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00:00 OldCoder CC allows you to specify attribution
00:00 OldCoder You can state the group as the authors
00:00 OldCoder Accordingly each person I *think* must be acknowledged
00:00 OldCoder Do you follow?
00:01 Fritigern_AFK I think i do.
00:02 Fritigern_AFK Of course, i could call yet another new license into existence. Let's call it the Friti License, adding to the already daunting forest of licenses :-)))
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00:37 blaise lmao
00:39 Fritigern_AFK ?
00:40 blaise 19:02 < Fritigern_AFK> Of course, i could call yet another new license into existence. Let's call it the Friti License, adding to the already daunting forest of licenses :-)))
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00:53 kaeza the Friticense
00:54 VanessaE the Fritincense :P
00:54 VanessaE the best-smelling license in existence :)
00:54 kaeza :P
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00:59 Fritigern_AFK Heehee!!!! So my remark about making my own license made me scribble a bit, just for the heck of it, and if i were REALLY going to have a license of my own, i think it would be something like this: http://pastebin.com/CZms6Du9
01:01 Fritigern_AFK Sometimes i just get an idea, and have to play with it....
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01:13 ShadowNinja Fritigern_AFK: Probably a bad idea.  You're likely to make a lot of mistakes and leave loopholes, unless you're a lawyer.
01:13 Fritigern_AFK "just for the heck of it, and if i were REALLY going to have a license of my own..."
01:14 Fritigern_AFK BTW, what happened to the public server list? I can't seem to get a list in-game
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01:16 Fritigern_AFK Oh, i see.... http://servers.minetest.net/
01:16 kaeza it's empty anyway...
01:17 Fritigern_AFK Yes, but ity shouldn't be
01:17 ShadowNinja sfan5: ^
01:17 ShadowNinja I can't load it at all.
01:17 kaeza it took a whole 10 secs for me
01:18 kaeza /list seems to be accessible, but empty
01:18 Fritigern_AFK Have a look at http://servers.minetest.net/
01:22 Fritigern_AFK Before?
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01:31 ShadowNinja "Chromium could not load the webpage because servers.minetest.net took too long to respond."
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01:47 Fritigern_AFK So, i am having issues logging into my private server. Could this be somehow related to the empty server list?
01:48 ShadowNinja Fritigern_AFK: No.  Issues logging in as a player on a remote server?
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02:00 Fritigern_AFK What can cause admins to be able to log in succesfully, but regular users to get stuck in limbo when they try to log in?
02:05 Fritigern_AFK I think the server froze. I have placed a couple of torches, but they stay flat
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02:07 Fritigern_AFK I can still move around though. A little. A blinking sign has stopped blinking, but i can not leave the area.
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02:12 zat Fritigern_AFK: thats a freeeeezeeeee
02:12 zat 23:09:03: ERROR[CurlFetchThread]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (Timeout was reached) (response code 0)
02:12 Fritigern_AFK Gee, really?
02:12 zat yes
02:13 Fritigern_AFK So helpful
02:13 VanessaE sounds like the master server list is getting DDoS'ed again then.
02:13 VanessaE why am I not surprised.,
02:15 zat VanessaE: DoS or DDoS?
02:16 VanessaE zat: DDoS.
02:16 Miner_48er alternative master servers decided by best ping?
02:17 zat VanessaE: how to know its DDoS and... why?
02:18 VanessaE zat: because no one uses just one machine anymore, not for many years now.  why?  because they're stupid little children who think they can get off on interrupting peoples' lives.
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02:18 VanessaE Miner_48er: a good idea.
02:19 zat VanessaE: a DDoS isnt a trivial thing that any script kiddy can do
02:19 VanessaE zat: sure it is.
02:20 zat like you say, nope.avi
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02:20 zat who runs the servers list server anyway?
02:21 VanessaE it's all a matter of how many machines you can get under your control and for how long
02:21 zat something that script kiddies dont do
02:22 zat actual DDoS are rare and done for a good reason
02:22 VanessaE ...unless they have access to some C&C server
02:22 Fritigern So why would my private server on my local machine lock up when a regualr user logs in, but be fine when an admin logs in?
02:22 zat Fritigern: tried disabling mods?
02:22 zat VanessaE: C&C?
02:23 VanessaE zat: Command&Control
02:23 VanessaE e.g. a "master" computer used to take control of a number of others in a botnet
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02:24 zat thats not what a SK does
02:24 VanessaE I know that.  but SK is also a term I use for the same children who are involved with that shit
02:25 VanessaE in other words, babies who have nothing productive to do with their time.
02:25 zat no no, what I mean is...
02:26 LazyJ Hehehe... nice to know I'm not the only one gets grumpy about misbehaving kids. ;)
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02:26 zat SKs cant, because their level is far from being able to form a botnet
02:26 zat can you think of any good reason there could possibly exist to DDoS something like minetests list of servers?
02:26 VanessaE zat: because they can?  and because it's happened before.
02:27 zat How you know that it was DDoS and not DoS?
02:27 VanessaE see /msg
02:27 zat I saw
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02:29 OldCoder Dragonop, welcome to Minetest
02:29 OldCoder Congratulations on making it
02:29 OldCoder You may have met VanessaE before
02:29 OldCoder And some of the others
02:29 Dragonop Being realistic, i now minetest since 2011
02:29 OldCoder This is where to come to offer suggestions or learn to work on the core
02:30 OldCoder Fine, put your knowledge to use
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02:30 Dragonop :)
02:30 OldCoder VanessaE, Zeno` this is Dragonop from Argentina who is ready for the big leagues here :-)
02:30 Zeno` woohoo!
02:30 Zeno` hi Dragonop
02:30 OldCoder ShadowNinja, you have seen him be useful ^
02:30 Dragonop hi
02:30 OldCoder Dragonop, I am in a meeting
02:30 Zeno` Soccer?
02:30 OldCoder We will talk further by PM
02:30 Dragonop ok
02:30 OldCoder But this is where to talk Minetest
02:31 OldCoder Oh, one more thing in PM
02:31 Dragonop lets go
02:31 Zeno` I had a girlfriend from Argentina once
02:32 zat My girlfriend is from Chile
02:34 LazyJ The silver lining, I suppose, is if someone is even bothering with a DDos/DoS of Minetest's server list, then it means Minetest is popular enough to be noticed.
02:35 cities thats a
02:35 cities very thin silver lining
02:36 zat LazyJ: maybe angry minecraft fanbois?
02:36 LazyJ Nah, probably Russia and China :0)
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02:36 zat well, I have read about minecraft fanbois complaining and saying that minetest "needs to be taken down" [sic]
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02:37 LazyJ Those are the type of children VanessaE was talking about.
02:37 VanessaE LazyJ: naw, it's just the same dickhead who hangs around here who likes to try to show off his big bad botnet.
02:37 Fritigern So, the freeze is caused by some module in ServerExtended v0.5. Now to track down the offending module
02:38 zat Fritigern: serverextended was ultra buggy for me
02:38 zat I think its the ranks module, check it out
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02:39 VanessaE Fritigern: which machine is that error from?  It's Microsoft BASIC, but I don't recognize the platform. :P
02:40 Fritigern CBM64, duh :-)
02:40 Zeno` Amiga used MS-Basic
02:40 VanessaE FAIL
02:40 VanessaE it would be ?NEXT WITHOUT FOR  ERROR
02:40 VanessaE (two spaces in front of "  ERROR")
02:40 Zeno` and, yeah, c-64 BASIC used a BASIC written by MS I believe
02:40 VanessaE turn in your geek card, Fritigern  :)
02:40 Zeno` although it wasn't "MS-Basic"
02:40 Fritigern So does the Apple][, the VIC-20, C64, C128, and more
02:40 zat Fritigern: serverextended was ultra buggy for me
02:40 zat I think its the ranks module, check it out
02:41 Fritigern Okay zat, i thought it was that. Had to be certain
02:41 * VanessaE <-- recovering C64 geek :)
02:41 LazyJ minetest.conf's "max_objects_per_block" setting,... I'm assuming "block" means 16x16x16 nodes, so what constitutes a "statically stored object"?
02:41 VanessaE LazyJ: an entity
02:42 zat https://github.com/Traxie21​/ServerExtended--Unstable-/ seems abandoned
02:42 VanessaE like the text from a sign
02:42 LazyJ Sign text, mobs,... what else?
02:43 VanessaE dropped items maybe?
02:43 LazyJ Hmm...
02:43 VanessaE why, are you getting entity duplication?
02:43 VanessaE tons of items being shown in the log but nothing is there in the world?
02:43 LazyJ No. not that.
02:44 LazyJ I'm curious how much extra effort the computer has to go through in very developed areas.
02:44 VanessaE ah
02:45 LazyJ A city block full of animated water, torches, lights, protection settings, locked storage, waving plants and leaves.
02:45 VanessaE not all that much for the *server*, but the client will work pretty hard when it loads up a bunch of entities
02:45 LazyJ As compared to a vanilla world's undeveloped areas.
02:46 VanessaE the biggest CPU for clients would be particles (jin_xi is working on that), nodeboxes (RBA's got that) and entities (not sure who's working on those)
02:47 VanessaE on the server it's mostly water/lava flow, and whenever you have a slow mod of course
02:47 zat there should be a way to make efficient finite liquids
02:48 Zeno` and light
02:48 LazyJ I've seen error messages in chat about too many objects detected and MT was deleting them. Usually when flying into an ungenerated area.
02:48 zat why not burrowing clients processing?
02:48 VanessaE zat: it's been tried before and ...it was a failure :-/
02:48 zat VanessaE: burrowing?
02:48 VanessaE zat: finite water, in general
02:48 Zeno` actually, last time I profiled light was the biggest CPU user for a generic world with no buildings
02:48 zat VanessaE: what can be so hard considering its so slow?
02:48 VanessaE Zeno`: oh yes, light too.
02:49 VanessaE zat: you'll have to talk to proller about it, and then try to piece together what *really* happened :P
02:49 Zeno` oh wait.. you're talking about client. Light is on the server :/
02:49 LazyJ iirc, all the graphic stuff in MT is shouldered by the cpu. MT doesn't utilize the graphics card's abilities.
02:49 zat proller: <3
02:50 zat LazyJ: could that be fault of irrlicht?
02:50 LazyJ As for flowing water and lava, players like fountains and waterfalls.
02:50 VanessaE LazyJ: that's not entirely correct, but too much of it is, yes
02:50 zat Minetest really needs Cryengine
02:50 zat or unreal
02:50 zat :D!!!!!!
02:50 VanessaE zat: no, there's just too much stuff done in realtime that should be cached or set up ahead of time to be handled by the GPU
02:50 Zeno` zat, no, the engine needs to use more GPU, simple as that :)
02:50 Zeno` and what VanessaE said
02:51 Zeno` The way Minetest is currently written using Cryengine would make no difference
02:51 zat I think that finite water can be perfectly done with CPU serverside
02:51 Zeno` It'd look exactly the same as well :D
02:51 zat maybe it hasnt been implemented the best way possible?
02:52 Zeno` RBA is working on it!
02:52 Zeno` He works magic stuffs!
02:52 zat I imagine traversing an array inmemory
02:52 Zeno` Where is he, by the way?
02:53 zat maybe finite water incurred in way too much IO?
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02:53 LazyJ The problem I had with finite water was it broke water elevators (and scenic waterfalls). Long, flowing water lends to the "fantasy" nature of Minetest.
02:53 Zeno` Traversing an array in memory is not such a big deal if the data is able contiguous
02:54 Zeno` But it's not, and as things currently are can not
02:55 Zeno` Mainly because NodeId, param1, param2 are stored in the same object, so there are huge gaps between each node id (meaning cache misses)
02:55 Zeno` and the inability to use fast functions like memcpy() etc
02:56 zat Zeno`: use an auxiliar array
02:57 Zeno` zat, I know... but it's not easy to change
02:57 zat one only for calculations and fast traversal
02:57 zat about the waterfalls... use water sources there
02:58 zat I guess
03:00 Zeno` possibly yeah
03:00 Zeno` Goooood Morning Vietnam!
03:00 LazyJ If a water source can be suspended in mid-air and only flow down and not to the side.
03:01 Zeno` err... wrong channel
03:01 LazyJ R.I.P. Robin Williams.
03:01 Zeno` :(
03:02 zat LazyJ: water sources should disappear when...
03:02 zat idk lol
03:03 LazyJ There will always be celebrities, few will define history.
03:04 zat I go to sleep, byeall
03:09 * Zeno` waits patiently for the RBA
03:10 LazyJ Mechanics, Dynamics, Aesthetics... an interesting video on game design theory:  http://youtu.be/uepAJ-rqJKA
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03:23 fling Ok so how to get changed node coords? :P
03:24 * fling is writing another mapper
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04:09 Fritigern Sooooo.... I was messing with the SeverExtended tools, and the problem was not with ranks, not with gui, nor with several others. So i decided to completely remove SeverExtended. Perhaps i will eventually find similar tools, but ones that won;t cause issues
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07:29 Krock Gary!    meow?
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07:31 hintss lol
07:33 Krock vacuum cleaner + CPU = less noisy CPU
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07:41 meldrian_neti ahoi
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07:54 Krock o/ meldrian_neti
07:55 Zeno` I need to use a vacuum cleaner
07:55 Zeno` has been over a year so it's overdue
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08:05 sfan5_ wtf
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08:42 CWz hello zeno
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08:44 Krock http://i.imgur.com/4tQts8A.png
08:48 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Fire Prevention Day! :-D
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09:23 Fritigern For some reason my wheat seeds . refuses to be sown. I tilled and irrigated the land, but the wheat decided that i can't plant it. I checked and they are just the weat seeds from farming
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09:34 ninnghazad can mobs/entities actually wield tools yet?
09:38 Zeno` I used to be a mob
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09:52 dirkk0 just for info: https://github.com/maxogden/blockp​lot/issues/2#issuecomment-58486693 did someone play around with Blockplot, yet?  http://blockplot.com/
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11:22 Krock !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX4RrruOVZs
11:22 Krock MinetestBot!
11:22 Krock sfan5, she is gone :(
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11:24 sfan5 Krock: 144p, u serious?
11:24 Krock U I U A A
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11:25 Krock MinetestBot!
11:25 MinetestBot Krock!
11:26 sfan5 asie: didn't you say you didn't want to tweet anything?
11:26 asie sfan5: i realized i can't live without attention
11:27 asie and a way to make my brain forget i'm an uncreative and frankly quite lazy person
11:27 * Jordach purrs at asie
11:27 * sfan5 meows at asie
11:27 asie bleh
11:28 asie I do feel a bit better than usual, though
11:28 sfan5 D:
11:28 asie my package from Japan arrived!
11:28 sfan5 what's in it?
11:28 asie a figurine, 3 keychains and a clear file
11:29 asie sfan5: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/OX5WWruzCeK2.jpg pic related
11:29 sfan5 ooh
11:29 sfan5 wtf is wrong with all smartphone cameras
11:30 sfan5 Jordach's pics look like a painting
11:30 sfan5 yours looks like an oil painting
11:30 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
11:30 PenguinDad sfan5: bad jpeg compression maybe?
11:30 asie sfan5: that's because i did selective gaussian to it to hide the ridiculous amount of noise
11:30 asie original pic: https://i.imgur.com/HxcS5M4.jpg
11:30 sfan5 do you even ffmpeg -i pic.jpg -vf hqdn3d pic_out.jpg
11:30 asie no
11:30 asie no i don't
11:31 Jordach asie, can comfirm oil painting https://cdn.mediacru.sh/DV0vnYcN5NA8.jpg
11:31 asie anyway
11:32 asie i plan to take a better quality pic when i come home today
11:33 * Jordach wonders what else asie has in that "package" ;3
11:33 asie Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/8huoUeD.jpg
11:33 asie and a clear file -> http://i.imgur.com/cEEFYs1.jpg
11:33 sfan5 >not for sale
11:33 sfan5 uh
11:33 sfan5 what
11:34 Krock such anime
11:34 asie sfan5: it was a limited edition one
11:34 asie bundled with toranoana orders for volume 9 of the manga
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11:34 sfan5 makes sense then
11:34 asie it somehow wound up on suruga-ya
11:35 Jordach brb - fixing home routing
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11:39 Krock http://i.imgur.com/DoKJUnh.gif
11:41 Krock http://i.imgur.com/1NUrmnX.gif
11:42 Zeno` why have you got a photo of me in the bottom image?
11:43 Krock Zeno`, turn around
11:43 * Zeno` turns around and sees nothing
11:43 * sfan5 meows at Krock
11:43 Zeno` I still dunno why you posted my photo
11:44 * Krock meows at sfan5
11:44 * Zeno` likes cats
11:44 Zeno` for dinner
11:44 Zeno` may I have a kitty please?
11:45 Krock take Gary. the one from spngebob
11:45 Krock makes meow sounds, too
11:46 * Krock gives MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/cyoHNNA.jpg
11:46 Zeno` I dunno... I want a fresh kitty :(
11:46 sfan5 !cat
11:46 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/qNBpvF3.jpg
11:46 Zeno` ohh! /me takes that one
11:46 sfan5 ^ Zeno`
11:47 Zeno` thanks sfan5!
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11:47 Krock ehm
11:47 sfan5 !kick Zeno`
11:47 Zeno` was kicked by MinetestBot: Zeno`
11:47 PenguinDad Base64 lol
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11:48 Krock he should use pastebin for more than 4 lines
11:48 sfan5 !kick Zeno`
11:48 Zeno` was kicked by MinetestBot: Zeno`
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11:48 sfan5 !kick Zeno`
11:48 Zeno` was kicked by MinetestBot: Zeno`
11:48 Krock ..
11:48 sfan5 !ban *@unaffiliated/z3n0
11:49 PenguinDad What did Zeno` smoke?
11:49 sfan5 cats
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11:49 sfan5 probably cats
11:50 PenguinDad eee​w burning cats
11:50 sfan5 !unban *@unaffiliated/z3n0
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11:50 Zeno` I am VERY sorry
11:50 Zeno` I did mean to paste: http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumb​lr_l5ma6iVWvx1qba7fwo1_500.jpg
11:50 Zeno` thanks sfan5
11:51 sfan5 np
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11:51 Zeno` now... my sandwich
11:52 * Zeno` puts mustard on it
11:52 Zeno` yummo!
11:52 * sfan5 meows at nyuszika7h
11:52 nyuszika7h hi sfan5
11:52 sfan5 hi nyuszika7h
11:53 * Krock add 1h to nyuszika7h
11:54 nyuszika7h what?
11:54 sfan5 7h as in 7 hours
11:54 sfan5 (what Krock is referring to)
11:54 Krock ^
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12:05 Zeno` My sandwich probably
12:06 Krock sandwho
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12:33 Nekrodes I love when logs are like this :þ -> "ERROR[ServerThread]: ANIMALS: BUG !!! didn't find a way out of water, drowning animal"
12:35 PenguinDad interesting bug :D
12:43 Megaf man, Im such a great cook!
12:43 Megaf lol Nekrodes
12:44 Megaf be happy that didnt actually crashed your server
12:46 Megaf Zeno`: That's epic!
12:46 Megaf bye all
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12:51 Zeno` what's epic?
12:52 Zeno` let me paste the base-64 data again
12:52 Zeno` just kidding! hah!
12:57 cities anyone use znc that could help me with downloading an external module? (wrong chan I know)
12:58 Zeno` sfan5, come sit on my lap please?
12:58 Zeno` http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumb​lr_l5ma6iVWvx1qba7fwo1_500.jpg
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13:04 rubenwardy Hi all!
13:05 cities hi'
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13:19 * sfan5 curls up to Zeno`'s lap
13:24 * Zeno` places bread onto sfan5
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13:29 rickmcfarley lol
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13:34 ElectronLibre Good <class part_of_the_day> everyone. :)
13:35 SilvaMerner Hi Zeno
13:39 Krock ElectronLibre, ERROR: failed to convert 'class' into string
13:39 ElectronLibre Hmm, which comiler did you use? ^^
13:40 ElectronLibre *compiler
13:40 Krock any.
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13:40 Krock started testing server on port 61562 :)
13:40 ElectronLibre <class part_of_the_fay>.name is probably better. ^^
13:41 Krock ERROR: unknown class 'part_of_the_fay'
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13:41 ElectronLibre >_>
13:42 Krock :P
13:42 * ElectronLibre has wasted one compilation.
13:42 ElectronLibre <class part_of_the_day>.name
13:42 PenguinDad "Good " + $timeofday.get("LOCAL") + " ElectronLibre!" # ;)
13:42 * Krock discovered unified_inventory's new feature of showing item name of hand in the hud
13:43 Krock ERROR: variable '$timeofday' can not be used as class
13:43 Krock :3
13:43 PenguinDad Krock: that's valid ruby code
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13:43 Krock ah
13:43 * ElectronLibre launch sudo apt-get remove Krock-compiler .
13:43 Krock ERROR: Unknown comand 'sudo'
13:44 ElectronLibre $su
13:44 Krock INFO: Blocked requests from invalid connection
13:44 ElectronLibre Then, apt-get remove Krock-compiler xD
13:44 SilvaMerner Hi guys
13:44 Krock hi,
13:44 ElectronLibre What distro am I using right now Krock? >_>
13:45 ElectronLibre Hello SilvaMerner.
13:45 Krock Linux 3.16-2-686-pae
13:45 SilvaMerner Some reason I cant get to inchra
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13:46 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: Debian?
13:46 SilvaMerner Ok im gonna go to get some mjlk for my mum brb
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13:47 Zeno` hi SilvaMerner
13:48 ElectronLibre PenguinDad, so ==> $su ==> $apt-get install sudo && adduser ElectronLibre sudo && exit ==> $sudo apt-get remove Krock-compiler ==> xD
13:48 * SilvaMerner is afk
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13:48 rickmcfarley Krock: thanks I need to updated my unified_inventory
13:48 SilvaMerner Owing to my mum wanting some milk btw is SilverCrab online
13:48 PenguinDad Krock: also u r l8 m8 :D
13:52 * Krock gives SilvaMerner /away
13:56 * ElectronLibre gives SilvaMerner /back for when he will want to come back.
13:58 * Krock gives ElectronLibre /away because /back doesn't exist
13:58 ElectronLibre So it could be defined only for my client.
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14:05 Silva|ingame Back
14:07 SilvaMerner Back
14:11 CWz SilvaMerner: the chat with all of the servers is that the minetest channel on inchra
14:11 SilvaMerner CWz I tried to get on inchra
14:13 SilvaMerner Plus OldCoder told me to keep this channel handy
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14:18 Fritigern !Pacata
14:18 Fritigern Nope, doesn;t work :-)
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14:22 SilvaMerner Erthome
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14:26 Fritigern !server pacata
14:26 MinetestBot Fritigern: Pacata | 67.170.30.149 | Clients: 0/20, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / pacata | Ping: 174ms
14:26 Fritigern WHEE!!!
14:26 Krock hmm?
14:26 Krock a new server
14:27 Zeno` go Fritigern!
14:27 Fritigern Fine... I'll go *cries*
14:27 Fritigern :-))))))
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14:28 Fritigern I jut hope that my ping and lag stays within reasonabl limits.
14:28 Fritigern Time will tell though
14:29 Krock *joins*
14:29 Fritigern Enjoy! :)
14:29 Krock I hope it's not heavy modded
14:30 Fritigern 159 mods is not too heavy, right? :-)
14:30 * Krock looks at http://servers.minetest.net
14:30 PenguinDad Fritigern: That depends on the weight of a single mod :D
14:31 Zeno` I didn't mean "go" in that sense lol
14:32 Fritigern Zeno`: I know :-)
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14:32 Fritigern Anyway, i wil be AFK for a while
14:32 Fritigern (6 month old babies are quite demanding)
14:33 Zeno` have fun?
14:33 SilvaMerner Finally I get back in cos I timed out
14:33 SilvaMerner :)
14:33 Krock k. looks like the server is at ~realtest weight
14:34 SilvaMerner Is SilverCrab online yet
14:34 OldCoder SilvaMerner, ? Is it down?
14:35 SilvaMerner I cant get on some reason
14:35 Amaz OldCoder, all your servers seems down.
14:35 Amaz They're not showing up on servers.minetest.net
14:35 SilvaMerner 4,11
14:35 PenguinDad !c cos(240)
14:35 MinetestBot NameError: name 'cos' is not defined
14:35 PenguinDad !c math.cos(240)
14:35 MinetestBot 0.32578130553514806
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14:36 Krock Fritigern, ok. media stopped loading somehow - can't join
14:36 PenguinDad ^ cos of an average timeout :D
14:36 Krock I thpought 250 would be average
14:37 Krock !c math.sqrt(250)
14:37 MinetestBot 15.811388300841896
14:37 Krock !c math.sqrt(250 ** 2)
14:37 MinetestBot 250.0
14:37 Krock looks correct.
14:38 Fritigern "Server: Krock supplied wrong password", which is inbteresting, seeing as it's your first time connecting
14:39 Fritigern Interesting as in "impossible"
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14:40 Zeno` !c math.sqrt(1)
14:40 MinetestBot 1.0
14:40 Zeno` !c math.sqrt(1) + 1 - 1
14:40 MinetestBot 1.0
14:40 Zeno` yeah cool
14:40 Krock very. efficient
14:40 Krock !c math.sqrt(math.pow(1, 99))
14:40 MinetestBot 1.0
14:41 Zeno` !c math.sqrt(-1)
14:41 MinetestBot ValueError: math domain error
14:41 Krock Fritigern, once I entered the wrong one
14:41 Zeno` !c math.sqrt(-1) * math.sqrt(-1)
14:41 MinetestBot ValueError: math domain error
14:41 Krock tried again and media stopped loading after ~2 minutes
14:41 Krock Zeno`, nice try
14:42 Fritigern Krock: I'll clear your password so you can try again
14:42 Zeno` !c math.sqrt(1/0)
14:42 MinetestBot ZeroDivisionError: division by zero
14:42 Zeno` silly bot
14:42 ninnghazad !rainbow suicide!
14:42 MinetestBot 4su7ic8id3e!
14:42 Krock !rev suicide!
14:42 MinetestBot !edicius
14:42 Fritigern Krock: Done, you can try again
14:43 Krock wrong pass?!
14:43 Krock ah you cleared it
14:44 Krock *waits for media*
14:44 Fritigern It keeps saying that you are yusing the wrong pass.
14:45 Zeno` !c math.pow(1024, 1000000000000000000000000000000)
14:45 MinetestBot OverflowError: math range error
14:45 Zeno` silly bot
14:45 OldCoder Amaz, others, I have server restart scripts. But it appears there was a network problem 5 hours ago. My worlds are up; I'll text my host.
14:45 OldCoder Essentially, my worlds will restart 90% of the time if there is a Minetest crash. But not if there is a hardware crash.
14:45 OldCoder Anyway, everything is up for now
14:46 OldCoder
14:46 Krock Fritigern, media stopped again loading... the bar isn't moving forwards
14:46 Krock setting debug level to 4 now
14:47 OldCoder ANNOUNCE: I have more of RedCrab as of last night. A merge will be attempted next week.
14:47 OldCoder The world may go to about 10GB
14:47 sfan5 hooray
14:47 sfan5 \o/
14:48 Zeno` $ du -h
14:48 Zeno` 9.9G    .
14:48 Zeno` mine may hit 10GB as well :/ rofl
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14:49 OldCoder 10GB is OK if you have the hardware. Or you can prune nether or mines.
14:50 Zeno` well... it had better be ok!
14:53 CWz is redcrab server self hosted or hosted on a a service
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14:58 Krock possibly selfhosted
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15:04 realtinymonster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkmeoYKYctw <-- may be considered nsfw
15:04 realtinymonster !title
15:04 MinetestBot realtinymonster: D*ck Maintenance - Banned Commercial! - YouTube
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15:05 realtinymonster hi pro
15:05 realtinymonster fail
15:05 realtinymonster hi proller
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15:07 proller hi
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15:21 ninnghazad is there a callback for when entities get unloaded cause they are too far away?
15:22 PenguinDad realtinymonster: Why would you post videos which may be considered not safe for woona? :'(
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15:23 realtinymonster PenguinDad: haha
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15:25 realtinymonster PenguinDad: you may like this one better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TywmpMQYojs
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15:31 Amaz !title
15:31 MinetestBot Amaz: The Assumption Song - Oney Cartoons - YouTube
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15:36 realtinymonster heh
15:39 PenguinDad Meh I prefer this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTXOSGzE6gk
15:42 Krock !title
15:42 MinetestBot Krock: Archie - Manifestation - YouTube
15:42 Krock !c math.sqrt(math.pow(99, 5))
15:42 MinetestBot 97518.71871081983
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15:53 realtinymonster https://plus.google.com/10387627​8794381402383/posts/h1ehEUKnK1K
15:54 ninnghazad PilzAdam: do you have any kind of unloading-prevention implemented in your carts mod?
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16:03 realtinymonster !tell
16:03 MinetestBot realtinymonster: Need a nickname...
16:03 realtinymonster !tell cities I missed you!
16:03 MinetestBot realtinymonster: yeah, yeah
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16:16 Krock I wonder if a Intel HD graphics 2000 chip would be enough for minetest
16:19 realtinymonster with updated drivers it should
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16:22 realtinymonster Minetest works on most things
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16:36 PilzAdam ninnghazad, no, IIRC
16:39 Krock realtinymonster, oke
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16:50 SaltyDog001 those running servers, how much memory do you have? I'm trying it with 1 gig but server seems to lag after a while. Thanks.
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16:55 * zat kaeza
16:55 zat ...de kaeza
16:56 realtinymonster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh3_LtaOxqQ
16:57 Krock SaltyDog001, depends how heavy modded your server is
16:57 Krock mine stays at 250 MB memory usage
16:57 Krock !title
16:57 MinetestBot Krock: PON3 - Vinylicious - YouTube
16:57 realtinymonster such bass drops
16:58 SaltyDog001 ok thanks.
16:58 zat thats like the lowest form of electronic music yet one of the most popular ones
16:59 realtinymonster yep
16:59 realtinymonster I haven't actually thought about that
16:59 zat lol flame didnt work ¬¬
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17:01 realtinymonster lol
17:01 realtinymonster I am immune to flames
17:02 realtinymonster "Hey, if you drop the bass, why don't you pick it up? Somebody might trip on it.."
17:02 zat thats called inflamable
17:02 PenguinDad Swag Level: 4/20 https://soundcloud.com/haveanar​tattack/this-day-aria-aa-remix :D
17:02 zat not-flammable
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17:03 zat bronys give me canzur
17:03 proller zat, some liquid problems was solved in freeminer
17:03 PenguinDad *bronies
17:03 proller and now processing speed 30000-50000 nodes per second
17:04 realtinymonster PenguinDad: such trap
17:04 PenguinDad many airhorn
17:04 realtinymonster yeah
17:04 Calinou_ uninflammable
17:04 realtinymonster lel
17:04 zat proller: but freeminer isnt compatible with minetest 0.4.10 clients
17:04 realtinymonster that would be flammable
17:05 zat thats like !!flammable
17:05 PenguinDad I am not uninflammable :P
17:06 realtinymonster PenguinDad: yay
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17:09 Hobodium At least some of you are merely flammable, I am reflammable
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17:10 zat I am not in group:flammable
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17:19 Brains Anybody know if there is a game play reason why supply converters in technic are "dumb" (ie, they just consume EUs regardless of demand)?
17:20 * Brains was shampooing carpets and mopping floors...  Not quite as effective as showers for letting the mind percolate, but you do what you got to...
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17:23 Hobodium To teach you an important lesson of unplugging your appliances to avoid power leeching
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17:24 proller zat, what?? current master fully compatible with mt.
17:32 realtinymonster brb
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17:37 Krock proller, are you runing the sky server?
17:37 proller yep
17:37 kaeza greetings
17:37 Krock then please update it to master, the chunks won't draw when I join
17:38 proller where you spawning ?
17:38 proller and what about "World" server
17:38 proller sky have some broken chunks
17:39 Krock nvm I can see it now - last time was someone else online and it was bugged somehow
17:40 Krock at spawn (0, 0, 0) btw
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17:43 Krock proller, I can connect to them now and the first chunk is drawn..
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17:43 Krock my PC might be a reason for the timing out after that chunk
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17:48 cities sky server?
17:48 cities whats that
17:52 proller fm uses unique technic in block sending ;)
17:52 proller it wirks with mt, but mt can lag first secnds
17:53 * sfan5 meows at proller
17:57 PenguinDad And is the wirkung good? :P
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18:07 proller PenguinDad, with fm client it allows huge view ranges and very fast world loading
18:17 blaise engrish much?
18:18 blaise Sokomine: sup?
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18:22 Krock proller, does it send the blocks over luftpost?
18:22 proller pidgin post
18:23 Krock !g pidgin post
18:23 Krock MinetestBot!
18:23 Krock sfan5, she is gone again :(
18:26 Megaf Does anyone here have a raspberry pi?
18:26 Megaf I made a build of minetest for RPi
18:26 blaise I've had my raspberry pi backordered for almost 3 years now
18:26 blaise I don't believe they're ever going to send it
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18:27 Megaf three years!?
18:27 Megaf wow
18:28 Hobodium I have an raspi. Also, there shouldn't be backorders that long, something has gone wrong unless you live in a country that doesn't believe in electronics
18:28 blaise yeah, it's disgusting
18:28 kilbith Megaf: complilation finished ?
18:28 Megaf kilbith: yep
18:29 kilbith what happened ?
18:29 Megaf kilbith: Now I need to find a way to upload it from my rpi
18:29 Hobodium blaise: who did you order it from?
18:29 kilbith it works ?
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18:29 Megaf kilbith: I can't test, I need people to test it for me
18:29 kilbith I can
18:29 Megaf I will upload it to my github
18:30 kilbith ok, lemme know when it's done
18:30 SaltyDog001 Can anyone recommend a vps provider? thanks
18:30 blaise Hobodium: I can't even remember, I would have to find my order confermation email
18:30 blaise it was $99.00
18:30 blaise I should have ordered a minipc 2
18:30 blaise or something
18:31 Hobodium Geeze, sounds like you got scammed or something. Or did you buy a bundle of some sort?
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18:31 Megaf SaltyDog001: linode.com
18:32 blaise nope, no bundle.. just the raspberry pi, the case, and a power supply
18:32 Megaf SaltyDog001: there is even a community around it
18:32 blaise oh well
18:33 Megaf kilbith: Im uploading it now
18:33 kilbith ok
18:33 Megaf blaise: 99 usd? that was really expensive
18:33 Megaf thats more exepnsive than my quad core arm
18:33 Megaf my ODroid U3 where I run my server
18:33 kilbith +30$ of you want to connect the raspi on a old VGA screen...
18:33 kilbith if*
18:34 blaise I already decided to go with something else
18:34 Megaf blaise: and by the way, bees mod cause lots of lag
18:34 Megaf Writing objects:  66% (2/3), 2.86 MiB | 43 KiB/s
18:34 blaise Megaf: :(
18:34 blaise I really like the bees
18:34 proller new  firefly rk3288 cost ~130$ and it 50x faster than pi
18:34 Megaf So do I
18:34 Megaf ask him to fix it
18:35 proller kilbith, no, hdmi-vga = 5-10$
18:35 Megaf $ du -hs MinetestPi-Raspbian/minetest.tar.gz
18:35 Megaf 13M     MinetestPi-Raspbian/minetest.tar.gz
18:35 Megaf proller: I managed to compile minetest client on my Pi
18:36 kilbith proller: usually a vga-hdmi converter cost >$20
18:36 Megaf it took 109 minutes
18:36 SaltyDog001 Megaf: thanks
18:36 kilbith Megaf: upload done ?
18:36 Megaf SaltyDog001: they have the fastest support I have ever seen
18:37 Megaf kilbith: Writing objects:  66% (2/3), 8.73 MiB | 42 KiB/s
18:37 SaltyDog001 Megaf: ok I will check it out. Thanks again.
18:37 * kilbith cross his fingers...
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18:38 Megaf SaltyDog001: no problem, I really like them. They have a fantastic IRC channel with a really useful community
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18:39 Megaf SaltyDog001: irc.oftc.net #Linode
18:39 SaltyDog001 Megaf: thanks, looking at plans now.
18:39 cities oftc sounds familiar
18:39 cities I feel like I been there
18:39 Megaf kilbith: https://github.com/Megaf/MinetestPi-Raspbian
18:39 blaise I kinda want one of these.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pr​oduct.aspx?Item=N82E16813157475
18:40 kilbith Megaf: will try now
18:40 blaise I dunno though
18:40 Megaf Hobodium: if you want to help testing my build of minetest for raspberies, https://github.com/Megaf/MinetestPi-Raspbian
18:40 Megaf kilbith: just download, extract and bin/minetest
18:40 petrusd987 Megaf, I have Arch Linux on my RPi, is that okay?
18:40 Hobodium I'll save it, although I won't be able to test it until I get home from work just so you know
18:40 Megaf I already configured it to use opengles
18:41 Megaf petrusd987: I have no idea, try please
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18:41 kilbith downloading...
18:41 Megaf I have no idea if it would even work on Raspbian
18:41 Hobodium Well, raspbian is what my spare one has so I will check that outfor you tonight hopefully
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18:42 Megaf Hobodium: it may work on other distros
18:42 Megaf so, does it works?
18:45 kilbith Megaf: what's the package name for libEGL.so ?
18:45 kilbith i don't have that
18:45 Megaf hm
18:45 kilbith libegl !
18:45 kilbith i found
18:46 Megaf if someone manage to run my build, tehn later on I will try to compile a static version, so it can run on all distros
18:47 Megaf kilbith: any luck?
18:47 petrusd987_ Would you need anyone to make distro-specific packages?
18:47 kilbith Megaf: missed some libs, I'm installing them
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18:48 Megaf kilbith: ok
18:48 kilbith oooucch
18:49 Megaf petrusd987: that would be great, but first it needs to work
18:49 kilbith I enabled OpenGL ES in the client, heavily crashed, i have to kill the program
18:49 petrusd987_ Megaf: It loaded... sorta
18:49 petrusd987_ I think mine crashed too
18:49 kilbith OpenGL ES 1*
18:49 Megaf kilbith: it was already enabled
18:50 Megaf try version 2
18:50 petrusd987_ How do you switch versions?
18:50 kilbith Megaf: nope, OpenGL by default
18:51 kilbith Megaf: here when I re-started the client with OpenGL ES 1 enabled : http://paste.debian.net/125419/
18:51 kilbith I can't access to the client now, OpenGL ES make heavy shit
18:52 kilbith can I start the client in command with OpenGL ES 2 ?
18:53 Megaf hm, opengles should be enabled
18:54 kilbith I found a setting in minetest.conf to switch on opengl es 2
18:55 kilbith hmm no, not works
18:55 kilbith still opengles 1
19:01 kilbith Megaf: finally I found the setting to switch on OpenGL ES 2, heavy crash again : http://paste.debian.net/125420/
19:01 Megaf petrusd987: did it at least open?
19:02 petrusd987_ Megaf: I tried switching to OpenGL ES 2 in the config file and now it's giving me errors about a missing vertex shader file "../../media/Shaders/COGLES2Solid.vsh"
19:02 Megaf hm
19:02 Megaf it might be because you are in Arch or you have some lib missing
19:03 petrusd987_ What media directory is it referring to though?
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19:06 kahrl petrusd987_: the one in the ogl-es branch of irrlicht
19:06 petrusd987_ kahrl: So I have the wrong version of irrlicht?
19:06 kahrl maybe
19:07 kahrl or installed it in the wrong place
19:07 Megaf I will compile a static version of minetest
19:07 petrusd987_ OK, I'll look into that
19:08 Megaf kahrl: I wonder if cmake ../../ -DVERSION_EXTRA=MinetestPi -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1  -DENABLE_GLES=1 -DIRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR=../../../irrlicht/include -DIRRLICHT_LIBRARY=../../../ir​rlicht/lib/Linux/libIrrlicht.a  -DENABLE_SOUND=0 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=0 -DENABLE_CURL=0 -DENABLE_REDIS=0 -DCMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS="-static -lGLESv1_CM -lEGL" -DBUILD_SERVER=0 will build a static version, and if that means that it will include libegl and irrlichs libs that it needs to run
19:09 kahrl Megaf: what's the point of static linking?
19:09 kahrl IIRC some libraries don't work if linked statically
19:12 zat kaeza: ping
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19:24 CWz question why is the fast key called the use key?
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19:38 Hobodium What is a fast key?
19:38 blaise it makes you run, if you have the fast privlege
19:39 ElectronLibre Good bye everyone :).
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19:42 OldCoder What is a recommended minimum animals configuration? Delete what?
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19:47 Sokomine OldCoder: which animals? sapiers? remove the vombies. especially their burning animation
19:47 blaise XD
19:50 zat kaeza: ping
19:50 zat kaeza: plz, I dont want to timeout again...
19:51 Megaf kahrl: I want static linking so it can run on any Raspi distro
19:51 blaise yes, static libs are important
19:53 kaeza zat, pong
19:54 zat kaeza: pong
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19:55 zat kaeza: yesterday what did you want me to elaborate on?
19:56 kaeza <zat> cooking recipes should accept a table of itemstrings just like shapeless
19:57 sol_invictus is it possible to get currently shown formspec string?
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19:58 kaeza sol_invictus, nope, but depending on what you're trying to do, there may be other ways
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19:59 OldCoder Sokomine, anything else?
19:59 sol_invictus kaeza: I'm trying to open some pages of unified_inventory with show_formspec method
20:00 OldCoder Sokomine, also, RedCrab is up. I'm proceeding with SilverCrab regardless
20:00 OldCoder RedCrab is not reliable
20:00 OldCoder When a world can simply disappear, it needs to move
20:00 OldCoder Erthome is creating an updated mods list now
20:00 sol_invictus kaeza: it kinda works, but some buttons don't work and I can't figure out why
20:01 kaeza sol_invictus, code?
20:02 kahrl Megaf, but wouldn't the egl libraries have to be hardware or distro specific anyway so static linking won't help?
20:02 OldCoder Anybody suggest other animals to delete?
20:02 OldCoder And is there a non-Sapier mod which is stable?
20:02 zat kaeza: I want to be able to cook coal and an iron lingot together and get steel
20:02 OldCoder What do people use?
20:02 Megaf kahrl: well, it is a specific hardware
20:02 kaeza zat, look at technic alloy furnace code
20:02 sol_invictus kaeza: http://pastebin.com/YJr5z8Rt
20:03 zat actually, all crafts should be any size
20:03 zat not just 3x3x3 max
20:03 Krock o/ a pastebin user
20:03 kahrl Megaf: so the raspi never changes?
20:03 Megaf its always the same CPU and GPU
20:03 sol_invictus o Krock, I have something for you
20:04 Krock sol_invictus, why once minetest and once core?
20:04 Krock don't you want to use minetest.env: too?
20:04 Krock :P
20:04 Megaf kahrl: the biggest change was they doubled the amount of RAM, from 256 MB do 512 MB
20:04 kahrl anyway, making a binary that works on all distros is a PITA, so people generally make one for each
20:04 sol_invictus Krock, lol didn't notice
20:04 kahrl (or just publish the source and let distributors figure out the packaging)
20:05 Krock sol_invictus, blame you. only THREE lines!
20:05 Megaf kahrl: I will be really happy if it works on Raspbian
20:05 kilbith +1
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20:05 deasanta hi
20:05 Miner_48er hi
20:05 Krock ih
20:05 sol_invictus Krock: I accidentally the whole thing https://github.com/donat-b/l​andrush/blob/master/hud.lua
20:05 Megaf ji
20:06 Krock uuh.
20:06 Krock with shared players, too
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20:06 zat kaeza: you know who can help in making such a feature built in?
20:06 sol_invictus It doesn't break the hud anymore!
20:06 deasanta does anyone know if we will get setpitch for entity soon ?
20:07 deasanta http://dev.minetest.net/LuaEntitySAO
20:07 Krock deasanta, when collision boxes are dynamic?
20:07 PenguinDad deasanta: It's very unlikely that we'll get this soon
20:07 deasanta whats the reason ? physics ?
20:08 Krock developers
20:08 Krock kaeza, aargh! http://wiki.minetest.net/index.php?title=Troublesh​ooting&amp;curid=660&amp;diff=4945&amp;oldid=4944
20:09 deasanta i was playing with making the head look up and down - can do side to side now but cant set pitch - does not need physics - can be nonphysic
20:09 kaeza sol_invictus, https://github.com/minetest-technic/unifie​d_inventory/blob/master/register.lua#L345
20:09 Krock pitch would be interesting for carts
20:10 deasanta yes :)
20:10 kaeza ^ also roll (for curves)
20:10 Krock well, use setyaw for smooth curves
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20:11 kaeza I mean rotate along the Z axis (like the cart "leaning" outward) during curves
20:11 Krock oh.
20:12 Krock well that would be better done in clientside
20:12 Krock *on
20:12 deasanta what can we do with LuaEntityCAO ?
20:12 kaeza zat, it was discussed before, and rejected
20:13 zat kaeza: what exactly?
20:13 Krock deasanta, try setting it to nil and look what happens
20:14 kaeza zat, adding more "crafting types", or modifying the current ones
20:15 zat kaeza: what I suggest is to not limit the size of recipes
20:16 zat so, if I need a bigger one, I make a crafting table for that
20:16 zat or a big furnace
20:16 sol_invictus kaeza: can you elaborate please?
20:16 deasanta Krock: tnx
20:16 Krock np. lol
20:17 Krock zat, big furnace is an interesting idea. two fuel slots and one input slot -> double speed
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20:18 zat Krock: big furnaces for making alloys or just mix stuff
20:18 Krock oh
20:18 zat what I suggest would not break anything or add new recipes
20:19 zat I meant, crafting types
20:19 zat lol
20:19 blaise how can I get a /spawn command?
20:19 Hobodium Is there a mod that has multi-block machines that has code I can look at?
20:19 zat Hobodium: technic I think
20:21 Hobodium What is the multi-block thing in question I would look for in technic?
20:21 deasanta big furnace = forge ?
20:21 zat Hobodium: its a big stuff to store water
20:21 zat or was it in the pipowerks mod?
20:21 kaeza sol_invictus, use the function I linked if you want to switch pages
20:22 zat pipeworks*
20:22 Krock http://www.centennialhomes.com/blog/wp​-content/uploads/2014/04/10268594_1020​2790239749558_549554138791956131_n.jpg
20:22 zat deasanta: there could be different furnaces for different stuffs
20:22 Hobodium Thanks zat, I'll look into that
20:22 zat lol
20:22 sol_invictus kaeza: I'm not switching them, I opening the formspec
20:23 kaeza sol_invictus, switch == open/show
20:23 sol_invictus kaeza: I tried this function, it does nothing
20:24 sol_invictus well, it switches the page, but if inventory is closed it's not opened
20:25 sol_invictus or I need a way to prevent formspec closing when hitting enter in field
20:25 sol_invictus what I wanted is to avoid pressing that button
20:26 Brains Hobodium: Would the technic nuclear reactor count?  Single block machine but it apparently depends on layers of blocks around it.  (I haven't built one so no direct experience.)
20:27 blaise Sokomine: is my server unresponsive?
20:28 Krock !server blaise
20:28 Hobodium Brains: I guess I should have been more specific: I mean something that is a single machine but is created out of multiple blocks and once the proper configuration exists it pops into being. As opposed to a single block which functions but requires other blocks to be used effectively.
20:28 Krock !MinetestBot
20:28 blaise !server MidnightSystems
20:28 Krock :( minetestbot gone
20:28 blaise lol
20:28 Krock We'll miss you.
20:28 kaeza sol_invictus, oh I see now. the buttons *do work*, but clicking them only changes the player's inventory
20:29 Krock Rest in Pies
20:29 Brains Hobodium: Nothing comes to mind but now I'm interested in whatever you find...
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20:29 Hobodium Brains: I'm actually kind of hoping nobody has tried it yet (in minetest). I'd love to implement something unique.
20:30 Krock !server MidnightSystems
20:30 MinetestBot Krock: No results
20:30 Krock ^ blaise
20:30 blaise indeed
20:30 Krock ty sfan5
20:30 sol_invictus kaeza: ah, that's why it's not working
20:30 Brains Hobodium: Go ahead then, I'll wait here.
20:30 * sfan5 meows at Krock
20:30 Krock blaise, alt + f4?
20:31 zat meow at me plz
20:31 sfan5 no
20:31 * Krock oe zat
20:31 Krock s/oe/ow/
20:31 Hobodium I see your game, Brains. Fine, I can play the role of brawn!
20:31 blaise Krock: I don't use windows
20:31 zat damn
20:31 blaise Krock: the server is also on a dedicated linux server
20:31 Krock zat, /meow wasn't a valid command, so I had to use sometihng other
20:32 zat lol
20:32 sfan5 blaise: alt + f4 works with some WNs
20:32 sfan5 WMs*
20:32 Krock blaise, but Ctrl + C should work in a console window
20:32 blaise ctrl-c, ctrl-x, ctrl-b
20:33 blaise shift-pause
20:33 blaise what are we talking about again?
20:33 sol_invictus rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
20:33 kaeza sol_invictus, try poking around in #minetest-technic
20:34 sol_invictus kaeza: aha, thanks, gonna try later
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20:35 sfan5 !tell BlockMen <paramat> sfan5, (and other MTgame devs) please can boats mod be fixed by merging my pull https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/328 it's been tested and fine tuned for hours, works like a dream. best to test in my 'canyon' river mod as that has extreme water level changes
20:35 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when BlockMen is around
20:35 blaise is rollback_check supposed to bring a minetest server to a screaching hault?
20:35 sfan5 no
20:35 Krock blaise, how big is the rollback file?
20:36 blaise I dunno where it would be, using leveldb
20:36 sfan5 rollback.sqlite
20:36 sfan5 in the world folder
20:36 Krock rollback is still sqlite3
20:44 Krock Needs more ports to other operating systems: https://github.com/SmallJoker/MT_account_cleanup
20:48 PenguinDad ugh C#
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20:49 Krock PenguinDad, you don't need to click it
20:50 sfan5 Krock: you don't need to post it here
20:50 Krock yes but I did :P
20:52 Amaz XD
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21:04 blaise anyone know a good spawn mod ?
21:05 blaise Krock: -rw-r--r-- 1 minetest games 1452343296 Oct  9 16:04 rollback.sqlite
21:05 blaise wtf, he quitted
21:06 blaise is that a 1.4GB rollback?
21:06 blaise gawd dayum~
21:06 blaise it's bigger than my map!
21:06 blaise wtf
21:07 ShadowNinja -rw-r--r--  1 minetest minetest 3.2G Oct  9 05:03 rollback.sqlite
21:07 ShadowNinja Map's 3.5GiB.
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21:13 Miner_48er linuxgaming's map 9 GB
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21:22 blaise does it typicly take a long time for /rollback_check ?
21:23 PenguinDad blaise: with a rollback.sqlite of that size it's not unusual
21:23 ShadowNinja blaise: Yes, depends on you parameters.
21:23 ShadowNinja your*
21:24 ShadowNinja Eg, a 1x1x1 search area with a long search period and a high limit will take very long.
21:24 sfan5 blaise: if you just want to find out who touched what last use this: https://github.com/sfan5/minetest-nm
21:25 blaise it was a /rollback_check 1 999999999
21:25 blaise it turned up no results
21:25 blaise trying to find out who placed this massive mansion hanging off the edge of a cliff near the spawn point
21:26 blaise Sokomine chewed me out for building a cobble stone structure for the spawn point
21:26 sfan5 (my mod does exactly what you need
21:26 sfan5 )
21:26 blaise ty
21:27 blaise sfan5: should I mv minetest-nm nm
21:27 blaise ?
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21:50 Lenore_nevermore hello
21:54 jin_xi hi
21:54 Hobodium Howdy
21:54 Lenore_nevermore hi jin_xi
21:54 Lenore_nevermore Hi Hobodium
21:54 Lenore_nevermore hm
21:55 Lenore_nevermore what happened to the server list?
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21:57 Lenore_nevermore anyone know?
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22:09 ShadowNinja Lenore_nevermore: I don't know yet.
22:10 ShadowNinja Lenore_nevermore: Um, it seems to be working now..
22:11 Lenore_nevermore Cool
22:11 Lenore_nevermore Why was it down before?
22:11 Lenore_nevermore iirc minetest.net was down too
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22:11 Lenore_nevermore might my because im on 3g
22:13 hisforever What is this area is not protected , I was laying a block with a design on it when this poped up?
22:14 ShadowNinja Lenore_nevermore: I'm not sure why it was down before.
22:14 hisforever I'm in single player mode
22:14 Lenore_nevermore hm
22:14 Lenore_nevermore alright then
22:14 Lenore_nevermore it's up now
22:14 ShadowNinja hisforever: What?
22:15 hisforever A box came up sayint this area is not protected?
22:15 hisforever saying
22:16 ShadowNinja hisforever: What mods do you have installed?
22:16 hisforever I'll do a scerrn shot brb
22:17 Lenore_nevermore My nickname is rather long
22:17 LenoreNVM that'll do
22:19 hisforever http://imgur.com/rsWIJFB this is what I'm getting?
22:20 LenoreNVM I don't know, is it?
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22:20 blaise lol
22:20 hisforever never saw such an error
22:20 hisforever is VanessaE around?
22:21 LenoreNVM I dunno, is she?
22:21 LenoreNVM tell me when it gets annoying
22:22 hisforever her name is up on voard lol
22:22 blaise it was annoying before you joined the channel
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22:23 hisforever I'll brb later God bless
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22:27 LenoreNVM god bless you sfan5
22:27 LenoreNVM sorry that was wierd
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22:31 LenoreNVM hi jojoa1997
22:31 Hobodium Sorry that you have to feel sorry
22:31 jojoa1997 :O
22:31 jojoa1997 My name!
22:32 jojoa1997 hi LenoreNVM
22:32 LenoreNVM godbless you jojoa1997
22:32 LenoreNVM why 1997?
22:32 jojoa1997 cause
22:32 LenoreNVM why not 1337?
22:32 LenoreNVM jojoa1337
22:32 jojoa1997 I hate that term for elite
22:32 LenoreNVM 1337 looks like a ferrati
22:32 jojoa1997 !lynch LenoreNVM
22:32 LenoreNVM if you squint
22:33 LenoreNVM !ping
22:33 jojoa1997 oh this isnt ##werewolf
22:33 LenoreNVM No bots, eh
22:33 Hobodium jojoa, what if you just really liked the Hundred Years War?
22:33 LenoreNVM hi emeralds
22:33 emeralds im shiny
22:33 LenoreNVM no
22:33 LenoreNVM you're green
22:34 LenoreNVM You're Be3Al2(SiO3)6
22:38 LenoreNVM hi jojoa1997
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22:39 LenoreNVM well that was nasty of you
22:43 Hobodium That is just how he rolls
22:44 LenoreNVM hi
22:44 LenoreNVM ye
22:44 LenoreNVM badass
22:45 blaise joined #minetest
22:48 iqualfragile hi kids
22:49 LenoreNVM hi kids
22:49 LenoreNVM I think you missed an s
22:49 Taoki joined #minetest
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22:53 LenoreNVM hackers
22:53 LenoreNVM hackers everywhere
22:53 LenoreNVM un drowning in boooooredom
22:55 blaise joined #minetest
22:56 LenoreNVM hi [I typed skid but this auto replace put this useful statement there instead. Tell me I was naughty]
22:56 LenoreNVM That is dang useful
22:57 TriBlade9 huh?
22:58 LenoreNVM teh auto replace
22:58 TriBlade9 skid?
22:58 LenoreNVM try typing teh in hexchat
22:58 TriBlade9 teh
22:58 TriBlade9 Pfft
22:58 LenoreNVM lol
22:58 TriBlade9 I use a custom irc client :P
22:58 LenoreNVM not hex then -.-
22:58 TriBlade9 :/
22:58 TriBlade9 Imma get back to working on my game
22:58 LenoreNVM teh
22:58 LenoreNVM okaytrh
22:59 LenoreNVM|PISS OOPS CAPS LOCK BROKE
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23:01 LenoreNVM|RestRo Thou shalt go now
23:01 LenoreNVM|RestRo Thou shalt go no
23:01 LenoreNVM|RestRo sorry
23:01 LenoreNVM|RestRo \o
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23:14 SaltyDog001 Megaf: were you the one that told me about Linode?
23:15 SaltyDog001 does it take a while for a new server to appear in the list?
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