jordach ElectronLibre, hyrbid data mining and personality analysis
17:33 ElectronLibre see => http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/today
17:33 hoodedice !irc
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17:34 ElectronLibre It disables loggingbot_ from registering the message in the logs.
17:35 acerspyro hoodedice, The IRC bot records the chat, with the off tag, it doesn't record
17:35 acerspyro Nothing magical
17:35 hoodedice why did I know of this before?
17:35 acerspyro I'd like it to be something like
17:35 hoodedice *didn't
17:35 acerspyro \\ Hi, hidden chat
17:35 acerspyro Quicker than typing [off]
17:35 hoodedice even better
17:35 hoodedice a seperate channel
17:35 ElectronLibre That's why I've created a customized command.
17:35 acerspyro no
17:36 ElectronLibre /off <message> => msg <current_channel> [off] <message>
17:38 * ElectronLibre loves the way when he reads a off message he can hear whispers in his minds.
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17:39 ElectronLibre It's "ne" hoodedice.
17:41 exio4 I'll kill acerspyro, hoodedice and ElectronLibre
17:41 ElectronLibre What did I do? ._.
17:41 acerspyro exio4, ty, I guess that solves the problem
17:41 exio4 just stop using [off]
17:42 hoodedice for using [off], I guess?
17:42 acerspyro ok
17:42 hoodedice ah yes
17:42 acerspyro [on] Hi
17:42 ElectronLibre Ok, we all stop.
17:42 acerspyro right
17:42 acerspyro So.................
17:42 acerspyro What about my issue where it will only run from /usr/local?
17:44 hoodedice something something windows 8.1 is better something
17:44 acerspyro something something yourself
17:44 hoodedice love yourself?
17:44 hoodedice k
17:45 acerspyro lol
17:45 hoodedice brb
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17:46 harrison the sword that executeth the law is in it, and not above it -- james harrington
17:49 harrison 01,09memehopper
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17:49 acerspyro Konversation?
17:50 acerspyro 11,07Konversation Rocks!
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17:51 hoodedice ...je ne parle pas francais...
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18:04 benoliver999 Merry Christmas Minetesters! http://b999.me/b
18:04 LittleJoe same to you XD
18:09 Krock benoliver999, your cerftivicate isn't valid
18:09 Krock *certificate
18:10 benoliver999 Ugh yeah I'm sorry, it's just a little site. I use a Gandi cert but it gets rejected on a few clients
18:10 benoliver999 It's just a crappy pixel art santa anyway
18:11 Krock k
18:11 * Jordach eats more alcoholic chocolate
18:12 * Krock doesn't want to see a drunk Jordach
18:12 Jordach you're not ma family
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18:17 acerspyro <redroid> acerspyro: Jordach is the Sam II in our screwed up family
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18:20 Jordach Sokomine_, nice disconnect
18:20 mitrom yup
18:22 * Jordach programs in the spawning for the kittens
18:22 sfan5 !op
18:23 Jordach hai der sfan5
18:23 Topic for #minetest is now Latest stable version is 0.4.10, 0.4.11 will be released soon | Responses may take a while so please wait. | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | Logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | Use https://mediacru.sh for images and http://pastie.org for text.
18:23 sfan5 !deop
18:23 sfan5 hi
18:24 hoodedice hai sfan
18:24 hoodedice did you report that bug?
18:24 sfan5 hoodedice: i did not quite understand the bug
18:25 hoodedice were the wielditem textures not messed up when shaders are on?
18:25 sfan5 yes
18:25 sfan5 thats already in the bugtracker
18:25 hoodedice oh okay thanks
18:26 hoodedice also
18:26 hoodedice *psst*
18:26 hoodedice Calinou is a girl
18:27 ElectronLibre And?
18:27 acerspyro He's got a problem with women.
18:27 acerspyro >:[
18:27 sfan5 guys pls
18:29 Jordach acerspyro, hoodedice is from India :P
18:29 hoodedice I lived in the UAE
18:29 acerspyro and?
18:30 * ElectronLibre meows at sfan5
18:30 * sfan5 bites ElectronLibre
18:30 Jordach (that was my estimate by ~1000 miles)
18:30 * acerspyro licks everyone in the room
18:30 ElectronLibre Ouch, why?
18:30 acerspyro ElectronLibre, He thinks you're tasty
18:31 benoliver999 Krock: did you accept the cert? If not, would you mind giving it another go please? http://b999.me/b
18:31 benoliver999 I think I hadn't installed the intermediate cert properly
18:33 sfan5 benoliver999: the cert works for me
18:33 sfan5 !seen sapier
18:33 MinetestBot sfan5: sapier was last seen at 2014-08-25 05:57:29 UTC on #minetest
18:33 hoodedice dat link tho
18:33 benoliver999 Thanks man
18:33 benoliver999 hoodedice: ?
18:33 hoodedice nothing
18:33 benoliver999 Sorry it's christmas, my food coma is making me slow
18:34 Jordach ^ same here with alcohol
18:34 acerspyro Yall got too much to drink
18:34 benoliver999 Time for a top up
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18:36 acerspyro I still have the same minetest problem
18:36 acerspyro :C
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18:40 acerspyro got it
18:40 acerspyro was in ./bin
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18:44 acerspyro ,lc
18:44 acerspyro Is the local server supposed to be laggy?
18:44 Jordach acerspyro, err nope
18:44 acerspyro Segmentation fault.
18:44 acerspyro :S
18:44 Jordach Minetest_Game has been like that for a while now
18:45 acerspyro This is dreambuilder
18:45 Jordach then most definitely
18:45 hoodedice Jordach: I told him minetest had improved
18:45 hoodedice *comparatively*
18:45 Jordach BFD on my quad core hasn't had any issues with speed on 64bi
18:45 Jordach bit
18:45 acerspyro Well, I have an acceptable FPS
18:45 Jordach despite having the worst fucking ABMs ever devised
18:45 acerspyro about 50-60
18:46 acerspyro But the server is slow
18:46 acerspyro I press q, item drops 2 seconds later
18:46 acerspyro segfaulted again
18:46 Jordach acerspyro, ./minetestserver then join it
18:46 acerspyro This world segfaults as soon as I join it
18:46 Jordach using 127.0.0.1 port 30000
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18:49 acerspyro I get some LUA errors in the server console
18:50 Jordach there we go]
18:50 Jordach drop me a pastie
18:50 sfan5 acerspyro: Lua not LUA
18:50 acerspyro I tend to capitalize stuff
18:51 sfan5 YOU TEND TO CAPITITALIZE STUFF?
18:51 acerspyro lol
18:51 sfan5 LUA is still incorrect
18:51 hoodedice lUA is more correct, in fact
18:51 acerspyro http://pastie.org/9798702
18:51 acerspyro Jordach, ^
18:51 sfan5 hoodedice: no, it's Lua
18:52 hoodedice sfan, jk
18:52 Jordach acerspyro, those aren't bugs
18:52 hoodedice y so sirius?
18:52 Jordach there small issues that could makes mods faster
18:52 acerspyro client segfaulted
18:52 acerspyro No error, no nothing, just  segfault
18:53 sfan5 use gdb
18:53 acerspyro I am
18:54 Krock !LUA
18:54 Krock mhm there should be a command which returns a link to the LUA repo on github
18:55 hoodedice !pil
18:55 MinetestBot someone thinks you need to brush up on or learn Lua, please go to: http://lua.org/pil/
18:55 hoodedice I love MinetestBot's retorts
18:55 acerspyro 0x00000000006c70db in mapblock_mesh_generate_special(MeshMakeData*, MeshCollector&) ()
18:55 Krock hoodedice, that's not LUA.
18:55 hoodedice !tell MinetestBot I love you
18:55 MinetestBot I'm not dumb, you know?
18:55 sfan5 acerspyro: use a debug build
18:55 acerspyro I am
18:55 hoodedice !g LUA git
18:55 MinetestBot hoodedice: https://github.com/LuaDist/lua
18:56 acerspyro It has debug symbols
18:56 Krock hmm quite hard to find LUA
18:56 acerspyro I'm being disturbed, what's the command to save a trace
18:56 Krock https://github.com/mniip/LUA
18:56 sfan5 hoodedice: https://github.com/mniip/LUA
18:56 hoodedice ahahahaha
18:56 hoodedice this is nice
18:56 Krock ninja'd
18:57 sfan5 acerspyro: do 'bt pull' and pastebin the outpud
18:57 sfan5 output*
18:57 acerspyro full*?
18:57 sfan5 yes
18:58 acerspyro http://pastie.org/9798707
18:59 sfan5 acerspyro: it does not have debug symbols
18:59 sfan5 (at least not minetest)
18:59 acerspyro What do you mean
18:59 acerspyro It would show stuff like (??) if it didn't
18:59 acerspyro oh
18:59 sfan5 wrong
18:59 sfan5 it says No symbol table info available.
18:59 acerspyro no symbol table info available
18:59 acerspyro How do I make a debug build
19:00 sfan5 recompile minetest with -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug
19:00 acerspyro this is the cmake
19:01 Jordach cmake . -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
19:01 Jordach try that in a folder on the desktop or whereever
19:01 acerspyro did
19:02 acerspyro building now
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19:02 acerspyro I never used cmake to build before
19:09 harrison a shetland pony walks into a bar.
19:09 harrison the bartender says "Gee, I think there is a virus going around...
19:09 harrison because I am also a little hoarse!"
19:11 acerspyro ok here we go
19:11 hoodedice a horse walks into a bar.
19:13 acerspyro 27948 lines of debug info?
19:13 acerspyro really?
19:14 acerspyro 2.3 mb of debug info :D
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19:15 acerspyro pastie only does up to 64kb
19:17 hoodedice later people
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19:17 acerspyro Jordach, Is a debug trace supposed to be that big?
19:17 acerspyro https://www.dropbox.com/s/8zl​1htx0jaa09g4/mt_gdb.txt?dl=0
19:18 sfan5 acerspyro: it usually isn't that big
19:18 acerspyro haha
19:18 sfan5 so
19:18 acerspyro This is epic huge
19:19 acerspyro oh
19:19 acerspyro It has info for each single loaded tile in the game
19:19 sfan5 collector=...
19:19 sfan5 p = <optimized out>
19:19 sfan5 how useful
19:19 acerspyro lol
19:20 acerspyro how would I compile without optimizing?
19:22 sfan5 acerspyro: -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS='-O0'
19:22 acerspyro you want useful info?
19:22 acerspyro It doesn't happen with default settings
19:23 acerspyro Default graphics settings
19:23 acerspyro ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 512 mb, FGLRX from repo, Ubuntu 14.10, KDE desktop
19:24 acerspyro let me try all the options
19:24 acerspyro wait
19:24 acerspyro Nevermind, it still crashed after a while
19:25 acerspyro *sigh* recompiling again
19:27 acerspyro sfan5, to use 4 cores, you use -j5, right?
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19:35 acerspyro gnuh
19:36 acerspyro sfan5, still optimized out
19:37 acerspyro cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS='-O0'
19:37 acerspyro sudo make install -j5
19:37 acerspyro is this right?
19:37 mitrom -j200
19:38 acerspyro nei
19:38 mitrom Oh sorry
19:38 mitrom 247
19:39 acerspyro Where'd sfan5 go?
19:40 mitrom Rip
19:40 acerspyro I figured.
19:40 acerspyro Cat got squashed by a car.
19:41 acerspyro Here's a lame joke
19:42 acerspyro Q: What do you call someone who talks all the time when they get run over by a car?
19:42 acerspyro A: Buffer overrun
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19:48 Jordach i should stop being masochistic in my programming http://paste.debian.net/138083
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19:50 grendal_prime hey kids got asus tablets, will this run on them?
19:50 Krock Jordach, use group kitten=1
19:50 acerspyro grendal_prime, I think
19:50 Jordach Krock, too lazy to extend simple mobs
19:50 Krock grendal_prime, depends on the OS
19:50 Jordach grendal_prime, yes
19:50 acerspyro ^
19:50 acerspyro what os
19:50 grendal_prime they are running somthing called multicraft it works good but will not connect to the mintest server
19:50 Jordach (Android has builds availible, but if it's Windows RT, there's no such luck)
19:51 grendal_prime jellybean android i believe
19:51 acerspyro Should work
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19:51 grendal_prime how do the controls work?
19:51 Krock Yeah. Try to install an android minetest build
19:51 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=42&amp;t=9389
19:51 Jordach grendal_prime, https://github.com/minetest/minete​st/releases/download/0.4.10/Minete​st-0.4.10-android-armeabi.apk.zip
19:51 Krock always those ninjas..
19:51 acerspyro In theory, it should be self-explaining, but I haven't tried it myself.
19:52 Jordach the easiest way to get minetest going is on Droid]
19:52 Jordach you install it and you're done
19:53 * Krock can't stop watching star trek episodes today...
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20:01 grendal_prime Jordach, thats what im trying to do
20:01 grendal_prime i got the apk file.
20:01 grendal_prime i put it on the droid and execute it somehow?
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20:02 luizrpgluiz hi
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20:02 grendal_prime sorry guys other than the very consumerlevel methods on android im kinda clueless
20:02 grendal_prime i use it every day but i dont dink outside the interface.
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20:09 Jordach i must be wasted
20:09 * Jordach notices HTML5 + Firefox going through his Virtual Audio Filter, but not normal media players
20:10 Sokomine Jordach: if you said anything before it probably got lost :-( my ssd went on vacation again....
20:10 Jordach Sokomine, aye
20:11 Jordach Sokomine, i finally got kittens spawning and made a microAPI on top of simple mobs to make them easier to make
20:11 Sokomine it switches into read-only mode. logfiles and other files can no longer be written :-(
20:11 Jordach Sokomine, power saving is the highest cause
20:11 Sokomine kittens spawning sounds *very* good! where are they?
20:12 Jordach http://paste.debian.net/138083
20:12 Sokomine not in a desktop. a ssd should not go into read-only mode for no apparent reason
20:12 Jordach Sokomine, check power saving features just in case
20:13 Sokomine Jordach: can the kittens be seen on your server already?
20:13 Jordach yes
20:13 Jordach provided that buildings have those specific nodes
20:13 Sokomine they are kitten-spawners?
20:13 Sokomine do they keep looking for a potential cat-feeder when spawning? :)
20:14 Jordach Sokomine, those nodes you can find kittens on
20:14 Jordach they want somewhere warm and soft to nap on
20:15 * Jordach realises his storage basement will end up with kittens inside
20:16 Jordach Sokomine, they'll even sleep on furnaces if they're active
20:16 Sokomine *g*
20:17 Jordach except they're smart enough not to go in :)
20:18 grendal_prime ok installed works great on the android. Still does not want to connect to my server though. hmmm
20:18 grendal_prime looks like multicraft is basically a renamed version of mintest for android.
20:19 grendal_prime uses same config files from what i can tell.
20:22 Johnsen2 Hello sokomine
20:22 Johnsen2 (。◕‿‿◕。) MERRY CHRISTMAS HO HO HO
20:22 Johnsen2 Hi Jordach... (。◕‿‿◕。) MERRY CHRISTMAS HO HO HO
20:22 Johnsen2 And to everyone else
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20:25 Johnsen2 bye gtg
20:25 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/co​mmit/221e42cbd91971205373bfa5e3c89bff1849b3c2
20:26 Johnsen2 ill be back today
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20:47 sfan5 acerspyro: maybe its a different cmake flag
20:48 acerspyro ah
20:48 acerspyro There you are
20:51 acerspyro I gotta go for the day, tho
20:51 acerspyro cya
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21:20 Jordach dammit, this wasn't meant to happen! https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=165857#p165857
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21:29 kaeza greetings
21:31 Jordach grendal_prime, and they are illegal too
21:31 Krock Jordach, wut happen
21:31 Krock kaeza, merry xmas there!
21:31 Jordach Krock, BFD 0.5 RC2
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21:32 Krock Jordach, Y not edit RC1? Doing that silent.
21:36 kaeza Merry Christmas Krock
21:36 kaeza Merry Christmas all
21:36 Krock ^^
21:37 ElectronLibre Merry christmas kaeza.
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21:48 Jordach https://mediacru.sh/f6a2a1dfc02b vs https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=9036 (In that spoiler section)
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21:53 Krock Jordach, why not glasslike drawtype?
21:54 Jordach Krock, where?!
21:54 * Krock points at the windos
21:54 Krock +w
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21:54 Jordach which set of screenshots
21:55 Krock here: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/u/ue0bOfyaCC14.png
21:55 Krock wait. it's visible in all screenshots
21:55 Krock except of the latest
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22:08 Jordach Krock, that is glasslike
22:13 grendal_prime Jordach, what are illegal?
22:13 Jordach Multicraft, Worldbuilder etc
22:13 grendal_prime damn it..something else is illegal? when will this ind.
22:13 Jordach while the client i linked you is built by the developers without ads :)
22:14 grendal_prime there is illegal stuff on the internet?
22:14 Jordach yes, sometimes even in Google Play
22:14 grendal_prime ya i get what you mean.  Ya it seems the one you sent works fine its basically what we have installed on the ubuntu workstations here
22:15 Jordach grendal_prime, eventually i may make it so you can turn touchscreen mode on if you have a surface tablet by a settings tab setting
22:15 grendal_prime right so same build for all platforms....workstation and touch device.. makes sence
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22:17 grendal_prime I wish i could get these memopads to mount an smb share..like acutally mount it so the kids could watch movies off of the movie share here.
22:18 grendal_prime anyway thanks for the link the boy is pointing and killing zombies. He was having some sort of issue with the module browser tool, but he aparently found some other way to get the stuff he wanted.
22:19 Jordach grendal_prime, /sdcard/minetest/mods/
22:20 Jordach drop mods in there if need be, and you can always enable them via the configure world menu
22:20 grendal_prime k thanks.
22:21 grendal_prime you work allot with android os, is there an app that will actually mount a remote ciffs share onto the file system so the files can be accessed directly without download?
22:22 grendal_prime this little limitation is so frustrating im thinking about installing ubuntu touch on one of these devices just to see how well it works.
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23:25 carbust still no delivery
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23:40 Johnsen2 Jordach, Lol he doesn't listen.....
23:48 T4im is there any way to "block" tablet/phone users? there seems to be some innofficial client out there thats digging randomly when people do stuff in formspecs or something other non-digging related.. :/
23:48 Johnsen2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtuVP8Mj4o
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