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00:10 hisforever ty Kaeza I'll ask them
00:12 hisforever Hi how Di I send a prvet message is it /msg name the the message?
00:12 hisforever di = do
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00:18 zBuilder hello
00:18 kaeza hi
00:19 zBuilder this game is fun but it crashes frequently with no error message given. am I missing something or is it normally flaky?
00:20 VanessaE no, that's not normal.  look in debug.txt for error messages
00:21 zBuilder actually looking again there are some warnings, just not at the end where the actual crash happens
00:22 zBuilder 19:08:28: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer [127.0.0.1] joins game.
00:22 zBuilder Irrlicht log: Could not open file of texture: 19:08:28: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer joins game. List of players: singleplayer
00:22 zBuilder Irrlicht log: Could not open file of texture:
00:22 zBuilder Irrlicht log: Could not open file of texture:
00:22 zBuilder Irrlicht log: Could not open file of texture:
00:22 zBuilder was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
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00:23 VanessaE do as that bot says...  put the last run where it has a crash, from debug.txt onto a pastebin site
00:24 zBuilder sorry about
00:24 VanessaE it happens, that's why ShadowBot exists :)
00:25 zBuilder http://pastebin.com/yMwNEuHm
00:25 VanessaE there should be more
00:25 VanessaE when the program exits,
00:26 VanessaE there will be extra stuff in the log
00:26 zBuilder it has a lot of lines about digging and placing nodes and then it just ends. in debug.txt at least
00:26 VanessaE also, you can ignore those warnings
00:27 VanessaE ok, that sounds like a segfault or so
00:27 VanessaE what version of MT is this?
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00:28 zBuilder 0.4.10 win64
00:28 VanessaE ok at least that's current...
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00:28 VanessaE can you try one of the dev builds on the forums?
00:29 VanessaE 0.4.10 is "current" only in the sense that it's the most recent release but it's still kinda old
00:29 zBuilder there's also 2, one that says msvc and another that says mingw, not sure what the difference is unless the compiler affects it
00:29 VanessaE that's exactly what that means
00:29 VanessaE if one doesn't work for you, try the other :)
00:29 VanessaE but try a development build first.  same web page, scroll down a bit
00:29 VanessaE there are links to several forum pages therte
00:29 VanessaE there*
00:30 VanessaE well there was.
00:30 VanessaE "builds made by community members"
00:30 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=42
00:30 VanessaE try one of the top five links on this page
00:31 zBuilder I'm looking at the list now :) thanks for the help I
00:31 zBuilder 'll see if it makes a change :)
00:31 VanessaE good luck :)
00:31 VanessaE 0.4.11 should be out soon-ish (I dunno exactly when)
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00:47 Zephlon what exactly does "Segmentation fault" mean?
00:49 RealBadAngel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmentation_fault
00:49 kaeza http://xkcd.com/371/
00:50 VanessaE Zephlon: you know, the old "This program has performed an illegal operation" message?
00:50 VanessaE segfault is just the proper name for that.
00:50 RealBadAngel another question is why folks are afraid to ask uncle bout simple questions ;)
00:52 RealBadAngel 90% of IT technican work time is asking google about customers problems. and they do pay for it
00:52 Zephlon ok, so how do I fix it?
00:52 zBuilder sounds like a fun job
00:52 RealBadAngel its even more fun
00:53 RealBadAngel reinstalling the operating system on acer laptops
00:53 RealBadAngel we do press restore button, wait an hour, happy customer pays for our time
00:54 RealBadAngel sometimes i do wonder how ppl can be so stupid
00:54 zBuilder I see some people do that where I go during the day, they basically plug in the disk,press a few buttons,and hope no one asks them annoying questions while it's proccessingXD
00:56 RealBadAngel after one month working there i can say, folks are dumb, they click always on "proceed" and are sick -  they have a fear to use google
00:57 RealBadAngel and even if they are aware of google, all they do type there is "xxx"
00:57 kaeza <_<
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01:02 twoelk|2 always hearing how bad google has turned, gathering all that information about everyone, does seem to have affect then
01:03 zBuilder people who click "proceed" often get tones of toolbars, fake chat apps,etc
01:04 zBuilder *click procede without reading
01:04 twoelk but I guess knowing how to search might have to be learned beginning with knowing exactly what one wants to know
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01:10 twoelk I recently installed chrome by mistake where it shouldn't be when updating some adobe stuff. They had changed the place of the box I had to uncheck. doing things in routine autopilot can give unsuspected results
01:10 zBuilder that's how they get you
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01:16 hisforeverkid Where Can I go to get a the basic start of a body?
01:17 hisforeverkid I'd like to do My own Skin
01:18 shadowzone go to www.minecraftskins.net
01:18 shadowzone And edit a skin.
01:19 hisforeverkid ty Shadow
01:20 shadowzone Np
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01:42 hisforeverkid Now How Do I get the Skin to VanessaE so it can be my skin on server?
01:43 twoelk give her the link to the skin, so she can download it to the server
01:44 hisforeverkid ok ty
01:44 twoelk or paste it in the server thread
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01:46 hisforeverkid ok ty
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01:54 hisforeverkid VanessaE are you here?
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02:05 hisforeverkid I posted the link to the Skin I liked on VanessaE forum God bless my friends going to bed.
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08:14 oOChainLynxOo It's really, really, really quiet
08:16 Ataron Yes...
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09:23 Megaf Hi everyone, I'm quite impressed by Debian Jessie with GNOME 3, I installed it on an usb flash drive on my Asus Eee PC 701 netbook and it boots quite quickly and it runs very smootly too. Really good stuff.
09:23 Megaf Of course it won't be able to play minetest at a playable FPS tho
09:24 Hirato_ well yeah, that's because it's running GNOME ;)
09:25 Megaf lol, I tried playing Minetest here with LXDE (Openbox WM) and still wasn't playable
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10:10 * kilbith is tweaking the menu... https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Y0d4ozZUQDWt.png
10:11 Amaz Nice!
10:12 kilbith just experiment atm
10:12 kilbith next step for the tabs, etc.
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10:32 Amaz This is a random question: What happens when the server list reaches its limit? It currently says Servers: 70/74, what happens if 75 servers announce to it?
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10:40 RealBadAngel bing bang
10:44 Fritigern Amaz, knowing the way computers behalve, i would say that server #76 will be S.O.L.
10:44 Fritigern *behave
10:45 Amaz S.O.L?
10:45 Fritigern Sh*t Out of Luck
10:45 Amaz Okay :D
10:45 Fritigern No more room at the inn :-)
10:46 Amaz XD
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10:56 twoelk Amaz: that caption can rather be translated to "of the 74 servers that have recently announced their existence 70 are currently online, alive and kicking"
10:57 Fritigern Ah, so 74 is not the capacity, it is the number of known servers!
10:57 Fritigern But what is "recently"? Is it the last day, week, month?
10:58 Amaz Ah, okay!
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11:01 MinetestBot [git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Fix profiler values not being updated (F6) and not being logged 45ebaa3 http://git.io/OhpSdg (2014-11-11T20:58:57+10:00)
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11:03 twoelk oops, meow at sfan5 for more details.         Maybe you can bribe him with a fishy
11:03 * ElectronLibre gives twoelk some fish for sfan5.
11:05 Zeno` :3
11:05 twoelk add "/list" to the address like http://servers.minetest.net/list for the raw data (not that it enlightens much, but it is fun - er - for some)
11:07 Fritigern Compilation of minetest completed in 0:00:19
11:07 ElectronLibre It's very fun to my eyes, they starts burning seeing all that messy text *-*.
11:07 Amaz Fritigern, not fair!!! :(
11:08 Fritigern Meh, it's just a tiny change. I'm surprized to took a whole 19 seconds!
11:08 ElectronLibre How can you compile it in 19 seconds? You've already compiled it and restarted for only one file or what? O_O
11:09 twoelk actually this might enlighten more about the serverlist: https://github.com/minetest/master-server
11:09 Fritigern It's not a clean compile. I just update every time an update comes out
11:10 Fritigern A clean compile takes me less than 2 minutes though.
11:11 ElectronLibre Ok, I see.. I was suprised because when I compile from the beginning, it takes me at least 20 minutes..
11:12 Fritigern My build script: https://gist.github.com/Fri​tigern/4e21484ec27d6416cc49
11:12 Zeno` 20 minutes is a long time
11:13 Zeno` although... Qt takes a few hours to build on my machine hehe so compared to that I guess 20 minutes is ok
11:13 sol_invictus ElectronLibre: are you compiling on a single core?
11:14 ElectronLibre I use two cores, because I only have two cores..
11:14 exio4 Zeno`: have you ever compiled a full setup of KDE4?
11:15 Zeno` you can probably do -j4 ElectronLibre
11:15 Zeno` exio4, no thanks :)
11:15 ElectronLibre I'm gonna try, but I only have two cores, not sure -j4 will help me a lot.
11:15 exio4 I wouldn't do it, I would benchmark a little bit, with 5m~ programs, -j1, -j2, -j3, and -j4, and see which one performs better, maybe -j2 is the right value
11:16 * Fritigern has an i7 with 6 cores, using hyperthreading, it makes the system believe it has 12 cores.
11:16 exio4 Zeno`: xorg+kde4 took 1~ day with my old laptop
11:16 Zeno` maybe it is... but it depends what's meant by "cores"
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11:17 Zeno` exio4, I'd fall asleep watching the process (for some reason I watch it... like the download progress bar)
11:17 exio4 Zeno`: have you benchmarked minetest's compile time with -jN? from N=1 to N=12 or something like that?
11:17 exio4 the same for Fritigern
11:17 Fritigern Look at my script, lines 46-51. That finds the number of *reported* cores, and then uses all of them, minus one.
11:17 Fritigern exio4: I have not
11:18 Zeno` exio4, no... I just use -j8
11:18 Fritigern If you want to use all available cores, you can use -j$(nproc)
11:18 Zeno` since 4 cores with hyperthreading should work fine with -j8
11:18 exio4 I have seen a few benchmarks with hyperthreading basically adding only 1% or even reducing the performance of some cpu-heavy things, maybe you can benchmark and find that -j7 or -j6 give better numbers?
11:19 Fritigern exio4: I am using HTT only because i love how the reported 12 cores look :-)
11:19 exio4 I only have six cores :(
11:19 exio4 unfair!
11:20 Fritigern I have "only" 6 real cores myself
11:20 exio4 I have three modules and two cores per module
11:21 exio4 at least the speedup is linear with my cores :P
11:22 Zeno` what i7 has 6 physical cores?
11:22 exio4 the last time I "benchmarked" make on minetest's source, it took about minute and half, counting cmake and stuff
11:22 exio4 Zeno`: extreme editions
11:22 exio4 basically the i7 that instead of being just expensive, is insanely expensive
11:22 Zeno` lol
11:22 Zeno` I thought mine was expensive enough
11:23 exio4 the only thing I have against intel is that they give you +20% performance improvement with +80% the price
11:23 RealBadAngel im using -j2 always
11:24 Zeno` This computer is Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz  ... I will overclock it again one day
11:24 Zeno` don't really need to overclock right now though
11:24 RealBadAngel im on core2
11:24 exio4 I have a FX 6100
11:25 Zeno` I'm bidding on ebay for a core 2 :D
11:25 exio4 overclocked at 4GHz (practically) since I got it, with stock cooling :P
11:26 Zeno` basically getting a computer that I can test better on
11:26 exio4 Zeno`: heh, I always used an old sempron for that
11:26 exio4 good old single core sempron overclocked at 2.5ghz :3
11:27 Zeno` yeah I used to keep all my old stuff but then about a year ago I gave it all away (doh!)
11:27 exio4 I am the one who people give their old stuff :p
11:27 Zeno` but it went to a good place, so it's ok
11:28 Zeno` the *only* big regret I have is giving away my commodore 64 and Amiga
11:28 exio4 I have re-used most of the computers, a few old boxes are now headless servers in some places
11:28 exio4 Zeno`: WHAT?!
11:28 exio4 Zeno`: you did... what?!
11:28 Zeno` yeah, I gave them away :(
11:28 Zeno` big mistake
11:29 exio4 btw, anyone did http://10fastfingers.com/typing-test/english?
11:29 Zeno` I think I must have been insane
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11:30 SylvieLorxu exio4: http://10fastfingers.com/speedtests/generate_scr​eenshot_result/84_431_0_0_77_2_94.46_9012_162540
11:31 exio4 I had 94 two times and the last word wrong :(
11:31 exio4 last word >.>
11:31 Fritigern Zeno`: About your question which i7 has 6 cores:It's the Intel Core i7 CPU X 990 @ 3.47GHz (3333 MHz)
11:31 Fritigern So, an X 990
11:32 exio4 that is an old i7
11:32 Fritigern http://goo.gl/uXkgWF
11:33 Fritigern I never claimed the thing to be brand-spanking new ;-)
11:33 Zeno` the important thing is how many bogomips (LOL)
11:33 Fritigern No, the important thing is if i am happy with the motherlover ;-)
11:33 Zeno` haha
11:33 Zeno` $1059 :-o
11:34 exio4 now, I want to laugh when you try to virtualize and use vga passthru :3
11:34 exio4 you can't do http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_VGA_Passthrough with intel cpus
11:35 exio4 intel K* cpus
11:35 Zeno` you talking about mine?
11:35 exio4 I guess if *K cpus don't have some feature, the X edition won't have it either
11:36 Fritigern BTW, i've paid for this second hand machine.......... $700. It came in a Coolermaster case, 10,000rpm drive (velociraptor), 2 WAY outdated Nvidia cards, 12 Gb of 1333Mhz DDR3
11:36 Zeno` I don't care... I have 4 pcie slots
11:37 exio4 Zeno`: PCI passthru is for dedicating PCI slots to a VM
11:37 Zeno` And you're sure that doesn't work with 4770k?
11:37 exio4 the *K versions are known for taking out "cool features" like this one
11:38 Zeno` I'm still happy. I'm not sure I want PCI passthru although I guess it would be good if I installed Windows on a VM
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11:39 exio4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Cor​e_i7_microprocessors#Haswell_microarchitecture
11:39 * Fritigern uses VirtualBox on occasion.
11:40 exio4 All models except the i7-4770K additionally support Intel TSX-NI and Intel VT-d
11:41 exio4 it is kinda funny
11:41 Zeno` oh well :)
11:42 exio4 because an OCd i7 would be nice for a power desktop, with dedicated GPUs for VMs and nice stuff(tm)
11:42 exio4 you can't use it nicely
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12:12 Zeno` no wonder I hate capitalism
12:12 Zeno` $80k to defend a properly registered TM
12:13 RealBadAngel wtf is Groupon?
12:13 Amaz ^
12:13 Zeno` some kind of special discount thingy I think
12:14 Zeno` US of course
12:14 Zeno` A point of sale OS called Gnome
12:14 Zeno` wtf
12:15 Zeno` http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupon
12:15 Zeno` yeah... *sure* they've never heard of Gnome before
12:16 RealBadAngel i never heard of those fuckers before
12:16 exio4 they never heard of it
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12:16 Zeno` but they have heard of it now and still refuse to back down
12:17 someguy_irc Hola Zenie
12:20 Zeno` I don't even use Gnome DE, but I am fucking annoyed that they would have to spend (at least probably) $80k to defend their trademark :/
12:20 Zeno` 'ello someguy_irc
12:20 someguy_irc wait a min?
12:20 someguy_irc Did i Detect swear.
12:20 someguy_irc yep.
12:21 exio4 it is insanely annoying that it is 80kUSD, I mean, they had to register the trademark and all the crap
12:21 Zeno` yeah, I haven't sworn in months
12:22 Zeno` I am out of work atm, but I will give them some money
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12:22 Zeno` gotta support what I believe in
12:22 Hirato_ lol
12:23 Hirato_ best prep some popcorn methinks
12:23 exio4 I can't really donate
12:23 exio4 I don't have any credit card, and my debit card is useless for anything international
12:23 Zeno` maybe c55 could give all the ad revenue from minetest forum to them :p
12:23 Zeno` do they have ads?
12:23 Zeno` I dunno lol
12:25 Amaz That would be a good idea...
12:25 Hirato_ on one hand, I want GNOME to suffer, on the other, GNOME's been around for ages under that name and has been making the backing organisations some income over the years. so it should be a pretty clear cut case under the law anyhoo
12:26 Zeno` I hate Gnome... but it's not the point :)
12:26 exio4 I agree with Zeno`
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12:27 SylvieLorxu Hirato_: Yeah, I'm basically trying to figure out if I hate GNOME enough to want to let them rot or not :/
12:28 Hirato_ on one hand, if they stop influencing the direction of the Loonix desktop we win, on the other it sets a dangerous precedent for FOSS projects
12:28 Amaz But, as freenode said: This goes beyond just GNOME;
12:28 SylvieLorxu Amaz: But it also directly helps GNOME
12:28 SylvieLorxu That's basically the thing where me and Hirato_ are unsure on what to do
12:29 Hirato_ I've already decided, sitting on the sidelines with popcorn
12:29 SylvieLorxu Someone just donated $2
12:29 Amaz So, not helping Gnome, but, at the same time (possible) damaging the entire FOSS community is the best course of action?
12:29 SylvieLorxu So I guess I can refuse to donate
12:30 SylvieLorxu Amaz: Both options (possibly) damage the entire FOSS community
12:30 SylvieLorxu Hell, just look at all the crap GNOME is doing. PulseAudio, systemd, etc.
12:30 SylvieLorxu Things didn't get better
12:30 Hirato_ gnome winning the court case is by far the lesser evil tbh :p
12:30 SylvieLorxu Yeah, probably
12:31 Amaz Yep.
12:31 Amaz You have to chose between the "lesser of two evils" in this case ;)
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12:32 Hirato_ I still think the case should be very clear cut under common trademark law in gnome's favour
12:32 Amaz Yep.
12:33 SylvieLorxu That is true, but all the money is on Groupon's side
12:33 SylvieLorxu And we all know how messed up law gets when all the money is on a side
12:33 SylvieLorxu Even if that side is clearly in the wrong
12:33 SylvieLorxu I still expect GNOME to win but this may very well be a lot closer than it ought to be
12:38 Amaz The main worry is about setting precedents imo.
12:42 exio4 Zeno`: you're coredev now? congratz!
12:43 MMN-o SylvieLorxu: I'm not sure what experience you've had... But I haven't had to configure a single ALSA config file, xorg.conf or locale/charset stuff for the last 5 years.
12:44 MMN-o though network-manager has annoyed me at times, it's mostly been because I've been trying to override it without disabling it first ;)
12:46 MMN-o So I'm pretty happy with the GNOME folks' work. And I'm pretty sure my friends who are now running GNU/Linux instead of Windows - and have no idea what a sound subsystem is - are even happier that everything works out of the box :)
12:47 SylvieLorxu MMN-o: ALSA has always worked out of the box for me, PulseAudio still can't properly play sound on my desktop. systemd used to break my login system. By now it "works" but God, is it a bloated mess by developers that don't care about regressions. It already has had, what, 9 CVE's? That's pretty damn bad
12:47 Hirato_ for me, pulseaudio only started working with version 5.0 ;P
12:48 Zeno` exio4, thanks
12:48 Hirato_ prior to that, it was just broken
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13:10 RealBadAngel i have poted that notice on Groupon Poland FB profile
13:11 Zeno` good :)
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13:15 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/jondDlM.png
13:15 RealBadAngel had to use my gf account ;)
13:16 RealBadAngel i dont have a valid one, i hate fb
13:16 kilbith in progress... https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ZToXCkTdsWqA.jpg
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13:19 Zeno` I don't have a valid gf either
13:22 RealBadAngel :P
13:23 RealBadAngel i meant i dont have a valid fb acc
13:27 Zeno` lol :P
13:27 Amaz XD
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13:56 Trixar Is there a way to route Minetet through a proxy server?
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14:22 _Esteban A spam: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=3&amp;t=10567&amp;p=161595#p161595
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14:25 PenguinDad Looks like some searching for a leather sofa mod :P
14:26 Amaz XD
14:27 * ElectronLibre hates when people take the right to show him ads, mainly when it's in a place that shouldn't contain ads -_-
14:30 ElectronLibre What is the best to you : answer and say it's very rude to do that, or don't answer at all?
14:31 Amaz don't answer at all
14:32 ElectronLibre That's exacly what I was thinking. So just wait for any moderator/administrator to remove that.
14:33 ElectronLibre *Let's just wait
14:34 Amaz sfan5, ShadowNinja, VanessaE ^
14:34 Amaz There we go :)
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14:41 kilbith https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ipzlq2S2uRfb.jpg
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14:44 ElectronLibre kilbith: What's the difference between this picture and the one you posted earlier?
14:45 kilbith it's obvious
14:45 kilbith look carefully
14:46 sol_invictus hmm, is it possible for someone without privs to get higher amount items in a stack than defined by default?
14:47 ElectronLibre Oh, I see. You've modified the colour of the menu?
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14:47 kilbith not the colour
14:47 sol_invictus there is a person on my server that has huge stacks of different items without any privs whatsoever
14:48 ElectronLibre sol_invictus: perhaps he has found them on the floor ._.
14:49 sol_invictus that's highly unlikely as I'm not giving privs to anyone
14:50 sol_invictus as far as I know the only way to override stack size is /give(me) command
14:50 sol_invictus and apart me there is only one person that has it
14:50 ElectronLibre kilbith: I cannot see.. What did you changed?
14:51 kilbith ...
14:52 ElectronLibre I can only see that the menu seems to be in three dimension effect, but nothing else... ._.
14:52 kilbith buy a pair of glasses
14:54 PenguinDad Oh god that banding
14:54 ElectronLibre I already have a pair of glasses..
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14:56 ElectronLibre The clouds are the same, there is the same amount of tabs, the menu's color is different, that's it ._.
14:58 kilbith there's a lighting gradiant
14:58 kilbith 2 even
14:59 PenguinDad kilbith: you should dither that gradient
14:59 kilbith dither ?
14:59 ElectronLibre Oh, yes, I see ._.
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15:04 kilbith also : https://cdn.mediacru.sh/I3rKJgOx_wQq.jpg
15:06 PenguinDad kilbith: that won't look well on my screen :/
15:06 kilbith how so ?
15:06 kilbith zoom to 100% for see the real thing
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15:14 PenguinDad kilbith: just look at the bar with the game buttons http://a.pomf.se/yiracb.png
15:14 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad
15:15 * PenguinDad pets sfan5
15:15 kilbith PenguinDad: you have customized the menu ?
15:15 PenguinDad kilbith: I haven't customized it
15:16 kilbith why the game bar is merged with the world menu so ?
15:16 PenguinDad buggy formspec scaling :/
15:17 kilbith i guess it's an uncommon bug
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15:55 catninja hm does anyone see the the server Catalania in the public server list?
15:57 hoodedice !up Catalania
15:57 MinetestBot hoodedice: Invalid Address
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15:58 hoodedice I am getting a bit rusted with MinetestBot usage
15:58 hoodedice Try servers.minetest.net in your browser
15:58 SylvieLorxu !server Catalania
15:58 MinetestBot SylvieLorxu: No results
15:58 hoodedice SylvieLorxu: is that a thing now?
15:58 SylvieLorxu I don't know, I sometimes see people use !server
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15:59 hoodedice PilzAdam!
15:59 * PilzAdam !
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16:00 hoodedice -*-
16:00 shadowzone Hi
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16:00 catninja hoodedice: so it is listed?
16:01 hoodedice Did you mean: Cascadia?
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16:03 catninja no
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16:08 hoodedice Catalania must be down
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16:08 catninja No it's not down, just not listed. I didn't list it to begin with so im not shur how to fix it now
16:09 catninja playing alone is no fun!
16:09 * ElectronLibre isn't really confortable with this text client >_>
16:09 hoodedice oh. !g Minetest how to public server
16:09 hoodedice !g Minetest how to public server
16:09 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://minetest.net/servers
16:11 hoodedice catninja: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/b​lob/master/minetest.conf.example#L260
16:11 catninja minetest.umeahackerspace.se 60000 ( try /spawn) if someone have a moment to spare anyway. it runs Lord of the test
16:16 twoelk catninja: does it have a forum thread?
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16:22 * twoelk will now spare some seconds
16:24 hoodedice to?
16:24 twoelk eh? can't write to file cache?
16:24 catninja oh?
16:24 catninja it says that you have joined
16:25 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: what text client?
16:25 twoelk indeed I have. looking at some donkeys on bright grass now
16:26 twoelk hm floating papyrus
16:26 twoelk oh hobbitses
16:27 Viper168 I need to try minetest again, last time I tried to get online with it an error got spit at me
16:27 Viper168 forget what it was
16:28 ElectronLibre PenguinDad: WeeChat.
16:28 * twoelk always thought the colors of LOT where a tad on the candy bright side.
16:33 ElectronLibre It's quite difficult to me tu understand how WeeChat works, but after 6 hours of use, I understand the basic things.
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16:38 twoelk catninja: here's something to munch, but I guess nothing important, http://pastebin.com/3vTFxJ6j
16:41 * catninja do not understand what that is
16:41 catninja *does
16:43 twoelk the debug text of me joining your server
16:44 catninja okay
16:44 catninja but you can still play?
16:44 twoelk hm got an unknown item in a gondorian chest
16:45 twoelk I can interact as expected
16:45 Amaz twolek, yeah, there are a few unknown items.
16:45 Amaz Trying to fix that :)
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16:46 twoelk but I have not tried if I can see armour for example so I do not know if the textures are really missing
16:46 Amaz Only the bronze helmet has a missing texture.
16:47 Amaz (AFAIK)
16:53 twoelk these gondorian castles are really close to each other and placed right under a hanging cliff. Not very strategic
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16:57 twoelk great, running around on a public server in my underwear and I don't notice ;-D
16:58 Amaz XD
16:59 catninja twoelk: the spawning algorith is probably not that smart
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16:59 Amaz It isn't.
17:01 twoelk yeah, spawning me in underwear might not be the best sight X-D
17:02 twoelk two castles besides a hobbit village is great for looting
17:02 Amaz XD
17:03 twoelk - but got to stop playing for now
17:03 catninja :C such alone
17:03 catninja my town lacks a proper bar
17:04 twoelk make a nice forum thread and add pictures one after the other to bump the subject for a while
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17:23 Jordach !cat
17:23 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/qYdPjox.jpg
17:24 hoodedice THERE YOU ARE
17:24 hoodedice Get on tox, biatch
17:24 Jordach nao
17:28 Calinou hi hoodedice
17:29 Calinou long time no see?
17:29 hoodedice yo
17:29 hoodedice ya, got college and stuff
17:29 hoodedice most free time is spent on Unity3D
17:29 Calinou must be hell
17:29 Calinou they called it hell on earth 20 years ago, even
17:30 hoodedice or Android Studio (IDEA)
17:30 hoodedice unity? nah, only the FBX importer is hell
17:30 hoodedice And Jordach here isn't helping
17:30 Jordach because i has my own life too
17:31 hoodedice but but
17:31 Calinou FBX does suck, that's widely known
17:31 Calinou writing a working exporter-importer for it is like solving NP = P
17:33 hoodedice As a freshman, every problem can be solved by
17:33 hoodedice "put a for loop in it"
17:33 hoodedice XD
17:33 Calinou 1st year of university/college is mostly meaningless
17:34 Calinou also, bullying
17:34 hoodedice you tell me
17:34 hoodedice no bullying here #MURICA
17:34 stakewinner00 "1st year of university/college is mostly meaningless" xD
17:34 hoodedice It is 9001% true
17:34 stakewinner00 I know.
17:35 Calinou hoodedice> no bullying here #MURICA
17:35 Calinou lol
17:42 * Jordach would happily take hoodedice to mars
17:42 hoodedice (no homo)
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18:55 twoelk1 dada, playing with a new client
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18:56 twoelk hmm, InstantBird is another one I want to try
19:01 JohnnyComeL8ly I think I can promise you satisfaction!
19:02 JohnnyComeL8ly With Instantbird, I mean.
19:03 twoelk might be so, Portable-Pidgin looks sort of ugly and seems to lack some irc tools
19:04 twoelk so a portable InstantBird will be the next thing to try and see if it is better than KVirc
19:05 JohnnyComeL8ly I wonder why you need a portable version...
19:06 twoelk I run most of my stuff from a portable device
19:06 JohnnyComeL8ly Okay, but why?
19:06 twoelk that way I have all I need whereever I go
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19:07 twoelk I keep working on many different machines all the time
19:07 Krock twoelk, you've got a purple IRC?
19:07 JohnnyComeL8ly Okay.
19:08 twoelk yeah, seems pidgin set my name to purple :-)
19:09 twoelk oh, Krock I got a new tab with your name, interesting
19:10 ElectronLibre The power or the query.
19:10 Krock a new tab?
19:10 twoelk aha: Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to twoelk) from Krock
19:10 Krock mhm NetTalk needs a new feature
19:10 Krock didn't know that's possible to log
19:10 twoelk interesting, KVirc doesn't offer that
19:11 twoelk I mean the KrockinTabinfo, KVirc does offer logs
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19:23 Jorpez_ how can i add monsters in my server on ubuntu?
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19:24 Calinou Jorpez_, install a mobs mod
19:24 Jorpez_ how can i install one on ubuntu? repository?
19:24 Calinou like https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=9656
19:24 Calinou there is no package for them
19:24 Calinou you just drop it to ~/.minetest/mods (create if needed)
19:24 Calinou then enable the mod in the Configure menu of your world
19:24 Calinou (on a server: edit the world's world.mt file, add “load_mod_carbone_mobs = true”)
19:24 Calinou while the server is stopped
19:25 ElectronLibre And don't forget to rename the directory with the exact name of the mod.
19:26 JohnnyComeL8ly Calinou, what does "load_mod_carbone_mobs = true" do for you?
19:26 Calinou it loads the mod on the particular world
19:27 JohnnyComeL8ly Do you replace "carbone_mobs" with your mod?
19:28 JohnnyComeL8ly Your mod's name, I mean.
19:28 Calinou the mod name is carbone_mobs
19:31 JohnnyComeL8ly Alrighty.  That editing of the file does the same thing as using the menu in Minetest to configure the mods though, am I correct? (I don't know much... just trying to glean info.)
19:31 Amaz Yep.
19:31 Amaz Calinou, you may find this server interesting... :)
19:31 Amaz !server Fancy Mapgen
19:31 MinetestBot Amaz: Fancy Mapgen | minetest.ig42.org:30001 | Clients: 1/10, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / carbone | Ping: 241ms
19:31 Calinou cool
19:32 Calinou JohnnyComeL8ly, yes
19:32 JohnnyComeL8ly OK! Thanks!
19:32 JohnnyComeL8ly (To the both of you.)
19:34 Krock Amaz, fancy?
19:34 Amaz Just a name.
19:34 Amaz Couldn't think of anything else :P
19:34 Amaz (Otherwords, mgv5)
19:34 Krock ah
19:35 Amaz If you have a better name, please suggest it :D
19:35 Krock "MGv5 in action"
19:36 Amaz Nice!
19:37 JohnnyComeL8ly Or... Extravagant Mapgen... maybe not. :-)
19:37 Krock "New Grounds"
19:39 Krock !doge
19:39 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000060 BTC
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19:39 Krock !doge again pls
19:39 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/HhjNnIX.png
19:44 Krock Amaz, are you using a special mod for the biomes? I can't find anything in the carbone source code
19:45 Amaz Yep.
19:45 Amaz Let me find it...
19:46 Jordach PFFFFFT
19:46 Amaz https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=10512
19:46 Jordach not sure if i want to go chrome again
19:46 Jordach >sponsored tiles
19:46 Krock Jordach, srware iron
19:47 Krock Amaz, thanks
19:50 * catninja still plays alone... (minetest.umeahackerspace.se 60000)
19:51 * ElectronLibre gives catninja NPCs
19:54 catninja I've actually made NPCs before, like ~10st because noone wanted to play with me, I populated almost a city
19:54 * Krock does not like GitHub's tab width of 8
19:55 Jordach shots fired
19:55 JohnnyComeL8ly None found a home...
19:55 * Jordach joins
19:55 * Jordach pets catninja
19:55 JohnnyComeL8ly Haha!
19:56 y Krock: tabs sucks
19:57 Krock y, y?
19:57 Jordach >60 fps in main menu with clouds
19:57 Jordach that's a first
19:57 ShadowNinja Krock: I do.
19:57 Krock I prefer the width 5 - much more space for codes
19:58 y 5 sounds sucky, I like to use 2 or 4, depending on the context and how many nested functions I have
19:58 ShadowNinja The only code I use a width of less than 8 with is HTML, because the indentation can et really deep.
19:58 PilzAdam Krock, https://github.com/minetest/minet​est/blob/master/src/main.cpp?ts=2
19:58 Krock Yeah, I know that situation :3
19:59 ShadowNinja I hate space indentation, especially short space indentation (1-3 spaces).
19:59 Krock PilzAdam, looks good
20:00 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Aww, it's limited to 16 spaces.  :-|
20:00 Krock I tried 80.. looked the same as with 30 :(
20:02 Jordach 4 spaces for a tab for president
20:03 y spaces are better than tabs
20:04 rubenwardy No!
20:04 * Krock trout-slaps y
20:06 * ElectronLibre keeps wondering y y.
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20:11 Krock okay, mgv5 doesn't like Y = 47
20:11 PenguinDad eee​w space indent
20:11 ElectronLibre Lightning problems if I remember well.
20:11 y Krock = 42
20:11 Krock y, k.
20:14 rubenwardy Tabs for indentation, spaces for alignment.
20:14 rubenwardy :P
20:14 y then you got a mess
20:14 rubenwardy Nope
20:14 y align to what tab space
20:16 y have to study
20:16 y bye
20:16 ElectronLibre Bye y.
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22:14 zBuilder hello
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22:23 xanal0verlordx zBuilder: hello.
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22:43 exio4 <2 minute compile times
22:43 exio4 cool :D
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23:04 kilbith https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=161647#p161647
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23:30 hisforever VanessaE are you Here?
23:31 VanessaE hi
23:31 hisforever here is my link to mt skin for hisforeverkid 11-11-14 Topic: Israel's 70 week Prophesy
23:32 VanessaE that's not a skin :)
23:32 VanessaE besides I already installed it earlier.
23:32 hisforever whoops sorry
23:32 VanessaE it'll become available after the morning restart.
23:32 hisforever that 1 is all green to me no face or any color let me check it again
23:32 VanessaE don't wory
23:33 VanessaE don't worry*
23:33 VanessaE that's a server glitch
23:33 VanessaE it'll fix itself after the restart
23:33 hisforever ok ty
23:33 VanessaE happens any time a new skin is added or if I replace a texture in a mod
23:33 hisforever I'll log in too ty understand that
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23:46 hisforever this is funney now my skin is pink lol
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23:52 _Esteban I was checking a comic and found something that looked like the Dungeon Master back in MT 3.1
23:52 _Esteban Before someone asks, the series is called parasite
23:53 _Esteban https://cdn.mediacru.sh/JLRRC78cc9JB.jpg
23:53 exio4 F# looks nice
23:56 _Esteban Forgot to say, the comic series is kinda gory... so I don't recommend it to everyone :P

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